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This morning I restarted my prime and im looking at system tuner pro...
All 4 cores are active and stuck on either 475mhz or 1.2mhz!
I didn't change anything...governer is interactive 102-1.6mhz limit....the cores wont turn off or scale down. It would usually scale down to 102mhz and turn off 2 cores...but they're all online...
FAST is good but it's killing my battery =P
Anyone know whats going on?
Pretty sire this is across the board for the most part. This happened after update to ICS or last update. Ive noticed it also but it scales to other frequencies also. Doesn't seem to effect battery too much. Your best bet if you worried about battery is to throw it in power savings mode in Asus quick settings. But no matter what mode its in, it seems to like to stay near maxed out. Maybe Asus adjusted the frequency timing to speed up things in ICS.
apologies
I'm sorry, I didn't see any other posts about this issue.
Thanks for your input
Yeah, I've had the same problem since the ICS update, but still can't find a solution, so I'm waitng for recovery and back to HC.. And, btw, it's killing my battery - it barely holds a whole day since then..
This seems like a plausible explanation for all the reboots people are seeing. With ICS the processor is kept in a more active state which uncovers wafer defects and heats up the SoC until it goes into protection mode.
Some processors handle the load better than others and it seems the spread is veeeery wide. nVidia is probably supplying Asus with parts from all bins, if they even bother to quality check and rate their parts after coming off the production lines.
I would argue that nVidia's thresholds for what is considered a passable Tegra 3 chip are way too low for real world applications.
remics said:
This seems like a plausible explanation for all the reboots people are seeing. With ICS the processor is kept in a more active state which uncovers wafer defects and heats up the SoC until it goes into protection mode.
Some processors handle the load better than others and it seems the spread is veeeery wide. nVidia is probably supplying Asus with parts from all bins, if they even bother to quality check and rate their parts after coming off the production lines.
I would argue that nVidia's thresholds for what is considered a passable Tegra 3 chip are way too low for real world applications.
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Maybe. I can run overclocked to 1.6Ghz n still be fine no reboots. Like you said, not all chips exactly the same though. Small variances between all chips.
I'm hoping/assuming ASUS is aware of this, but just in case they're not, has anyone brought this to Gary's attention?
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I'm hoping/assuming ASUS is aware of this, but just in case they're not, has anyone brought this to Gary's attention?
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I'm sure they do know already. Probably amped the frequency timing up so ICS can stay as smooth as it is. It may get adjusted in new update we supposed to get any day now. New update "supposedly" fixes alot of issues.
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Just took a look on system tuner, mine still scales down to 102Mhz. Not all 4 cores on all the time. It does like to stay in the higher range though alot. It all depends on what you doing and what you have running in background also.
mine used to scale down to 102mhz as well...and usually with the 3rd and 4th core offline
Odd that it has changed....
Thanks for all the input...im gonna try and see if manually updating to ICS will make any difference
*edit: I put the update file into the system root but TFP won't prompt/recognize the update...guess it won't make a difference....I'll try backing up then doing a factory reset
I'm seeing something a little different. Mine scales all over the place, except it barely ever hits 1300MHz or 1400MHz, even when set on Performance and gaming/benchmarking. For example, right now, mine only show 3 seconds on 1400MHz and 5 seconds on 1300MHz, out of 13 hours uptime.
I think ASUS and Nvidia have some work left to do in getting the Tegra 3 optimized. I'd really rather mine actually use its fastest stock speeds when in Performance mode.
Overclocking?
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Maybe. I can run overclocked to 1.6Ghz n still be fine no reboots. Like you said, not all chips exactly the same though. Small variances between all chips.
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How did you get to overclock? I rooted mine, but had to return it because of problems. However, I couldn't overclock it either.
What's yur secret?
Update: Did a factory reset and all 4 cores are still online 425mhz-1.2 =(
Seems like my i/o speed just got worse and now there's severe lag...
*sigh* - will just wait for unlocked bootloader
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How did you get to overclock? I rooted mine, but had to return it because of problems. However, I couldn't overclock it either.
What's yur secret?
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Where you been? Lol we've overclocked for a good while now. Head over into Android developement section of prime. Then check out the "Vipercontrol" thread. Very easy to install n setup.
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I'm seeing something a little different. Mine scales all over the place, except it barely ever hits 1300MHz or 1400MHz, even when set on Performance and gaming/benchmarking. For example, right now, mine only show 3 seconds on 1400MHz and 5 seconds on 1300MHz, out of 13 hours uptime.
I think ASUS and Nvidia have some work left to do in getting the Tegra 3 optimized. I'd really rather mine actually use its fastest stock speeds when in Performance mode.
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That's how its supposed to be. It doesn't run at top speed full time..lol your battery wouldn't lastlong at all if it did that. It only hit tops speeds when needed. Then it scales back when not needed anymore.
As far as your timing showing only a few seconds at top speed, all that means is you didn't do anything the prime needed top speeds for.
If you want to run at full speeds all the time I have your solution. If you rooted get System tuner app. Then open app up. Go to CPU tweaks. There it shows you what all 4 cores are running a piece in real time. The governor should be on default interactive mode. All you do it put governor on performance mode. Then raise your minimum speed up to the Max. Now your prime will be running at top speeds all the time. Now beware though, expect battery to drain alot faster.
I did that trick with my overclock n can have all 4 cores maxed out to 1.6Ghz at once. Battery drains faster than Asus performance mode though. As far as speeds go though, I can put my prime in stock powersavings mode, lowest power settings, n everything still moves fast n fluid. Same with heavy duty games also. There's nothing out on Android yet to really need overclocking power yet. PRIME handles anything you throw at it in stock settings. OVERCLOCKING is just for kicks really andbto make things that much faster. Not really needed. Overclocking will be better once bootloader unlocked and we get undervolting paired with overclocking. That way we can get great battery life and more power. Nothing wrong with overclocking though. I'd say if you not worried about battery life or gonna eventually be near a powersource, go for it. Android developement section of Prime. Its called VioerControl Mod. Very easy to install n setup. Works great. Everyone rooted should give it a whirl if you looking for more power or want to push the envelope.
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That's how its supposed to be. It doesn't run at top speed full time..lol your battery wouldn't lastlong at all if it did that. It only hit tops speeds when needed. Then it scales back when not needed anymore.
My mistake. I'd forgotten that I'd rebooted since running the benchmarks and gaming, so my CPU Spy values didn't reflect them. I just ran some benchmarks and 1400MHz now shows 18 seconds while 1300MHz now shows 2:08 minutes.
I would still like to see that as running at 1400MHz throughout the benchmarks, so I stand by my statement that some additional tuning is required.
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what Firmware specifically are you guys on????
I just downloaded system tuner... I'm running ICS, and my tablet has been rock solid (not a single reboot).
CPU0 is running around 200-400MHz, and the other 3 cores are offline (although core 1 comes online for a bit now and then.) And, my battery life is excellent.... same or better than it was with HC.
To clarify, those of you who are having reboots, are you all seeing all cores on and maxed out all the time?
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9.4.2.11
Its the latest one available on ICS.
On the contrary...ever since my tfp decided to keep all cores online and minimum 425mhz speed, I haven't had any lockups or reboots.
But my battery life sucks and my benchmark scores are Still horrible.
The disk I/0 speed is horrendous (as stated in the bonnie++ benchmark thread)
Hope for an update soon
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try this for better disk read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455382
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try this for better disk read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455382
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Has this been confirmed to actually work or be better? Were you the one that made that thread with bonnie benchmarks on disk read speeds or something? How much of a difference are the scores after installing the kernel modules in that thread?
Hey guys,
Are there any Galaxy Mega users going back to the Note 2? I went back after using the Mega 6.3 for around 2 weeks and I gotta tell ya, I'm happy I went back.
The Mega feels so slow and laggy, I'm constantly finding myself having to clear the RAM and close all tasks just to speed things up.
Swiping left to right always have a slight lag, opening the app draw has lag, heck even returning via home button is laggy. Exiting Apps like the browser seems to drop the animation of exiting it down to like 20fps.
Everything just feels like it stutters and lags, the phone feels like it's constantly crawling and the "pinch-in" lag is back too.
Don't get me wrong I love this phone, mostly for it size but in no way is it a bad phone. But I am slightly disappointed a phone with a processor that has similar instructions A15 isn't 100% smooth.
I've seen alot of you guy say you have a buttery smooth Mega, I wish my was the same, but it's far from buttery.
All in all, I'm happy I went back to the Galaxy Note 2, it feels so much faster and smoother.
just my few pennies.
P.S - Forgot my username and email address so had to make a new acount, doh!
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Hey guys,
Are there any Galaxy Mega users going back to the Note 2? I went back after using the Mega 6.3 for around 2 weeks and I gotta tenotificationappy I went back.
The Mega feels so slow and laggy, I'm constantly finding myself having to clear the RAM and close all tasks just to speed things up.
Swiping left to right always have a slight lag, opening the app draw has lag, heck even returning via home button is laggy. Exiting Apps like the browser seems to drop the animation of exiting it down to like 20fps.
Everything just feels like it stutters and lags, the phone feels like it's constantly crawling and the "pinch-in" lag is back too.
Don't get me wrong I love this phone, mostly for it size but in no way is it a bad phone. But I am slightly disappointed a phone with a processor that has similar instructions A15 isn't 100% smooth.
I've seen alot of you guy say you have a buttery smooth Mega, I wish my was the same, but it's far from buttery.
All in all, I'm happy I went back to the Galaxy Note 2, it feels so much faster and smoother.
just my few pennies.
P.S - Forgot my username and email address so had to make a new acount, doh!
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I hear you. The only slowness I am experiencing is the android notification bar. But its getting progressively worse. I disabled all animations and it sped the notification for a little but but now it's slow again. The device is very snappy but the ridiculously slow notification bar swipe is unacceptable. I am waiting for the Note 3 now......
sorry to hear you are having poor performance. Again I've only experienced iit when swyping down on the notification bar.
Hmmm I've been playing with my mega a week. I should of put that better ha .
It is a bit laggy n jerky now and again. But for £300 I'm really impressed and it exceeds my needs. Especially with screen size, design and how slim it is.
I'm selling my note 2 on eBay. And staying with the mega 6.3.
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Hmmm I've been playing with my mega a week. I should of put that better ha .
It is a bit laggy n jerky now and again. But for £300 I'm really impressed and it exceeds my needs. Especially with screen size, design and how slim it is.
I'm selling my note 2 on eBay. And staying with the mega 6.3.
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I'm positive that a software update will fix the lags. I feel like Samsung rushed the software for the Mega 6.3 that's why it's not that optimized for the processor.
I own both Note II and Mega 6.3 I9205. The slowdown you mentioned has got something to do with samsung launcher and the rom itself. Update
the ROM to the latest version available. I think that was XXUAMG4 or better yet download the customized one available in this forum (android development). The mega launcher was entirely different from GS4 and Note2. It support landscape mode and the built-in widget resizes accordingly.
I think this was taken from touchwiz tablets. Try to use Nova Launcher instead, then see if you still experience noticeable slowdowns. My mega 6.3 is butter-smooth with Nova launcher. I have never experienced any slowdowns at all, and will never go back to samsung's laggy default laucher. Also try to enable "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer's Section settings. Do not under-estimate power of Snapdragon 400 vs Exynos 4212. It's a hell lot faster in FPU. In fact in most benchmark, its faster than note 2 specially the graphics department. I confirmed this using the latest 3DMark. Dual-core vs quad-core does not make sense anymore. The CPU architecture is what really matters.
Also, the 1.5GB ram is more than enough for daily tablet/phone use. That includes gaming. My Nexus 7 is very fast running JB 4.3 with only 1GB of ram. My Windows 7 Pro netbook, which am using right now, only comes with 1GB of ram but still perform quite decently in multitasking considering that Windows 7 has got more bloatwares in it that Android JB and IOS combined.
I also use Nova Launcher and never had any slowdowns. I find my Mega smoother than my Nexus 7 and my original Note on custom ROM.
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I own both Note II and Mega 6.3 I9205. The slowdown you mentioned has got something to do with samsung launcher and the rom itself. Update
the ROM to the latest version available. I think that was XXUAMG4 or better yet download the customized one available in this forum (android development). The mega launcher was entirely different from GS4 and Note2. It support landscape mode and the built-in widget resizes accordingly.
I think this was taken from touchwiz tablets. Try to use Nova Launcher instead, then see if you still experience noticeable slowdowns. My mega 6.3 is butter-smooth with Nova launcher. I have never experienced any slowdowns at all, and will never go back to samsung's laggy default laucher. Also try to enable "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer's Section settings. Do not under-estimate power of Snapdragon 400 vs Exynos 4212. It's a hell lot faster in FPU. In fact in most benchmark, its faster than note 2 specially the graphics department. I confirmed this using the latest 3DMark. Dual-core vs quad-core does not make sense anymore. The CPU architecture is what really matters.
Also, the 1.5GB ram is more than enough for daily tablet/phone use. That includes gaming. My Nexus 7 is very fast running JB 4.3 with only 1GB of ram. My Windows 7 Pro netbook, which am using right now, only comes with 1GB of ram but still perform quite decently in multitasking considering that Windows 7 has got more bloatwares in it that Android JB and IOS combined.
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Thanks, I'll have to update it then because right now, whether it's the launcher or ROM it's ruining the experience.
I tried Nova Launcher and it was equally as bad if not worse the Touchwiz, it was still jerky and laggy.
And I agree, the benchmarks for the Snapdragon 400 are great and beat the Exynos 4 alot, but for me personally at the moment in terms of everyday use the Note 2's performance is so much better and smooth. I'd really like to keep the Mega, but unless the performance improves dramatically within a new update then I'll be keeping the Note 2. I'll try a custom ROM and the latest update, fingers crossed.
I experienced the slow notification bar and I was running ADW launcher. I disabled animations and it still was slow. I returned my Mega because of this. It was a total deal breaker.
Yes your right it lags sometimes
But thats why I am waiting CM team hopefully or anyone to build AOKP or CM or AOSP
When it reaches the mega it will be awesome
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I have been thinking about going back, but i think i'm gonna sit it out till the Note III gets released.
The Mega has it's slow points now but i trust in samsung fixing some in the upcomming updates.
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I have been thinking about going back, but i think i'm gonna sit it out till the Note III gets released.
The Mega has it's slow points now but i trust in samsung fixing some in the upcomming updates.
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And maybe CM coming over on the big screen ^^
I don't know exactly why some mega 6.3 owners experienced some significant slowdowns.
Maybe because of the ff:
1. Outdated ROM. Try to install the latest available rom even if its not for your country (XXUAMG4).
2. Stock launcher from samsung. Use Nova launcher or any other payware launcher of your choice.
3. Use Seeder program. I may help speed things up.
4. Flash stock kernel after rooting and stop using vcore2 kernel
5. You may have a faulty slow microSD.
6. Some other apps you have installed maybe affecting your otherwise speedy JB 4.2.2
I've tried all previews and everytime I had to go back to M, the rom is slow and my N9 is very hot !
I thought it was the previews, but now I'm on final, and I have the same behavior.
Chrome is also verry verry slow and I have to kill if I wan't to use my tablet for something else.
Do you have this behavior on your tablets ?
No, in my case Android 7 is considerably faster than Android 5 and 6.
I get the same problems, plus some apps just decide to crash, last one to crash was Geekbench 3.
Also games are really laggy.
I flash the factory images with fastboot (erasing/formating everything) and my N9 is better now, but I'm still not convice that Nougat is ready for release.
Using chrome still makes the tablet very hot (and laggy).
It may be a chrome issue.
Funny enough i only really started to notice how slow the N9 actually is after replacing my phone with a OnePlus 3.
(yeah yeah it has a snapdragon 820 and is like 50x faster than the N9 regardless)
Overal though I've been noticing a massive degradation in my tablet's performance. Just 2 tabs in chrome is enough to start lagging it out. (Although I have the say the final Android 7 version seems considerably faster then the last Preview 5)
I'm just going to look look for a new tablet now. Because I doubt the problem is just chrome related. There just aren't many clean stock android tablets which is a real shame. But I am never buying a tablet with only 2gb RAM or a dual core again ever in my life.
Mine is pretty poor, im yet to use an android tab thats any good, can't really say its any worse since nougat but its no better either, way way slower than my phone and always has been, really dissapointed to be honest...
For me its like the Ram or processor just can't cope with even the most simple of tasks, mine's stock really considering rooting it and trying a lightweight rom to see if it improves it...
Same here... over time this device starts to get slow, especially when bringing up pages via google now or with Chrome.
Luckily, for me at least, clearing the cache resolves the slowness every time.
Yes, the Nexus 9 is slow on Nougat. Not as slow as the initial Lollipop release but still. The Nexus 9 performance seems totally inconsistent. At times it is blazing fast for an instant and then it starts stuttering. The slowdowns consistently occur when there are filesystem operations, like upgrading apps in the background.
Probaly because of nvidia soc, my nexus 5 is much faster when browsing etc. My nexus 7 was slow too even though its performance was great in benchmarks for its time
Yes. I like the split screen, often on the web with Evernote open. But, it's so slow.
Time for a custom rom?
Performance is much poorer on Nougat. Also seeing crashed. And when idle for a few hours, Wifi disconnects and doesn't reconnect when woke up.
Yes horrible on N, it gets hot and crashes! I don't love Tegra either. I think they are bad chips.
just picked up this tablet this after cuz this is the only android tab with modern soc.
but it feels laggy when using. especialy when playing games.
The game i play called Mobile Legends,
I used to play with my Moto Z which packaged the same soc as this tab, yet the resolution looks like shyt and very choppy and laggy when playing.
Also touch screen some times stop working when multi touching, e.g walking with left wheel and attacking using right button, then left wheel stucked into one direction until release and touch left wheel again.
is it a rom issue? game issue or i received a defected unit?
freefrank said:
just picked up this tablet this after cuz this is the only android tab with modern soc.
but it feels laggy when using. especialy when playing games.
The game i play called Mobile Legends,
I used to play with my Moto Z which packaged the same soc as this tab, yet the resolution looks like shyt and very choppy and laggy when playing.
Also touch screen some times stop working when multi touching, e.g walking with left wheel and attacking using right button, then left wheel stucked into one direction until release and touch left wheel again.
is it a rom issue? game issue or i received a defected unit?
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I can only compare it with my OnePlus 3T but I feel that probably is a good comparison SD820 vs SD821.
In general I'd say performance is more or less the same with the odd animation stutter on the tab s3.
I don't do games so can't comment there, but its handling 4k h265 HDR content like a breeze and barely dents the battery.
I'll see if I get a chance to download and try the game, will feedback performance.
I think you need to mess with the game launcher feature to get working correctly
no stutter and lag for me so far. Mine just arrived today.
I've had mine since launch day, no issues here.
I've had two now, one Wi-Fi only device which I replaced with a LTE version and for some reason the LTE one feels more laggy, might try a factory reset.
Its because of samung touchwiz. Nougat build is really laggy even though I had tab s2 and even after heavy debloating I noticed minor difference. When I switched to a custom rom it much much snappier without any lags.
So blame samsung or wait for them to fix these issues. I have a oneplus 3 and with 820 its really quick(custom rom)!
Sometime I feel some lag, but the very annoying problem I've found is that when holding the tablet vertically, scrolling the screen up and down reveals that the right side of the display is draw a little before the left side, so showing a strange "elastic" effect. This hurts me given the "premium" level of the tablet. The same effect doesn't show on my 3 years old Tab S, nor in landscape orientation.
Did you notice the same things?
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Have LTE version and it does feel laggy. Special if the device been off for long time.
Pretty bad performance when apps are updating or after sitting idle or of for long periods. Can't wait to root and put a Rom on it but I want to keep s pen functionality.
I did a Geekbench at 07 this morning I got 1823 single core and 4033 multi.
Now, a few hours later I get no more than 1190 single and 3100 multi, which is slower than my Tab s2
and my Geekbench 4 app hangs when trying to start up have to force quit it sometimes.
How can I find out who/what is stealing my speed?
Huib
Sorry kids, the Tab s3 is back to normal with single core 1773 multi core 4033 and compute a whopping 7085.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.primatelabs.geekbench
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Have LTE version and it does feel laggy. Special if the device been off for long time.
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Same problem with my LTE. Sometimes he hardly wakes up after a while. It may take some seconds or not wake up at all.
Now I have really problems. It just does not start up. It reboots when not starting up from lepp
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-There is no difference if using Nova or Touchwiz.
-The data/apps on it is a clone of my Tab S2
Huib
P.s.
I must say that playing very large Video files ( >10 GB) is much snappier. But e.g. my Dutch Volkskrant/AD newspaper does a very bad two fingers zoom pitch. It just hangs now and then while zooming. Problems that I do not have while zooming google foto's and others.
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Same problem with my LTE. Sometimes he hardly wakes up after a while. It may take some seconds or not wake up at all.
Now I have really problems. It just does not start up. It reboots when not starting up from lepp
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-There is no difference if using Nova or Touchwiz.
-The data/apps on it is a clone of my Tab S2
Huib
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I must say that playing very large Video files ( >10 GB) is much snappier. But e.g. my Dutch Volkskrant/AD newspaper does a very bad two fingers zoom pitch. It just hangs now and then while zooming. Problems that I do not have while zooming google foto's and others.
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I removed the SD card and did a factory rest and it seems like its working fine now. The tablet wakes up very fast and I don't see any lag so far.
are you guys using an SD card?
Yes, that should not be a problem. 128 GB.
I had however the program Dropsync ( great software BTW) referring to a non existing folder on the SD card.
So, at every startup/wake up, the program seemed to be searchig for the folder. And that caused the delay or hanging.
I am not 100% sure, but after stopping Dropsync, and later on referring to the correct folders, the problem never came back.
A small test, removing the SD card, helped me a lot.
Huib
Not using it to play games, but it seems to run smoother after an update I received today.
Hi! After reading this thread, I've decided to remove sd card and tablet stopped lag. Then I've formatted SD card to exFat, removed unused files so some music, several books and 3 photos left there. After putting it back, tablet started to lag again.
Today I've run AnTuTu Benchmark with sd and without. 1 test with card, 1 without, 1 with, 1 without. Between tests I've only closed AnTuTu via back button and nothing else.
So results:
With SD1: 3D 28282, UX 38632, CPU 29294, RAM 9185 TOTAL 105393
Without SD1: 3D 53146, UX 41127, CPU 23673, RAM 7392 TOTAL 125338
With SD2: 3D 28743, UX 38650, CPU 22223, RAM 6571 TOTAL 96187
Without SD2: 3D 57138, UX 43860, CPU 24020, RAM 8690 TOTAL 133708
As you can see, 3D and UX are much faster WITHOUT card. It's prettey old ADATA 32GB. No app is installed there. How can this be?
Old SD cards can get laggy. I had one in my Note4 that I'd had for about 5 years. Lots of reading and writing to it in that time. Eventually my Note4 started lagging and becoming unresponsive. I took the SD card out and no more lag.
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Old SD cards can get laggy. I had one in my Note4 that I'd had for about 5 years. Lots of reading and writing to it in that time. Eventually my Note4 started lagging and becoming unresponsive. I took the SD card out and no more lag.
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But what is he doing with SD card? There only few songs. Does it cache on SD all the time?
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Have LTE version and it does feel laggy. Special if the device been off for long time.
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My UK LTE version doesn't lag. It's actually quite fast and fluid. Do you have Samsung's cloud back-up feature activated? It consumes a lot of resources when it's running. I must have a unicorn Tab S3. It's never experienced Wi-Fi drain and gets stunning battery life; both in stand-by and active use.
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
I found turning on "Mobile data always active" in the developer options massively improved performance in my apps (at least where online load times and download speeds in-game were concerned)
Did you just get your phone recently? After setting up this phone for the first time, I also noticed the device was extremely slow, with all the app and software updates happening in the background. After all the updates were installed, I turned the phone off for about a day, and performance went to normal. It's not as fast as a flagship and there are minor hiccups here and there, but that's about what I expected from a 400 series SoC.
My original report was the day after I set everything up, I disabled the permissions for the launcher which did improve the responsiveness of the launcher, but application performance and launch times are still slow compared to my old device and not what I would expect from a phone of this spec.
I'm pretty confident this phone is a victim of oneplus' recently reported throttling for battery life. I was curious and compared geekbench scores (which aren't throttled under oneplus' list) and both the nord and my oneplus 5 got fairly similar scores for both cpu and compute. I tried out a browser benchmark motionmark which benches graphics performance. The nord got a 25 and the oneplus 5 got a 189... I ran the test again to make sure but got similar results.
That graphics should be coming from gpu and not cpu though....
I tested cpu and compute on geekbench, compute is a measure of gpu performance. The nord scored a little higher than the 5 in that.
I would assume oneplus' throttling would effect cpu and gpu but even if not, my oneplus 5 scoring almost 8x as high does not seem anywhere near normal
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I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
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Same experience here, i picked up this phone expecting at least a decent experience but still get bad slow not usable for everyday tasks sometimes.
Im not expecting a flagship performance of course but this is far from decent in my experience.
I hope android 12 will solve many performance issues. Or custom fw
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. Did not expect so weak dev community activity. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
zaooza said:
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
zaooza said:
Did not expect so weak dev community activity.
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You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
Metconnect2000 said:
Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Other than pictures from the camera being degraded compared to stock and having to install apps from the Play Store/changing a few settings in the Settings app, everything seems to work fine