What external battery will work with the Galaxy S8 considering it has USB C now? There was a mess awhile back with people arguing over what was safe and what isn't. Will popular external battery brands such as Anker PowerCore+ be safe or work with the new Galaxy S8?
I've never had a problem with any of my external batteries and any of my phones. I think if you stick with a decent brand, you'll be ok. Just don't use those crappy ones you get from gas stations or whatever.
What's really important is the usb C cable you gonna use, i've been using external batteries with my lg g5 without any issue so far because i keep using the og cable . Don't use any cheap usb C cable or it might kill your device.
Kintertreker said:
What external battery will work with the Galaxy S8 considering it has USB C now? There was a mess awhile back with people arguing over what was safe and what isn't. Will popular external battery brands such as Anker PowerCore+ be safe or work with the new Galaxy S8?
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I have used my Anker Powercore+ 10050 and Powercore 20100 with my Galaxy S7, S6, Pixel, Nexus 5x, Nexus 6P, Lumia 950, HP Elite X3, Note 5, and my iPhone 6, 6s and iPad Air2 and Air devices just fine. I imagine the S8 shouldn't be a problem.
For my devices that use USB-C, I got an Anker "USB-C to USB 3.0" 3ft that is on their web site (ordered via Amazon). From what I understand using a USB-A to USB-C cable doesn't allow for "fast charging." But it does allow me to charge my Pixel, Nexus, Elite X3, etc at "standard rate" just fine.
I'm not sure what "standard" the S8 is supposed to use for "fast charging" . I don't know if it will be QC2.0, QC3.0, QC4.0, or the same USB-C standard that the Pixel, HP Elite X3, Nexus 5x, etc support. So I don't know if I'll need to upgrade my battery pack to one with USB-C port on it, like the PowerCore+ 20100 USB-C Port.
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But why you want to use external batteries? S8 has powerful battery in-build at this time so dont worry about that.
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I had purchased one of these a while ago for an older phone. You can just reuse the old ones- no need to buy a newer one.
Don't buy sketchy Type-Cs. If you are unsure, Anker is always reliable.
Does anybody already know any battery case that's already out?? Cheers
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I have used my Anker Powercore+ 10050 and Powercore 20100 with my Galaxy S7, S6, Pixel, Nexus 5x, Nexus 6P, Lumia 950, HP Elite X3, Note 5, and my iPhone 6, 6s and iPad Air2 and Air devices just fine. I imagine the S8 shouldn't be a problem.
For my devices that use USB-C, I got an Anker "USB-C to USB 3.0" 3ft that is on their web site (ordered via Amazon). From what I understand using a USB-A to USB-C cable doesn't allow for "fast charging." But it does allow me to charge my Pixel, Nexus, Elite X3, etc at "standard rate" just fine.
I'm not sure what "standard" the S8 is supposed to use for "fast charging" . I don't know if it will be QC2.0, QC3.0, QC4.0, or the same USB-C standard that the Pixel, HP Elite X3, Nexus 5x, etc support. So I don't know if I'll need to upgrade my battery pack to one with USB-C port on it, like the PowerCore+ 20100 USB-C Port.
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If it's anything like the note 7, any battery pack that has a USB A port and supports fast charging will support fast charging on the Gs8. The pixel uses type C power delivery which is really different from Quick Charge. I used the same battery pack from my note 5 but using a type C cable and had no issues with fast charge. Another thing to remember is that if you have a crappy cable, no fast charger will make it charge fast. The oem cable is always a good place to start.
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If it's anything like the note 7, any battery pack that has a USB A port and supports fast charging will support fast charging on the Gs8. The pixel uses type C power delivery which is really different from Quick Charge. I used the same battery pack from my note 5 but using a type C cable and had no issues with fast charge. Another thing to remember is that if you have a crappy cable, no fast charger will make it charge fast. The oem cable is always a good place to start.
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But that is just it... *IF* the S8/S8+ use QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0 over USB-C, then sure, any battery pack with a USB-A port that supports QC2/3 should fast charge the S8/S8+ with a quality USB-A to USB-C cable.
But if the S8/S8+ instead uses the USB-C fast charge standard that the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc use (which is NOT QC2.0/3.0) then its another matter. A Battery Pack with USB-A ports likely wont fast charge the S8/S8+.
When I initially posted, I saw nothing speaking of which spec the S8/S8+ uses. I have since seen a few unboxing videos on Youtube which show the S8/S8+ wall charger. It appears to be a QC2 compatible, with the same specs (output voltage/current) as the wall charger that comes with the Galaxy S7. So if that is correct, then yes, any battery pack that supports QC2 should continue quick charging the GS8/S8+ . And the question now becomes... Will the USB-C port on something like this RAVpower -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019IFIJW8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or other USB-C based chargers (wall, car, or battery pack) "Fast Charge" the S8/S8+?
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But that is just it... *IF* the S8/S8+ use QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0 over USB-C, then sure, any battery pack with a USB-A port that supports QC2/3 should fast charge the S8/S8+ with a quality USB-A to USB-C cable.
But if the S8/S8+ instead uses the USB-C fast charge standard that the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc use (which is NOT QC2.0/3.0) then its another matter. A Battery Pack with USB-A ports likely wont fast charge the S8/S8+.
When I initially posted, I saw nothing speaking of which spec the S8/S8+ uses. I have since seen a few unboxing videos on Youtube which show the S8/S8+ wall charger. It appears to be a QC2 compatible, with the same specs (output voltage/current) as the wall charger that comes with the Galaxy S7. So if that is correct, then yes, any battery pack that supports QC2 should continue quick charging the GS8/S8+ . And the question now becomes... Will the USB-C port on something like this RAVpower -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019IFIJW8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or other USB-C based chargers (wall, car, or battery pack) "Fast Charge" the S8/S8+?
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What's you're talking about is type C power delivery (which is what the pixel supports and uses for fast charge if I'm not mistaken.) QC 2/3 is not compatible with type c power delivery. QC 4 has the ability to use both, but not QC 2 (which is what it looks like the gs8 uses). So to answer your question, I doubt it. I think the voltage on type c can handle more, so it may charge faster than micro USB, but not as fast as Quick Charge. If you just need a new battery, I'd look for one with type C input/output as well as quick charge 3 and USB power delivery. This article helped a lot when I was looking for a battery pack for the Note 7.
http://m.thewirecutter.com/blog/quick-charge-usb-c/
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What's you're talking about is type C power delivery (which is what the pixel supports and uses for fast charge if I'm not mistaken.) QC 2/3 is not compatible with type c power delivery. QC 4 has the ability to use both, but not QC 2 (which is what it looks like the gs8 uses). So to answer your question, I doubt it. I think the voltage on type c can handle more, so it may charge faster than micro USB, but not as fast as Quick Charge. If you just need a new battery, I'd look for one with type C input/output as well as quick charge 3 and USB power delivery. This article helped a lot when I was looking for a battery pack for the Note 7.
http://m.thewirecutter.com/blog/quick-charge-usb-c/
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Thank your for the link, that will be handy for a few of my friends, I might have even read that a while back too(it looks familiar, but I can't recall). I understand the differences. I was trying to answer the OP's question at the time saying I wasn't sure what standard over USB-C the S8/S8+ was using.. so I didn't know which batteries would "fast charge" the S8/S8+ but they all should work to charge at some rate..
I'm set with batteries.. I already have that RAV (since I have a Pixel, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, HP Elite X3, Lumia 950, Huawei p9 for work which all use USB-C), and a few Anker and Aukey in various sizes/capacities that support 5V/2.4A and QC2/3 for my Samsung and apple phones/tablets.
As far as I can tell, with USB-C "Power Delivery" we don't need quickcharge anymore. PD is the new industry standard equivalent of QC, is being pushed by Google, is the only one fully and officially compatible with the USB-C spec and will likely be REQUIRED in future versions of android (https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2...mm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility/). There is no longer any reason to be looking for Quick Charge unless you want to continue to use your existing equipment. What you should be looking for is Power Delivery compatible equipment and cables instead, as they will be future proof. Once Google force PD to be used in future versions of android, QuickCharge will die (thankfully) and we can have a single charging spec that everyone can have guaranteed compatibility with without paying royalties to Qualcomm. Frankly its great news that the S8 has PD (although I am not entirely sure if it is actually using it for fast charging or not), it means I can buy PD gear without having to go out and buy QC stuff thatll probably be obsolete in a year or so.
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As far as I can tell, with USB-C "Power Delivery" we don't need quickcharge anymore. PD is the new industry standard equivalent of QC, is being pushed by Google, is the only one fully and officially compatible with the USB-C spec and will likely be REQUIRED in future versions of android (https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2...mm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility/). There is no longer any reason to be looking for Quick Charge unless you want to continue to use your existing equipment. What you should be looking for is Power Delivery compatible equipment and cables instead, as they will be future proof. Once Google force PD to be used in future versions of android, QuickCharge will die (thankfully) and we can have a single charging spec that everyone can have guaranteed compatibility with without paying royalties to Qualcomm. Frankly its great news that the S8 has PD (although I am not entirely sure if it is actually using it for fast charging or not), it means I can buy PD gear without having to go out and buy QC stuff thatll probably be obsolete in a year or so.
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Where did you see that the gs8 has USB power delivery? Also I dont see quick charge going away especially since quick charge 4.0 supports USB power delivery. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10846/qualcomm-announces-quick-charge-4
I would love to see a single standard adopted and Google forcing oems to use USB-PD is awesome, I don't seen quick charge giving up that easy.
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Where did you see that the gs8 has USB power delivery? Also I dont see quick charge going away especially since quick charge 4.0 supports USB power delivery. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10846/qualcomm-announces-quick-charge-4
I would love to see a single standard adopted and Google forcing oems to use USB-PD is awesome, I don't seen quick charge giving up that easy.
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I read in a couple of places but nothing official and I am not sure if it applied to the SD835 or the Exynos as well, I would imagine both support it but whether Samsung has enabled it is perhaps another matter, something we could do with finding out! Samsung as clear as ever saying it has "fast charging" which means absolutely nothing. It obviously charges quickly, but what bluddy charging standard is it using when it does it!? I have heard that it only has QC2.0 not 3.0 or 4.0, which isn't particularly fast so I suspect it might be using PD for its max speeds.
It's really starting to piss me off. These devices are out there, quite a few people now have them and we still have unanswered BASIC questions like what charging method is it using and does it support UHS-II or UHS-III SD cards. Samsung support are clueless as always, the documentation tells us absolutely nothing and so far I haven't found an answer to either despite hours of searching!
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I read in a couple of places but nothing official and I am not sure if it applied to the SD835 or the Exynos as well, I would imagine both support it but whether Samsung has enabled it is perhaps another matter, something we could do with finding out! Samsung as clear as ever saying it has "fast charging" which means absolutely nothing. It obviously charges quickly, but what bluddy charging standard is it using when it does it!? I have heard that it only has QC2.0 not 3.0 or 4.0, which isn't particularly fast so I suspect it might be using PD for its max speeds.
It's really starting to piss me off. These devices are out there, quite a few people now have them and we still have unanswered BASIC questions like what charging method is it using and does it support UHS-II or UHS-III SD cards. Samsung support are clueless as always, the documentation tells us absolutely nothing and so far I haven't found an answer to either despite hours of searching!
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I know I read the sd835 supported USB-PD, but I thought the Exynos didn't. Either way, every video I've seen makes it seem like we're only getting QC 2.0.
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Well... my S8+ arrived today... So I did some tests to confirm...
As suspected, QC2 over USB-A to USB-C cable (one was included with the GS8+) is how it rapid charges.
Using the GS8+'s cable with my older Anker Powercore+ 10050 (which supports QC2.0 output), the S8+ fast charges. Using Choetech and Anker USB-A to USB-C cables and a Tronsmart 5-port multi-usb charger w/QC2.0 support, the GS8+ also reports fast charging.
Using the USB-C to USB-C cable that came with my pixel, and the USB-C port on my RAVPower 20100mAh (link in an earlier post), or my Pixel's wall adapter, the GS8+ reports "charging". So Samsung is NOT supporting USB-C Power Delivery like is found on the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc.
If you want, I can provide Amazon links to all items as a reference.
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Well... my S8+ arrived today... So I did some tests to confirm...
As suspected, QC2 over USB-A to USB-C cable (one was included with the GS8+) is how it rapid charges.
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This proves that the S8 doesn't support PD but we still don't know for sure that it does not support QC3
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This proves that the S8 doesn't support PD but we still don't know for sure that it does not support QC3
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Short of timing a charge cycle using a known QC2 charger vs using a known QC3 charger, is there a way to tell? (The Ravppwer battery I have supports QC3 and I have Anker QC2 and QC3 wall chargers, and of course the Tronsmart QC2 wall charger and Anker PowrCore+ that supports QC2)
The wall plug included with the GS8+ is the same as the one with my GS7. Based on listed outputs, it's QC2. From what I understand QC3 goes down to 3.2v which isn't listed as output voltage. if the GS8/8+ supported QC3, I would have hoped they included a charger that supported it.
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PHP:
Short of timing a charge cycle using a known QC2 charger vs using a known QC3 charger, is there a way to tell?.
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Quick Charge 3.0 is really more about efficiency and battery health then charging faster. Since Samsung fast charge is really just a subset of Quick Charge 2.0 anyway, it is possible for the phone to support 3.0 even with the same charger in the box.
In the end the only way we'll really know for sure is if Samsung ever confirms it or someone on this forum uses and in-line voltage meter while charging the phone to see if the voltage changes in 200 mv increments that quick charge 3.0 supports
i wanted to order this Auky car charger.. is it any good?
by the way im using the exynos version if its make a different
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qualcomm-3-...=item1a149455a4:g:c9sAAOSwnNBXTxFV&rmvSB=true
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Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
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Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
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Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
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Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
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Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
yasirrfc said:
Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
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Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
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...wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc.
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I prefer wireless charging for my N4 and N6.
I am using cheap QI-chargers on several places. The QI-pads can be used with almost any USB charger. Of course wireless charging is slow.
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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As long as it is Certified by qualcomm you should be fine.
Check this and if its mentioned there you can buy it:
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
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Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
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I recommend the aukey as well, I used it for my moto x 2nd gen and now my Nexus 6.
I got a Aukey one, and it's really great
In my experience and from others Anker makes good products might want to check into them. And a good charging cable is just as important.
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I have an Aukey and a Tronsmart. Both work well. Strangely enough, the quality of your USB cable also appears to play a legitimate role in whether Quick Charge2.0 is consistently recognized and used. In other words, high quality charger AND high quality cable is recommended!
just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
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I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
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just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
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Not at all... the phone is made to be compatible with QC. You can even use the QC charger with a phone that doesn't support it, what will happen is that the charger won't activate the QC and just charge at normal speed.
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Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
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As long as it is Qualcomm 2.0 Certified it is supposed to work. Motorola's "turbo charge" is just a rebranded Qualcomm 2.0 Quick Charge.
I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
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I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
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My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
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My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
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Thanks for your reply then it must be the piece that I have used had some problem
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I use this one and it works perfectly for me. It has an LED that changes color depending on whether it is in normal charging or fast charging mode. Unfortunately, I don't think it is on your list.
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I am getting a kind of a weird experience this end. I use my Huawei quick charger of the mate 8, and it is only recognized by the Motorola Nexus 6 as a fast charger after I reboot the mobile then it starts charging at 9.15 V and 1.36 Amps. it does fast charge at this volt and amps at highs of 2240 mAps on Ampere application !!
I could not figure out another way to get the charger to recognize the Nexus 6 as a fast charging phone except by rebooting, and still working on it. in the meantime I have ordered a Choetech QC 3.0 and waiting for arrival. my question does this happen on your chargers or does it connect directly to 9V when connected to chargers like Aukey, Tronsmart, Anker etc. ??
Guys, is it normal that the phone get heated like an iron box when charging ? ( Well I noted that this happens only if my battery is below 50-60% ) Using Stock charger. Same happens (heating, but temperature is lower than before) even when I use One+ charger.
UPDATE 12/17/2016 Charger still works great no issues with it and my Pixel XL
Here is the detailed testing review information http://lygte-info.dk/review/USBpower Blitzwold USC-C car charger BW-C3 UK.html
Here you can find more detailed testing reviews on other usb devices http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexUSB UK.html OR http://lygte-info.dk/info/ChargerIndex UK.html
UPDATE 11/23/2016, mentioned this charger to Nathan K, and he linked me a review done by HKJ http://budgetlightforum.com/node/45176.
COMMENTS: "He felt it was "a bit too powerful". Translation (and my opinion): it lacks overload protection safeties, avoid.
"No individual port overload protection."
UPDATE 11/15/2016: I tested with my Pixel XL and it handles 1400-1450mA in port (A) using stock a-c cable and 1450-1530mA in port (c) cabled usb-c..
UPDATE 11/12/2016; This morning I plugged in at 66% on phone, ampere showed the charger feeding 2400mA. This is as fast as my zerolemon QC wall charger on my lg g4.
BlitzWolf? 5V 5.4A USB Type C BW-C3 Car Charger 27W
http://us.banggood.com/Wholesale-Wa...t-Google-Chromebook-Pixel-wp-Usa-1008254.html
$4.90 + Free Shipping
Coupon code: b8cb34 51% off for Blitzwolf Bw-C3expired
I just found this deal on slickdeals and I am just posting the deal here if anyone wants to take advantage. I ordered 3 myself. But do not know anything other than that about the product or the site selling them. Use/Order at your own risk!
FIY: I don't think this is capable of charging the Pixel at 18w max, but it should be able to do it safely at 15w (5v 3A). It supposedly can't handle max charging two devices either. It has a permanently attached USB C cable and a USB A slot.
EDIT: Same item on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Charger-BlitzWolf-Attached-Chromebook-Macbook/dp/B01ALA75I8
PIXEL XL Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/accessories/blitzwolf-5v-5-4a-usb-type-c-bw-c3-car-t3492163
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PSA; as some of you know Benson Leung fried his Chromebook Pixel while testing. Others may not know that on November 9th Nathan K posted messing up his Pixel's Port controller as well.
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/iFweEx52Rbs?sfc=true
Be careful what accessories, cables you use, including major manufacturer name brands.
This charger is actually awesome. been using it for a year with my nexus 6p and now my pixel, it will only do 15w
Yeah it's still on sale too!
So this is legit safe? because I see all over the place everyone is 'freaking out' about the usb cables I swear when it was just micro usb cables no one cared, but now with this USB C everyone cares all of a sudden?
kazemitsui said:
So this is legit safe? because I see all over the place everyone is 'freaking out' about the usb cables I swear when it was just micro usb cables no one cared, but now with this USB C everyone cares all of a sudden?
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I wouldn't say everyone. I for instance did not freak out.
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It's only 5v 3A 15w max unless it's defective, it doesnt go any higher than the max a pixel can handle. Like the 9v/3A 12v 15v 20v...
Edit; its a clone of the nekteck on the spreadsheet, YMMV
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml#
http://www.nekteck.com/usb-type-c-c...-with-integrated-built-in-type-c-31-cord.html
kazemitsui said:
So this is legit safe? because I see all over the place everyone is 'freaking out' about the usb cables I swear when it was just micro usb cables no one cared, but now with this USB C everyone cares all of a sudden?
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Its because there were several reports with the nexus 6p usb c ports burning up and lots of micro usb to usb c adapters melting, but mostly when the cable was wiggled or phone fell while plugged in.
I think Benson Leung's Pixel fried testing correct if im wrong?
Yeap, bad cable fried it;
https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/03/benson-leung-chromebook-pixel-usb-type-c-test/
So this cable is good for the pixel no probs?
kazemitsui said:
So this cable is good for the pixel no probs?
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I tested with my Pixel XL and it handles 1400-1450mA in port (A) using stock a-c cable and 1450-1530mA in port (c) cabled usb-c.
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I tested with my Pixel XL and it handles 1400-1450mA in port (A) using stock a-c cable and 1450-1530mA in port (c) cabled usb-c.
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honestly I have no idea what that means, but I will assume its good to go for a Pixel user like me?
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honestly I have no idea what that means, but I will assume its good to go for a Pixel user like me?
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It worked, a little slower than the Google Pixel stock wall charger, and not quite what I would call FAST charging, but it didn't blow up my Pixel yet..
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It worked, a little slower than the Google Pixel stock wall charger, and not quite what I would call FAST charging, but it didn't blow up my Pixel yet..
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what do you think of this one?
http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-Q...er-p-1049810.html?rmmds=detail-top-unbeatable
Its literally the same thing but QC3?
kazemitsui said:
what do you think of this one?
http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-Q...er-p-1049810.html?rmmds=detail-top-unbeatable
Its literally the same thing but QC3?
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QC over usb c is bad and that's not $5
Pixel isn't QC.
UPDATE 11/12/2016; This morning I plugged in at 66% on phone, ampere showed the charger feeding 2400mA. This is as fast as my zerolemon QC wall charger on my lg g4.
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UPDATE 11/12/2016; This morning I plugged in at 66% on phone, ampere showed the charger feeding 2400mA. This is as fast as my zerolemon QC wall charger on my lg g4.
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alright I ordered one haha same one as you thanks for testing! lol
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alright I ordered one haha same one as you thanks for testing! lol
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Let us know how it works for you
Personally tested this charger does not back charge my car when off like some of the tested/ recommended car chargers have been found to do, including Belkin, tronsmart and visnic.
I bought one of these Aukey units but haven't tried with Ampere. <Tested: it delivers 2000ma from both ports to the pixel. Stock wall charger delivers 3000ma.> I've used it with the Pixel, Nexus 5X, LG G4 and Droid Maxx. All of them charge fast. Even the MAXX which isn't a Quickcharge phone charges quite quickly. It has a Fast charge port and a Quickcharge 3.0 port that is backward compatible. All these phones have roughly 3Ah batteries. The Pixel and 5X are type C. The G4 has Quickcharge 2.0 hardware but I don't know if the firmware was ever updated to accept more than Quickcharge 1.0.
https://www.amazon.com/Aukey-CC-T7-...838012&sr=8-2&keywords=aukey+quick+charge+3.0
Anyway, seems quality and beats all the typical 250ma car chargers that can't even keep up with google maps usage.
bump still working great and still on sale $5 shipped.
I wish I had any idea how to determine if a charger was "safe" without just looking at a list of approved chargers
I have the powercore+, works fine on my s7 edge, on my new s8 it only shows 'cable charging', not fast charging. Any ideas?
alexkaye said:
I have the powercore+, works fine on my s7 edge, on my new s8 it only shows 'cable charging', not fast charging. Any ideas?
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Try another cable just to make sure its not that
does s8 have quickcharge 3.0 for both exynos and snapdragon version ?
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Try another cable just to make sure its not that
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Just tried all the cables, no joy. Annoying, I ordered this before getting my S8, now it's a useless brick
crap, i have a speed core 2 coming from anker, hopefully it works.
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crap, i have a speed core 2 coming from anker, hopefully it works.
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Can you let me know? I just emailed their support. Annoying
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Can you let me know? I just emailed their support. Annoying
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Sure will. Comes tomorrow!
Not just different cable, make sure to try with the OEM cable first.
If it doesn't work, this is mine and it works pretty well. I tested it on S7, Note 7, S8+ and also use it to charge my Nintendo Switch through USB-C.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019IFIJW8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Not just different cable, make sure to try with the OEM cable first.
If it doesn't work, this is mine and it works pretty well. I tested it on S7, Note 7, S8+ and also use it to charge my Nintendo Switch through USB-C.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019IFIJW8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Yup, tried it with the OEM cable and third party cables... Thanks for that link - seems a little big in comparison, but will check it out!
Same here. Tested with original cable and Aukey USB 3.0 cable. Doesn't work. However, use Wall Charger with the same cable does work with quick charge.
Make sure to charge your phone sparingly or youll kill the battery cell life faster shorter charges throughout the day is healthier for the battery, and considering its a nonremovable battery this is a must know.
I was going to say, "Make sure you have fast cable charging enabled." But, fast charging doesn't work on my Anker Powercore + 26800 . Not much of a bummer to me as I've had the powercore for quite some time now, but I'd like to see the S8's technology used to its potential.
Hey guys, so i got the anker powerport speed 2 and it works fine. Here is the link to the one I have. By fine, I mean it fast charges.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IUSYF8G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I think it's more that older model doesn't support quick. charging with the USB c , I just ordered xiaomi power bank 2 because it's confirmed to quick charge with s8
My QC 3.0 wall chargers both reported fast charging, but QC 2.0 doesn't (Car charger, powercore+). Perhaps they change the definition of quick charge to QC 3.0?
I'm curious as to exactly which batteries you're trying, and are you sure the cable is plugged into a port that supports QC2 or QC3?
We had a discussion a while ago about batteries... see -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/accessories/external-batteries-t3582498
Short version... the the stock USB-A to USB-C cable that came in the box with my Verizon GS8+ (Snapdragon processor) works to quick charge with the following batteries and chargers (Phone indicates FAST CHARGING).....
older Anker Powercore+ 10050 (which supports QC2 output on its single port) They have since released an upgraded model that supports QC3
The QC2 port on my Anker PowerPort 6+ (it was QC2 when I purchased in January, and they have upgraded the model they are selling now to support QC3).
the QC2 port on my Aukey 10400 battery w/QC2 support on its single port.
Tronsmart 5 Port USB charger w/QC2 support on every port
The QC3 port on my Anker PowerPort 2 (the PowerIQ port doesn't support QC2 or 3)
The QC3 port on my RAVPower 20100mAh battery. Of course using the battery's USB-C port and a USB C to USB C cable, it does not fast charge. Using the "Smart 2.4A" port also doesn't fast charge. (that is expected because the "smart" and USB-C ports do not support QC2/3).
It also works with Choetech USB-A to C cables, and Anker USB-A To C cables
I just got a Verizon Galaxy S8... It acts the same as the GS8+. All of the above works as expected.
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I was going to say, "Make sure you have fast cable charging enabled." But, fast charging doesn't work on my Anker Powercore + 26800 . Not much of a bummer to me as I've had the powercore for quite some time now, but I'd like to see the S8's technology used to its potential.
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Dumb question I know, but I gotta ask... Anker's listed for the PowerCore+ 26800 on their web site -> https://www.anker.com/products/A1374011 indicates it only supports QC on ONE of the 3 USB ports. Are you plugged into the right port?
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Dumb question I know, but I gotta ask... Anker's listed for the PowerCore+ 26800 on their web site -> https://www.anker.com/products/A1374011 indicates it only supports QC on ONE of the 3 USB ports. Are you plugged into the right port?
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Yeah I'm using the correct port. Anker color codes which ports support QC. I noted that my Anker PowerDrive +2 fast charges the S8 with the same cable I used for my PowerCore+. So I did a little research.
The PowerDrive+ 2 supports QC 3.0. The PowerCore+ 26800 being sold on Anker's website supports QC 3.0 as well. I guess I have the older gen of the PowerCore+ 26800 because it's labeled as QC 2.0.
My assumption is that Samsung Fast Charging is compatible with QC 3.0.
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...The PowerDrive+ 2 supports QC 3.0. The PowerCore+ 26800 being sold on Anker's website supports QC 3.0 as well. I guess I have the older gen of the PowerCore+ 26800 because it's labeled as QC 2.0.
My assumption is that Samsung Fast Charging is compatible with QC 3.0.
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Well, my Samsungs (S6, Note 5, S6 Edge+, S7, S8, S8+, and Tab S3) do quick charge with my QC2 stuff... as well as my QC3 stuff. So if your Anker supports QC2 output, it should fast charge the GS8.
hmm.... No idea why it doesn't.
(I know some of the Anker PowerCore and PowerCore+ support QC only on input, to charge the powercore itself, but not output which can get really confusing, and is my only beef with Anker's products... that isn't the case here though)
EDIT: Sorry, the Galaxy Tab S3 only fast charges with my chargers/batteries that support QC3.
I also have a Anker PowerCore+ with Quick charger 2.0 and it does not fast charge my S8+. I also have a CHOETECH with Quick charger 2.0 and it does not fast charger my S8+
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I also have a Anker PowerCore+ with Quick charger 2.0 and it does not fast charge my S8+. I also have a CHOETECH with Quick charger 2.0 and it does not fast charger my S8+
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Do you have a Snapdragon based S8+? I'm guessing Yes, since you are marked with Sprint. (I ask because I don't know how fast charging on the Exynos chip based phones works)
Which model PowerCore+? This is where Anker gets confusing... For example, the PowerCore+ 13400mAh supports QC2/3 to re-charge itself, but doesn't output QC, it only outputs the standard 5/2.4A . If that is the one you have, it wont fast charge the S8/S8+. And this PowerCore+ 20100mAh doesn't support QC at all (for input or output). Same with the PowerCore+ Mini which only supports 5v/1A input and output. So they wont Fast Charge the S8/S8+ either.
Where as the PowerCore+ 10050mAh recharges itself at the standard 5v/2A, but DOES Output QC3 (the original model was QC2 when first released). This one SHOULD Fast Charge the S8/S8+ (from experience, I can say mine does). The PowerCore+ 26800 only supports QC3 on a single designated port, so using that port, it should Fast Charge the S8/S8+. (I don't have this battery, so I can't confirm)
With reports of unable to Fast Charge using these QC2/QC3 batteries and chargers... I wonder if Samsung got something messed up in the phones? (I remember having issues with older Motos and my QC2 stuff... where the Motos didn't charge properly but my Samsungs did). Or could it be firmware/rom related from different carriers? Like mine is Verizon and works, and yours is Sprint...
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
Jaxidian said:
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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Oh, then I misunderstood something. I did read it quickly.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I hear you - I did buy a multifunction car charger that supports both QC3.0 and DASH - I will report whether that works when it comes (hopefully later in the week if not the following week). I have also gotten the specialized versions from WEB- in China so once I get those I will let you know.
So I got one of the adapters today - this is an older version that does DC to Type C, so I did not expect it to work (even though it specifically listed VOOC and DASH support - maybe it worked for an older OP version).
This one was from eBay, and supposedly the seller sent me the wrong item (WEB- makes a 12V and a 20V PD version - and instead of the 20V version they sent me the 12V version instead - which can only decrease voltage due to the builtin buck converter inside).
So the question is - does it work with DASH charging? --- No, it did not. However, it is still an interesting adapter because it has broad fast charge technology support. They market this little adapter to convert your "dumb" laptop charger into a "multifunctional charger."
Interesting facts:
1. This adapter requires 12V for it to function. It does start turning on at around 11V or so, and anything below that will cause the output to shut off and the operation light to go red. The USB to USB version automatically requests QC @ 12V, but obviously, this cannot be done on a DC jack (on this particular version).
2. As soon as the voltage going in exceeds 11.5V, the output turns on with a steady blue status indication.
3. The USB-C version of this adapter supports USB-C Power Delivery (PD2.0) with three selectable voltages 5.00V @ 3.03A, 9.00V @ 2.39A, 12.00V @ 2.31A (there is a 20V version that supposedly does 15 and 20V as well for laptops, but the seller sent me the wrong version).
4. The input side is a 5.5 x 2.5 DC jack, which is somewhat odd as an input because most input jacks use the smaller 5.5 x 2.1 jack (you can use an adapter on it, however).
5. You can see from the tester that this adapter supports pretty much everything, except VOOC/DASH and 20V QC and AFC 12V.
6. QC 2.0 9V engages just fine to charge my older Nexus 6 via a USB-C to USB-A adapter (since the D+/D- lines are intact).
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
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I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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The seller is resending me the 20V version - will let you know how that goes
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Lol somehow i posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the "what usbc are you using for your oneplus"
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Here's an update on the car adapter I have received. Note that the other adapters are still on the slow boat so I will get to them when they arrive. This isn't necessarily what you are after, but nonetheless, it's another interesting toy. If you are interested, it can be found on AliExpress under item number 32916499372.
This is a car charger that accepts 12-24V input, and also supposedly supports multiple fast charging technologies (DASH, VOOC, QC, etc). It comes with an "original" (questionable - but capable of 3.5A charge) DASH cable which is not bad at all for about $13.
Interesting facts:
1) The car charger comes with dual USB ports. One "quick charge" port and one "standard" port. The quick charge port lights up red on one side and the blue indicates the normal charge port. Some may like that it lights up, but my thought is that it's a waste of energy.
2) The Quick Charge port supports all available quick charge methods (the VOOC-DASH section don't light up probably because it doesn't use the same protocol for unblocking DASH charging that the original charger requires).
3) The charger does not require an ID chip on the USB-C cable (unlike the stock charger), which means you can use any USB-A to USB-C cable on the market to activate DASH charging (as long as the D+/D- pins are not shorted out). This car charger doesn't even have the odd PIN in the back of the USB connector for the ID communication.
4) The car charger is not as fast as the stock wall charger, which charges around 3.5A. Here are the test comparisons (allow some current variances due to battery percentage ~70-72% - note all of them had the lightning bolt on the charging indicator which indicated that DASH was indeed activated with none of these cables having D+/D- shorted):
a) Normal, 1 ft USB-A to C Cable: 2.46A
b) Bundled DASH cable, w/ car charger: 2.73A
c) Bundled DASH cable, w/ stock wall charger: 3.5A
d) Normal, 3 ft (Rankie) USB C Cable: 2.56A
e) Normal, 3 ft MicroUSB w/ USB-C Adapter (ANKER): 1.95A
f) Normal, 3 ft multi (MicroUSB + Type C) free conference charging cable: 1.32A (this one did not "pass" the fast charging test because the current is below 1.5A but nonetheless it triggered DASH charging).
Not a big difference if you use quality cables, although don't expect it to charge as fast as the wall charger - nonetheless, it is still doing pretty well with less heat generated due to lesser current.
5) As mentioned previously, the charger supports multiple charging technologies besides DASH, where it activated QC 2.0 9V on my Nexus 6 just fine.
6) Since this adapter allows 12-24V DC input, you can use a DC to lighter adapter to power this device (as you can see in my screenshots I used a laptop battery pack and a 12V router wall brick and it was able to turn on and charge my devices just fine.) This may also be a good way to have a longer reach charging solution since DASH is very cable sensitive and it is best to keep the cable length short to minimize the reduction in charging currents.
Here's a test of the 100 cm noodle cable on AliExpress (item 32806193071):
Using the stock wall charger, charging the phone @ ~50%:
The genuine OnePlus cable was able to charge at 3.657A @ 4.69V (17.15W).
The noodle cable on AliExpress was able to charge at 3.617A @ 4.81V (17.4W).
Based on the results, it seemed like the quality was as good as the genuine cable, at least the copper that is carrying the power to the phone.
Here are the test results of the final adapter I received from WEB- (the specialized VOOC-DASH version - Taobao Item #560336325713):
Stuff to note:
1) This adapter is very similar to the car adapter, in which it supports pretty much all quick charge technologies and it does not require the OnePlus ID chip to activate DASH charging. However, this adapter is QC activated and has a USB-A input interface. Like the car charger, this charger is also not as fast as the stock wall brick, although it is still relatively quick.)
2) The USB pinout schematic also looks the same as the car charger (USB 2.0 with no dangling USB 3.0 pin in the back for ID chip identification).
3) Like the other 12V based WEB- adapters, this one uses the IP6518C chipset, which supports a wide voltage input (10.5V - 32V - from the chipset datasheet).
4) The board looks fairly similar to the USB-C board, except this one has a USB-A input (which is interesting because the board has the DC 12V-24V marking on it still).
5) The board also has the POW and OK lights similar to the USB-C version.
6) Since the board accepts broad input voltages, it is not required to use QC for the input voltage. A USB-A to 5.5 x 2.1 adapter could be used to also provide the DC input, as long as the voltage is above 10.5V.
7) Although the board indeed supports down stepping a 20V DC input, it seems like it is a bit less efficient in doing so than a 12V input.
8) Similar to the previous cable tests, the quality and the length of the cable really makes a difference. The shorter and the better quality cable that is used, the better the charging rate (remember that an official cable does not need to be used for third-party chargers).
9) As mentioned previously, this charger supports other fast charging technologies, like QC2.0 - which works fine in charging my Nexus 6 at 9V.
10) This charger / adapter essentially allows any 12V @ 1.5A output to be a multifunction fast charger w/ DASH support. In my example, I used a Xiaomi router wall brick (12 V @ 1.5A DC) and it charges my phone using DASH at almost 3A output using a short 1ft USB-C cable! (the phone registers the current slightly lower at around 2750mA).
Great info, @chowfun. I was able to purchase 2 OPPO wall chargers from Asia and a 3rd party VOOC car charger which work great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78182174&postcount=24
I also got the same oneplus flat cable but 150cm length. It works good with no notable slow down.
From your findings, it looks like the WEB- adapter charge slower but that's still plenty fast and much more convenience. :good: Does it generate a lot of heat when charging a low battery?
Nice keyboard, I like it. ?
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I didn't get that one because it had a lower current rating and that the top of the charger is wider than the other one I bought. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those chargers?
Heat wise, it does generate a bit of heat with the conversion. But given that the adapter is housed in an aluminum case it's to be expected. It feels just slightly warm to the touch, but not exactly hot to the touch. Instead of that conversion being done in the phone it's just being done outside the phone which is directing the heat away from the battery...
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Nice keyboard, I like it.
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those charges?
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LOL. My wife doesn't like those RGB lights. lol
The input and output of the OPPO charger look exactly the same as the 1+ charger. It's pretty much identical except for the cosmetic (logo, prints, the USB A female is green). They're selling for $4.
On another thread, Berkowich made mention that Tab S4 supports PD Power, but not CH3.
These were not terms I was familiar with, so I turned to Google... So QC, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 make sense. The "adaptive fast charger" in the box with the Tab S4 has outputs at 5 & 9 volts, so I assume it is QC 2.0 and it switches between 5V and 9V as the battery is filled to more efficiently charge the battery. But I see QC2 talks about 5V, 9V and 12V. So is this the same and/or safe? And it isn't clear to me how PD Chargers are different? Just more current? Are they safe for the Tab S4? What is the type of non-Samsung charger to buy?
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PD typically refers to USB Power Delivery, which is a fast charging specification developed by the non-profit USB-IF organization. It is the actual open-industry standard.
Quick Charge, even though it is in many devices, is actually a proprietary standard owned by Qualcomm. Some device manufacturers choose to not implement QC even when they use Qualcomm chips in order to save on licensing fees.
QC 2.0 & 3.0 are not in compliance with the USB-PD specifications. However, QC 4.0 is.
Samsung has its own quick charging technology and only some but not all of their devices are compatible with QC 2.0 standard.
USB-PD - https://www.usb.org/usb-charger-pd
Official Certified QC device list - https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list (Note that the Tab S4 is nowhere on the list)
Let me reask the question....
I have have several different types of chargers... Older 1A and less chargers from miscellaneous devices. A few 2.4A / 5V chargers that either came or were purchased for older devices I have around the house. Two Samsung Adaptive Fast chargers (9V/1.67A + 5V/2A), one that came with the Tab S4 and another that came with an S7 Edge.
So which of these is optimum for charging the Tab S4?
Will the 2.4A charger be slower than the 2A adaptive charger?
Is there another type of charger that would work better for the S4?
Can some chargers damage the S4?
Does it make a difference if I'm using an HDMI/USB hub? (Mine always says I'm slow charging / draining the battery when I plug the 2A adaptive charger into the hub.)
Thanks for your help -- this is a more complicated subject than I thought.
Edit: there's a link on the charge time thread that leads to another link that helps answer some of my questions.
https://www.xda-developers.com/charging-comparison-oneplus-huawei/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-does-fast-charging-work/
This seems to say that the best bet is a Samsung adaptive charger or a QC 2.0 charger that will throttle back to Samsung's standard.
This doesn't answer what is best when using a hub, and what dangers there might be using non Samsung chargers.
On a related subject, years ago I learned that all USB 2.0 charging cables were not equal -- that you need to look at the gauge of the charging wires, and that you could have huge differences in charge speed based on the cable you used. Are all USB C cables equal with respect to charging? Or do you need to look for fatter gauage / bigger wires to get more current / less voltage drop over the cable?
thanks,
Joe
drjoe1 said:
Let me reask the question....
I have have several different types of chargers... Older 1A and less chargers from miscellaneous devices. A few 2.4A / 5V chargers that either came or were purchased for older devices I have around the house. Two Samsung Adaptive Fast chargers (9V/1.67A + 5V/2A), one that came with the Tab S4 and another that came with an S7 Edge.
So which of these is optimum for charging the Tab S4?
Will the 2.4A charger be slower than the 2A adaptive charger?
Is there another type of charger that would work better for the S4?
Can some chargers damage the S4?
Does it make a difference if I'm using an HDMI/USB hub? (Mine always says I'm slow charging / draining the battery when I plug the 2A adaptive charger into the hub.)
Thanks for your help -- this is a more complicated subject than I thought.
Edit: there's a link on the charge time thread that leads to another link that helps answer some of my questions.
https://www.xda-developers.com/charging-comparison-oneplus-huawei/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-does-fast-charging-work/
This seems to say that the best bet is a Samsung adaptive charger or a QC 2.0 charger that will throttle back to Samsung's standard.
This doesn't answer what is best when using a hub, and what dangers there might be using non Samsung chargers.
On a related subject, years ago I learned that all USB 2.0 charging cables were not equal -- that you need to look at the gauge of the charging wires, and that you could have huge differences in charge speed based on the cable you used. Are all USB C cables equal with respect to charging? Or do you need to look for fatter gauage / bigger wires to get more current / less voltage drop over the cable?
thanks,
Joe
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Actually does someone that has an accurate usb meter help us. When i look for the charging support for the Snapdragon 835 on the web, it says QC4.0 but i can't find any QC4.0 chargers and i think it is the same with PD that i say on the other thread (it is just a think by the way because there is no QC4.0 chargers soo it is maybe a PD equivalent).
By the way when you are using the HDMI dongle(just HDMI and charging) did you use the original charger and the cable because there is no slow charging notification when i use it?