I know I can download new apps and make them the default but what I am wondering is if I could completely delete some of the stock/bundled apps that come with the phone with different versions.
For example, instead of Huawei's Contacts or Dialer or SMS applications, I want to use the Google provided ones (assuming they are compatible)
[Google Play URL]/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.dialer
[Google Play URL]/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.contacts
[Google Play URL]/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging
Is this do-able? If so, how?
I am using the US version of Honor 8 that has been unlocked and rooted and running Android 6.0, if that matters.
YaddaSwamy said:
I know I can download new apps and make them the default but what I am wondering is if I could completely delete some of the stock/bundled apps that come with the phone with different versions.
For example, instead of Huawei's Contacts or Dialer or SMS applications, I want to use the Google provided ones (assuming they are compatible)
[Google Play URL]/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.dialer
[Google Play URL]/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.contacts
[Google Play URL]/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging
Is this do-able? If so, how?
I am using the US version of Honor 8 that has been unlocked and rooted and running Android 6.0, if that matters.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
U can for some apps. This is there in EMUI 5.0. I'm not really sure about EMUI 4 becoz I updated to EMUI 5.0 the day I got my phone.
Good luck!
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
You need to be rooted to delete system apps and replace them with ones you download.
SolarisSixth said:
You need to be rooted to delete system apps and replace them with ones you download.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have any instructions on how to do so? Or can you point me to where I can find them?
My phone is rooted, so if I can do it, I would love to.
ayush rao said:
U can for some apps. This is there in EMUI 5.0. I'm not really sure about EMUI 4 becoz I updated to EMUI 5.0 the day I got my phone.
Good luck!
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is something similar in EMUI 4 as well but all that does is make a new app the default. It doesn't get rid of the bundled apps from the system.
What I want to do is get rid of them completely from the system, so that there are no traces of them.
YaddaSwamy said:
I know I can download new apps and make them the default but what I am wondering is if I could completely delete some of the stock/bundled apps that come with the phone with different versions. Is this do-able? If so, how?
I am using the US version of Honor 8 that has been unlocked and rooted and running Android 6.0, if that matters
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Install Magisk 11.1 from your custom recovery (11.1 is the only one that works right now).
Flash the linked zip from your custom recovery
This is a Magisk module I created to replace the Dialer, Messages, Calendar, and Contacts with the Google versions. It also replaces the stock Gallery with QuickPic. Like any other Magisk module, if you want to go back to stock, just disable the module and reboot.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0zE1Kk8sIB6LU55Rm5POF9pV1U
Telperion said:
Install Magisk 11.1 from your custom recovery (11.1 is the only one that works right now).
Flash the linked zip from your custom recovery
This is a Magisk module I created to replace the Dialer, Messages, Calendar, and Contacts with the Google versions. It also replaces the stock Gallery with QuickPic. Like any other Magisk module, if you want to go back to stock, just disable the module and reboot.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0zE1Kk8sIB6LU55Rm5POF9pV1U
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome! This is exactly what I was looking for. :good:
I don't know much about Magisk but is this compatible with any version of Honor 8? Or is limited to specific models? I have the US version (FRD-L04 running Android 6.0).
Also how easy is to modify this? For example, instead of using QuickPic, I would like to use Google Photos. I would also like to replace the Calculator, Clock, Email apps with the Google versions. Is that (easily) do-able?
YaddaSwamy said:
Awesome! This is exactly what I was looking for. :good:
I don't know much about Magisk but is this compatible with any version of Honor 8? Or is limited to specific models? I have the US version (FRD-L04 running Android 6.0).
Also how easy is to modify this? For example, instead of using QuickPic, I would like to use Google Photos. I would also like to replace the Calculator, Clock, Email apps with the Google versions. Is that (easily) do-able?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To answer your question, I'll give a brief answer on what Magisk does. Magisk stores all the mods to /system/ in a disk image on the /data/ partition. It injects itself early in the boot process to mount the Magisk image and mount/symlink the mods over top of your /system/ partition. This allows the end user to effectively modify /system/, without actually modifying /system/ -- the actual underlying stock files are untouched.
Conceptually this mod is compatible with all Honor 8 models -- at worst, it will add the Google versions in addition to the stock versions. In my zip I mount the new versions over top of the Huawei stock apps which is what "replaces" them.
It's pretty easily do-able to mod the zip. Just follow the instructions in config.sh and you should be good to go. Install App Inspector from the Play Store to find the install directory of the system apps you want to replace -- either in /system/app/ or /system/priv-app/ and note what they're named. From there, just drop the APK's you want into the proper folder in the zip, update the REPLACE directories as needed in the config, and then load it into Magisk. If a stock app you're replacing has library folders inside the app directory, you have to explicitly name that folder in config.sh so that it mounts over the entire folder instead of a merge-mount.
You may not be able to replace the stock Email client though since I think that will break the email intent service. But worst case scenario, just toggle your module off and keep editing it until it works the way you want. In the case of system apps that aren't tightly integrated, like the Calculator, I'd recommend just mounting a blank folder over top of the system app (essentially disabling it) and then installing your preferred calculator from the Play Store (RealCalc is what I use).
YaddaSwamy said:
There is something similar in EMUI 4 as well but all that does is make a new app the default. It doesn't get rid of the bundled apps from the system.
What I want to do is get rid of them completely from the system, so that there are no traces of them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Aren't u rooted? Then just install titanium backup and uninstall the system apps.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
ayush rao said:
Aren't u rooted? Then just install titanium backup and uninstall the system apps.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kind of new to the rooting/tweaking scene, so I wasn't aware I had other options. I went through most of the threads in the Honor 8 forum and there weren't a lot of mentions of how to uninstall the system apps. That's what led me to ask the question in the first place.
Titanium Backup looks cool. What would the benefit be between using Titanium Backup vs. Magisk?
YaddaSwamy said:
Kind of new to the rooting/tweaking scene, so I wasn't aware I had other options. I went through most of the threads in the Honor 8 forum and there weren't a lot of mentions of how to uninstall the system apps. That's what led me to ask the question in the first place.
Titanium Backup looks cool. What would the benefit be between using Titanium Backup vs. Magisk?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See titanium backup and Magisk r 2 completely different things.
So using Magisk u can use a module which can help u but if u want to edit it it gets complex. Magisk is like SuperSU on steroids. So it's main function is to provide root without modifying system so that Safetynet is bypassed. It also provides system-less modules to get more functionality.
Titanium backup is an app which can perform various functions with root access. Like backing up apps and their data or uninstalling system ones or moving apps to the SD card etc.
But if all u want is to uninstall system apps and if u already have SuperSU then just install this app: https://goo.gl/hK4n5H
It will simply uninstall the applications u select. Also once u uninstall the apps reboot ur phone.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
ayush rao said:
See titanium backup and Magisk r 2 completely different things.
So using Magisk u can use a module which can help u but if u want to edit it it gets complex. Magisk is like SuperSU on steroids. So it's main function is to provide root without modifying system so that Safetynet is bypassed. It also provides system-less modules to get more functionality.
Titanium backup is an app which can perform various functions with root access. Like backing up apps and their data or uninstalling system ones or moving apps to the SD card etc.
But if all u want is to uninstall system apps and if u already have SuperSU then just install this app: https://goo.gl/hK4n5H
It will simply uninstall the applications u select. Also once u uninstall the apps reboot ur phone.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome. Thanks for the info! This is the first time I've looked at rooting/tweaking my phone, so I am learning a lot in a short time. :good:
Anyways, my intent is to have as close to a stock ROM as possible and until the custom ROMs stabilize, I thought I could get rid of the stock apps (such as Clock, Contacts, Dialer, etc.) and replace them with the Google version from the Play Store. Secondly, I also wanted to get rid of the unnecessary Google stuff and flash OpenGApps just to have the bare minimum.
For the first, @Telperion gave a Magisk module that he had written for himself to do exactly that but based on what you described, it sounds like I could just install Titanium Backup and uninstall those apps myself. That might be easier to do.
For the second part, there was a script @ganeshbiyer wrote to uninstall all the Google apps (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho...-apps-list-t3521225/post71093292#post71093292) but I couldn't get it to work. But if I understand you correctly, I should be able to do that with Titanium Backup as well.
YaddaSwamy said:
Awesome. Thanks for the info! This is the first time I've looked at rooting/tweaking my phone, so I am learning a lot in a short time. :good:
Anyways, my intent is to have as close to a stock ROM as possible and until the custom ROMs stabilize, I thought I could get rid of the stock apps (such as Clock, Contacts, Dialer, etc.) and replace them with the Google version from the Play Store. Secondly, I also wanted to get rid of the unnecessary Google stuff and flash OpenGApps just to have the bare minimum.
For the first, @Telperion gave a Magisk module that he had written for himself to do exactly that but based on what you described, it sounds like I could just install Titanium Backup and uninstall those apps myself. That might be easier to do.
For the second part, there was a script @ganeshbiyer wrote to uninstall all the Google apps (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho...apps-list-t3521225/post71093292#post71093292) but I couldn't get it to work. But if I understand you correctly, I should be able to do that with Titanium Backup as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup all can be done with Titanium Backup.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
TB fully removes/replaces the apps -- this might be desirable, but might not be. It's hard to go back and forth between the two once you uninstall.
Magisk mounts over top of the old ones so you get all the benefit without any actual changes to /system/ -- this is more flexible and more desirable for some users.
Personally, I think Magisk and other systemless mods are the future of custom tweaks so I'd suggest that if you think you'll be a tinkerer, learn Magisk modules and do it that way. Ultimately though it's preference.
Telperion said:
Install Magisk 11.1 from your custom recovery (11.1 is the only one that works right now).
Flash the linked zip from your custom recovery
This is a Magisk module I created to replace the Dialer, Messages, Calendar, and Contacts with the Google versions. It also replaces the stock Gallery with QuickPic. Like any other Magisk module, if you want to go back to stock, just disable the module and reboot.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0zE1Kk8sIB6LU55Rm5POF9pV1U
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey @Telperion,
I ran this module and it seemed to work OK for the most part. The Dialer, Messages, Calendar and Contacts all updated properly. But QuickPic doesn't seem to work though. I see that it's installed but when I try to open the app, it just closes and takes me back to the home screen. Any ideas on what might have happened?
YaddaSwamy said:
Hey @Telperion,
I ran this module and it seemed to work OK for the most part. The Dialer, Messages, Calendar and Contacts all updated properly. But QuickPic doesn't seem to work though. I see that it's installed but when I try to open the app, it just closes and takes me back to the home screen. Any ideas on what might have happened?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Strange, that happened to me in the first version of my zip, I set it as a merge-mod and for some reason the existing libraries in the /Gallery2/ folder cause QuickPic to crash. When I set it to 'overwrite' /system/priv-app/Gallery2 which made the libraries disappear, then QuickPic launched normally.
Do you have QuickPic currently installed from the Play Store? If so, uninstall first.
Update: Looked over the zip, it looks good. Try downloading and flashing the mod again, perhaps from Recovery this time (if you added from UI the first go-round). Let me know how that goes.
Telperion said:
Strange, that happened to me in the first version of my zip, I set it as a merge-mod and for some reason the existing libraries in the /Gallery2/ folder cause QuickPic to crash. When I set it to 'overwrite' /system/priv-app/Gallery2 which made the libraries disappear, then QuickPic launched normally.
Do you have QuickPic currently installed from the Play Store? If so, uninstall first.
Update: Looked over the zip, it looks good. Try downloading and flashing the mod again, perhaps from Recovery this time (if you added from UI the first go-round). Let me know how that goes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I don't have QuickPic installed from the store. I ran the update on the stock device, before I even set up by Google account on it. And I did flash it from TWRP recovery, so I don't believe that is the issue either. But I'll try again and let you know if it works.
Related
Hi guys. New to the fourm. I recently rooted my Kindle Fire HDX 7.9 (Thor I believe?). It's on 4.5.3 and I've been reading about ROMS? I'm guessing they're to make the tablet act like another OS? If so how do I download and install them?
Thanks in advance
So, a ROM is a custom build of the os. Some, like MIUI are to make the android feel more like an iPad, but most give the user more control and actually take the manufacturer's customizations away giving you more of a pure android experience.
Right now, you cannot run a rom on your os, but root it, and block ota because ggow is working on a rom for the newer os.
lekofraggle said:
So, a ROM is a custom build of the os. Some, like MIUI are to make the android feel more like an iPad, but most give the user more control and actually take the manufacturer's customizations away giving you more of a pure android experience.
Right now, you cannot run a rom on your os, but root it, and block ota because ggow is working on a rom for the newer os.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you! I've already got it blocked I believe, I followed a tutorial which stopped them. Just another thing, I see people posting pics of their setup with launchers etc, but whenever I use a Launcher, my wallpaper just stays black. Is that due to it being "kindle" still?
You are welcome. As for the launcher, yes and no, Amazon did not include some of the files needed to set wallpapers with their build of the os. If you are rooted, the way to get wallpapers is to install the xposed framework, and find a module called hdxposed. Be careful with the exposed framework as some of the modules can permanently mess up your system. But, hdxposed is safe and will enable wallpapers. The other annoyance with an alternate launcher is the popup asking which launcher to use. To get around that, dissable all or a portion of amazon's launcher called otter.
lekofraggle said:
You are welcome. As for the launcher, yes and no, Amazon did not include some of the files needed to set wallpapers with their build of the os. If you are rooted, the way to get wallpapers is to install the xposed framework, and find a module called hdxposed. Be careful with the exposed framework as some of the modules can permanently mess up your system. But, hdxposed is safe and will enable wallpapers. The other annoyance with an alternate launcher is the popup asking which launcher to use. To get around that, dissable all or a portion of amazon's launcher called otter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there a tut or anything to install it or is it like an apk etc?
Yes, and yes. What the framework is is a way for newer versions of android to install or modify pieces of a rom without rewriting the whole rom. Google it and you will find the xda thread with the installer apk. Then, search for hdxposed which has no settings, you just check the box.
When you find the apk for the xposed framework installer, you need to install it (it is a normal apk), then open it and install the framework. You must select the normal way as you do not have a typical recovery. That is the only risk if you do not install any other modules besides hdxposed.
lekofraggle said:
Yes, and yes. What the framework is is a way for newer versions of android to install or modify pieces of a rom without rewriting the whole rom. Google it and you will find the xda thread with the installer apk. Then, search for hdxposed which has no settings, you just check the box.
When you find the apk for the xposed framework installer, you need to install it (it is a normal apk), then open it and install the framework. You must select the normal way as you do not have a typical recovery. That is the only risk if you do not install any other modules besides hdxposed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you very much!! And when I install all of that, I can then add wallpapers via my launcher or do I have to do it via another method?
I guess it depends on the launcher. In theory, yes, but for some people the launcher wallpaper mechanism is still buggy. I use Nova, and I use an app (image2wallpaper) because if I do not, Nova overzooms my pics.
LIST IS NOT COMPLETE YET!
Am still working on next apps which can be uninstalled without any problems.
Hello guys,
here is list of bloatware apps, that can be safely removed or freeze.
This apps can be deleted:
Some apk files of the list below can find in folder -> /cust/preinstalled/public/app/
Facebook
Twitter
Shazam
Booking.com Hotels
News Republic
Opera
Instagram
TripAdvisor
HiGame
Asphalt Nitro
100% Free Games
Dragon Mania
Puzzle Pets
Spider-Man Ultimate Power
Top Games
Scrat-ventures
Google+
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Games
Google Disk
Google Photos
Gmail
Compass
E-Mail
Hangouts
Huawei Swype
Huawei Backup
Huawei File manager
Huawei Notepad
Freeze:
(because you need it maybe later )
TalkBack (can be delete)
HiVoice
Huawei Health
Weather
Where you can find other apk files?
/system/priv-app/
/system/delapp/
/cust/preinstalled/public/app/
Is necessary ROOT? Yes and no. For many operation is ROOT necessary, but when you need only uninstall specific application you can use for this operation app called "Debloater by Gatesjunior" (can be found here). If you have ROOT, u can use Titanium Backup, System app remover or one of the many other apps on Google Play. If you have experience with root folder, so can delete APK files from folders above.
Use of this list or material is, at all times, "at your own risk." I am not responsible for any damages or losses personal data like database, files etc....
*** reserved ***
This is what i don't used and have been delete..
Its depend on what you guys need actually
Mertak said:
LIST IS NOT COMPLETE YET!
Am still working on next apps which can be uninstalled without any problems.
Hello guys,
here is list of bloatware apps, that can be safely removed or freeze.
This apps can be deleted:
Some apk files of the list below can find in folder -> /cust/preinstalled/public/app/
Facebook
Twitter
Shazam
Booking.com Hotels
News Republic
Opera
Instagram
TripAdvisor
HiGame
Asphalt Nitro
100% Free Games
Dragon Mania
Puzzle Pets
Spider-Man Ultimate Power
Top Games
Scrat-ventures
Google+
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Games
Google Disk
Gmail
Compass
E-Mail
Hangouts
Freeze:
(because you need it maybe later )
TalkBack
HiVoice
Huawei Health
Weather
Where you can find other apk files?
/system/priv-app/
/system/delapp/
/cust/preinstalled/public/app/
Is necessary ROOT? Yes and no. For many operation is ROOT necessary, but when you need only uninstall specific application you can use for this operation app called "Debloater by Gatesjunior" (can be found here). If you have ROOT, u can use Titanium Backup, System app remover or one of the many other apps on Google Play. If you have experience with root folder, so can delete APK files from folders above.
Use of this list or material is, at all times, "at your own risk." I am not responsible for any damages or losses personal data like database, files etc....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can try the debloat script available here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x/development/script-stock-rom-debloat-kiw-l24-usa-t3307924
Try rebuilding it for your phone ..
@ gopinaidu77
This looks good Thx
Maybe i can try make the script for better experience
The Huawei apps should probably be freezed instead of uninstalled stuff can stop working or you may need it in the future
I know it But many apps not necessary, so can be uninstalled without any problems (Notepad, Swype keyboard, file manager and many others). If I find some trouble after uninstall apk, recover this file and use freeze. List above i have tested, so is safe.
And every user can use own method for cleaning the phone. For all test is better make nand backup or backup APK files
Mertak said:
@ gopinaidu77
This looks good Thx
Maybe i can try make the script for better experience
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can PM me for any assistance
---------- Post added at 12:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 PM ----------
jkccl9 said:
The Huawei apps should probably be freezed instead of uninstalled stuff can stop working or you may need it in the future
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No , there were certain apps which you never use , or use once or twice in the whole month.
U can uninstall them . But there is a need of basic apps as said earlier . the main cause of root requirement is To remove bloatware . every Android owner roots to just remove bloat and later thinks about costumisation
---------- Post added at 12:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:33 PM ----------
Mertak said:
I know it But many apps not necessary, so can be uninstalled without any problems (Notepad, Swype keyboard, file manager and many others). If I find some trouble after uninstall apk, recover this file and use freeze. List above i have tested, so is safe.
And every user can use own method for cleaning the phone. For all test is better make nand backup or backup APK files
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As said , swype keyboard consumes 250+ MB RAM in the background .it is available in cust folder and no one uses it besides Google keyboard .
Remove GApps completly (for rooted phones)
I am attaching 2 scripts for Marshmallow and Nougat.
Flash using TWRP recovery. This will remove the pre-installed google apps completly.
Flash this before updating the apps from Play Store.
If you have already updated the apps, after flashing the script, you can still manually uninstall the updates.
You can then flash OpenGapps or MicroG
This is just gapps, right? Great for when I eventually root my Honor 8.
Any solution for Huawei apps other than doing it manually?
ganeshbiyer said:
I am attaching 2 scripts for Marshmallow and Nougat.
Flash using TWRP recovery. This will remove the pre-installed google apps completly.
Flash this before updating the apps from Play Store.
If you have already updated the apps, after flashing the script, you can still manually uninstall the updates.
You can then flash OpenGapps or MicroG
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey,
I flashed the script to remove the pre-installed GApps through TWRP on my Honor 8 (US version) but it doesn't look like it worked. All the apps still show up as they were during the initial setup of the phone.
I ran the script right after I rooted and installed TWRP and Xposed, so I didn't setup/use the Play Store or download any updates.
Any ideas on what the issue might be?
When I try to install an app it says app not installed. I have tried signing the app, changing the version number and can't get it to work. I have tried installing apks I have downloaded and patched apks from lucky patcher and nothing works. So is there something that doesn't allow the phone to install modified apps?
I can't install samsung keyboard apk on my samsung galaxy s9+
Are you trying to install a new version of an apk that's already on your phone? If so, can you uninstall the older version first?
it is Android 8.0 security features. Google removed install unknown source. You need to give specific permission to file browsers or apps that does the install - for example, if you have app, copy to your phone, and open Samsung File, and click to install.
jazzespresso said:
it is Android 8.0 security features. Google removed install unknown source. You need to give specific permission to file browsers or apps that does the install - for example, if you have app, copy to your phone, and open Samsung File, and click to install.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I did that to allow installs from Samsung file browser and lucky patcher but still not installing. It let's me push the install button and starts the process then says app not installed. I made sure that the previous version is not installed and reset the phone but still not working
Yeah I have allowed installs from the apps I am using to try to install and there isn't a previous version on the phone I made sure to uninstall the app and restart the phone after and still not allowing the install. It starts the install then says app not installed
Echo692 said:
Yeah I have allowed installs from the apps I am using to try to install and there isn't a previous version on the phone I made sure to uninstall the app and restart the phone after and still not allowing the install. It starts the install then says app not installed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
possibly version of the app (arm/arm64) you are trying...
jazzespresso said:
possibly version of the app (arm/arm64) you are trying...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How would I check which it is or change it if need be?
Echo692 said:
How would I check which it is or change it if need be?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the app you trying to install, unmodified one, go apkmirror.com and search for it, it should list different version, some apps has arm and arm64 version, download it to your phone, and install it.
your s9/s9+ are arm64
jazzespresso said:
the app you trying to install, unmodified one, go apkmirror.com and search for it, it should list different version, some apps has arm and arm64 version, download it to your phone, and install it.
your s9/s9+ are arm64
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok will try thank you
Hi everybody
The same error (app not installed) occurs when i try to install live message apk or another samsung app, like keyboard, i checked with another files and doenst work
View attachment 4488914
x-geo said:
Hi everybody
The same error (app not installed) occurs when i try to install live message apk or another samsung app, like keyboard, i checked with another files and doenst work
View attachment 4488914
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Emm nobody?
Samsung blocked sideloading most of it's system apps. Nothing you can really do about it.
Replace app with tutuapp
Your Android application may not be suitable for them. What you need to do now is:
Try updating Android, otherwise you go to the store by reinstalling your device, but this is very time consuming and costly. You can also use tutuapp android (visit tutuappplus.net to download) this free app store that helps me use great apps for Android.
I recently upgraded from an Android 7 phone (Moto G5) to an Android 9 phone (Moto G7). I like to back up all of my apps that I plan on using in the future, using a backup app like ML Manager, and installing them locally with a file browser, like FX. On my new phone, there are some APK backups that I can't install from a file browser; even if I actually download them though the Google Play Store, back them up, uninstall them, and then try to install that backup on the same phone, it won't work. Not every app does this, and at first, I thought it was only paid apps that were giving me problems, so I chalked it up to DRM, but a bunch of free apps won't work, either.
I've tried alternate methods of installation, too, like using a terminal emulator (see the screenshot, using the app Manual Camera as an example), and ADB on a PC, which results in an INSTALL_FAILED_VERIFICATION_FAILURE error. I've searched for this error and followed directions, like disabling Play Protect (which I never enabled on this phone, anyway), but nothing works. Is this just how Android is now? Did something change so that it's harder to install backups? I tried all of this on my wife's phone, too, which also runs Android 9, and I got the same errors. Any help would be appreciated, because I'm out of ideas. Thanks in advance!
pedrovay2003 said:
I recently upgraded from an Android 7 phone (Moto G5) to an Android 9 phone (Moto G7). I like to back up all of my apps that I plan on using in the future, using a backup app like ML Manager, and installing them locally with a file browser, like FX. On my new phone, there are some APK backups that I can't install from a file browser; even if I actually download them though the Google Play Store, back them up, uninstall them, and then try to install that backup on the same phone, it won't work. Not every app does this, and at first, I thought it was only paid apps that were giving me problems, so I chalked it up to DRM, but a bunch of free apps won't work, either.
I've tried alternate methods of installation, too, like using a terminal emulator (see the screenshot, using the app Manual Camera as an example), and ADB on a PC, which results in an INSTALL_FAILED_VERIFICATION_FAILURE error. I've searched for this error and followed directions, like disabling Play Protect (which I never enabled on this phone, anyway), but nothing works. Is this just how Android is now? Did something change so that it's harder to install backups? I tried all of this on my wife's phone, too, which also runs Android 9, and I got the same errors. Any help would be appreciated, because I'm out of ideas. Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some apps are different for noghat and pie Android
So there is no grantee that you can install all APK that you backed up on noghat for pie
Download them from Google
It should completely work
Make sure that you have free space on internal storage and when you wanna download them make sure that download arm/arm64 version
amirizad_7436 said:
Some apps are different for noghat and pie Android
So there is no grantee that you can install all APK that you backed up on noghat for pie
Download them from Google
It should completely work
Make sure that you have free space on internal storage and when you wanna download them make sure that download arm/arm64 version
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, downloading from the Play Store definitely works, I'm just curious as to why backing up an app downloaded from the Play Store won't install from the APK *on the exact same device.* I'm a stickler for keeping local backups of everything, but I'm more curious than anything at this point.
pedrovay2003 said:
Yeah, downloading from the Play Store definitely works, I'm just curious as to why backing up an app downloaded from the Play Store won't install from the APK *on the exact same device.* I'm a stickler for keeping local backups of everything, but I'm more curious than anything at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well there is a another reason
That is some app install with APK
And other one install with APKS
which you should install them with SAI and have two or three file to install (even more)
And when you backup from apks apps it doesn't backup all files to install it again
But at play store it install automatically
amirizad_7436 said:
Well there is a another reason
That is some app install with APK
And other one install with APKS
which you should install them with SAI and have two or three file to install (even more)
And when you backup from apks apps it doesn't backup all files to install it again
But at play store it install automatically
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Holy crap, dude, I had NO idea that split APKs were a thing. I downloaded Split APK Installer from the Play Store, and I can make and restore local backups again. Thank you so much for the info, it was exactly what I needed!
pedrovay2003 said:
Holy crap, dude, I had NO idea that split APKs were a thing. I downloaded Split APK Installer from the Play Store, and I can make and restore local backups again. Thank you so much for the info, it was exactly what I needed!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Happy that it helped
Youtube version is 17.17.37
My understanding is that this is the version included in Android 13 factory image for P6. Is it possible to downgrade to an earlier version? So far I am experiencing failed installs using earlier .apks. I assume this is because it was an app included in the factory image? IS there a workaround?
I am rooted and stock, FWIW
I used magisk module "debloater" to uninstall apps like YouTube.
After, you should be able to install a lower version.
[MODULE][Terminal] Debloater v17.3.2 - Debloat Systemlessly!
[TERMINAL] DEBLOATER Debloat your phone Systemlessly! Debloating can sometimes be device specific. OEM apps can sometimes be a trash to a user but not to the other. So I decided to make a module to Customize the uninstallation of a system app...
forum.xda-developers.com
snake218 said:
I used magisk module "debloater" to uninstall apps like YouTube.
After, you should be able to install a lower version.
[MODULE][Terminal] Debloater v17.3.2 - Debloat Systemlessly!
[TERMINAL] DEBLOATER Debloat your phone Systemlessly! Debloating can sometimes be device specific. OEM apps can sometimes be a trash to a user but not to the other. So I decided to make a module to Customize the uninstallation of a system app...
forum.xda-developers.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
interesting. I'll look into it
deusfaux said:
Youtube version is 17.17.37
My understanding is that this is the version included in Android 13 factory image for P6. Is it possible to downgrade to an earlier version? So far I am experiencing failed installs using earlier .apks. I assume this is because it was an app included in the factory image? IS there a workaround?
I am rooted and stock, FWIW
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have to force YouTube to a user app instead of a system app.
Then you can uninstall the updated (installed) version.
Rooted with Magisk you can use a module to kick YouTube to a user app.
I made a module awhile back to do just this.
Replace System YouTube - [GitHub] - Link
Not sure if the module will work as is with a13.
You might need to adjust it a bit to work with a13.
Cheers.
Edit:
PS.
Just checked.
Seems everything is still the same on a13.
So I did a quick test on my Pixel 5a, no issues.
snake218 said:
I used magisk module "debloater" to uninstall apps like YouTube.
After, you should be able to install a lower version.
[MODULE][Terminal] Debloater v17.3.2 - Debloat Systemlessly!
[TERMINAL] DEBLOATER Debloat your phone Systemlessly! Debloating can sometimes be device specific. OEM apps can sometimes be a trash to a user but not to the other. So I decided to make a module to Customize the uninstallation of a system app...
forum.xda-developers.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How did you manage to install this? There's no recovery in pixel 6, do you have a tut ot something? Thanks
deleted
ipdev said:
You have to force YouTube to a user app instead of a system app.
Then you can uninstall the updated (installed) version.
Rooted with Magisk you can use a module to kick YouTube to a user app.
I made a module awhile back to do just this.
Replace System YouTube - [GitHub] - Link
Not sure if the module will work as is with a13.
You might need to adjust it a bit to work with a13.
Cheers.
Edit:
PS.
Just checked.
Seems everything is still the same on a13.
So I did a quick test on my Pixel 5a, no issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
will this cause issues with next OTA update? would I have to reverse the process in any way before taking it? disable or remove the module?
also is there a version for YouTube Music?
ipdev said:
You have to force YouTube to a user app instead of a system app.
Then you can uninstall the updated (installed) version.
Rooted with Magisk you can use a module to kick YouTube to a user app.
I made a module awhile back to do just this.
Replace System YouTube - [GitHub] - Link
Not sure if the module will work as is with a13.
You might need to adjust it a bit to work with a13.
Cheers.
Edit:
PS.
Just checked.
Seems everything is still the same on a13.
So I did a quick test on my Pixel 5a, no issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi I'm trying to solve this problem on pixel 7 pro. i'm not sure I understand what this module does? you mention in this post it kicks it to a user app, but on the github page it says it just overwrites the existing youtube apk with zero bytes?
deusfaux said:
will this cause issues with next OTA update? would I have to reverse the process in any way before taking it? disable or remove the module?
also is there a version for YouTube Music?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apologize for the delay.
I did not intend to ignore your question, it just got lost in my list of replies.
As for OTA updates, it should not affect anything.
I never tested with an OTA update. I download the full version and use fastboot to update.
If you disable the module it will revert back to the newer system version.
The older version that you installed, will be uninstalled.
---
As for a YTMusic version..
I never needed one but, it would be easy to do the same.
Should have time this weekend to look into it.
Cheers.
whatsisnametake2 said:
hi I'm trying to solve this problem on pixel 7 pro. i'm not sure I understand what this module does? you mention in this post it kicks it to a user app, but on the github page it says it just overwrites the existing youtube apk with zero bytes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When an app is included in system (app, priv-app, product, ...).
Newer versions get installed into userdata, regardless if it is an update from PlayStore or manually installed.
Both will be found and the newer version will be loaded.
You can only uninstall the update (userdata) version since system is read-only.
It will revert back to loading the version in system.
By replacing the system app version with zero byte file(s), the system version can not be loaded.
This leaves only the version that is installed in userdata.
It is then treated the same as any other user app.
If you uninstall the version in userdata, it will be gone since there is no system version available to load.
Cheers.
deusfaux said:
<SNIP>
also is there a version for YouTube Music?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ipdev said:
<SNIP>
As for a YTMusic version..
I never needed one but, it would be easy to do the same.
Should have time this weekend to look into it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Replace System YouTube Music - [GitHub] - Link
Cheers.
Nice. Thanks
ipdev said:
Replace System YouTube Music - [GitHub] - Link
Cheers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any chance for a version of this for OOS13? System YouTube Music resides in /my_bigball/app/YTMusic/YTMusic.apk
If you are rooted you can use the “let me downgrade” module
aBikeLife said:
Any chance for a version of this for OOS13? System YouTube Music resides in /my_bigball/app/YTMusic/YTMusic.apk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure off hand but, it should be able to be modified to include yet another OnePlus directory.
I checked on my 7T (Android 12) and it was in
/my_bigball/del-app-pre/YTMusic_del/YTMusic.apk
So it let me just uninstall it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I found a (renewed) 9 Pro a few days ago.
Should be here by the end of next week and I test more then.
Cheers.
ipdev said:
Not sure off hand but, it should be able to be modified to include yet another OnePlus directory.
I checked on my 7T (Android 12) and it was in
/my_bigball/del-app-pre/YTMusic_del/YTMusic.apk
So it let me just uninstall it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I found a (renewed) 9 Pro a few days ago.
Should be here by the end of next week and I test more then.
Cheers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome, thanks!
ipdev said:
Not sure off hand but, it should be able to be modified to include yet another OnePlus directory.
I checked on my 7T (Android 12) and it was in
/my_bigball/del-app-pre/YTMusic_del/YTMusic.apk
So it let me just uninstall it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I found a (renewed) 9 Pro a few days ago.
Should be here by the end of next week and I test more then.
Cheers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FYI, I'm unable to uninstall from /my_bigball/app/YTMusic/YTMusic.apk
ipdev said:
You have to force YouTube to a user app instead of a system app.
Then you can uninstall the updated (installed) version.
Rooted with Magisk you can use a module to kick YouTube to a user app.
I made a module awhile back to do just this.
Replace System YouTube - [GitHub] - Link
Not sure if the module will work as is with a13.
You might need to adjust it a bit to work with a13.
Cheers.
Edit:
PS.
Just checked.
Seems everything is still the same on a13.
So I did a quick test on my Pixel 5a, no issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ipdev said:
You have to force YouTube to a user app instead of a system app.
Then you can uninstall the updated (installed) version.
Rooted with Magisk you can use a module to kick YouTube to a user app.
I made a module awhile back to do just this.
Replace System YouTube - [GitHub] - Link
Not sure if the module will work as is with a13.
You might need to adjust it a bit to work with a13.
Cheers.
Edit:
PS.
Just checked.
Seems everything is still the same on a13.
So I did a quick test on my Pixel 5a, no issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks so much for this, worked on OOS 12 and was able to install vanced