Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG G6 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
This camera is amazing. Sometimes the LG camera gets the white point a little off. For example, if you're in a restaurant with a lot of red lamps, it may read as a warmer setting. This is something that can be adjusted manually (and easily fixed in an image editor)
I feel like some of the details are "smoothed" out, but I don't know if that has to do with the camera as much as the app. It's not necessarily bad. If you take micro shots, it's more noticeable, this smoothing effect. It may be a setting in the camera... if you want crisp shots, it's certainly feasible. For example, I was taking up close shots of the fabric of the clothes I am wearing. However, sometimes it is hard to get the camera app to focus on the right thing. It's worse the closer you are to the subject. However it can definitely focus up-close with the non-wide angle camera, though I think a bit less than my Samsung S5 used to be able to do. If you need textures for graphic design work, it's definitely feasible though.
Camera does do some heavy post processing. You can tell when you zoom in.
First Picture is using Stock Camera Auto Mode
2nd Picture is using OpenCamera Camera2 API Auto Mode
3rd Picture is using RAW OpenCamera Camera2 API Auto Mode
I think the wide angle is garbage for landscape shots. Click on photo and zoom in a bit you'll install see what I'm talking about. I love wide angle for closer you shots though. 2nd photo of fire is really just to show why u love the manual settings.
Does anyone use any other camera application to unlock the full potential of this camera? coming from the Galaxy s6 edge, I really liked their camera application and was easy to access the more advanced settings (iso, exposure, ect...) this camera allows that but it makes it very difficult and is overly complicated when those settings are finally available.
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Does anyone use any other camera application to unlock the full potential of this camera? coming from the Galaxy s6 edge, I really liked their camera application and was easy to access the more advanced settings (iso, exposure, ect...) this camera allows that but it makes it very difficult and is overly complicated when those settings are finally available.
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Using a camera app other than LG's own stock camera app will most likely result in poorer quality images. LG specifically optimizes their app to take advantage of the phone's hardware to the fullest potential.
Thus why if you ever flash a non-stock-based ROM, you will find that your camera is just not as good as before.
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Does anyone use any other camera application to unlock the full potential of this camera? coming from the Galaxy s6 edge, I really liked their camera application and was easy to access the more advanced settings (iso, exposure, ect...) this camera allows that but it makes it very difficult and is overly complicated when those settings are finally available.
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The manual option gets easier when you figure out how to use it.. You'll be able to get some great pics with it.
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Someone should do some guide with best settings.
There's some guides on YouTube for the V20.. It's the exact same concept
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Thanks, i will check it, its my first LG after years with Samsung.
this one is pretty in-depth..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ82z1E92NU&t=2s
Yeah... other then the stock App. for Camera results in lower quality photos like when i use the Z-Camera App. which is great for Editing but other then that use stock
I really like the camera, feels like an upgrade from G5, but too bad there's no 13mp 16-9 mode
Why is nobody here talking about the front camera? The rear camera has a horrible oversharpening effect and the front camera is plain trash (normal & wide both). What I further do not understand is why the 13MP mode doesn't have a 16:9 or 18:9 ratio. Clicking pictures in 4:3 on this already narrower display is a mediocre experience. With the G6 camera being ported to the G4 already, I do not find a single advantage having the G6 over G4 for still photography (both manual & auto). Why are people being irrational and praising a sub-par camera setup on the G6?
I just got my Indian G6 (64GB & Quad-DAC). I am coming from an LG G4 (H818N) and I haven't been impressed by the cameras. The display on the G6 is better, the design & ergonomics are better, the build quality is exceptional too. But if you have used a G4 or an S7e or an iPhone 7, you will not like the cameras on this one.
For anyone reading this who is out to buy a new device, if you prefer a good smartphone camera you will be let down. Go for a Pixel or S7e or S8/S8+ for better camera performance.
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Why is nobody here talking about the front camera? The rear camera has a horrible oversharpening effect and the front camera is plain trash (normal & wide both). What I further do not understand is why the 13MP mode doesn't have a 16:9 or 18:9 ratio. Clicking pictures in 4:3 on this already narrower display is a mediocre experience. With the G6 camera being ported to the G4 already, I do not find a single advantage having the G6 over G4 for still photography (both manual & auto). Why are people being irrational and praising a sub-par camera setup on the G6?
I just got my Indian G6 (64GB & Quad-DAC). I am coming from an LG G4 (H818N) and I haven't been impressed by the cameras. The display on the G6 is better, the design & ergonomics are better, the build quality is exceptional too. But if you have used a G4 or an S7e or an iPhone 7, you will not like the cameras on this one.
For anyone reading this who is out to buy a new device, if you prefer a good smartphone camera you will be let down. Go for a Pixel or S7e or S8/S8+ for better camera performance.
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I have a Xiaomi Mi5 too. What I did notice for sure is that the Mi5's front camera is way better that the one on the G6. Also, the back one seems better on low light conditions. The one on the G6 seems to "lag" in stand-by mode. On the G6 : the main camera is having exposure and saturation issues, the wide angle one has oversharpening issues. I don't know what everyone are praising about... I sure hope they will fix some issues with the next updates.
I kinda feel sorry I didn't chose the S7 Edge.
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I have a Xiaomi Mi5 too. What I did notice for sure is that the Mi5's front camera is way better that the one on the G6. Also, the back one seems better on low light conditions. The one on the G6 seems to "lag" in stand-by mode. On the G6 : the main camera is having exposure and saturation issues, the wide angle one has oversharpening issues. I don't know what everyone are praising about... I sure hope they will fix some issues with the next updates.
I kinda feel sorry I didn't chose the S7 Edge.
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You are still talking about a recently launched device. The G6 front camera is worse than my good old G2 and S4. I have a Oneplus 3 in my house whose front camera is way better than this S#! T on G6. How I wish we had return policies here in India. Very disappointed. I am done with LG atleast for this life time! ?
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Lukijs said:
I really like the camera, feels like an upgrade from G5, but too bad there's no 13mp 16-9 mode
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Yeah, the full resolution isn't cropped like the 16:9 one.. You can open it in an app and do the cropping yourself.
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Hmm. I'm getting a little confused. I was considering buying the Huawei p10, because I want to use my mobile more, for taking pictures. Then the LG G6 is on a discount, making the G6 almost as cheap as a Huawei p10. And some reviewers says that the G6 camera is better than the P10 also in low light.
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Hmm. I'm getting a little confused. I was considering buying the Huawei p10, because I want to use my mobile more, for taking pictures. Then the LG G6 is on a discount, making the G6 almost as cheap as a Huawei p10. And some reviewers says that the G6 camera is better than the P10 also in low light.
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If you do not care about the front camera, the G6 is probably the best phone for you. But if you do care about the selfies and also want exceptional quality stills, I'd suggest going with the Pixel or Pixel XL.
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I would like to know how to get the best low light pictures using manual settings.
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Hi all ,
I bought OPX 4 days ago. I checked camera is worst than ever I used in phones even yuphoria an lowest budget phone has 8mp camera but its 10 times better than OPX 13 mp camera.
Is it a os issue or hardware issue?
Does all u guys having such issue plz guide me.
Try camera FV-5 app. I use it with my OPO and it takes great pictures.
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A new camera app isn't going to change the results because the problem is partially hardware-related and partially firmware related:
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The OnePlus X's camera may have the same megapixel count as its more expensive brethren, but the similarities end there. Yes, it's got a 13-megapixel sensor, but it's a smaller sensor than the OnePlus 2's, and so lets in less light. It's also placed behind an f/2.2 lens, which is a third-stop slower than the lens on the 2. The result of these concessions is a much poorer experience.
In good lighting conditions, the X can capture a decent amount of detail, but it's difficult to predict whether you'll get a good photo. There's just no consistency here; in a typical five-minute shooting period, I saw underexposed and overexposed photos, vibrant colors, subdued colors and totally inaccurate colors. The X is quick to focus, though, and shutter lag is minimal.
In low light, things get worse. I took the phone along to an industry event featuring live music, and happily snapped away. During the show the images seemed fine, but I came home to find they were universally bad. There's an over-aggressive anti-noise algorithm that sucks all the detail out of photos, and the daylight exposure and color issues carry over as well.
I'm not sure that all of the OnePlus X's problems are due to the sensor; it's more likely the software. That's not to say that OnePlus can fix everything -- this will never be a great camera -- but white balance and exposure settings seem like something OnePlus could improve through updates. And it really needs updates.
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Software updates won't change the fact that it's a small-ish sensor behind mediocre glass. A so-so camera is all this phone has.
CafeKampuchia said:
Software updates won't change the fact that it's a small-ish sensor behind mediocre glass. A so-so camera is all this phone has.
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Agree - updates won't radically change the quality, but they can improve it.
Also, if camera is that important to people, you'll have to spend at least double than what you are spending for the X.
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Agree - updates won't radically change the quality, but they can improve it.
Also, if camera is that important to people, you'll have to spend at least double than what you are spending for the X.
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I don't agree. Xiaomi mi4c got great camera and is just a little more expensive.
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yes the whole Xiaomi series including the Mi4, Mi4i and Mi4c have better camera then Opx..
But then if you are buying a oneplus you are surely not doing it for the camera.
I also have a mi4 that has a way better camera. But the MIUI launcher sucks. Also the custom rom scene for MIUI is active but childish.
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I don't agree. Xiaomi mi4c got great camera and is just a little more expensive.
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Sure, but it doesn't have an sd card slot.. Let's face it, there is no phone that is perfect for that price, there will always be something that people will not like.
Hi to all,
This phone look so good. I have OP5 and i want better phone with better camera. I have some questions:
1. Slow motion - is the same 120fps at 720p or it is 240fps at 1080p?
2. Time Lapse - can it record at 4K? At which speed? ( x6, x10, x36 etc...)
3. Is there a portrait mode?
4. Point zoom - can it be use in time laps?
I see many videos but i really cant find slow motion and time laps.
And if you can chose between wide angle and telephoto x2 what will you chose?
P. S. Did you think the LG V30 have good zoom that doesn't lost so much details when you zoom x2 or x8?
It's 720p @120fps
Time lapse won't be at 4k for any Android
No portrait mode as no telephoto lense.
I will go with wide angle any day as I am into taking pics that can gather larger data ( field of view) and not much into taking pics of people ( telephoto is basically and better used for this)
Thx a lot for answer. Too bad that V30 (multimedia phone) didn't have 240fps.
I have a new question, did V30 have same hardware front face camera like LG G6? Because G6 have very bad front face camera.
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Thx a lot for answer. Too bad that V30 (multimedia phone) didn't have 240fps.
I have a new question, did V30 have same hardware front face camera like LG G6? Because G6 have very bad front face camera.
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Hi I don't have the phone but trying to get as much information about it as possible, as far as I understand the front camera is exactly the same module as the G6, it's basic, and selfie lovers as well as bloggers are supposed to be using the rear camera instead. For front camera performance the HTC U11 as well as the Nokia 8 phones are recommended.
isko01 said:
Thx a lot for answer. Too bad that V30 (multimedia phone) didn't have 240fps.
I have a new question, did V30 have same hardware front face camera like LG G6? Because G6 have very bad front face camera.
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I don't know if it is the "exact" same camera, but every review I've seen says it inferior to most if not all the other flagship phones (S8, note 8, U11, iPhone and so on).
It a bit of a let down, but I don't really use the front camera, so not a big deal to me.
I don't know it is the exact same camera, but every review I've seen says it inferior to most if not all the other flagship phones (S8, note 8, U11, iPhone and so on).
It a bit of a let down, but I don't really use the front camera, so not a big deal to me.[/QUOTE]
Yes i see that LG V30 have better back camera much more clear and bettwr then Note8.
Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
g6
I had S7. After one month of baby sitting it it was FULL of scratches on the screen. Never ever saw anything like it before. I know that it was not my fault since i used S2, S5 and OnePlus 3 for years under the same conditions without a single scratch. After that horror experience I switched to G6. Not the slightest scratch in half a year. Some people claim they don't have problems with S7 scratches. Perhaps older batches were indeed Gorilla Glass 4 but the newest ones ... I recommend avoiding by all means. So go for G6.
G6, one of the best phones I've owned.
G6 for :
Design, screen, music and ui
S7 for :
Camera (better but dont have a wide angle), more compact, led notification
I preferred to spend a little more in a g6 because it is more original, we see few people with (I've never met someone with) and because the wide angle sensor is a really nice feature
in any case it's two phones that are worth, they will give me a pleasant user experience, you see according to your budget and the one you like most
Marvomat said:
Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
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If you need a good camera go for S7, but only for the auto mode, if you're skilled go for V30 which is better in everything, but if you have a low budget then go for the G6, LGs in manual are above competitors even with bad camera sensor
Killua96 said:
If you need a good camera go for S7, but only for the auto mode, if you're skilled go for V30 which is better in everything, but if you have a low budget then go for the G6, LGs in manual are above competitors even with bad camera sensor
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I don't think it's the sensor but more how their software handles auto modes.
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I don't think it's the sensor but more how their software handles auto modes.
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No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
Killua96 said:
No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
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Wow I did not know zganks
I miss my GS7. I like the camera, the audio including the built in global equalizer and sound settings. And the themes from the Samsung theme app.
Killua96 said:
No, the sensor on the G6 is way worse than the one found on S7 and also worse then older G series device, check it out if you don't believe me xD
G6 makes, in fact, good photos in auto thanks to the LG software, and in manual thanks to the wide optimization choices.
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But G6 have great lenses, that generate good pictures from an average sensor.
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But G6 have great lenses, that generate good pictures from an average sensor.
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Yep, that's also true, but a good sensor would be better
G6 for Manual S7 for Auto
Marvomat said:
Hello,
which of those two phones would you prefer? Is the G6 camera with the 2.09mm lense still better than the S7?
Because i need a phone with a good camera.
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1. If you used to take photos in Auto Mode then it is S7.
2. S7 also takes better photos in Low Light.
3. But S7 doesn't have a good battery life.
4. Plus, it has Amoled screen which is Good.
In Case of G6,
1. Daylight camera shots are better than S7 but in low light it is not good.
2. But if you can use Manual Mode then G6 wins by miles. G6 (and V30)'s manual mode is the Best in class.
3. G6 has slightly better battery life.
4. G6 has HDR10 but complaint screen. If you watch a HDR content then you can find the differences in between HDR and Non HDR content.
5. G6's UI looks bad but smoother than S7's touchwiz. But you may use a Pixel launcher or Nova launcher to avoid that.
Last, You can install Pixel 2 modded camera apk easily on G6 where S7 might cause some issue. In this case, check with Xda forum in detail.
(Note: Both are IP68 certified phone)
I've used both and this is my over all experience.
I wanted to upgrade from the G6 to the Galaxy S9+ but found out that i lost the Verizon Edge plan when I switched from the GS7 to the G6. So i have to pay another $392. That makes me so mad. I waited till March to trade my phone in and now i can't. So it was cheaper for me to buy a refurbished GS7 off of ebay. Funny thing is they're older then the G6 but worth the same amount of money. I like the big screen of the G6 but the camera software of the GS7. Both cameras take muddy pictures. And i can record concerts good with the G7 as i used to have one. But the two concerts i recorded with the G6 the audio is awful sounding. the phone can't handle the bass and it causes the vocals to fade in and out like the limiter is out of sync. I notice with the GS7 i got now that the signal strength is 1-2 bars and when talking on the phone the HD voice sounded kind of muddy and hard to hear because of the weak signal. With the GS7 i don't remember what it the signal strength was but it was loud and clear when i was on the phone. So how does the signal strength and call quality compare to you guys?
Hello,
i have the oppertunity to buy an LG G6 for 360€ and i want a phone with a good camera. Is the G6 still its money worth? Or should i buy another phone, like a S7 or something?
G6 is still the best choice. I also just got it 3 weeks ago for 380€.
The cameras on the G6 are average, at best. I wouldn't recommend the S7 instead though, overall the G6 would be better.
Average? lol
my new g6 will arrive monday, if all goes well. i narrowed my choices to the g6, the s8, the mi mix 2 and the oneplus 5t. i chose the g6 because it's the cheapest, the smallest (i don't care for the curved display of the s8 a bit). for me the only thing against it is that it has the 2016 snapdragon, but i figured it will still be ok with my usage. otherwise the g6 seems on par (and in some respects better) than the other choices.
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Average? lol
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Yeah, that's right, G6 uses a IMX258 sensor which is REALLY awful for a flagship device.
If you're good and you plan using the Manual mode then go for G6, with Manual (thanks to the good lg software for camera) it takes beautiful photos, but if you plan to use the Auto Mode more go for something else.
Camera is trash.
Other features is decent.
Design is good (optional).
Software is stabile.
And why is it in your opinion trash?
Camera is decent with very natural colors. If you want more eye catchy processed pictures, then you have Google HDR+ camera port.
the camera is average. i would give it a 6. maybe 7 if you play with with manual mode. but front facing camera is totally horrible. a 3 at best.
The camera is excellent. Though that's only if you're using the GCam port. The LG app photo quality is just....bad.
My gf have s7 and she love my g6 camera so idk what you all talkb about s7 camera sucks
My thoughts are that most people can not handle a camera correctly lol
Cant take photos lul
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My thoughts are that most people can not handle a camera correctly lol
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G6 has a sensor of low budget phone, here is the list with other phones that use it: https://www.kimovil.com/en/list-smartphones-by-lens-model/sony-imx258
I'll repeat myself, if you're able to use manual mode at it's best then G6 can take beautiful photos if compared to any other flagship (beside in low light conditions and for the Front Camera), but in auto it sucks, and when i say "sucks" i compare it to other flagship devices, it does not take horrible photos like a 100 euros phone, but they're not as good as the photos taken with other flagship or in manual.
Don't believe it? I don't care, i just wanted to give you an answer based on my experience on almost 12 months with the G6, and after 10 months with G5, which, in Auto Mode, is still better.
And have you tried the Google Camera HDR+ port to take photos? The LG App isnt really good. And im not that guy who uses the automatic mode on a camera, the Auto Mode is always a compromise.
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And have you tried the Google Camera HDR+ port to take photos? The LG App isnt really good. And im not that guy who uses the automatic mode on a camera.
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Yes, and G5 is still better imho, obviously i'm always talking about auto mode, in manual it's a completely different story since the camera app on G6 is better than the one found on G5.
Take in count that the other flagships has also modded version of stock camera/porting, or other camera apps that improve considerably the performance of it.
As i said before the problem of G6 is that you start from a way worse sensor than competitors, that's it, you can do a lot trough software, but the hardware is still limited.
Then can you tell me, why the HTC U Ultra has a better chip than the G6 but takes worse photos?
Many cameras are looking supersaturated and thats not a sign for a good camera. Bud sadly many people like this unrealistic look.
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Then can you tell me, why the HTC U Ultra has a better chip than the G6 but takes worse photos?
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Probably because HTC's software is worse than the one found on LGs, better hardware doesn't necessary means better performance, power is nothing without control.
The most debatable thing is the Camera on G6. Just get the Gcam port and you'll never regret purchasing this device (Except the slow updates ). Its cheaper than Op5t and offers amazing screen and build quality over it. The Hi-Fi dac is fun to. And it's Ip68 water and dust resistant so it will handle Water dip easily . But if you prefer Latest hardware and high specs Op5t is the option. Although Lg G6 can handle all task easily too.
When my wife got her Samsung Galaxy 10e I noticed how bad my pictures actually looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what not but everything still seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is there a way to up the quality or does the 10e just have a better camera?
Well yes, realistically the S10e does have a better camera, especially if you're using the V30's stock camera app.
would the 10e app be able to go on the v30?
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would the 10e app be able to go on the v30?
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You can't use the 10e app on the v30, I was talking about the GCam port. Still even then, I think 10e should be better. Maybe not by much, but it's simply just a superior sensor.
Got it, thank you very much ^_^
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Well yes, realistically the S10e does have a better camera, especially if you're using the V30's stock camera app.
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You can't use the 10e app on the v30, I was talking about the GCam port. Still even then, I think 10e should be better. Maybe not by much, but it's simply just a superior sensor.
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The stock camera app is way better then G-Cam port.
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akira022 said:
When my wife got her Samsung Galaxy 10e I noticed how bad my pictures actually looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what not but everything still seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is there a way to up the quality or does the 10e just have a better camera?
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Have you tried putting on AI? These are old photo just trying out the AI. It's backed up to Google photos at reduced quality.
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The stock camera app is way better then G-Cam port.
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Most definitely not. It has more features, it has a manual mode and the video is unarguably better, but the gcam kills it with pic quality.
There hasn't been a single scenario in my entire time using this phone where the stock app was better.
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Most definitely not. It has more features, it has a manual mode and the video is unarguably better, but the gcam kills it with pic quality.
There hasn't been a single scenario in my entire time using this phone where the stock app was better.
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Hahahaha awesome joke. Thanks!
If it was sooooo good, custom ROM's users would not be begging for the stock LG camera app to get ported.
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Hahahaha awesome joke. Thanks!
If it was sooooo good, custom ROM's users would not be begging for the stock LG camera app to get ported.
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Like I said, more features (manual mode) and better video recording. Gcam doesn't support 4k video for the V30.
But photo quality better in the stock app? Yeah, in your dreams...
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Like I said, more features (manual mode) and better video recording. Gcam doesn't support 4k video for the V30.
But photo quality better in the stock app? Yeah, in your dreams...
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We agree to disagree.
I personally want to take the best photos I can, so I use stock LG camera app. Many others who run custom ROM's feel the same and would rather have the LG camera app then G-Cam.
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Like I said, more features (manual mode) and better video recording. Gcam doesn't support 4k video for the V30.
But photo quality better in the stock app? Yeah, in your dreams...
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Gcam has historically had issues. Green tint on front camera, slow to process successive shots. Crashing. No seamless switching between lenses.
None of that applies or has ever applied to LG camera.
I've kept up with all the threads. I'm the one who told cstark to start his own camera thread since so much interest was being shown for his versions. Exciting times back then.
Yes, those problems are being/have been addressed in most recent Gcam versions -- but it's also a pain to find those versions that work.
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Stock LG camera of course has manual mode. See screenshot. For ease of use + excellent pictures, LG camera is better than any Gcam.
There are some instances (low light) you can take superior pictures to LG cam -- but I've seen tons of side by side shots on LG V30 Telegram thread where LG cam was as good as Gcam. You could not tell the difference.
IF you can have two cameras, sure -- add Gcam also if you want to experiment. But I will NEVER have Gcam as my only camera on my LG V30.
If I can only have one camera, I want LG camera. But on custom ROMs, you can only have one camera and it can NOT be LG camera.
One of the most frequent questions in the custom ROM threads is "how do I get LG camera back?"
I used to run custom ROMs all the time, but on those previous phones I could still have the stock camera also.
I understand the interest in Gcam, and the expectation porting it will come same superior camera capability Pixels have.
But I don't take a lot of low light time lapse pictures. I keep my LG camera in AI auto mode and I'm using Anxious V30 camera mods., which give me advanced features of G8/V40. So, it's not exactly "stock" LG camera.
I'm sorry guys, but it seems that my experience has been very different to yours. I couldn't find a single scenario where the stock app had a better photo.
Comparable? Yes. But in most of the cases the Gcam had more accurate colors, better dynamic range (losing less detail in shadows and highlights), and just overall more detailed photo when pixel peeping.
This is when using the new AI mode, otherwise there was no competition, since the stock cam can't even get close to the google's HDR+. And in the night? Yeah, the Gcam trumps it.
If you can prove me wrong, please do, I'm really interested. Make a comparison.
I'll also see if I can snap a few interesting photos.
Ok, here are two series of photos. You be the judge.
GCam HDR+:
Stock Auto:
Stock AI:
Now first of all, let me just say the AI mode surprised me a little bit here, while the stock auto is completely trash (in these examples), so I'll not even compare it.
In the first series of photos there's not much difference really, but you can see more details in the GCam , especially in the building in the distance, the road etc.
The trees (on the left) do look a bit better on the stock AI, but the colors are much better and more realistic looking on the GCam overall.
Now for a wide angle shot.
GCam HDR+:
Stock Auto:
Stock AI:
Now here is what I'm talking about. I cannot find a single way in which the stock cam is better than GCam here.
It's not even a comparison. If you have better eyes, please point it out for me.
akira022 said:
When my wife got her Samsung Galaxy 10e I noticed how bad my pictures actually looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what not but everything still seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is there a way to up the quality or does the 10e just have a better camera?
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Samsung and LG compete with each other for best camera -- with Pixels and iPhones also. At least best rear camera. Long been noted the 2017 V30 selfie camera was not great -- but LG did improve it with software updates (portrait mode, etc) in latter Oreo updates compare to Nougat release.
However, the Samsung Galaxy S10e is a 2019 phone. It's probably going to be somewhat better, because better technology. But LG V30 camera is still good. If your pictures look horrible in comparison, maybe something is wrong with your phone?
Also, what firmware are you using? You want at least the latest Oreo firmware for the camera upgrades vs Nougat.
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Ok, here are two series of photos. You be the judge.
GCam HDR+:
Stock Auto:
Stock AI:
Now first of all, let me just say the AI mode surprised me a little bit here, while the stock auto is completely trash (in these examples), so I'll not even compare it.
In the first series of photos there's not much difference really, but you can see more details in the GCam , especially in the building in the distance, the road etc.
The trees (on the left) do look a bit better on the stock AI, but the colors are much better and more realistic looking on the GCam overall.
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I use AI Auto mode, and I use Anxious V30 mod -- which ported features from G8/V40. So, my LG Camera is not fully stock.
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I work professionally in broadcast video. I have been a video editor and producer. My job right now involves QC of video content from a variety of TV networks -- so I have seen a lot of video effects, processing. I understand cinematographers on films sometimes want a washed out, darker look if the script deals with depressing content. ("The Accidental Tourist" used muted color scheme because the protagonist shut down his emotions due to murder of his son and subsequent divorce. Yet an amazing movie.) I understand brighter, more vibrant colors are called for in adventure movies like "Romancing the Stone". Both of these are creative decisions.
Yet, I also know big box stores sell HD TVs under fluorescent lighting in "demo" mode where all colors are oversaturated because the the display with the most color is deemed the "winner". When I get a new TV home or help a friend with a new TV, I have to calibrate the brightness, colors and chroma intensity to be "realistic" so content can be viewed how it was actually meant to be seen.
I worked for YEARS for a worldwide news organization, so when I see their news studios on TV I know exactly how they should look based upon seeing them in real life.
My point is, I'm an amateur photographer, but I have professional experience in a related field.
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You noted the first series of photos don't have much difference, but that's the only ones I have had time to look at. I'm not ignoring the 2nd set, I will look at them later.
I'm only going to discuss GCam and the AI Cam, which is what I use.
On my desktop PC monitor with "full resolution" of the pictures chosen on that website, between the two:
The parked red car looks the same in both. The parked green car looks the same in both.
TIE.
The yellow building facade looks more "vibrant" yellow in GCam -- but without seeing in person, is it really that brighter shade or is it the slightly duller shade in real life? Plus, it is an overcast day.
Do you WANT the yellow facade to "POP" out like that compared to the surrounding buildings, if it doesn't naturally? If so, then that's a creative decision.
The green foliage on the left and right and on the bushes down the street look more "realistic" green, more "natural" with LG Camera. My opinion. The Gcam looks slightly off. But again, I did not see the scene in person. POSSIBLE WIN FOR LG CAM.
Since my tendency is toward realistic, you see what I'm getting at?
Now if these were "dusk" shots and you wanted to compensate for the lower light, the brighter facade would win and the off-color of the foliage wouldn't matter so much.
I will have to look at the other set of pictures later.
While I was intensely interested in GCam (I was there at the beginning here in V30 forum when cstark make his ports), the issues really bothered me: Green tint on front camera (aka perpetual "Matrix" mode), slow to process or crashing on quick successive shots. No seamless switching between lenses. Early editions needed three different shortcuts to launch which camera you wanted!
One of the most frequent questions besides how to get LG Camera on custom ROMs was how to find a good version of GCam with the least problems. I've actually helped people with that based on other users recommendations, but I also understood it was because those people were FORCED to use Gcam.
Due to all this I decided a long time ago when I needed to take a picture, I was going with the trusted stock camera.
In the meanwhile, LG kept improving the stock camera with Oreo updates (use at least the last Oreo) and then TotallyAnxious released her Magisk mod which included LG stock camera features/improvements based on G8/V40 updated camera. She kept improving that with updates through the months.
I understand most recent Gcam versions (last couple of months) have solved the early issues, but for me I don't see any reason to switch.
@ChazzMatt Just wanted to discuss these points:
- Both the red and the green car are oversaturated on the AI cam.
- The GCam's white balance is much closer to true life (I was there lol), AI cam is way off.
- The yellow parts are oversaturated on the GCam, that's true, but the AI cam is not accurate either, it's more like something in between. Though I could have toned down the saturation in the GCam settings, I prefer it this way.
- If you open up the photos in a new window (after loading the full res) then you will actually get the full resolution. Zoom in and you start to pick up differences, eg. how the AI cam just destroys the detail in some parts of the photo, as I said in the first post.
I know you said you prefer the realistic look, but in these two series of photos, the stock cam is all over the place with the white balance and saturation is not accurate either (just check the blue street sign in the second photo and also the cars).
The greens on the trees do look more accurate on the stock cam, but that's about it, as I see it.
I'll always take better details, but in these examples the stock doesn't beat GCam with the overall accuracy either.
The GCam did have a lot of issues in the beggining but a couple of latest versions work perfectly without any issues I could find.
If not being able to swith lenses while the image is processing is an issue, then I guess there's that, lol.
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And this is all day time photography, at night the GCam is on a whole new level.
I like the way Gcam does HDR+ highlights. I do not like the black crush. ( I am still fooling with settings to address this)The pictures tend to be vivid though, (and i think, a bit more compelling) from the gcam. I do not expect photos from a phone to supplant those from a proper camera, but I would eke out the best quality I can. I took a quick photo in the front yard with stock cam, and gcam in HDR, and HDR+ respectively. You can see some nasty color banding in the LG in the sky, very unnatural.
These were taken with the G7. I have not yet picked a gcam for the v30. That is unless Mr. Chazz could be convinced to part with an Anxious module.... By the way, if video is important to you at all, I encourage you to try opencam, and the HEVC codec. Worlds of difference in clarity. In particular, the wide camera stock nearly looks out of focus in comparison to opencam.