What do you predict in terms of new ROM development, new accessories+features, Cpu performance, competition with other phones of 2018-19.
Basically, how are things going to be in 2019 for RN4?
How long do you think RN4 will survive in your hands?
PS- I will edit my question later to make it precise.
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It will survive as you accept the phone as it is. Please note: its completly DIFFERENT for ANYONE .. I'll buy a new phone every year but havn't to. If your not a very big smartphone user you'll able to use this smartphone as long as Android gots supported e.g. Android 6 won't be supported for developer very long so at some point there wont be any apps for your device but yea, I think it will be still an average phone in 2018 and a low-end phone in 2019
This question is a bit pointless. You ask how the phone will be in 2019. Well the moment any phone is released within a few months, heck a few weeks or less it's already outdated. It whatever you make of it. But on average a smartphone good for two years before software moves forward in term software hardware demands.
But custom firmware will always expand any phone way beyond its lifespan. My backup phone is a moto g first gen. It slow compared to this but it still rock solid thanks to ongoing 3rd party software support
It'll be fine, I'm finding phones from 2 years ago to be fine, so I imagine it will be the same story two years from now.
Plus with the non-replaceable battery by 2019 you'll want a new phone anyway. I know you can buy batteries but taking this thing apart looks like it's a pain.
LG G2 is 4 years old and still holds very great. So I think that RN4 would be fine.
prisoner1969 said:
Plus with the non-replaceable battery by 2019 you'll want a new phone anyway. I know you can buy batteries but taking this thing apart looks like it's a pain.
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Uh, no it isn't. With the right tools the back cover just pops off.
normal life span of smartphone is 2-4yrs dont expect anything
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normal life span of smartphone is 2-4yrs dont expect anything
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A well looked after one with a battery replacement can last longer. I have a heap of older phones that still work fine (Eg. Galaxy S1, Galaxy Note 1, Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Defy, iPhone 4s, Galaxy Mini). They all have had their batteries replaced though, but they're all still being used
3 yrs minimum,
Reasons, stable processor, less heating, large battery which reduces charge cycles by half making the life cycle double to that of devices in the competition. No fast-charging is also a boon for hardware longevity
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Hello everybody.
Two weeks ago I placed an order for a Samsung Galaxy S7 and I decided to retire my LG G2 after 2 ½ years of service. The earpiece and loudspeaker were starting to show signs of age, whoever I was calling would hear themselves due to some echo problems and the battery life was no longer what it once was. But if there was one thing the phone never lacked, it'd be speed. It was very fast and fluid but what else would you expect with a Dorimanx kernel?
I bought the phone in December 2013 and it was a great purchase. I got it at $200-250 cheaper than other flagships at the time (Note 3 and Galaxy S4/HTC 10) and I was very pleased with it and the phone remained one of the best even throughout 2014, where most of the flagship phones were equipped with a slightly overclocked Snapdragon 800. In fact, the G2 hardware didn't start to show signs of age until the 2016 flagships came out.
The software has been a mixed experience. My phone has always had issues with displaying any sort of tables/charts. The screen would simply become unresponsive and I'd have to lock/unlock the phone and spam the home button to get out and that's regardless of ROM/Kernel-combo. After updating to stock Lollipop the signal reception weakened noticably, largely affecting the battery life. For while the G2 had amazing battery life, it required good signal reception - otherwise it would eat through the battery trying to find better signal.
The development and support for this phone has been great and there's no doubt that the development for this phone has lengthened the overall life of my phone and vastly improved my experience with it, so thank you to all of our amazing developers. One of those developers have supported this phone till today (and is still supporting it) and he deserves a huge thank you for making a great phone even better. A donation is coming your way, although it won't reflect a fraction of how much you've improved my experience of using this phone.
I've spent a lot of hours in the G2 forums, I've learnt a lot from a lot of nice members and I have done my best to contribute. It is time to move on.
vPro.
Enjoy the S7 vPro and be sure to post a thread that compares the two phones for others looking to upgrade. :highfive:
I am still holding to g2 by buying a new battery. I think I will jump to a new phone, probably next year. Thanks to g2, I know what phone to choose next time.
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Enjoy the S7 vPro and be sure to post a thread that compares the two phones for others looking to upgrade. :highfive:
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I might do an extensive review later down the road. Right now I'm liking the S7 A LOT. Screen, camera, speed/smoothness and battery life is amazing. I installed Good Lock and a stock Marshmallow theme and the phone feels 90% like stock android, just with more features and just as fast. The only thing this phone is missing is some sort of stereo speakers. If I ever decide to root the phone (and most likely I won't) I could use a stereo speaker mod and that would make an amazing phone even better. Still, the mono speaker at the bottom is far from bad, the media experience is just not as immersive.
I don't know how good the Snapdragon 820 S7 is, but the Exynos S7 is an absolute beast and a worthy replacement if you currently have a G2.
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I am still holding to g2 by buying a new battery. I think I will jump to a new phone, probably next year. Thanks to g2, I know what phone to choose next time.
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Buying a new battery is a great idea. To be honest, new phones nowaday don't offer that much new. They're usually faster, have better screens and cameras and now we have fingerprint scanners. The G2 with a new battery will fare well throughout 2016 and maybe well into 2017, too. Only thing that might be of concern is the security since the phone won't get many updates - if any at all.
Enjoy the S7 dude, my brother has just purchased the Edge version and has fallen in love with it. My upgrade is due soon, although I am personally holding out for a bit to see what the new Nexus phone (or phones) will be. Even after I will be keeping my G2 as an mp3 player
is that when it comes to android, always buy the goddamn flagship.
"OH YES 720p with that processor means this phone will be so smooth and battery life should be great" but here I am a couple months later with a phone that takes 10 seconds to open the recent apps menu. Samsung just does not have the time to regulate and quality control these lower range phones when they've got like 4 flagships to prioritise.
btw, I have 10gb of memory free, play no demanding games and have no more than 20 apps installed. Still a joke.
Note to self, when it comes to android phones, do not try and save money.
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is that when it comes to android, always buy the goddamn flagship.
"OH YES 720p with that processor means this phone will be so smooth and battery life should be great" but here I am a couple months later with a phone that takes 10 seconds to open the recent apps menu. Samsung just does not have the time to regulate and quality control these lower range phones when they've got like 4 flagships to prioritise.
btw, I have 10gb of memory free, play no demanding games and have no more than 20 apps installed. Still a joke.
Note to self, when it comes to android phones, do not try and save money.
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Which version do your have? I have the 850M rooted and it wheels great running KK. 850A running KK is also decent.
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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What mods have you done with this phone?
The best part about this phone is the small size, light weight, and changeable battery. I can tolerate not getting MM for having these features.
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What mods have you done with this phone?
The best part about this phone is the small size, light weight, and changeable battery. I can tolerate not getting MM for having these features.
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victoram said:
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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same feeling here, brother
No complains here (except for the too much expected MM update, which was one reason to choice this model).
More than 20 apps installed (G850F).
Battery drains very fast in mobile data mode (and also heats).
It cost 330€, which I found quite good in price/quality ratio.
Because of the fast evolution of technology, I never advise to buy immediately the high-end models. The prices on these will fall very fast within few months. The wait is quite compensatory...
(to give a lot of money for a smartphone its almost a steal...)
I look at my friends at university with iphone 5s' they've had for >2 years and they work like they're brand new. Is that the case with android phones? I recently just bought a samsung galaxy s7 and then canceled the order because of my realisation that the price was ridiculous. What I am asking is that if I opted for the s6 now, will the lack of updates (as its older) reduce the life of the phone? Or does it not matter - a new s6 will last just as long as an s7?
I feel that any phone should work decently for atleast 2 years from its release date given that it has decent specs. After 2 years, the device usually starts to slow down. And this slowing down is inevitable.
This slow down happens because of all the software updates your apps gets. As apps introduces new features, it often requires more resources from the device. The weaker the specs are, the harder it is for the phone to keep up with the software updates.
If you only plan to use 2-3 apps on your smartphone and keep it in a condition similar to when you bought it (no root, no custom roms or anything like that), it would perform great. I have seen my parents take very good care of their old phones and they still work great!
So to answer your question, do you need the lastest one?
No, you just need to ask yourself how long do you plan to stick with the phone you buy.
With both s6 and s7 you should be able to use them for 3 years easily from their release date. So with s7 you got about 3 years and s6 you got about 2 years. After that who knows how much resource hungry would the new version of android or apps would be.
In my opinion, you could get OnePlus 3 and that too should last you for around 2.5 - 3 years with ease! That phone has 6 gigs of ram with snapdragon 820 and its half the price of s7 !!
Phones can easily last 3 to 4 years; the battery is going to be the first to go. Like the other poster stated, it's usually app updates and software updates that slow a phone down over time.
If you buy any upper tier phone made in the past 2 years, however, you'll be set for at least 3.
Keep in mind, slowdowns and problems with performance over time really only show when playing really demanding games. If you're just browsing or taking pictures or are on Facebook or Instagram the phone really won't ever be a problem.
But yea, I would highly suggest checking out models on Swappa if you're OK with buying used. I just grabbed a Nexus 6 (2014 release) from there this weekend. Tons of phones are in mint condition at steep discounts.
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I've had the 6p for about A year and a half basically since it came out. Think it's about that time to hang up it's cape this screen burn-in is really annoying me and that outdated processor is starting to show it's age. Would love to hear everyone's opinion on their next phone. I was thinking about the Pixel 2 myself if priced fairly ,or maybe the Note 8 , or the upcoming Essential Phone .
the nexus 6p has taught me how greatly important it is for phones to have a removable battery. I not will pay another $550+ for a smartphone, only to barely get 2 hours of SOT after a year of using it. I really hate planned obsolescence. I am trying to find a high end phone with removable battery other than LG ( bootloop ). But I think it's hard to find one in 2017 and later.
The pixel 2 will not be priced fairly. I would go for the note 8 if money is not an issue or the next oneplus
Yea tell me about it ! Battery life is horrible , buddy of mine at work has a S7 edge that gets double the battery life as my phone
I'm not getting rid of my 6p until i have to. Best phone I've ever had. The only reason people have bad battery life is because your battery is getting old, deal with it, replace it and your good to go again. Just like ANY OTHER sealed phone eventually. Anyone who complains about the processor being outdated as well just wants to justify getting a new phone for no reason IMHO. I haven't found anything yet that will tax my processor enough to have to get something new. Even if my 6p gives up the ghost for good, I'll probably buy another used one to replace it rather than spending insane amounts of money on something new and "improved"
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Yea tell me about it ! Battery life is horrible , buddy of mine at work has a S7 edge that gets double the battery life as my phone
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Give it time, his battery will give out one day to. EVERYTHING has a life span.
I just got an RMA so I'll likely keep it awhile. Depends on my luck of the draw with the replacement. If it sucks I'll grab the Oneplus 5 or note.
I doubt we see removable batteries in any higher end device again. Companies claim design but reality is most of these phones aren't water proof and planned obsolesce especially now that device upgrades really aren't necessary every year is a powerful motivator. Unless of course you got a lemon that shuts off at 30% or gets 2 hours SOT or plain doesn't boot after a year or so. I'm hesitant to buy another nexus / pixel after my 6p and 5x.
It's really hard for me not to get an s8 right now.
probably a pixel 2 or 3 by the time they come out and whether my beloved 6p won't decide to die on me.
Pixel 2 or OnePlus 5
Getting the oneplus 5 once it is released.
Pixel 2 for me .
Looks like I'll be keeping my 6p for a while still. The battery life my not be top notch, but I get 4 to 5 hours of screen on time regularly, which is enough for me, especially when I can charge it for 0-100% in like 1.5 hours. My biggest hold up on an upgrade is I demand stereo front facing speakers, a good camera (which the 6p has when using the modded camera nx app), and a no bull**** as close to stock os as possible. The Pixel ticked all those boxes expect stereo front facing speakers so I passed on it, and it doesn't look like the Pixel 2 will be any different.
Honestly the design, speakers and the price of the pixel killed it for me , that phone looks horrible honestly there's nothing on the market right now that i would wanna pick up except the s8+ and that's pushing it because I only love using stock Android. Boy oh boy if they had an s8+ with stock Android with regular timely updates .... lol in a perfect world.
OnePlus 5 or perhaps Pixel 2. Still happy with my 6P though!
Keeping my fingers crossed on the Pixel 2. I would gladly get a S8 if I could run completely stock Android without root (and with monthly updates). Security is super critical for me for numerous reasons, unrooted for the first time a few months ago, haven't missed it.
That having been said, this week I purchased a $299 Moto G5 Plus (64GB/4GB) for someone, and I'm super impressed with quality and speed. Bluetooth and software is a little wonky, last security update was January, hoping for a ROM update, but since it's Moto G, probably not gonna get many updates. Honestly, if it were a Nexus release, I'd be super happy with it, as the hardware is great.
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Keeping my fingers crossed on the Pixel 2. I would gladly get a S8 if I could run completely stock Android without root (and with monthly updates). Security is super critical for me for numerous reasons, unrooted for the first time a few months ago, haven't missed it.
That having been said, this week I purchased a $299 Moto G5 Plus (64GB/4GB) for someone, and I'm super impressed with quality and speed. Bluetooth and software is a little wonky, last security update was January, hoping for a ROM update, but since it's Moto G, probably not gonna get many updates. Honestly, if it were a Nexus release, I'd be super happy with it, as the hardware is great.
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I picked up a new Moto Z on Verizon for $300 (for my wife).
Great phone if you can tolerate a locked bootloader.
Pixel 2, OnePlus 5 or Essential. Considering all of them
The Essential is out of the question for me. I like to take pictures, and the quality of the pictures I've seen from that phone are not that great of quality.
I'm looking at the OnePlus 5. The samples from them have been a heck of a lot better. I've been checking out the 3T forums to see what kind of roms are offered and its not bad looking at all. I'm going to get the 5 and sell my 6p on Swappa. I just hope it has the horizontal dual camera.
Not the iPlus 5 anymore. The OnePlus 5 with a copycat iPhone 7 style is so sad. And with only a small 3,000mAh battery. Screw that.
I switched to an iPhone 7+ last month and couldn't be more pleased. Tried to hold out until the iPhone 8 came out but the 6P was becoming too awful to be a daily driver for me. Lag lag and more lag whenever it is asked to do anything but the simplest of tasks. Then it heats up and throttles creating even more lag and drains the battery. But the main reason for me abandoning ship was because of my DJI Mavic Pro. Nougat and DJI Go 4 don't mix... I'm still keeping the 6P because it used to be a great phone but somewhere along the line, Google ruined it probably in hopes that we would switch to Pixel. Well I switched alright and probably for good! With iOS, everything just works. Only bad part is there's not a community like XDA Developers. Which is why I'm trolling the forums with my 6P lol.
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I've got a Pixel 6 pre-ordered, using it as my main phone since launch. My experience with random bugs, but especially frustrating Bluetooth devices randomly disappearing or being forgotten, random Bluetooth disconnections and so on have frustrated me beyond belief!
I stopped using Samsung phones back in the Note 2 era as Samsung when on a tangent and lost their marbles, and before my Pixel 6 I was using a Xiaomi Mi 11, which was an excellent hardware, but I could not get on with their buggy mess and poorly implemented dark mode forcing apps and making buttons disappear as consequence. Never again...
Now the Pixel 6 is making me feel the same way, a frustrating half-baked phone which was meant to be exactly the opposite, it should be the flagship Google phone with the latest and most polished software, not this mess.
So I'm considering perhaps moving to a Samsung flagship, but I've no idea if their software will be any better. I'm definitely not going for the Chinese brands anymore, Oneplus lost its way, Xiaomi is a proper mess, Realme and others also not worth considering. Ah, I evne forgot to mention I had an Asus ROG phone once, excellent phone but very slow update cycles, another disappointment.
So what is left for me to try? A Samsung flagship that promises 4 years of updates? The reality is that I'll keep the phone for 2 or 3 years max anyway, but nice that samsnung is finally focusing on providing updates more quickly. Or, go back to an iPhone and forget all this mess, but I'm way more keen on keeping an Android phone due to its flexibility.
Any thoughts guys?
i know how ya feel mephisto.. it was either a samsung A53 or pixel 6a for my budget and the 6a came in £100 cheaper ( argos offer ) so far i have 2 issues . first of all the battery life reminds me of my old galaxy s5 .. lucky to last a full day and I'm not a heavy user either . I've read it settles down after a while once it gets to know your usage patterns , then again I've never really seen that happen in previous phones . And secondly the camera .. yes its good but the jpg compression is way too heavy . I've installed and tuned up bigkakas 8.4 gcam mod and it's pulling out a lot more fine detail than stock . they should give users more options as far as the camera goes.
anyway it still blows the redmi note 11 out of the water so i suppose i shouldn't complain .. but i do
I wonder if I'm alone feeling this disappointed and if there are any good alternatives
It is a result of market expectations (imho). The number of people interested in customizing and tweaking their device is too small to get the attention of the manufacturers. They will target their preferred (ie easiest) audience, and whoever isn't in that audience will have to deal with the results.
i am hugely disappointed in my s6. battery life is poor at best uses 1.5% an hour if i don't touch the device. ( my other 3 phones only use 0.3% an hour, same sim , same service, same place). battery use while on at 5-6% is pretty good.there have been bugs since day one. the camera was advertised as 50mp but software makes it 12mp, that was annoying. and developer support on xda is just ok.
i should have bought the last pixel5