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Hello guys, I've recently upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus to a Galaxy S III, skipping the Nexus 4 for reasons I should explain only if asked.
I've been reading a lot of posts from AOSP advocates defending Samsung's TouchWiz, which makes for a rather worrying reading.
Now, I'm quite pleased with stock TW Jellybean, it's really smooth, fast, stable and not bloated at all. However, I wanted to try some AOSP roms since developers clearly had some time to work on them, and Samsung has certainly released JB source code to overcome some driver-related issues that there might have been. My question is: is TW still the best option or are there some AOSP roms that are stable, fast and working on every aspect? I'm talking about tethering, data connection, auto-brightness, battery life, bluetooth, camera... the stuff meant to work at its best on a stock TW rom.
Thanks for your help.
Well actually for me the AOSP ROMs are smoother and have all the features I could probably need....but
Samsung didn't released the sources as they told us and because of that (and a couple of proprietary reasons with Microsoft)
We can't make a fully functional camera(slight camcorder/flash stuff that have never affected me)
Can't have exfat sdcards
Can't have native FM radio
(Reason why we are not really officially supported by Cyanogenmod in their M builds)
But that's about it...I would really recommend you to try them...unless you need a Samsung specific feature like AllShare or AllShare control if you have a SmartTV...or want the extra features in the camera (BurstShot ShareShot) that I really never used..... and a lot of those features are now in CM10.1 like HDR and that stuff.
Those are my two 2 cents of the theme
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Out of all of the devices out there that support LineageOS, the Z5 Compact looks the most appealing to me, because of the good audio quality, nice design/build, and reasonable size.
But is it foolish to purchase a Z5C with the intention of using it to run a custom ROMs?
Are people here using custom ROMs purely as a stopgap until they can get a newer phone that supports Oreo? I don't need or want the latest, greatest hardware, but ever since buying my first smartphone (a Nexus) I've become accustomed to using the latest software. Is the Z5 Compact a dead end in that regard? Or is it likely that I'll be using Android P and Q on this device in the next couple of years?
"But Strobelite, if you're worried about being able to use the latest version of Android, why don't you just get something by Motorola? Those have a healthy, active developer community. Or, you could just be a normal person, and buy a new phone."
If it runs GApps, I won't use it
Audio quality is important to me
The Motorola phones are ugly, in my opinion
Hi, since a few weeks I'm running on LineageOS 14.1 with my z5 Compact and I don't miss the stock rom at all. I didn't test all features yet (e.g. MHL), but I'm very satisfied until now. It's stable (didn't encounter any random reboot), fast and battery life is ok for me (I use Amplify and Greenify with xposed).
I only can recommend this and if you want to run without GApps, this is the way to go. I'm using Yalp store and it's even faster updating my apps than the original Play store.
Phone has FM Radio, SD card slot, fast and accurate GPS and enough power (LOS doesn't seem to run as hot as the stock rom (you can choose between performance profiles), so it's another plus for me).
Just try it and see if it works for you.
The only thing that annoyed me is the camera, the quality is just bad and sometimes it doesn't focus (or too late)
If you dont miss the camera then yes.
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But is it foolish to purchase a Z5C with the intention of using it to run a custom ROMs?
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I can understand your problem but of course it is imo.
Z5 line has never been widely supported by developers and the Compact is the one with less roms now. You can imagine what kind of future it would have.
Luckily in the past we had great guys who made stock rom root/mods/DRM restoration but the AOSP scene is completely different. As always you lose some features with non-stock roms, usually Camera quality (because you lose closed source vendor optimizations/software) and minor ones.
There will be probably 1 or 2 roms for future android versions (thanks to projects like SLim rom, PAC, Resurrection,...) but there are already few mantainers, especially for the Z5c, and some aosp roms are also unofficially maintained by one person...
Sony lost people (and developers) appeal after the Z3 line and this gets reflected in custom rom support for the newer Xperia lines. If you really want the latest OS on your phone for the next 4 years you should go for something else imo.
Z5c is still great device, refined materials and with good battery but don't expect a forum support like Samsungs, Huaweis,... Unfortunately the old days where flagship phones were < 4,5" are gone.
Maybe you already know it but GSMarena has a great phone-finder search engine which can help you refine your search for compact products.
Hi folks,
Just got my Scorpio few days ago.
I'm not new to recovery twrp custom roms and others.
I was previously on a Zuk Z2 pro with Mokee that was a great rom.
The only thing i noticed on all custom roms is that they are never as much fully functional as the stock rom.
Just a little poll to know about your feelings on all the custom roms available with that Xiaomi Scorpio.
Currently, I'm on miui 9.6.1.0 based on 8.1 .
I've tried also lineageos but i need your feedback.
So just post something like "Best os tested: XXXX" E.G
Especially on ? life i care.
Thanks guys
You can try MiuiPro if you don't mind the fact that you need to pay 1.5 euro a month to download it and the slower updates than other custom MIUIs.
MiuiPro gave me the best performance and battery life for a custom MIUI ROM. Others like xiaomi.eu , mi-globe, miui ms or hellas are good but not as good as MiuiPro seems to be...
If you would consider to really get into a stable custom ROM that is not based on the MIUI sources, the last AEX can be a great choice.
The thing about custom ROMs for scorpio is that almost all of them are based on the same sources, so, you should get almost the same experience with performance and battery in every ROM. AEX is the one that stands out because it has a lot of features that enlightens the user experience.
This is strictly my opinion and the way i see things around here.
Hope you find your perfect ROM. We have official Mokee if you want to try it, you just have to go to their official site. It's maintaned by a chinese guy. I believe it uses his own sources which, from what i can tell , because i've tested it, it's a very good competitor to other ROMs.
Also, enjoy your new phone, welcome to the community and happy flashing!
Here is the link to the official telegram group.
Have a great day!
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You can try MiuiPro if you don't mind the fact that you need to pay 1.5 euro a month to download it and the slower updates than other custom MIUIs.
MiuiPro gave me the best performance and battery life for a custom MIUI ROM. Others like xiaomi.eu , mi-globe, miui ms or hellas are good but not as good as MiuiPro seems to be...
If you would consider to really get into a stable custom ROM that is not based on the MIUI sources, the last AEX can be a great choice.
The thing about custom ROMs for scorpio is that almost all of them are based on the same sources, so, you should get almost the same experience with performance and battery in every ROM. AEX is the one that stands out because it has a lot of features that enlightens the user experience.
This is strictly my opinion and the way i see things around here.
Hope you find your perfect ROM. We have official Mokee if you want to try it, you just have to go to their official site. It's maintaned by a chinese guy. I believe it uses his own sources which, from what i can tell , because i've tested it, it's a very good competitor to other ROMs.
Also, enjoy your new phone, welcome to the community and happy flashing!
Here is the link to the official telegram group.
Have a great day!
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Heyy
Thanks for your perfect answer.
I will give a look at AEX though.
Thanks!!
I have tried almost any Custom ROM out there for the Mi Note 2: I started with the MIUI-based ones and then moved away looking for something better, without so many customizations.
- MIUI Developer has been a quick-try, but I soon abandoned it. Too much bloatware for my requirements, slow developments and an overall grade of customization that rendered impossible using some android functions. (some examples: android pay, contactless payments with 3rd party apps, biometric advanced unlock not reliable, notifications were a total mess, background apps force-closed by system despite all settings, etc.)
- xiaomi.eu has been a nice start, but it is still very similar to MIUI and without significant improvements. Development is quite constant, but most of the times BUGs are depending on the source MIUI, hence most limitations are the same. Battery life is quite incoherent: for some weeks it may be fine and then for a couple of versions it could be terrific.
- Mi Globe has been another quick-try: it is just a basic MIUI with a bunch of “mods” stacked on top of it, all hold together with a bit of glue and some spare tape. A lot of “smoke” but quite often based on an old core. Definitely something I would not recommend.
- MIUI MS was even worse than Mi Globe in my opinion. Also, main support is non-English based.
- MIUI PRO did not made its way into the list of ROMs I could even consider. If I have to pay for a custom ROM, I would have stayed on Apple. But that is my humble opinion.
- Ressurrection Remix by Stonetrapper was the first Custom ROM that really gave me satisfaction, both with performances and graphical customization. Unfortunately it wasn’t officially supported, so updates were sparse and soon become obsolete. A major problem for me was the incompatibility with most – if not all – GCAM porting.
- Ressurection Remix by PSY was a brief try. I don’t like performances of the custom-tailored kernel by that developer: too much power-hungry. Also, there was the same problem with updates that I bumped into with RR.
- Tesla N was a nice experiment, but with too many bugs and an overall lack of following development. Battery optimization in the end, however, was really nice.
- AOSP Extended was another experiment soon to be deleted: lack of development, too many errors with too many applications.
- SlimROM has been a nice companion for a while, good performance, good battery life. But again, Kernel optimizations were too much power-hungry and in the end has become unstable for my usage.
- crDroid was just a burning star, at least for me. Tried and went over pretty soon. None of the purposed “optimizations” were significant for me, but battery life was among the best.
- dotOS never made its way after day 6 on my device. I wouldn’t recommend it if you are looking for stability.
- CosmicOS was a great ROM, I enjoyed using it while updates were constant. Then It became troubling with more recent apps, and has a lot of problems with recent GCAM ports.
- AEX has ben a kind of “hate-love” for me. Nice customizations, but in the end too many custom choices rendered it difficult to integrate on daily usage for me. (personally I didn’t find it smooth and lag-free as described).
- LineageOS has been my arriving point in all my experience with Custom ROMs: it has a strong Android core bringing all the most recent Android features and functionalities to my Note 2. It is kind of “barebone out-of-the-box” since there is no customization and you will need to tweak and adapt to your needs. It may require more time at the beginning, with a steep learning curve, but on the long term, it is worth the shot. I’m happily using the Official Nightly straight from LineageOS Download Page: updates are constant, performance is exceptional (provided you take time to iron-out some kernel optimizations according to your needs) and battery life is really good. There is full compatibility with GCAM ports (provided of course you pick the one which works best on Mi Note 2) and all Android Core Functions (like NFC Payments, that are crucial for me) works good. Plus, with some Magisk Modules I could choose which aspects – derived from official Pixel – I want to include and I’m really happy with the final result.
Please note that this is just a brief summary of my personal experience with the aforementioned ROMs, and thus it represents a personal opinion that has no intention whatsoever to diminish and/or deny and/or belittle he hard work of all developers.
I hope my experience could help you finding the best ROM for your needs.
N3OMOD said:
I have tried almost any Custom ROM out there for the Mi Note 2: I started with the MIUI-based ones and then moved away looking for something better, without so many customizations.
- MIUI Developer has been a quick-try, but I soon abandoned it. Too much bloatware for my requirements, slow developments and an overall grade of customization that rendered impossible using some android functions. (some examples: android pay, contactless payments with 3rd party apps, biometric advanced unlock not reliable, notifications were a total mess, background apps force-closed by system despite all settings, etc.)
- xiaomi.eu has been a nice start, but it is still very similar to MIUI and without significant improvements. Development is quite constant, but most of the times BUGs are depending on the source MIUI, hence most limitations are the same. Battery life is quite incoherent: for some weeks it may be fine and then for a couple of versions it could be terrific.
- Mi Globe has been another quick-try: it is just a basic MIUI with a bunch of “mods” stacked on top of it, all hold together with a bit of glue and some spare tape. A lot of “smoke” but quite often based on an old core. Definitely something I would not recommend.
- MIUI MS was even worse than Mi Globe in my opinion. Also, main support is non-English based.
- MIUI PRO did not made its way into the list of ROMs I could even consider. If I have to pay for a custom ROM, I would have stayed on Apple. But that is my humble opinion.
- Ressurrection Remix by Stonetrapper was the first Custom ROM that really gave me satisfaction, both with performances and graphical customization. Unfortunately it wasn’t officially supported, so updates were sparse and soon become obsolete. A major problem for me was the incompatibility with most – if not all – GCAM porting.
- Ressurection Remix by PSY was a brief try. I don’t like performances of the custom-tailored kernel by that developer: too much power-hungry. Also, there was the same problem with updates that I bumped into with RR.
- Tesla N was a nice experiment, but with too many bugs and an overall lack of following development. Battery optimization in the end, however, was really nice.
- AOSP Extended was another experiment soon to be deleted: lack of development, too many errors with too many applications.
- SlimROM has been a nice companion for a while, good performance, good battery life. But again, Kernel optimizations were too much power-hungry and in the end has become unstable for my usage.
- crDroid was just a burning star, at least for me. Tried and went over pretty soon. None of the purposed “optimizations” were significant for me, but battery life was among the best.
- dotOS never made its way after day 6 on my device. I wouldn’t recommend it if you are looking for stability.
- CosmicOS was a great ROM, I enjoyed using it while updates were constant. Then It became troubling with more recent apps, and has a lot of problems with recent GCAM ports.
- AEX has ben a kind of “hate-love” for me. Nice customizations, but in the end too many custom choices rendered it difficult to integrate on daily usage for me. (personally I didn’t find it smooth and lag-free as described).
- LineageOS has been my arriving point in all my experience with Custom ROMs: it has a strong Android core bringing all the most recent Android features and functionalities to my Note 2. It is kind of “barebone out-of-the-box” since there is no customization and you will need to tweak and adapt to your needs. It may require more time at the beginning, with a steep learning curve, but on the long term, it is worth the shot. I’m happily using the Official Nightly straight from LineageOS Download Page: updates are constant, performance is exceptional (provided you take time to iron-out some kernel optimizations according to your needs) and battery life is really good. There is full compatibility with GCAM ports (provided of course you pick the one which works best on Mi Note 2) and all Android Core Functions (like NFC Payments, that are crucial for me) works good. Plus, with some Magisk Modules I could choose which aspects – derived from official Pixel – I want to include and I’m really happy with the final result.
Please note that this is just a brief summary of my personal experience with the aforementioned ROMs, and thus it represents a personal opinion that has no intention whatsoever to diminish and/or deny and/or belittle he hard work of all developers.
I hope my experience could help you finding the best ROM for your needs.
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Wow what a full answer !!
I was previously on CM13 with my OPO, and move to Mokee on my Zuk Z2 Pro so LineageOS would be pretty simple for me to deal with it.
I currently trying the miui latest based on Android 8.0, and it seems fine, but indeed, the customization is not as much easier that on LOS (CM Based).
I will go with LOS latest though and provide some feedback.
But what about camera ? I've read here and there that all custom roms are suffering from camera issues.
What is the best alternative to make it work properly ?
And, which Magisk module do you recommend ?
Thanks !!
oliv1208 said:
Wow what a full answer !!
I was previously on CM13 with my OPO, and move to Mokee on my Zuk Z2 Pro so LineageOS would be pretty simple for me to deal with it.
I currently trying the miui latest based on Android 8.0, and it seems fine, but indeed, the customization is not as much easier that on LOS (CM Based).
I will go with LOS latest though and provide some feedback.
But what about camera ? I've read here and there that all custom roms are suffering from camera issues.
What is the best alternative to make it work properly ?
And, which Magisk module do you recommend ?
Thanks !!
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My top three are:
1. Miui Pro
2. Android Pie (pixel port)
3. Pixel rom
Hi guys,
I want to flash a new ROM on my Xperia Tablet Z (running the last offical stock ROM) which became very slooooow during the last months. Since I have not read or done anything about custom ROMs for quite a long time, I have no idea about current developments. So I hope you can help me finding the best ROM for my needs!
Thanks a lot in advance!
What is important:
- lean (the smaller, the better - I do not need any sophisticated features or add-ons, no Sony bloatware or whatever)
- fast
- stable
- no bugs or non-working functionality (like e.g. no bluetooth function, sound problems etc.)
- dual audio via bluetooth (if possible)
What is not important:
- having the latest version available (just for having it)
- fancy design
- additional software
P-A-L-A-D-I-N said:
Hi guys,
I want to flash a new ROM on my Xperia Tablet Z (running the last offical stock ROM) which became very slooooow during the last months. Since I have not read or done anything about custom ROMs for quite a long time, I have no idea about current developments. So I hope you can help me finding the best ROM for my needs!
Thanks a lot in advance!
What is important:
- lean (the smaller, the better - I do not need any sophisticated features or add-ons, no Sony bloatware or whatever)
- fast
- stable
- no bugs or non-working functionality (like e.g. no bluetooth function, sound problems etc.)
- dual audio via bluetooth (if possible)
What is not important:
- having the latest version available (just for having it)
- fancy design
- additional software
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Since 3 weeks I'm running the official LineageOS 15.1 (Oreo) on my tablet (WiFi only, aka SGP311 aka pollux_windy). There's also a flavour for the LTE model (pollux). Extremely reliable, fast and lean. Nightly updates; not necessary to update every night, though, but at least once a month for latest security patches is fine. Make sure you pick the right version.
Only drawback I'm aware of is that GPS functionality currently is broken. But that appears to be true for every Oreo or Nougat based custom ROM I tried so far. If you really need GPS then you'll have to go back to a a version that's old enough (apparently before April or May 2018). This one here had working GPS when I tested it 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately it didn't have any updates since several months now.
Can't say anything about bluetooth audio, though. But I think I would have read about it if there was a problem.
Good luck.
lm089 said:
Since 3 weeks I'm running the official LineageOS 15.1 (Oreo) on my tablet (WiFi only, aka SGP311 aka pollux_windy). There's also a flavour for the LTE model (pollux). Extremely reliable, fast and lean. Nightly updates; not necessary to update every night, though, but at least once a month for latest security patches is fine. Make sure you pick the right version.
Only drawback I'm aware of is that GPS functionality currently is broken. But that appears to be true for every Oreo or Nougat based custom ROM I tried so far. If you really need GPS then you'll have to go back to a a version that's old enough (apparently before April or May 2018). This one here had working GPS when I tested it 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately it didn't have any updates since several months now.
Can't say anything about bluetooth audio, though. But I think I would have read about it if there was a problem.
Good luck.
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Ok, the older one is a bit too old, I guess. Android 6 won't support dual bluetooth audio and is not really up to date any more. I think I should not go less than Android 7.
Hopefully, they will solve the GPS issue on Oreo. And hopefully, they will do so without the need of flashing a new firmware but just a simple update!
Thanks for telling me about your favorite ROMs, Im089! If there are no other ideas, I think I will give LineageOS 15.1 a try although GPS is needed time by time.
Okay, I might be pre-biased, but I have heard about Sony firmware being exceptionally buggy even after many updates. (By all means, this is not Sony-exclusive problem.)
Can people still using the stock firmware confirm whether it is acceptable for daily use? How often do you reboot the phone?
I was actually planning on buying the phone with the suspicion that I will have to install LineageOS right away. Is there any experince of running LineageOS on it? Do all the nice features, like 4k screen, work?
lockywolf said:
Okay, I might be pre-biased, but I have heard about Sony firmware being exceptionally buggy even after many updates. (By all means, this is not Sony-exclusive problem.)
Can people still using the stock firmware confirm whether it is acceptable for daily use? How often do you reboot the phone?
I was actually planning on buying the phone with the suspicion that I will have to install LineageOS right away. Is there any experince of running LineageOS on it? Do all the nice features, like 4k screen, work?
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Hey there, I hope you're doing okay
Answering your question, yes, upgrading from a stock rom to a custom rom will make your experience a lot better. not only in performance, in battery , and customization
and even better if you root + stock rom, that's it. your phone value will increase because not only can you experience the latest Android 13 but you can also do multitasking work very smoothly
Also, battery consumption will be reduced twice, and you can customize it starting from the icons, status bar, and lockscreen. Not only that, you can also install root modules
i mean, you can also use xiaomi camera app on your sony phone camera
think about it with sony camera and xiaomi camera software
If you can do everything, i will consider not buying a new phone rather than saving that money and investing it to make more money and buy an iPhone, but still, Android is better
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Okay, I might be pre-biased, but I have heard about Sony firmware being exceptionally buggy even after many updates. (By all means, this is not Sony-exclusive problem.)
Can people still using the stock firmware confirm whether it is acceptable for daily use? How often do you reboot the phone?
I was actually planning on buying the phone with the suspicion that I will have to install LineageOS right away. Is there any experince of running LineageOS on it? Do all the nice features, like 4k screen, work?
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bro and also, there are more roms than lineagos, so think about it
follow this forum
Sony Xperia 1
The Sony Xperia 1 is a 6.5" phone with a 1644x3840p display. The Snapdragon 855 chipset is paired with 6GB of RAM and 64/128GB of storage. The main camera is 12+12+12MP and the selfie camera is 8MP. The battery has a 3330mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
It makes no sense to install a custom ROM on a phone like the Xperia 1 close to launch. All the unique features of the phone (mainly the cameras) are locked behind the Sony custom API that is used by the stock apps running on the Sony app framework.
So at the very least you will need a Magisk module that ports over the latest version of the app framework to any generic ROM, and then install the stock (camera) apps.
Personally, I find the stock ROM close enough to AOSP that I haven't felt a need to install any custom ROM for the past 5 years now. When you install a custom ROM you are simply trading Sony bugs for things like missing implementations, partial hardware support etc.
There is nothing buggy. It's close to the os pixels launch with, their custom version of AOSP.
Just has a few more apps for camera stuff.
As an owner of the major flagship devices, this is the best all around experience and the best camera.
I recently had a Xiaomi 13 pro and thought it'd camera was best, nah this beats it and the os is leagues better. I have a pixel 7 pro also and I honestly won't ever use it again in comparison and I have the best roms I could build for it.
And as the others have said lineage is not an immediate thing anyone should just flash, and it's one of a gazillion roms and definitely not the first ROM I would flash...