Full restore to stock, no root, no twrp, no unlocked bootloader - LG G5 Questions & Answers

I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.

jamesvmccann said:
I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.
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There are stock ROMs (H83020a and H83020c) available to flash from twrp. You will not lock your bootloader nor lose twrp; but in order to get root again(in case you want), you will need to flash su. It worked​ for me perfectly and I have no issues with anything on my phone. The only thing that does not work (check screenshot for details) is google pay because since the phone is rooted "it does not meet the google's security standards." Now if you want to return the phone to factory state I believe there are threads here for that. If you still want to keep the phone just flash the appropriate zip and enjoy removing tmobile bloatware if you wish.
LG G5 Downloads:
Important!!!Do not flash H83010a. I read that it can brick your phone.
TMobile model is H830.
Android 6.0.1 is H83010i
Android 7.0 is H83020a and the latest version is H83020c. Find the zip of your choice.
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5

jamesvmccann said:
I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.
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Ok. If you're wanting to do 100% stock, download the complete zip for 20c from http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5/H830/H83020c/LG-H83020c-Flashable.COMPLETE-ARB01.zip there. Put it on your extsd card. Backup everything that is on your internal sd (phone memory) like pictures, videos, SMS, etc. Once you've done that, boot to TWRP. Once in TWRP wipe everything except externalsd card, I also recommend using the format option to format the internal sd. Once you've wiped and preferably formatted data go to install and install the 20c complete zip you put on your extsd card. After it's done installing just reboot. This will overwrite TWRP and you will NOT have root. Your bootloader will still be unlocked though, so you still need a PC to relock your bootloader. Also I don't think encryption will be re enabled unless you flash the kdz though. Anyways that's your best way to return to stock without using PC.

mlatelcom said:
There are stock ROMs (H83020a and H83020c) available to flash from twrp. You will not lock your bootloader nor lose twrp; but in order to get root again(in case you want), you will need to flash su. It worked​ for me perfectly and I have no issues with anything on my phone. The only thing that does not work (check screenshot for details) is google pay because since the phone is rooted "it does not meet the google's security standards." Now if you want to return the phone to factory state I believe there are threads here for that. If you still want to keep the phone just flash the appropriate zip and enjoy removing tmobile bloatware if you wish.
LG G5 Downloads:
Important!!!Do not flash H83010a. I read that it can brick your phone.
TMobile model is H830.
Android 6.0.1 is H83010i
Android 7.0 is H83020a and the latest version is H83020c. Find the zip of your choice.
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5
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Just curious what type of brick? Hard or soft? Just wanna know for future safety
Sent from my LGE LG-H830 using XDA Labs

Nick216ohio said:
Just curious what type of brick? Hard or soft? Just wanna know for future safety
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I don't remember very well; but I believe it's hard brick. When I was researching to root my phone y read that somewhere, maybe here. I'll try to find the info on my PC when I get home.
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I found the link. The advice is in the FAQ. Not sure if that would happen in your case since you have a custom ROM. The danger is when downgrading from H83010D to H83010A.
Here is the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-h830-10d-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3406505

mlatelcom said:
I don't remember very well; but I believe it's hard brick. When I was researching to root my phone y read that somewhere, maybe here. I'll try to find the info on my PC when I get home.
Update:
I found the link. The advice is in the FAQ. Not sure if that would happen in your case since you have a custom ROM. The danger is when downgrading from H83010D to H83010A.
Here is the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-h830-10d-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3406505
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Thanks bro. I totally believe it because past phones had exact issue.
Sent from my LGE LG-H830 using XDA Labs

Just for clarification, if you're on Android 7, you can not downgrade to Android 6 without first downgrading your bootloader as it won't flash correctly. Also just something to always keep in mind with LG phone's at least, is that LG uses a antirollback system. Never attempt to downgrade from a higher ARB # to a lower ARB #, if you're somehow successful it will lead to a hard brick. Every firmware that autoprime has posted states what antirollback number it is on, so always check that. On h830, every firmware since 10D has been ARB01, only 10A or earlier was ARB0. While lgup shouldn't allow you to flash (should error out), no reason to take that chance. Hopefully that helps clarify

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HTC Desire 626s - Stock Firmware/Rom?

Hey guys! Unfortunately I bricked my new HTC Desire 626s while fiddling around with xposed for lollipop after successfully rooting the phone and installing cyanogen recovery. I think if I flash the stock rom on the phone through either adb or cyanogen recovery I can unbrick it, but I have been unsuccessful in finding this file on the internet. Would anyone care to give me a link or upload the stock firmware/rom of this phone? It would really help me out, thank you!
You have to make sure the firmware is the same version or newer than the one currently on the phone as well as which carrier or region the phone is from. Without that, can't provide the correct file to download.
es0tericcha0s said:
You have to make sure the firmware is the same version or newer than the one currently on the phone as well as which carrier or region the phone is from. Without that, can't provide the correct file to download.
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Umm.. Okay so I guess I'll give you my phone's info? WAIT DOES THIS MEAN YOU CAN PROVIDE A DOWNLOAD!? IM SO EXCITED, UH OK HERE
- HTC Desire 626s
- Metro PCS USA
- Current firmware version : 1.06.1550.7
ANYTHING ELSE?? IF YOU CAN GIVE ME THAT DOWNLOAD LINK, MY MOM WONT KILL ME:crying::crying::crying: (she's really pissed :laugh Thank you btw!
Was just thinking about this...if you soft bricked after attempting to install Xposed, and nothing else, you should be able to get out of it by flashing the xposed uninstaller zip. If that does not work, stay tuned to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-626/help/htc-desire-626s-root-recovery-t3169169 as there are some others at the end of the thread in a similar predicament. It does not appear that there is an official RUU yet for the Metro version, only the T-Mobile version, and they are not compatible. Just try the uninstaller zip first because that would be the easiest thing to try and should only take a couple of minutes.
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Was just thinking about this...if you soft bricked after attempting to install Xposed, and nothing else, you should be able to get out of it by flashing the xposed uninstaller zip. If that does not work, stay tuned to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-626/help/htc-desire-626s-root-recovery-t3169169 as there are some others at the end of the thread in a similar predicament. It does not appear that there is an official RUU yet for the Metro version, only the T-Mobile version, and they are not compatible. Just try the uninstaller zip first because that would be the easiest thing to try and should only take a couple of minutes.
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I tried this before my phone got ****ed and it worked:good:! If you can help me dude that'd be great. After uninstalling or changing some stuff in priv-app on my HTC Desire 626s, when I rebooted, it would just stay in a boot loop with the optimizing app message. Any ideas?
What did you uninstall? I would ask for those apps in that thread and use a flashable zip and install via TWRP. You might also try clearing caches and/or resetting the phone again. It DOES take a long time to optimize the apps after wiping stuff as well, so sometimes it is a matter of being patient.
This is why I ALWAYS recommend to freeze apps vs uninstalling. Uninstalling them does not get you any usable space back, so there is no benefit, but it can cause issues if you do need the apps, as you can see...
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What did you uninstall? I would ask for those apps in that thread and use a flashable zip and install via TWRP. You might also try clearing caches and/or resetting the phone again. It DOES take a long time to optimize the apps after wiping stuff as well, so sometimes it is a matter of being patient.
This is why I ALWAYS recommend to freeze apps vs uninstalling. Uninstalling them does not get you any usable space back, so there is no benefit, but it can cause issues if you do need the apps, as you can see...
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I believe I uninstalled the dialer and its service in an attempt to replace them with the stock lollipop ones. How do you install TWRP on this phone? My mom has the same phone and its also rooted but hers actually works so I was thinking since TWRP has a nandroid backup setting, I could simply do a nandroid backup on hers and flash it on to mine to see if it will boot up. What do you think? And for the optimizing apps thing, it would finish optimizing, say starting apps, reboot and then optimize again and repeat. Thanks for the help btw, I really hope we can fix this.
You have to unlock the bootloader @ htcdev.com and use fastboot to install TWRP. And yes, that would work, as long as they are on the same software update. Know that when you unlock the bootloader, it will automatically wipe the phone, so make sure she has everything backed up to Google, the PC, etc.
es0tericcha0s said:
You have to unlock the bootloader @ htcdev.com and use fastboot to install TWRP. And yes, that would work, as long as they are on the same software update. Know that when you unlock the bootloader, it will automatically wipe the phone, so make sure she has everything backed up to Google, the PC, etc.
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Do you have the TWRP recovery file for me to download?
I'm afraid I'm a bit confused... How did you install Xposed and the Uninstaller without a custom recovery? Upon further searching, there doesn't appear to be a version of TWRP for your phone that I could find. Just figured you already had one. You must be on Kit Kat and not Lollipop?
es0tericcha0s said:
I'm afraid I'm a bit confused... How did you install Xposed and the Uninstaller without a custom recovery? Upon further searching, there doesn't appear to be a version of TWRP for your phone that I could find. Just figured you already had one. You must be on Kit Kat and not Lollipop?
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I installed Cyanogen recovery before flashing Xposed and the uninstaller. I thought you had the TWRP recovery img for my phone which is why I asked. I believe some developers are working on a Clockworkmod recovery for this phone which is basically the same thing as TWRP recovery, right? Anyways I guess I just have to wait until that comes out, but I was wondering if anyone who somehow got a hold of the stock rom could upload it for us to use. It would be really helpful
ClockWorkMod is the recovery that Cyanogen uses. That is able to perform nandroid backups as well.
You have to unlock the bootloader, then if you messed up your stock rom and you've updated it to something newer than what Samsung gives for a stock recoverable rom, you must first use the tmobile vers, let it fail, and then use metropcs vers.
If you messed up recovery or anything it will all go back to stock after flash.
Next just copy superuser zip file to phone, go to download mode and adb flash cyanogen recovery img. Then reboot to recovery, choose to flash update, and find the superuser. zip and flash it, voila.
https://www.mediafire.com/?8o6qtn7hlsec0zj,yqbbzb7divlcvvc
Kitkat, anyone?
Does anybody have a stock KitKat ROM for this device? I'd like to try to bypass the FRP, but am stuck on what must be either a marshmallow or lollipop ROM.
What carrier do you have?
I can send you a backup of the FRP.img for Marshmallow or for lollipop.
You can dd if= flash it to your device and you should be all good.
I am looking for any older roms for these devices too.
Seems like not too many people save the RUU and then HTC only releases the newest.
I got lollipop and marshmallow that's it.
But like i said we can fix the frp partition.
Issue is fixed
BigCountry907 said:
What carrier do you have?
I can send you a backup of the FRP.img for Marshmallow or for lollipop.
You can dd if= flash it to your device and you should be all good.
I am looking for any older roms for these devices too.
Seems like not too many people save the RUU and then HTC only releases the newest.
I got lollipop and marshmallow that's it.
But like i said we can fix the frp partition.
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I ended up fixing it using some ADB commands as noted in the "Well, I may have found..." thread. It'll be nice to have this phone out of my life. The day I had to spend with it was two days too many.

Is there any chance of soft-bricking my LG G3 if/when i install BusyBox?

Hi there, I'm not entirely sure if this is the right place to post this.. I'm kind of a noob at this as I have just joined the XDA community.
I have a rooted Verizon LG G3 VS985 running android 5.1.1. Software version VS98535B
I have been recently trying new root apps, but I have noticed that some require busybox. I downloaded the installer, but was hesitant to install because of hearing rumors of soft-bricks and bootloops after installing BusyBox. I am curious if anyone has installed busybox with a similar phone and if they installed BusyBox successfully. I don't know if this a dumb question or not. I am just a bit hesitant to install busybox because my LG G3 is my daily driver, and if it gets screwed up, I'm screwed.
Please help me....
P.S. Sorry again if this is the wrong place to post this thread...
I never had a problem installing it on any device. That said, it's always wise to make a TWRP backup to the MicroSD card before any major changes especially root related.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I never had a problem installing it on any device. That said, it's always wise to make a TWRP backup to the MicroSD card before any major changes especially root related.
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The thing is, I don't want to risk bricking by installing TWRP
zebereeh7 said:
The thing is, I don't want to risk bricking by installing TWRP
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I don't know what to tell you then.
When we root, and what we do with our phones after we root, is not according to how the manufacturer meant for us to use our devices. There's always some chance of something not going according to plan. The chance of that is usually somewhat slim when following (reliable) directions exactly, but there's always going to be a chance. You can brick your device without even rooting. No one can give you any 100% assurances, although some may try, but nothing is ever 100%, you know what I mean?
No matter what you're likely to do, there's hardly any chance that you won't be able to recover your phone. If you have your Android O/S and apps configured just right for you, at least use the built-in LG Backup in Settings/Backup. Backup to MicroSD and copy anything you don't want to lose from your internal storage to your MicroSD card. If you ever have to Factory Reset or reflash the completely stock unrooted ROM in a way that'll cause your internal storage to be wiped, then you'll be happy you made that backup.
There are both unofficial and official tools to recover your phone to complete stock just like from the factory.
If you weren't at least open to some kind of possibility of bricking, you probably wouldn't have rooted to begin with. Or at least, I should say, if you're going to root you have to be prepared for the possibility of things happening in a way you didn't mean to.
Using a custom recovery like TWRP is the easiest way to get your phone back to a known good state while keeping root.
I'm not trying to convince you to put TWRP on your device, but I will always recommend making a backup in TWRP before making major changes. If you don't and things go wrong enough, then you have to accept the fact that you'll effectively do the work you would've had to do to put TWRP on in the first place, to recover your phone to a usable state.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant, I don't intend it that way.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I don't know what to tell you then.
When we root, and what we do with our phones after we root, is not according to how the manufacturer meant for us to use our devices. There's always some chance of something not going according to plan. The chance of that is usually somewhat slim when following (reliable) directions exactly, but there's always going to be a chance. You can brick your device without even rooting. No one can give you any 100% assurances, although some may try, but nothing is ever 100%, you know what I mean?
No matter what you're likely to do, there's hardly any chance that you won't be able to recover your phone. If you have your Android O/S and apps configured just right for you, at least use the built-in LG Backup in Settings/Backup. Backup to MicroSD and copy anything you don't want to lose from your internal storage to your MicroSD card. If you ever have to Factory Reset or reflash the completely stock unrooted ROM in a way that'll cause your internal storage to be wiped, then you'll be happy you made that backup.
There are both unofficial and official tools to recover your phone to complete stock just like from the factory.
If you weren't at least open to some kind of possibility of bricking, you probably wouldn't have rooted to begin with. Or at least, I should say, if you're going to root you have to be prepared for the possibility of things happening in a way you didn't mean to.
Using a custom recovery like TWRP is the easiest way to get your phone back to a known good state while keeping root.
I'm not trying to convince you to put TWRP on your device, but I will always recommend making a backup in TWRP before making major changes. If you don't and things go wrong enough, then you have to accept the fact that you'll effectively do the work you would've had to do to put TWRP on in the first place, to recover your phone to a usable state.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant, I don't intend it that way.
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Thank you. It didn't sound like a rant at all, more like an honest answer. Now, my question is.. is TWRP or CWM even compatible with my phone? I've heard rumors of TWRP not working on 35B
zebereeh7 said:
Thank you. It didn't sound like a rant at all, more like an honest answer. Now, my question is.. is TWRP or CWM even compatible with my phone? I've heard rumors of TWRP not working on 35B
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You're welcome!
Yes. As far as I know, TWRP is the only one actively maintained for the VS985. The way I recommend installing it is downgrading to 10B temporarily. Since you're on 35B you'll likely have to use the TOT method with the new .DLL gotten from the 35B KDZ, which you can find toward the bottom of a post in the General section by @hokiealumnus.
There are instructions multiple places, one is here http://lgflashtool.net/index.php/tot-method/, with the exception of using the new .DLL I mentioned instead.
After downgrading to 10B, which will wipe all user data and your internal storage, root with the Stump app, then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to install the latest TWRP. Both rooting and putting TWRP get more complicated after 10B.
There may be other ways of getting TWRP working on 35B but this is the way I recommend and in my opinion is most foolproof and easiest.
If you do this just remember that you can use the built in LG Backup on what you have now, then you can restore it when you're back on 35B, or if you choose to flash the 46A ROM.
I'm sure it's possible to put TWRP directly on 35B by flashing the right partitions - the 12B aboot.img (bootloader) and laf.img (Download mode). If you would rather use a terminal emulator with superuser permissions and use the commands and partitions found in @bweN diorD 's stickied thread in the General section, you can go about it that way instead. I copy/paste the commands from a text file. If you type them manually and you type something wrong there's a greater chance something will be flashed wrong.
The way people temporarily brick their device on 35B trying to put TWRP on is using Flashify or TWRP Manager or terminal commands without having downgraded the bootloader and download partitions. Or I've seen users use @bender_007 's autorec TWRP app made for either 23C or 24B on 35B.
The fortune is - it´s easy fixable
I´ll work on one for 35b for sure

How to manually get nougat?

Hey XDA, I haven't been on here since my Samsung S2 years ago. I picked up a new moto Z for daydream, (amazon 499 special, 64 gb luna grey unlocked, retus software, 650-03). I bought it from the american amazon, and I am in canada. I popped in my Sasktel sim card and it works perfectly.
My questions are:
How do I manually flash nougat?
If I flash to the rogers 45 firmware, will I still be able to use my Sasktel sim?
How long until nougat comes out regardless? Should I just wait?
If I do flash to this "rogers 45 nougat", can I go back to my "vanilla" stock later? ( i just want daydream now, i bought the headset already. then when my area gets nougat, ill flash back to my phones nougat.. or does it make a difference?)
Sorry for the really random questions. I couldn't find the answers to these on the forums or on google. (reddit has been saying just wait, and don't flash)
You can try this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245 - I had success flashing the Rogers 45 firmware (am on retca software channel) but for the life of me couldn't get the Nougat update to install. I'm on Telus and had no issues with my SIM card working after I flashed to the Rogers 45. Flashed back to the retca official firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/moto-z-official-firmware-downloads-t3449837) this morning with no problems.
Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Just flash the patched bootlogo you can find here... (or, better, make one as I liked more and asked for... )
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Just flash the patched bootlogo you can find here... (or, better, make one as I liked more and asked for... )
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Going to start a new thread so as not to hijack this one
I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other ( @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own-opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... let's limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
enetec said:
I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own - opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
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Yes very good tutorial, I really likes to write something like this but I'm not good in English
Thanks again
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Thanks again
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Ahahahaha, this is only "chatting" in not-so-good-English ... :laugh:
Thanx for you *great* development here instead! :highfive:
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I'll try to give you some "sparse" answers...
- Rogers is a "not carrier locked" software so, no problem with any sim... to be honest it hasn't any special at all!
It's preferred only because between the "leaked" software versions it is the only leaked in .45 and not in .17 subversion... and a .45 is needed for Nougat OTA to apply.
If you are already on a .45 I don't think you really need to flash Roger to have the sideload OTA to apply...
- if you have your full software version on pc to flash in case, yes, you can come back from rogers BUT *only* until you are still on MM.
On this phone Nougat OTA updates a LOT of things (bootloader, baseband, perhaps something on GPT too...) and is *NOT* reversible. Or, at least, not in an easy (as safe...) way... Some have poked with it and.... we have had first bricks... (quite hard ones...).
So?
So I would eventually try in another way.
DISCLAIMER: this isn't tested first hand by me. Some other ( @erfanoabdi) in chat with me reported that it worked for him, but I've to warn that as ALL hacking & tweaking operations something could go wrong (read: bootloop & eventually soft bricks... I don't think hard bricks anyway, BUT this only my-own-opinion, ok? )
Said that... my idea is making things simpler. More... many people are reporting issues with some of the upgraded parts on Nougat (wifi, Bluetooth, etc...) AND upgraded bootloader (and GPT?) are main problems if we want to return to MM, so... let's limit the upgrade to only what's really needed...
Steps should be:
- unlock bootloader
- Flash TWRP in fastboot/fastload mode
- take a *FULL* backup of *ALL* partitions by TWRP (yes, system image too!!) and put it in a safe place (no, your phone or microSD is *not* a safe place...)
- download full Nougat retmx firmware (the only N available at moment...)
- go in fastboot/fastload mode and flash *only* boot.img and system.img using mfastload commands
- enter directly in TWRP (don't boot!) and flash patch for unencrypted kernel
- wipe cache, dalvik and *format* data (yes, format, not only wipe it...). WARNING: this will erase all the contents of your internal storage memory, so take a backup before...
- Reboot...
It should boot fine on Nougat... :fingers-crossed:
(and mantaining your ret channel, not changing it to retmx probably...)
After eventually we'll talk about root...
This way it should be ready to return to MM if needed using the same procedure (changing only boot.img and system.img with MM ones...).
Obviously this is a raw description of procedures... it is written considering that you have good knowledge of the matter and you know how to install and use drivers, adb & fastboot commands, TWRP and so on...
For more info or doubts... ask @erfanoabdi :laugh:
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Wow! Thank you for the response! This answered pretty much all of my questions, but also sparked a few more. The Moto Z was a pretty big purchase for me so I am in no hurry to lose functionality. A lot of people are using translators on here, so I'll be simple (sorry if it comes off as blunt or rude, typing with translators in mind)
I want to stay on android 7. Downgrading to 6.0 is not a worry for me.
I want to get future updates from my carrier. (official android/moto updates and security patches. I want to be able to use the "Google Tango" mod, if it comes out)
I want to be able to use the projector mod and daydream.
I do not plan on rooting my phone (maybe later), and I do not want to unlock my bootloader.
Will the retmx nougat be different then the copy of nougat I would get from retus?
Finally, is there any benefit to waiting for the OTA? Or am I getting the exact same copy of nougat on XDA, that I would in three weeks from OTA? I already bought the daydream headset, am I waiting for nothing?
*two more questions I guess*
Do I need a SD card?
do I need to unlock my bootloader to do this upgrade?
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/update-to-7-0-nougat-xt1650-03-retus-t3513095)
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245)
Sorry for all the questions. I have looked all over XDA and haven't been able to find an answer (reddit, and google too :/). I am hoping that other people will be able to read this, and have their questions answered as well.
Again, thank you. You guys are really smart.
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You can try this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/easy-flash-to-nougat-tutorial-unlocked-t3514245 - I had success flashing the Rogers 45 firmware (am on retca software channel) but for the life of me couldn't get the Nougat update to install. I'm on Telus and had no issues with my SIM card working after I flashed to the Rogers 45. Flashed back to the retca official firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/moto-z-official-firmware-downloads-t3449837) this morning with no problems.
Another issue I'm running into is that I unlocked it and for the life of me I can't seem to get the phone locked again. Minor issue but that "your phone is unlocked/untrustworthy" message when you boot up is annoying
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Awesome, so I would probably want to take note of my retus (not retca, because I bought mine from the american amazon, right?). Do I need to unlock my bootloader to get regular android 7? or did you root as well as upgrade?
Thank you for the response.
Porcelainfog said:
Awesome, so I would probably want to take note of my retus (not retca, because I bought mine from the american amazon, right?). Do I need to unlock my bootloader to get regular android 7? or did you root as well as upgrade?
Thank you for the response.
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Yup, you'll want the retus firmware I would think. I'm not sure if you have to unlock your bootloader, I did only because I was having issues with the Nougat update and thought that might be why but it didn't make a difference. I did get the Nougat update to install this morning though, tried it on another computer (stupid ADB). I did not root though, just unocked my bootloader and did the Rogers flash then the Noughat sideload.
I'd try it without unlocking the bootloader, if you get an error saying "can't read file <###>" when trying to adb sideload the Nougat update, try different ADB drivers or a different computer first before unlocking it. The couple people I know that have chimed in say they're unlocked as well but haven't indicated whether you need to be or not.
Based on your expressed needs... I'll just wait your OTA. Nothing more. It's only a matter of weeks anyway...
Sorry for being a newb and asking here but I'm finding it difficult to get my head around this.
I was originally on MM and upgraded to Nougat on unlocked I international Moto Z.
I then decided to install TWRP, root and try a new ROM. If I want to go back to stock Nougat can't it just be a case of flashing the Nougat update I have download on my computer through ODIN or is it going to be a little more complex than that?
Thanks for any help
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Yup, you'll want the retus firmware I would think. I'm not sure if you have to unlock your bootloader, I did only because I was having issues with the Nougat update and thought that might be why but it didn't make a difference. I did get the Nougat update to install this morning though, tried it on another computer (stupid ADB). I did not root though, just unocked my bootloader and did the Rogers flash then the Noughat sideload.
I'd try it without unlocking the bootloader, if you get an error saying "can't read file <###>" when trying to adb sideload the Nougat update, try different ADB drivers or a different computer first before unlocking it. The couple people I know that have chimed in say they're unlocked as well but haven't indicated whether you need to be or not.
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Ok, I'll try it without unlocking the bootloader and let you know what happens. Is your new version of nougat working properly (unrooted?)? Is there a difference between the nougat I am going to flash, and the OTA i'll get in a few weeks? (If you say there is no difference, I'll flash it ASAP without unlocking boot loader and let you know. Working daydream, playstore, and moto mods right?)
Again, thank you for helping a noob like me out.
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Ok, I'll try it without unlocking the bootloader and let you know what happens. Is your new version of nougat working properly (unrooted?)? Is there a difference between the nougat I am going to flash, and the OTA i'll get in a few weeks? (If you say there is no difference, I'll flash it ASAP without unlocking boot loader and let you know. Working daydream, playstore, and moto mods right?)
Again, thank you for helping a noob like me out.
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Seems to be working properly, at least from what I remember of Nougat on my 6P. I've had not force closes or other issues. I haven't tried Daydream apps out yet, but they did install fine (which they wouldn't under Marshmallow - got the "not compatible with your device" message). Play Store works fine, Incipio Battery Moto Mod works fine, haven't tested the others yet.
As far as what's different between this version and the OTA in a few weeks, I have no clue - but from what I gather this is a stock Nougat pulled from a device that got the OTA (don't quote me on that though hah). As for a few weeks, where are you hearing that? Can't get an answer out of Telus at all here and am wondering if maybe they're working on pushing it out as 7.1.x instead of 7.0. Who knows...
Let me know how it goes without unlocking the boot loader, having a ***** of a time trying to get it relocked lol (not the end of the world though).
pixelens said:
Seems to be working properly, at least from what I remember of Nougat on my 6P. I've had not force closes or other issues. I haven't tried Daydream apps out yet, but they did install fine (which they wouldn't under Marshmallow - got the "not compatible with your device" message). Play Store works fine, Incipio Battery Moto Mod works fine, haven't tested the others yet.
As far as what's different between this version and the OTA in a few weeks, I have no clue - but from what I gather this is a stock Nougat pulled from a device that got the OTA (don't quote me on that though hah). As for a few weeks, where are you hearing that? Can't get an answer out of Telus at all here and am wondering if maybe they're working on pushing it out as 7.1.x instead of 7.0. Who knows...
Let me know how it goes without unlocking the boot loader, having a ***** of a time trying to get it relocked lol (not the end of the world though).
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Hey so I got it onto 7.0 finally. I ended up unlocking my bootloader. I didn't try without it, I read somewhere that it could cause a soft brick. Just wanted to say thanks to you guys that helped and Prfndhatrdofman (if he reads this) for his guide.
PS
holy ****ing ****. **** adb. **** android studio. **** drivers. And ****ing .zip extentions (took me like 30 minutes to put .zip on the end of Blur_Version...zip. Yes, I am an idiot).
Telus appears to have finally updated their update page for moto z nougat. Tentative date of December 19.
Forum post - Telus
Dawnhawk said:
Telus appears to have finally updated their update page for moto z nougat. Tentative date of December 19.
Forum post - Telus
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LOL, of course they did!
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Porcelainfog said:
Hey so I got it onto 7.0 finally. I ended up unlocking my bootloader. I didn't try without it, I read somewhere that it could cause a soft brick. Just wanted to say thanks to you guys that helped and Prfndhatrdofman (if he reads this) for his guide.
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holy ****ing ****. **** adb. **** android studio. **** drivers. And ****ing .zip extentions (took me like 30 minutes to put .zip on the end of Blur_Version...zip. Yes, I am an idiot).
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Cool. And ya re ADB haha

Need Help at a Fork in a Dark Path: Flash? TOT? KDZ?

Hey folks. I'm in need of some help, but need to provide some background info as it seems there might be a few ways to correct this.
Background
I had a recent bad Nandroid mess up a restore process which somehow led to me losing root. I was on XDABBEB's 47A stock rooted ROM for months, then went to try the 3.1.1 ROM recently. I found that I wanted to go back, then BOOM! Bad restore from my data NANDROID. Then I:
Got stuck in a boot loop.
Rebooted into recovery
Saw the LG Recovery
(Stupidly?) chose to wipe cache
Continued to boot from LG Recovery
Went immediately to TWRP
Wiped Data and caches
Rebooted
At this point, I got back into 47A, but obviously without any data. I soon found that, though SuperSU was installed, it wasn't working:
There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!
If you just upgraded to Android 5.0, you need to manually re-rot - consult the relevant forums for your device!
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At this point, I checked Root Checker app and, surely enough, it says I wasn't rooted.
I checked ADB and tried to su from the prompt ($) and
Code:
su: notfound
However, adb reboot recovery brings me to TWRP
I tried TOT'ing on my Windows 10 (x64) machine, but it wasn't working:
PID: FAIL
IMEI: Unknown
[23:59: 0] CrossDL [Unknown] to [VS985].SW ***The text on this line continues, but I can't read it***
00000064
Error: [23:59: 0] CrossDL [Unknown] to [VS985].
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I'm lucky in that my phone is currently working fine. I'm on 47a with everything working fine ... just not rooted, which I would really like to be.
So, my question is, what should I do next? I know some options that I have, I just don't know what options I should try or in what order I should try them...I understand some of the jargon and background info, but I don't understand the true inner workings of rooting and therefore don't feel comfortable making these choices on my own.
So, to all of you people that are way more intelligent at this than I am...
Should I try restoring my rooted 49A backup from TWRP?
Should I try to flash SU binaries in TWRP?
Should I TOT from my work machine that is Windows 7?
Should I KDZ on Windows 10?
Thanks in advance for your collective help.
This inquiring mind wants to know!
I'm assuming that since you were running XDEBs ROM, then you do NOT have a K model of the phone. In that case, you must flash back to 10B via the TOT method. That way, you can then root with Stump and then install TWRP, flash the correct boot images, and then reflash XDEBs ROM.
Stock 47A is only rootable by Kingroot and there is NO way to install TWRP with pure stock 47A, which is why you must downgrade via the 10B TOT method. It's the boot partition that is incompatible with TWRP and they have not found a way to "bump" it to work with the stock 47/48/49A versions.
iBolski said:
I'm assuming that since you were running XDEBs ROM, then you do NOT have a K model of the phone
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Correct. xdebbeb's stock 47A on a non-K model
Stock 47A is only rootable by Kingroot and there is NO way to install TWRP with pure stock 47A, which is why you must downgrade via the 10B TOT method.
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That's why I'm confused a bit about my options. I already HAVE TWRP installed. Is having TWRP not helpful to regain root? This is causing me to feel like I'm in a weird limbo state (of options) with the phone.
It's the boot partition that is incompatible with TWRP and they have not found a way to "bump" it to work with the stock 47/48/49A versions.
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Since I have TWRP already, does that mean that my boot partition was/is/has been "bumped"?
Sorry for so many questions. I do like making sense of things that I'm told and understanding them.
Since I'm failing on the TOT method at home, is that possibly because of the Windows 10 machine? Should I try Windows 7 on a different machine?
Thanks a lot for the help, iBolski.
my.ads0 said:
Correct. xdebbeb's stock 47A on a non-K model
That's why I'm confused a bit about my options. I already HAVE TWRP installed. Is having TWRP not helpful to regain root? This is causing me to feel like I'm in a weird limbo state (of options) with the phone.
Since I have TWRP already, does that mean that my boot partition was/is/has been "bumped"?
Sorry for so many questions. I do like making sense of things that I'm told and understanding them.
Since I'm failing on the TOT method at home, is that possibly because of the Windows 10 machine? Should I try Windows 7 on a different machine?
Thanks a lot for the help, iBolski.
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You're best bet is to either flash a full 47A KDZ but you won't be able to root and TWRP will be removed and you won't be able to flash custom ROMs, like XDEBB.
Your other option is to flash to 10B via TOT method, root, reinstall TWRP Then, based on the custom ROM's instructions, you may have to flash 35B bootstack, but you'll be in a position to flash custom ROMs again.
Either flash WILL erase everything on your phone as it's like a factory data reset. Those are your only options unfortunately. TWRP cannot work under 47A as you're finding out. You will be unable to flash root, any custom roms, etc.
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You're best bet is to either flash a full 47A KDZ but you won't be able to root and TWRP will be removed and you won't be able to flash custom ROMs, like XDEBB.
Your other option is to flash to 10B via TOT method, root, reinstall TWRP Then, based on the custom ROM's instructions, you may have to flash 35B bootstack, but you'll be in a position to flash custom ROMs again.
Either flash WILL erase everything on your phone as it's like a factory data reset. Those are your only options unfortunately. TWRP cannot work under 47A as you're finding out. You will be unable to flash root, any custom roms, etc.
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I just want to make sure that you're aware that I am NOT on pure stock 47A. I'm on xdabbeb_stock_vs98547a.zip from here.
When I flashed back from his 3.1.1 ROM, I flashed to my backup of the above ROM, which had Root. The SYSTEM flash from my nandroid back to his version of 47A worked without incident, but the DATA flash of my nandroid failed, left me in a bootloop, after which I performed the actions outlined in my original post. That squarely left where I am now, with no root, but on his version of 47A (I never had the stock 47A on my device before) with TWRP as my recovery.
In the end, I'm game for trying different things, but ideally, I'd like to try the least invasive method (trying to flash SuperSU in TWRP?; trying to flash my xdabebb 3.1.1 version?) ) before trying any other method or going to the extreme method (TOT'ing). I just am trying to avoid TOT'ing since my phone IS working AND the fact that I would have to do that at work. It would suck to go from a working phone to a broken phone without being able to fix it without knowing that I tried all of the least invasive methods first. I just need guidance from people like you as to what will or won't work in my situation.
The reason for this post is that I wasn't sure that you were aware I wasn't on pure stock 47A, but on xdabebb's version, which maybe you had overlooked and offered me more options? If you were aware of that and everything above is irrelevant, then I'm cool with that. Just tell me so. I just didn't want that fact overlooked.
Thanks again for entertaining my inquisitiveness, iBolski.
Well, trying to install the SuperSU binary zip from TWRP didn't work. That got me flashing blue & red lights. I tried restoring my XDABEBB 49A 3.1.1 install and that didn't help either. Both TOT & KDZ methods are failing on my PC (Windows 10) with both not able to read the phone properly (can't see imei). I will maybe try to uninstall the drivers or just wait until Monday to try my windows 7 machine at work.
Oops.
So I took up the cause again this morning and loaded all of the tools for the KDZ method on another PC. I installed the most up to date LG drivers, rebooted, made the PC recognize my phone in every mode (Download Mode, Bulk Mode [flashing lights], and while in TWRP). The tool still wasn't working properly and not reading my phone's info. Though I had run it a few other times, I had been following instructions and hadn't changed the language to English. The last couple of times, I changed the language to English. This time, when it stopped working (not connecting to LG servers) it offered me the option to retry. I took them up on the offer ... unplugged the phone, pulled the batter, put the battery back in, entered Download mode (volume up + connect USB), reconnected and BAM!!! It did the upgrade!
So I'm back on 10B. Crisis averted.
Thanks once again for putting up with me, iBlonksi.
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So I took up the cause again this morning and loaded all of the tools for the KDZ method on another PC. I installed the most up to date LG drivers, rebooted, made the PC recognize my phone in every mode (Download Mode, Bulk Mode [flashing lights], and while in TWRP). The tool still wasn't working properly and not reading my phone's info. Though I had run it a few other times, I had been following instructions and hadn't changed the language to English. The last couple of times, I changed the language to English. This time, when it stopped working (not connecting to LG servers) it offered me the option to retry. I took them up on the offer ... unplugged the phone, pulled the batter, put the battery back in, entered Download mode (volume up + connect USB), reconnected and BAM!!! It did the upgrade!
So I'm back on 10B. Crisis averted.
Thanks once again for putting up with me, iBlonksi.
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Awesome. I saw your earlier post about being on XDEBB but that didn't matter. You were at a point that flashing back to 10b was your best option to get back to XDEB. That's why I kept saying you needed to flash back to 10B if you wanted to get back on XDEBB because where you were at that point was messed up, so it was just best to flash to 10b clean.
Glad you got it all worked out!

Verizon rooted/unlocked - deleted "My Verizon" system app now stuck on boot

Help!
I've had a verizon V30 I unlocked and rooted via the frankenstein method a few years ago.
I was running out of space recently and did some cursory research about 'my verizon' app and it was pretty large, so I made a titanium backup and then deleted it. Also did this for the basic 'messages' app built in.
Noticed the phone was a little laggy and having some hang issues after that so I rebooted. It's stuck on a Verizon splash screen with a few colorful dots.. seems stuck there.
I've tried clearing the cache and booting into safe mode all with the same result. I really do not want to do a factory reset.
What are my next steps for troubleshooting this or trying to restore that program? Any help is appreciated--I've tried to search a bit but not finding a good first step towards trying to resolve this.
Thanks!
water- said:
Help!
I've had a verizon V30 I unlocked and rooted via the frankenstein method a few years ago.
I was running out of space recently and did some cursory research about 'my verizon' app and it was pretty large, so I made a titanium backup and then deleted it. Also did this for the basic 'messages' app built in.
Noticed the phone was a little laggy and having some hang issues after that so I rebooted. It's stuck on a Verizon splash screen with a few colorful dots.. seems stuck there.
I've tried clearing the cache and booting into safe mode all with the same result. I really do not want to do a factory reset.
What are my next steps for troubleshooting this or trying to restore that program? Any help is appreciated--I've tried to search a bit but not finding a good first step towards trying to resolve this.
Thanks!
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Early on with the verizon V30 roms I found that uninstalling some of the bloatware caused boot loops. From then on I just froze them; doesnt help your space situatuon though...
If no other suggestions, you could try a dirty flash of the ROM you were running (assuming you flashed TWRP zip).
I believe you'll need MyVerizon anyway, as this is what enables VOLTE and VOWIFI on Verizon (for me, at least). So I would not recommend removing it anyway.
Granted, you're past that. I would think that dirty-flashing the ROM should restore it, potentially? That could be one way to get back to running. Another way might be to reload the APK somehow. You might need to use TWRP to do that, unless there's another way to do it from a TiBu backup? If I can help in some way (I'm on VS996) I'm happy to try.
Unless you actually deleted the apps from System, it's almost certain that a Factory Reset will solve it. But I can understand your reluctance.
I'm not sure a dirty flash will help, since the problem is your data partition. You already tried deleting cache (I presume in TWRP).
And I agree that if you could somehow reload the apk, that might do it. Does ADB install work in TWRP, despite no OS? If so, that's worth trying. First pull the apks you removed from System to your computer, then run adb install apk-filename.
But FIRST make a full TWRP data backup of what you have now!
If you have to Factory Reset, you can use TiBu to restore your user apps from that backup. I haven't tried that in years, but I assume TiBu still has this feature.
Fingers crossed for you :fingers-crossed:
And for others who see this: Careful, selective debloating IS possible, but it always starts with a full backup: TWRP if rooted, otherwise LG Backup, (which saves app data and most OS settings).
Thanks all for responses, appreciated so much. In a bit of a pinch as I needed my phone for a backpacking trip last weekend, I just moved forward as best I could on Friday. Generally I tweak my phone enough to unlock/root then let it be. I guess I got greedy/complacent try trying to de-verizonify it and clear some space as much as possible.
Two things
1) Immediate solution, and still seeking some advice:
I used LGUP to flash the Android 9 kdz as an upgrade I think to the phone. Because I had TWRP as my recovery that ran into an encryption error (I subsequently saw this caveat/warning further down in one of ChazzMatt's posts), and due to that was required to wipe/clear everything.
So now I have 'benefits' of Android 9 but no root. However my bootloader is still unlocked.. so I am still seeking advice how I can get Android 9 root. Please don't tell me I have to go back to 8 and do some stuff before going back to 9 with root. I didn't actually see in any guide how to root on 9. But it is possible I missed it/just need to apply same sequence as shown as on the guide for doing so on 8.
I'm on 30c version of PIE and keep getting bugged to install a system update which I keep putting off because I'm leery of that..but I can't freeze the process without root.
Also because I flashed the stock OS, that means I lost the custom recovery, I don't have TWRP anymore (this seems so, but looking for confirmation), right?
2) retrospect, and a question for future reference
After all this I realized like an idiot I had a TWRP backup made in 2018 after I first unlocked and rooted it. Just hanging out on my SD card, which I could have accessed via TWRP before I flashed the KDZ. If I would have restored that it would have re-installed the OS and retained my data. Is that considered a dirty flash though, like it might not have worked or had subsequent problems?
And secondly on the SD card, I found all the 'dank memes' and other downloads I was worried I'd lost, so most of the data loss tragedy :silly: was averted (main pics backup to cloud, learned that lesson after lg g4 hardware bootloop pain).
water- said:
1) Immediate solution, and still seeking some advice:
I used LGUP to flash the Android 9 kdz as an upgrade I think to the phone. Because I had TWRP as my recovery that ran into an encryption error (I subsequently saw this caveat/warning further down in one of ChazzMatt's posts), and due to that was required to wipe/clear everything.
So now I have 'benefits' of Android 9 but no root. However my bootloader is still unlocked.. so I am still seeking advice how I can get Android 9 root. Please don't tell me I have to go back to 8 and do some stuff before going back to 9 with root. I didn't actually see in any guide how to root on 9. But it is possible I missed it/just need to apply same sequence as shown as on the guide for doing so on 8.
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With unlocked bootloader on Pie, here's how you reinstall TWRP (IF you are on firmware with fastboot flash commands). Yes, I made a standalone post for this -- but if you read it it's basically just Section 6 of WTF Instructions. However, I had to make a standalone post because too many people kept thinking they had to downgrade back to Oreo, etc.
So, you can reinstall TWRP on Pie if you have unlocked bootloader. The problem is you need to fastboot flash commands to do that. VS996 firmware does not have that, which is why VS996 owners have to TEMPORARILY convert to US998 in the first place to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root. Yes, your bootloader is already unlocked, but on VS996 you don't have the necessary fastboot flash commands to reinstall TWRP.
Thus, you will need to go back to US998 firmware (flashing KDZ via Dev Patched LGUP) to get fastboot flash commands. You can do it the hard way (US998 Pie KDZ) or you can do it the easy way (US998 Oreo KDZ). With already unlocked bootloader, you don't need to go back early Oreo, you can go to last Oreo. I don't recommend flashing US998 Pie for this, as there's too many people who have trouble with US998 Pie (stuck on LG logo, etc). You just need to temporarily get fastboot flash commands, and get TWRP reinstalled.
That post I have linked in the first sentence is for unlocked Bootloader with fastboot flash commands, on any stock firmware (Pie, Oreo, even Nougat if you wanted that for some reason).
Once you reinstall TWRP, then you can go back to VS996 Pie firmware via TWRP flashable zip.
Thanks for your response, now and two years ago.. super appreciated
I only need to get to the point to put the phone in debug mode (with access to fastboot) to get TWRP installed after flashing the recent oreo kdz. After TWRP installed follow your instructions (thanks!) to flash TWRP pie..
I'll probably give it a go this weekend or tomorrow evening, but do you have a recommended link to US998 Oreo kdz? https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397933445 is fine?
Whereafter I'll follow your instructions for installing it (using LGUP patched) at: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99820a040330-kdz-t3786337
In the ROM section, go to ChazzMatt's US998 Pie KDZ thread. It also has instructions for rolling back to Oreo. Follow them to the t.
Make sure to use the Pie-compatible LGUP version in there when you roll back, and install it exactly as described in that thread.
His US998 Oreo thread will have a download link for Oreo 20h (the latest Oreo). Otherwise it's easy to find on lg-firmwares.com.
Good luck to you
Ok really that was pretty easy and not bad once I got everything lined up, did it in maybe 30 minutes or less. I'm in Pie with root now and TWRP recovery. Thank you for the help!
Two points:
1) after flashing TWRP, I got some issues when wiping, I was able to flash the VS996 ROM but kept seeing some red "twrp can't mount system" or something like this. It would be a hassle but do I need to go back and reformat/reflash? or do it dirty at least?
2) maybe related to the above, maybe (probably not) not.. and I realize magisk and other avenues might cover it these days but I'm trying to debloat the TWRP flashed VS996 ROM with Titanium Backup.. stuff like NFL and slacker radio, google music.. like I did on Oreo. But Titanium keeps giving me an error about 'can't find the apk' -- Ti says I have root. I have read a bit that Android 10 really packages the apps in there so it's not like you can just remove the ones you want. is this the case for 9 too?
suggestions for alternative tool if Titanium is kind of a dinosaur in that regard?
Thanks
Well done!
1) It's best to use Format Data in TWRP to avoid that mounting error. Unless you are certain you have no mounting problems, I would recommend doing that before spending more time setting up the OS.
2) Before trying to freeze apps with TiBu, see if they can be Disabled in the regular Apps menu. Most of the "optional" bloatware can. Of course make a TWRP backup before freezing anything with TWRP!
Water-, there is already a debloated Verizon 99630c rom out there somewhere, if you would like to try it. I'm on it now.
Sorry, I can't link it. It was made by micromod777. So do a search for him.
I also use tibu, but there is another app (?) out there called migrate that backs everything up. You might look for it and try it. (I did use it a month or so ago myself just to try it - - worked for me).
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Ok really that was pretty easy and not bad once I got everything lined up, did it in maybe 30 minutes or less. I'm in Pie with root now and TWRP recovery. Thank you for the help!
Two points:
1) after flashing TWRP, I got some issues when wiping, I was able to flash the VS996 ROM but kept seeing some red "twrp can't mount system" or something like this. It would be a hassle but do I need to go back and reformat/reflash? or do it dirty at least?
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You're welcome!
See points "f" and "g" of the screenshot. When you were installing TWRP I think you missed the "format data" part... And/or possibly the "reboot recovery" step immediately after.
If you were reading in an app (XDA or Tapatalk) instead of web browser, it's possible that section was truncated and you didn't see it.
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You're welcome!
See points "f" and "g" of the screenshot. When you were installing TWRP I think you missed the "format data" part... And/or possibly the "reboot recovery" step immediately after.
If you were reading in an app (XDA or Tapatalk) instead of web browser, it's possible that section was truncated and you didn't see it.
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hmmm
it's possible.. ..i definitely gave formatting a shot (hence the red errors.) and believe I rebooted to recovery.
Where I'm at now, OS booting/operating flawless (bloat aside) and root verified, can boot back into TWRP no problem...
recommended course of action?
water- said:
hmmm
it's possible.. ..i definitely gave formatting a shot (hence the red errors.) and believe I rebooted to recovery.
Where I'm at now, OS booting/operating flawless (bloat aside) and root verified, can boot back into TWRP no problem...
recommended course of action?
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Sorry, I'm in another hemisphere for several weeks on leave of absence for family matters. Didn't see this until now. Hope you got it worked out.
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Sorry, I'm in another hemisphere for several weeks on leave of absence for family matters. Didn't see this until now. Hope you got it worked out.
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Not a problem at all! Maybe you mistook this post for another, as you'd fairly promptly replied to me through here over the last two weeks! much to my appreciation.
Basically I'm saying when I was doing some of the wipe functions in TWRP before flashing the new OS, and while flashing it, I saw some red mount system error messages.
However my phone is fully functional, I can reboot into TWRP recovery, I'm not noticing any functional issues with it right now.
Can I ignore because functional phone and recovery access = functioning fully! or is there some check I should do or whatnot. I mean I could clear data and start over again but It's been a week+ of customizing and getting it how I like it, kind of a hassle if it's not needed/necessary.
Thanks
water- said:
Not a problem at all! Maybe you mistook this post for another, as you'd fairly promptly replied to me through here over the last two weeks! much to my appreciation.
Basically I'm saying when I was doing some of the wipe functions in TWRP before flashing the new OS, and while flashing it, I saw some red mount system error messages.
However my phone is fully functional, I can reboot into TWRP recovery, I'm not noticing any functional issues with it right now.
Can I ignore because functional phone and recovery access = functioning fully! or is there some check I should do or whatnot. I mean I could clear data and start over again but It's been a week+ of customizing and getting it how I like it, kind of a hassle if it's not needed/necessary.
Thanks
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Do you have encryption on? TWRP will show a mount error upon start, and prior to the passcode being entered.

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