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Has anyone else seen the iphone 4 commercial saying the screen is the highest resolution screen ever on a phone?
I thought the vibrant had a better screen? It definitely looks better than the iphone four though.
The iPhone 4 does have the highest resolution ever. Samsung claims that the SAMOLED screens have better viewing angles and all that ****. Its really just what u think overall I guess.
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The pixels and the screen size on the iphone 4 have a better looking screen while the vibrant has a bigger screen but lesser pixels so yeah the iphone 4 screen is better but iOS sucks =]
the iPhone 4 has a 3.5 inch LCD screen has a resolution of 960 x 640
the vibrant has a 4 inch S-AMOLED screen that has a resolution of 800 x 480
the S-AMOLED screen displays colors clearer and truer and is easier to see in the sun, the iPhone 4 has an insane pixel density that makes things look cleaner
its a matter of preference really once you let an iPhone 4 owner watch Avatar on your vibrant they will be extremely jealous
That's pretty surprising.
The kid with the iphone 4 finally got pissed at me and quoted the commercial lmao.
But I still think the vibrant looks cleaner plus bigger screen=better.
We compared angry birds visuals on lowest brightness. I won
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The pixels and the screen size on the iphone 4 have a better looking screen while the vibrant has a bigger screen but lesser pixels so yeah the iphone 4 screen is better but iOS sucks =]
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"Better looking screen"?! Are you for real?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=xiO3s8NdQ34&v=xiO3s8NdQ34&gl=US
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ive compared the I4 and Vibrant tirelessly after seeing my friends I4. I was blown away and confused by how good the I4 OS looks, its pretty shocking because there is nothing else like it, at least in the domestic mobile device arena. I was actually pissed off that my vibrant looked so much fuzzier, i almost stopped using it and just pulled out my old nexus I was so bummed.
But after I looked into it further it became clear that the I4's visual advantage is limited to the OS, which is definitely important but it doesnt include media, so the Vibrant's samoled does have an advantage in that department. Also, I think the I4 is much easier to see in daylight, the Vibrant is somewhat better than than the Nexus, which is virtually invisible under the sun, but the Vibrant is still no treat to use outside.
The I4 is far and away better looking as far as the operating system which basically includes all lines; apps and their icons, text, the browser, you cant see pixels, its not even close. Also, the old and new Iphones alike scroll without blurring like Android does (I believe its because of GPU acceleration which, if Im not mistaken, Android will add with Gingerbread?), it keeps its resolution while scrolling which makes a big difference visually, particularly in the browser. With Android phones, once you are pressing the screen to scroll in the browser, you can see a huge difference between pressing and not pressing, as soon as you let up the screen goes back to its optimal quality. But the Vibrant absolutely looks better with all media.
I4 has more pixels on a smaller screen with crazy pixel density, so that part really cant be personal preference, unless you prefer fuzzier lines/text. But it is relative, if the I4 didnt exist I would be wild for the Vibrants screen in media and the OS alike. But the I4 obviously has a better look in the OS alone, but not media.
tonomon said:
That's pretty surprising.
The kid with the iphone 4 finally got pissed at me and quoted the commercial lmao.
But I still think the vibrant looks cleaner plus bigger screen=better.
We compared angry birds visuals on lowest brightness. I won
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Comparing Angry Birds is a bad comparison - the iPhone version is not optimized for the iPhone4 display, I don't think. It's a lower resolution than the Android version.
Retina display has higher pixel density, and you have to try real hard to distinguish between the pixels, however if you put two screens together and just look at them without digging your nose into your phone you can hardly see that SAMOLED is a bit washed out compared to the Retina, but once you fire up a high quality video SAMOLED will take it any day due to its brightness and dynamic contrast. I do think colors on Sammy are over saturated like with almost all of their LCD/LED panels.
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the iPhone 4 has a 3.5 inch LCD screen has a resolution of 960 x 640
the vibrant has a 4 inch S-AMOLED screen that has a resolution of 800 x 480
the S-AMOLED screen displays colors clearer and truer and is easier to see in the sun, the iPhone 4 has an insane pixel density that makes things look cleaner
its a matter of preference really once you let an iPhone 4 owner watch Avatar on your vibrant they will be extremely jealous
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very true, my iphone 4 friends are jealous of my screen
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yeah the iphone 4 have a better screen when we are talking about pixels but when it comes to watching video files, there's no way any other phone will beat our super duper amoled screen.
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ive compared the I4 and Vibrant tirelessly after seeing my friends I4. I was blown away and confused by how good the I4 OS looks, its pretty shocking because there is nothing else like it, at least in the domestic mobile device arena. I was actually pissed off that my vibrant looked so much fuzzier, i almost stopped using it and just pulled out my old nexus I was so bummed.
But after I looked into it further it became clear that the I4's visual advantage is limited to the OS, which is definitely important but it doesnt include media, so the Vibrant's samoled does have an advantage in that department. Also, I think the I4 is much easier to see in daylight, the Vibrant is somewhat better than than the Nexus, which is virtually invisible under the sun, but the Vibrant is still no treat to use outside.
The I4 is far and away better looking as far as the operating system which basically includes all lines; apps and their icons, text, the browser, you cant see pixels, its not even close. Also, the old and new Iphones alike scroll without blurring like Android does (I believe its because of GPU acceleration which, if Im not mistaken, Android will add with Gingerbread?), it keeps its resolution while scrolling which makes a big difference visually, particularly in the browser. With Android phones, once you are pressing the screen to scroll in the browser, you can see a huge difference between pressing and not pressing, as soon as you let up the screen goes back to its optimal quality. But the Vibrant absolutely looks better with all media.
I4 has more pixels on a smaller screen with crazy pixel density, so that part really cant be personal preference, unless you prefer fuzzier lines/text. But it is relative, if the I4 didnt exist I would be wild for the Vibrants screen in media and the OS alike. But the I4 obviously has a better look in the OS alone, but not media.
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What are you talking about, I've used my phone in direct sunlight in the middle of the day and the screen is easily readable with MINIMUM brightness, unless your screen is dirty and is being extra reflective because of it, this screen works amazing in the sun, on full its clear even with glare
Also, my vibrant's browser does not blur, I just tested it for a goods few mins and no bluring at all
And lastly on discussion, the i4's screen resolution + the smaller size of the screen kinda makes you think its sharper but its a smaller screen...does a higher resolution help it at all? Do you see any distinguishable difference from a lower res screen?
The only advantage i4 has is how dim and how bright the display can get because its an lcd however super amoled wins overall
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Doesn't super-Amoled give a blueish tint on whites? on my i4 the browser sucks, it gives pattern checker board things when scrolling super fast, and on android i never got this.
IMHO overall the S-amoled is better, the colors are more vivid but it's funny how the maker of both displays is Samsung
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IMHO overall the S-amoled is better, the colors are more vivid but it's funny how the maker of both displays is Samsung
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Lol then samsung wins
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What are you talking about, I've used my phone in direct sunlight in the middle of the day and the screen is easily readable with MINIMUM brightness, unless your screen is dirty and is being extra reflective because of it, this screen works amazing in the sun, on full its clear even with glare
Also, my vibrant's browser does not blur, I just tested it for a goods few mins and no bluring at all
And lastly on discussion, the i4's screen resolution + the smaller size of the screen kinda makes you think its sharper but its a smaller screen...does a higher resolution help it at all? Do you see any distinguishable difference from a lower res screen?
The only advantage i4 has is how dim and how bright the display can get because its an lcd however super amoled wins overall
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I've had the blurry browser srolling on all my Google phones. Its more noticeable if you've used an iPhone for a while then used a Google phone for a while. Just go to this forum, and look at the arrows pointing right and the icons especially the envelopes to the left of the thread titles. Now slowly scroll, you'll notice the envelopes almost blinking, and the lines become jagged off and on. So when you scroll normally theres a subtle choppiness. But really its only annoying because iPhones don't do it they are smooth, I thinking its the gpu acceleration which we should have shortly. Android hadn't said why they have put off gpu acc so long. Or maqybe they have but I don't know about it. As far as sunlight it could he better but coming from a nexus I would say the vibrant is indeed a treat
I hope this isn't too off topic. I've over clocked and lag fixed my vibrant, I'm trying to show up this guy at my job that has iphone4 how do you run a benchmark test on iphone so we can compare? I'm at 1700 benchmark right now
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I hope this isn't too off topic. I've over clocked and lag fixed my vibrant, I'm trying to show up this guy at my job that has iphone4 how do you run a benchmark test on iphone so we can compare? I'm at 1700 benchmark right now
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There's linpack for iPhone, but it isn't made by the same company, so I am not sure how *valid* the comparison would be. There isn't really any universal benchmarking tools that exists on both platforms. So you are SOL at the moment.
Dunno why this turned into a iphone vs galaxy s post but here is a link for an unbiased view on both of these phones screens (scroll to bottom);
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_vs_apple_iphone_4-review-500p3.php
Most people won't be able to tell the difference in my opinion. Now if you are blowing up pics and text you will probably will see the difference. The super amoled blew me away the first time I saw avatar on it, Iphone can't do that.
After using the mega for a couple of weeks the size is awesome. I'd be disappointed if Samsung doesn't at the very least make a 6.3" Note 3.
Would you consider a Note 3 if it had a smaller screen size than 6.3" ?
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After using the mega for a couple of weeks the size is awesome. I'd be disappointed if Samsung doesn't at the very least make a 6.3" Note 3.
Would you consider a Note 3 if it had a smaller screen size than 6.3" ?
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Nope. It's like when I got the original Note, anything smaller didn't interest me as it felt like a downgrade. Having the Mega for almost a month, the size is normal to me now and I don't feel it lacks in performance even at mid range specs.
My next phone should fulfill the following criteria:
* Maximum possible screen size for a device that still fits my pocket
* Removable battery with higher capacity
* Better camera lens with optical stabilisation / xenon flash
* Higher resolution screen (maybe 6.5 but same body size as the Mega)
* Quad/Octa core CPU with high end graphics + 3Gb RAM or more
* Spen and waterproof not necessary
The only phone I'm waiting for now is the Galaxy Mega 2.
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The only phone I'm waiting for now is the Galaxy Mega 2.
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Yes, same here,I love this phone
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After using the mega for a couple of weeks the size is awesome. I'd be disappointed if Samsung doesn't at the very least make a 6.3" Note 3.
Would you consider a Note 3 if it had a smaller screen size than 6.3" ?
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Every phone should be this size. I cannot imagine anything smaller. If only you could see the reactions i get. iPhone owners stand behind me peeking at my gorgeous screen and the awesomeness interface. I have had people willing to jump to Android cause of this device.
Yes, Apple heeds to hurry with their 5.7" phone! 4" just doesn't cut it any more.
Yes, I'll be disappointed. It won't be 6.3 unfortunately, unless they go down the route of releasing multiple screen size options.
They will probably watch to see how well the Xperia Z Ultra sells.
Yes just bought mega instead of experia ultra
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I totally agree with you on that in fact this phone is so awesome people really notice the big bright display. I can tell you the display so beautiful so stunning so accurate and color reproduction that it's unbeatable at this size. The biggest balls of them about the phone as it has been able to run everything that I've thrown at it it just simply doesn't lag not a single lag in any of the high end games or applications simply remarkable
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Doesn't worry me the least as I'm definitely going for the z ultra. A real high end phone.
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Just bought th8s mega with no regret
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I own this now its awesome!
I have the Samsung Galaxy make a 6.3 and it's such an awesome phone it has got a gorgeous high definition 6.3 in screen the best part about this is that it's the biggest phone which can be easily pocketed. the size is just perfect its just big enough to be pocketed and big enough to compete with any tablet at the same time there's absolutely no compromise on screen quality as well as the screen size playing games on this huge devise is the treat watching movies is simply awesome reading ebooks is so simple and so beautiful and convenient you don't have to zoom on web pages you can view the full screen web page the doubt zooming in you can read smallest of the small text very easily and as far as gaming goes this phone is a real monster when it comes to processing power the Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 CPU clogged at 1.7 gigahertz gives the necessary power to smoothly run all high definition games the games open up really quick and have absolutely zero lag even on the most and resource intensive games so far I have not seen a single leg in any of the high and high definition gamesthis phone clearly is the best size and price combination you don't have to carry your tablet you don't have to carry your computer at the same time you don't have to struggle with the smalls clean you don't have to the zoo every corner of your phone to read text it's so convenient and soul majestic
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....I have the Samsung Galaxy make a 6.3 and it's such an awesome phone it has got a gorgeous high definition 6.3 in screen the best part about this is that it's the biggest phone which can be easily pocketed. the size is just perfect its just big enough to be pocketed and big enough to compete with any tablet at the same time there's absolutely no compromise on screen quality as well as the screen size playing games on this huge devise is the treat watching movies is simply awesome reading ebooks is so simple and so beautiful and convenient you don't have to zoom on web pages you can view the full screen web page the doubt zooming in you can read smallest of the small text very easily and as far as gaming goes this phone is a real monster when it comes to processing power the Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 CPU clogged at 1.7 gigahertz gives the necessary power to smoothly run all high definition games the games open up really quick and have absolutely zero lag even on the most and resource intensive games so far I have not seen a single leg in any of the high and high definition gamesthis phone clearly is the best size and price combination you don't have to carry your tablet you don't have to carry your computer at the same time you don't have to struggle with the smalls clean you don't have to the zoo every corner of your phone to read text it's so convenient and soul majestic[/QUOTE]
you lost me at the zoo.. and sorry to hear your CPU is clogged.
I am not looking forward Note3 but Mega2. I would like an even bigger screen, from 7" to 7.3" FHD with slim bezel. My pocket still have room for something bigger. The size limit is that I can hold it firmly with one hand and I can do swipe up/down and from the side with my thumb. Dual core is enough for me. I do not do gaming. I mostly surf web. Weight increase by no more than 50g. Yes I would like a one-hand held tablet with phone function on the go. Also look forward to 8 hours on screen time (average 50% of max. brightness), and a replacable battery.
I'm just disappointed at the specs the only thing making it almost worth while is the 13mp camera...
But WTF @ Just a bigger s4 and another quad-core processor, unless ya wanna scarifice LTE for an octa-core.
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I am not looking forward Note3 but Mega2. I would like an even bigger screen, from 7" to 7.3" FHD with slim bezel. My pocket still have room for something bigger. The size limit is that I can hold it firmly with one hand and I can do swipe up/down and from the side with my thumb. Dual core is enough for me. I do not do gaming. I mostly surf web. Weight increase by no more than 50g. Yes I would like a one-hand held tablet with phone function on the go. Also look forward to 8 hours on screen time (average 50% of max. brightness), and a replacable battery.
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Look to the International version of the Tab 3 ..7 inch....slim bezels and phone function..
I just dont like the NO LED flash/flashlight...
just have to wait....
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How much do the phone enabled 7" Tab 3's run? The Mega might be a better bet, what with importing and such.
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Look to the International version of the Tab 3 ..7 inch....slim bezels and phone function..
I just dont like the NO LED flash/flashlight...
just have to wait....
good luck
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I think, without a Full HD screen, Tab3 7" size and form style would not be worthwhile when compared to Mega 6.3.
The Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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Even at QHD I can see the weird rainbow-sh look in the display. AMOLEDs with pentile pattern look worse than something like IPS at the same resolution.
Im not sure if it's because of the curves or the QHD but the screen looks AMAZING. Great contrast between whites and blacks and so crisp for web browsing.
Definitely one of the best screens available in smartphones. WOW effect is still present for me.
I think the edges ruin the screen for me. If the S7 had been larger I wouldn't have gotten the edge.
I say this as a previous Note 7 owner. The Note 7 edge wasn't so steep and didn't blur out text/pictures that go over the edge anywhere near as bad.
I will gladly buy an S8 edge outright if it holds the design of the Note 7's edge.
Believe that IPS screens have more definition.
Not a bad screen, but if I compare my iPhone 6s Plus between this S7 Edge, iPhone looks more clear.
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Believe that IPS screens have more definition.
Not a bad screen, but if I compare my iPhone 6s Plus between this S7 Edge, iPhone looks more clear.
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I personally don't think the clarity is any better, but the colors are far more realistic which may be what causes that thought. While the S7E is better than previous samsung phones I've had, their colors are insanely over saturated. That just is a samsung thing in general. Their TVs are the same way. Most of the stock adjustments are horrible and I could never own one without it needing calibrated.
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I personally don't think the clarity is any better, but the colors are far more realistic which may be what causes that thought. While the S7E is better than previous samsung phones I've had, their colors are insanely over saturated. That just is a samsung thing in general. Their TVs are the same way. Most of the stock adjustments are horrible and I could never own one without it needing calibrated.
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There are several options in settings > display > screen mode to adjust colors.
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I personally don't think the clarity is any better, but the colors are far more realistic which may be what causes that thought. While the S7E is better than previous samsung phones I've had, their colors are insanely over saturated. That just is a samsung thing in general. Their TVs are the same way. Most of the stock adjustments are horrible and I could never own one without it needing calibrated.
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I do know about saturation on AmoLed screens. I´m actually comparing both phones right now, and looking closely to them, I can swear iPhone has more like definition, despite of resolution on S7E.
You are right about TVs, their colors are too much strong for me, thats why I prefer LG, curved screens are insane.
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Yeah, it doesn't come close regardless of those settings to the more realistic IPS display. I do blame Samsung, I think the displays are capable of realistic colors, but samsung is at fault for their love of over saturation.
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I do know about saturation on AmoLed screens. I´m actually comparing both phones right now, and looking closely to them, I can swear iPhone has more like definition, despite of resolution on S7E.
You are right about TVs, their colors are too much strong for me, thats why I prefer LG, curved screens are insane.
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Do you have the phone set to WQHD? I was comparing mine to my dads Iphone 6S Plus last night and couldn't tell a difference minus the heavy color saturation. I started using some B&W images to compare to try and remove the color problem. Tried to pick some pictures that were more on the W end than the B end to keep it relatively fair. Used some rather large pictures, larger than either display can show, which also plays a role in which compresses better. WQHD is 2560X1440 and the 6S Plus is 1920X1080. I did not compare two 1080P images and so the Iphone may win here. I can't say for sure.
Now if you were to ask me to compare my old Note 3/4 to the Iphone 6 Plus at the time, I would 100% agree with you.
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Yeah, it doesn't come close regardless of those settings to the more realistic IPS display. I do blame Samsung, I think the displays are capable of realistic colors, but samsung is at fault for their love of over saturation.
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This article seems to say otherwise. http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm
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Yeah, it doesn't come close regardless of those settings to the more realistic IPS display. I do blame Samsung, I think the displays are capable of realistic colors, but samsung is at fault for their love of over saturation.
Do you have the phone set to WQHD? I was comparing mine to my dads Iphone 6S Plus last night and couldn't tell a difference minus the heavy color saturation. I started using some B&W images to compare to try and remove the color problem. Tried to pick some pictures that were more on the W end than the B end to keep it relatively fair. Used some rather large pictures, larger than either display can show, which also plays a role in which compresses better. WQHD is 2560X1440 and the 6S Plus is 1920X1080. I did not compare two 1080P images and so the Iphone may win here. I can't say for sure.
Now if you were to ask me to compare my old Note 3/4 to the Iphone 6 Plus at the time, I would 100% agree with you.
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Yes, on WQHD, on 1080p doesn't have any chance to fight.
I am not sure what it is, just feeling more satisfied with 6s Plus. I have played with Settings on screen for S7E, but it's not close. It may be that I've used my 6s plus for a year and I'm new with the S7E, got used to ips.
Anyhow, I feel same as you with saturation. Samsung could do it better.
I used to own an Iphone 6s and the difference in screen quality is huge.I love my s7 edge!
I really like my S7e in every way but an Iphone 7 plus display looks better to me.
Doesn't really bother me though.
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This article seems to say otherwise. http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm
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says exactly what I am saying...
Screens fine, but over saturated to hell and back. Yes it has a color management to help, but it can't fix horribly handled saturation by Samsung.
"As expected the Galaxy S7 OLED spectra are relatively narrow with deep notches between the primaries, which results in highly saturated colors that are adjusted with display Color Management to improve image color accuracy"
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says exactly what I am saying...
Screens fine, but over saturated to hell and back. Yes it has a color management to help, but it can't fix horribly handled saturation by Samsung.
"As expected the Galaxy S7 OLED spectra are relatively narrow with deep notches between the primaries, which results in highly saturated colors that are adjusted with display Color Management to improve image color accuracy"
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According to the article from DisplayMate, the the average color error (from sRGB) of the S7 Edge is 1.5 JNCD and broke the previous record for color accuracy. I see no evidence that Samsung was unable to properly calibrate the S7 Edge display in Color Management, as it had the least average color error for smartphone displays at the time of review.
kinda disappointed with whiteness of the screen
my opx and oppo f1 s have much whiter screen.this one is yellowish. any tweaks suggested?
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According to the article from DisplayMate, the the average color error (from sRGB) of the S7 Edge is 1.5 JNCD and broke the previous record for color accuracy. I see no evidence that Samsung was unable to properly calibrate the S7 Edge display in Color Management, as it had the least average color error for smartphone displays at the time of review.
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I once bought a Pioneer Kuro 50" Plasma TV. It was, at the time, heralded as the most accurate set available. Display Mate and others did their tests etc and several AV mags used the TV as a reference. It cost me £2700.
I sold it at a £900 loss 6 months later.
Never got on with it and honestly never understood what all the buzz was about. Whilst blacks were deep whites looked ... not white. Worse, in scenes with a lot of white content the brightness dimmed further. The thing also buzzed in tune with brightness levels.
The test reports didn't or hardly did touch on these well known problems often discussed on owner forums.
Moral ... don't believe everything you read.
I also feel that for me a good LCD still has the upper hand in naturalness picture wise overall compared to Amoled which, in comparison, seems over saturated. (I use basic mode and an app called Screen balance)
Other than that, I think the S7E is a good device and I probably will use it another year.
My next phone will likely have an LCD display though unless Samsung change their Amoleds in some ways (or introduce more versatile screen adjustments)
Saturation levels may well also depend on the resolution
If every pixel is used you likely get more Saturation. In Nougat you can lower resolution to HD. I haven't updated yet as I want more S7e user feedback on A7 (I have exceptional battery life on MM and no issues).
I would be interested to hear if anyone noticed less Saturation with reduced resolution, ideally backed up by measurements.
I can't see the differents between FHD and 2k with my eyes
... the price! Those phones can't possibly be twice as good as the Axon 7 to justify such a price. I for one can't wait to see what the Axon 8 will look like. My wish list:
A screen a little bit bigger.
(Having used a 6.4" Z Ultra for a long time, I find the AX7's display rather limiting. And the trend is towards bigger displays anyway, as the S8 and S8+ demonstrate.)
Illuminated hardware keys.
(For ****'s sake how hard can that be?)
A camera a little bit better.
(A flash on the front camera and a dedicated camera button - like on Sony's phones - would not be bad ideas either).
Keep the speakers and sound quality!
(Absolutely don't mess with that, ZTE, it's absolutely perfect as is.)
Waterproof.
(I know speakers are hard to waterproof but the rest of the phone shouldn't die if it gets dropped in water.)
A bigger battery!!
(The battery is never big enough.)
That's about it! The rest of the AX7 is pretty close to perfection.
The only thing I agree with is the camera although the one in the Axon 7 is okay.
Illuminated buttons I don't like. I always kept them disabled on the Note 4.
What I'd improve is the vibration motor, which sucks and makes the phone feel cheap every single time I type a letter... It's too strong and makes an annoying audible sound.
Way overpriced.
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How is this related to forum?
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It's not, but also not forbidden.
Should be moved to general I think.
On topic now:
Seems like the actual improvements in the smartphone industry have decreased over the years, and so, most companies do whatever they brainstormed at the labs, and call it revolutionary and try to reinvent the wheel, year after year.
I don't like the S8, I personally think it's pointless.
Not to mention the fact that it's overpriced as hell.
Negligible differences over the S7.
Nothing major going for it really.
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Illuminated buttons I don't like. I always kept them disabled on the Note 4.
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To each their own. If the illumination can be turned on and off, then everybody's happy.
I probably wouldn't consider touching the new Samsung devices with a ten foot pole.
As for the Axon 8, I agree with you about needing illuminated hardware keys, a (much) better set of cameras with their own dedicated flashes, the same or better audio quality, and waterproofing (because why not). I would also like an updated SOC, a screen with better viewing angles, and less proprietary crap going on. It kills me that this phone is handicapped on custom ROMs because ZTE wanted to use their own stuff rather than going with standard APIs (e.g. camera software).
Oh, don't get me wrong, the S8 looks like a nice (and gorgeous) device. Samsung always seems to do hardware right. Bixby might be good, but I generally assume most people I'll replace it with Google's offerings.
For $750? Fat chance. No way is a phone worth that. Hell, a person could spend just a bit more than the price on the Plus' tag to get any number of great computer components, the greatest laptop of the year, or something else actually worth close to one grand. I don't understand how these expensive phones continue to sell.
I also couldn't willingly choose a phone without official support for an unlocked bootloader.
Here's to hoping the next best thing comes along and actually fulfills the requirements of that title.
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The only thing I agree with is the camera although the one in the Axon 7 is okay.
Illuminated buttons I don't like. I always kept them disabled on the Note 4.
What I'd improve is the vibration motor, which sucks and makes the phone feel cheap every single time I type a letter... It's too strong and makes an annoying audible sound.
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You can turn down the vibrate in Gboard settings it doesn't suck it's too powerful
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You can turn down the vibrate in Gboard settings it doesn't suck it's too powerful
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I turned it all the way down and it's still way too powerful. And it makes a high-pitched sound like the phone is not well constructed.
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I would also like an updated SOC, a screen with better viewing angles, and less proprietary crap going on. It kills me that this phone is handicapped on custom ROMs because ZTE wanted to use their own stuff rather than going with standard APIs (e.g. camera software).
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You don't know what you're talking about. The camera software can be used on LineageOS, first phone I have that can do that (LG G2 and Galaxy Note 4 couldn't)
Better viewing angles? It has the same display as the Galaxy S7, an amazing AMOLED screen, which have the best viewing angles possible. And this is not even a TV anyway so it's not a crucial thing.
I've never felt like the viewing angle needs improvement. But a few times while using the phone outside in broad sunshine I found myself wishing for more brightness.
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You don't know what you're talking about. The camera software can be used on LineageOS, first phone I have that can do that (LG G2 and Galaxy Note 4 couldn't)
Better viewing angles? It has the same display as the Galaxy S7, an amazing AMOLED screen, which have the best viewing angles possible. And this is not even a TV anyway so it's not a crucial thing.
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By no means am I saying the device is a bad phone or anything. In fact, this honestly is probably my favorite device ever.
Still, I would greatly appreciate DNG support, which the device would have if ZTE had used Google's camera API 2. Unfortunately --as far as I know-- raw photos are only supported through the ZTE's own camera in manual mode. That bugs me. I don't like being forced to use things I wouldn't otherwise in order to get the experience I want.
If you use Lineage you know the camera is not the sole or even the most apparent place in which ZTE's awkward implementation of software and drivers has caused trouble for development. I only chose it as my example because it affects me the most, but issues such as the one any non-stock based ROM has with audio distortion are only present because ZTE either didn't stick to standards or chose to complicate their drivers and stuff.
Customizability is Android's core selling point for me, so being unable to use whatever I want exactly as I want it detracts from a device's appeal. I should be able to use whichever camera app I want with DNG support. I should be able to listen to good quality music in a non-stock ROM. ZTE made it harder for developers to give users those options than they should have.
As for the SOC and the screen, I'm just adding stuff to a wish list for an updated phone. Again, by no means are either the screen or the chip poor. Quite the contrary, they were perfect last year. However, there's no point in the 8 having anything other than the best of this year's silicon if it is to be marketed as another flagship killer. There are people who would choose not to buy the phone just because the number 835 looks greater than 820. The Axon 8 deserves just as much consideration as every phone that comes out, and not choosing to upgrade the SOC would unfortunately place it at a disadvantage (despite the fact that the 820 is a magnificent beast in it's own right).
The viewing angle thing is literally the world's slightest grievance. I spend a lot of time reading on my phone because I haven't got a dedicated e-reader anymore. If I'm lying on my stomach with the display pointed a bit away from my face there is a very slight blue tinge. It is extremely minor and no worse than what I've seen on any phone (much better than many). Just, moving forward I'd rather see the screen further refined rather than changed to something bigger or with a higher resolution or something else unnecessarily showy just for the hell of it (as will likely have to be the case for marketing purposes).
Sure a phone isn't a TV, but they're being used increasingly for media consumption and the like (hence the push for fancier aspect ratios and all that this year). There's no reason to leave a display that will be used for media consumption with an inaccuracy due to narrow viewing angles that will widen a bit by simply using a more recently manufactured screen.
On another note, I wish the 2.5D glass were just flattened so that tempered glass screen protectors could be properly compatible. I tried to get my nephew to upgrade to an Axon 7 rather than an iPhone and the only thing that kept him back was his bad luck breaking devices and the tendency to slap on a tempered glass protector that emerged from the same. That basically completes the list of what would make this phone perfect for me, if not necessarily for other people.
None of that is to say the device is bad. With some very slight refinement, the Axon 8 should once again be a serious contender for the best phone of the year.
Hi All,
I'm currently using Tab S4, but I want to switch to S7 11 inches. As we all know there is a LCD display.
Generally AMOLED is better, but do I see big difference between these two? I could order S7+, but it is just too big for me.
Can you please advise? I don't want to be disappointed every time I look on my new tablet.
Thanks
personally i would go amoled anyday. lcd the blacks will look dark grey.
Accustomed to the AMOLED display now going back to a LCD... eeh. Since i like having most of my stuff in dark mode anyways, the AMOLED will be considerably better on battery life for me. Even it being slightly bigger (1" x .5" roughly) vs the S4.... 12.4" screen imo would be worth it. I'm looking forward to the S7+ myself!
Going from tab s4 to the s7 plus screen is seriously impressive.
The screen with 120hz is the best I have ever seen.
I use my S4 as a huge google maps / waze GPS when in the car, is the S7+ screen outside the legal limits if you get pulled over? I think 11 inches is the largest screen you are allowed to have ( United States)
I have both the Tab S 7 and the S7+.
Avoid the S7 as the screen looks terrible, dull and pixelated. It doesn't even hold a candle to the screen of the Tab S3.
In contrast the S7+ screen looks glorious.
I had the tab s4, s5e and recently picked up the regular tab s7. During regular use, I would say there's not a huge difference, but the viewing angles are a little better on the amoled screens. If you watch content in low light, you will notice that the blacks aren't as inky black....but on my amoled screens, I get a bit of black crush/banding when displaying greys at low brightnesses.
I would say that using it is a much better experience than the tab S4, if you include the keyboard case. It makes it much closer to an actual 2-1 device compared to the prior generatios.
No comparison s7 lcd is crap compared to s4 and s6 ambled. S7 plus screen is fantastic. If you want lcd buy an ipad
I have not used other tablets but own the note 9. I didn't expect the LCD to look great after all the reviews. Thankfully I have been surprised by how much I like it. I am drawing, gaming and content and the only thing I wish it included was the keyboard and the themes store. I will get the keyboard later. 11" 120Hz screen is very nice. Having the 5g version this will be a really fun tablet.
Have you people actually used the S7? I have the S7+ but I've used the 11" S7 and it's a really really nice screen. I can't imagine the S4 looks better. Do not be afraid to buy the S7 if it's the form factor you want.
Please stop telling people the S7 screen looks good compared to amoled. If it were true samsung would have put the new LCD on both models and we wouldn't see every flagship phone even from apple starting to use OLED. If you don't care about vibrance and aren't using for media then the s7 is probably fine for you, but that does not mean the screen is as good as OLED, it just means you don't care. There simply are no LCDs that compare to OLED, phone, tablet or TV. The s7 has a well made "nice" looking LCD, the s7+(and S6, S4, S3, S2) have beautiful AMOLED displays and samsung should be ashamed.
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Please stop telling people the S7 screen looks good compared to amoled.
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I don't think anyone is saying that. I think the point is to compare the Tab S4 screen to the Tab S7. The S7 has a higher resolution than the S4 and is a really really good screen for not being AMOLED.
Lucas155 said:
I don't think anyone is saying that. I think the point is to compare the Tab S4 screen to the Tab S7. The S7 has a higher resolution than the S4 and is a really really good screen for not being AMOLED.
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yup
The next marketing victim.
Simply go to wikipedia or ask s.o. with knowledge. But avoid sponsored reviewers on YouTube living from the stuff they present.
OLED are great for average usage. Biggest advantage: pitch dark blacks and strong contrasts as well as saturation.
Biggest down-side: uneven decay by color over lifetime. -> strongest color shift, burn-in effect...
LCD can be much brighter, have the highest color accuracy and stability, but lack the OLED high saturation and contrasts. Hence, blacks are not really dark.
It always come to the use case.
You wanna play, watch movies, use many apps. Great: OLED is for you. Most people even do not keep their devices longer than 2 years, so burn- in will not appear. Even my 3.5 years old s8 phone have not a really notable burn-in. And for the color shift I care by adjustments the rgb levels.
You want a working device, showing all day long office, use it as a display mount on a wall, showing static areas: OLED will have burn-in within less of a year.
That is the reason you will not find OLEDs in offices, not to talk from company's relying in color accuracy.
There's a reason, companies like Samsung spend billions in developing new techniques like Q-\Micro-LED.
Finally: the s7 has a really great LCD, superior to most others LCD devices. In contrast to OLEDs, it lacks perfect blacks and oversatturation. Does it fall behind professional monitors? Not really - but every OLED will.
If color accuracy is a thing for you? Go for the s7, especially you do not like the bigger size of the s7+. If perfect black and strong contrast is your thing, take the s7+, but remember the mentioned draw backs of OLEDs.
Of course LCD can be brighter, they just put in brighter edge or back lighting at which point your color accuracy and consistency across the device goes to crap. This is one reason why anyone who calibrates an LCD TV set's base brightness quite low.
Either way I'm done arguing, the one thing that was said that is correct is "go see them for yourself" don't believe anyone here(including me) which screen is better for you.
Everyone sees differently. I don't see any colors the same as others do so the S7 screen looks great. Not better and certainly not any less then any OLED I have looked at.
I barely touch my note 9 these days. Love the screen size etc for gaming and watching movies in bed.
I don't know where people learnt that AMOLEDs are better, they are worse than LCD: Amoleds has little more details in black with blacker blacks at the cost of having less dynamic range with burned highlights (false high contrast illusion, for a high contrast to be high you need details in shadow and highlights), and the worse thing you will find in any Amoled is PWM that is not present in the S7 LCD (point your cell camera in super slow motion to an Amoled screen and see what you get in any Amoled/Oled brand...), there is a reason why the specs of high end monitors says NO PWM, thus for a tablet is important not to have AMOLED if you don't want eye strain or other health issues as the time pass.
When I bought my Tab S7 was because of the LCD display, speed and audio output, last week I used it to sign a contract very well in the place of my turtle Onyx Boox Note (I don't use often the pen but is very responsive, the Onyx feels more like a paper but the screen is prone to scratches); I had Amoleds before in tablets and were horrible for my eyes and I don't like the burned highlights. I have been using the S7 for a month and I'm very happy with my choice and I use much less my S10+ (I hope Samsung will release smartphones with LCD and not curved screens...)
I don't see any reason why in a tablet someone should use Amoled.
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Please stop telling people the S7 screen looks good compared to amoled. If it were true samsung would have put the new LCD on both models and we wouldn't see every flagship phone even from apple starting to use OLED. If you don't care about vibrance and aren't using for media then the s7 is probably fine for you, but that does not mean the screen is as good as OLED, it just means you don't care. There simply are no LCDs that compare to OLED, phone, tablet or TV. The s7 has a well made "nice" looking LCD, the s7+(and S6, S4, S3, S2) have beautiful AMOLED displays and samsung should be ashamed.
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Please stop telling people that amoled is god made. S6 screens are full of wobble. S4 and lower were oversaturated and settings couldn't be really changed. All "benifit" of amoled was there in saturation and non existent accuracy. Once saturation removed there was no real difference between lcd aside high propensity to burn depending on usage and blinking individual pixels. I am not saying that lcd is better but definitely not as much worse as you kije trying to shill about godlike amoled, but sung is always doesn't know what the hell they are doing. They doing whatever without understanding, everytime new variety of terrible obviously stupid decision.
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I am not saying that lcd is better but definitely not as much worse as you kije trying to shill about godlike amoled
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If someone should consider color accuracy at all levels of brightness (Amoleds as the brighness goes up, the colors are totally off), dynamic range and health, LCDs with no PWM are by long much better than Oleds, the only advantage of Oleds are the deep blacks, lets wait for the minileds if they will have PWM or not.
By the way, all of my phones are and were amoled, my televisions are Oled and all have the nefarious PWM (LG say they don't but is a lie, I checked them with my camera) but I rarely watch them.
What about your laptop?... did you checked PWM before buying it or did you only check battery life, CPU and memory? Most of the laptops has tremendous PWM that is really bad to your eyes, but nobody is talking about this...
Why Apple and other brands put Amoled in their phones? because of consumerism, Samsung marketing (LG for Oled TVs) tried to convince hard the public for lot of years that the deep blacks is the way to go but they didn't explain at what cost including your health.
Tab s7 also has PWM according to notebookcheck review