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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
Before july 7th the unlimited data plan for $30 will have no cap which is a big plus for people who live in a 4g area. Starting on the 7th new customers will have to pick data packages what start with 2gb a month for $20 or $30. New plans suck.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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Currently with T-Mobile, they don't throttle you until you reach 5 gb. Some plans are different but being with T-Mobile for several years and NEVER been throttled, my plan is 5 gb. I am also going to switch to Verizon to take advantage of their data plan before they change.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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new t-mobile unlimited plans are 2gb for the special price, all others are still 5gb and they will throttle you (found out the first month).
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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Verizon's official position is that they may throttle those that are in the top 5% of data users, esp during peak data usage times. Only been with them a couple of weeks so not sure how hard ass they are. Haven't seen anyone complain.
I've only used about 4gb so far in 2 weeks.
I've been using about 10-15 gigs a month for the last 3 years and have never seen any cap,I'm sure they will start it when the new pricing plans start but I plan to keep my service the way it is.
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I have also been told by Verizon employees that plans in place before 7/7/11 will be grandfathered. If you don't have a VZW data plan yet but have been considering it, pull the trigger before the 7th.
I have not been able to confirm that the unlimited cap on grandfathered plans will be "for life" but this has been the general consensus from what I've heard.
so there is no data throttling on verizon as of now ! cause i might just use about 10 -15 gb of 4g in a month.
verizon throttles but that was 3G... not sure if that applies to 4G... yet.
6.6gb in third week and haven't been throttled. unlike the tmobile where i got throttled to 56k speeds.
I have never heard this 5% thing before. I am on a 3g only area and can say my data is getting throttled pretty rough. Been days since I got solid speeds and my girlfriends dinc, my old phone, is getting way better speeds. I am currently over 4.5 gb this month and she is under 2.5
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Good god what do you people do to use that much data? If I TRY to use a lot, I may use 4gb in a MONTH! I just don't find out practical to watch full movies on my phone... Sure a youtube video every now and then, but not a WHOLE movie. Talk about a battery killer...
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Recently, in order to save battery whenever im home which is most of the time i switch off the 3G network and go on wifi. Since I dont have 4G coverage near my home yet its much better than running of 3G. not only has it been lowering my data usage which is small to begin with but been making my battery last forever. even on my extended battery.
I have a boring job and no super vision. plus I tether a lot...
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Well data flies when you tether,a movie on the phone might only be 300mb but the same flick on a pc it 2gb,anyway since I have been a vzw slave I have bounced as much a 20gb but average 10-15gb,i drive a truck and this is my internet,as far as speeds go some 3g markets are slow some are fast but I have never seen it throttled,as far as 4g goes fastest I have seen is phoenix, slowest was oklahoma city, los angeles is consistant all over the valley.
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I just switched to verizon yesterday after learning this so that I would be grandfathered in. I spoke to 2 different store reps and 1 online rep and they all confirmed that data usage is 100% unthrottled and uncapped if you sign up before the 7th. Now I imagine there is some fine print which says if you use 50GB in a month they can throttle you if they wish, but obviously this is well above and beyond anyone's usage pattern.
On tmobile I was routinely hitting the 2GB cap without doing much at all. I stream a lot of music while I drive, and email a lot of 5MP pictures to myself to watch on my computer so I dont have to worry about a USB cable. I also surf on my lunch break and in the evenings on the couch. I can use about 1GB a week doing this.
I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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Go download speedtest and tell us what you get. Make sure you are doing this in a known good area.
I used over 70GB the first month this was out and never got throttled and still don't(Didn't have internet for that month so my phone became the internet). So its a good bet its quite high and will stay there for the unlimited people. >1MB/sec upload speeds <3 for torrents
I want to see who else is using SIMPLE MOBILE on this beast of a phone. Then we simplemobiletons can talk about any specific issues or at least know who each other are.
I dont think i have any issues at all that arent the exact same as T-Mobile except one. That i have to change APN to Simple US and simple and insert smpl. into that mms field and save.
actually one question. and this is not gnote specific but applies to gnote.
I have never gotten over say 3-4 mbs down using Data connection. i pay $60 a month for 4G instead of $40 a month for unlimited 3G
normally when i go outside during work in downtown chicago, i get less than 1 sometimes 2gbs.
has anyone else thought maybe that Simple Mobile 4G sucks and is barely better than their 3G if at all better?
i have gnote on simple mobile.. i have the 3g 40 dollar plan. and data barely works at all. do i need the 60 dollar plan? or switch to straight talk?
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FWIW, I have ATT (they don't make a distinction between 3g/4g LTE usage plans, I don't think), and the last time I was in Chi which was about a month ago, I was happy to be able to try out the Note on actual LTE.
However, I was quickly disappointed to find out that the hotel's WiFi was considerably faster than LTE and less battery drain (the latter's to be expected, but still...).
The moral of the story is that Chicago might not be the strongest of LTE markets??
Just a thought/observation.
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Y'all should just switch to Tmobile's Monthly 4G $30 plan. That's if you don't need that much minutes. Cos you only get 100mins but unlimited txt and data (5gb @ 4G).
Hello mates, I'm using also Simple Mobile here in Puerto Rico, I'd got my G Note 2 weeks ago, average speeds 1.5 to 2.5 mbps, 2 times only over 7mbps, for me, I can live with that download speed, the real problem is with the upload, damn it's really slow, 50kbps average...
FYI, currently installed Saurom 7.1 with Blaze Modem...
im using blaze modem on ics on simple mobile. i only get .11 on speed test..
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am also in Puerto Rico and speed suck am thinking Pay the extra 10 bucks for the 4g speed at thiis moment i have 40 dollar plan and speed sucks i wonder if is worth it. .. Whats with straigh talk is all unlimited?
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Y'all should just switch to Tmobile's Monthly 4G $30 plan. That's if you don't need that much minutes. Cos you only get 100mins but unlimited txt and data (5gb @ 4G).
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That's what i have i love the 5gb data but i do miss my minutes. but plan is way more affordable. I wish T-Mobile would stop being cheap and at least give us a gig on the 50 plan. . Even better 30bucks for 2 gigs and 1000 minutes. Cuz i never go over 2 gigs
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Hmm.. I've flashed every ICS modem and none of them work. I wonder if it would be worth it to switch to a GB rom :/
good 4g
i can't complain about my data speeds on simple mobile, I'm using the blackstar vii rom and the latest blaze that they got from the tmobile note and i get a got 3-7 mb per second is not bad. I also have the tin foil trick on the antenna, it really works.
Give it a try
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I can't complain either. On simple mobiles 3G plan. PadawanV4 ROM with the latest Blaze Radio and I did the foil trick and getting 5MB with only 3 bars. Haven't tested full signal yet. I've been with simple mobile since they kicked off and went through tons of phones, this is by far the best I've gotten.
I have the i717 I had it on an old black star rom on it and it worked fine but when I updated to black star X I cant I get it to connect to the simple mobile servers I can't even make a phone call can anyone post links to the files they were using to get it to work for instance the ROM and the radio the exact radio there's like 13 different ICS blaze modems out there
Maybe it just seems this way or I haven't tested with my GS4 in the same spots, but jesus, I can't get over 4meg down.. I always get 15-28 down almost everywhere I went and tested.. I'm gonna ask my dad to do a side by side with his note 2, if his is significantly faster, which I have a feeling it will be, I'm gonna have a bone to pick with T-mobile.. I won't accept this phone
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I got some good speeds here in honolulu.
Here in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area of North Carolina, T-Mobile's LTE download speeds are great (anywhere between 15 and 30 mbps), but no matter what, upload speeds will NOT top 10 mbps. Normally it'll jump above 10 then immediately go back down to somewhere around 9.5 mbps and stay steady there. No idea why, and it doesn't appear to be device-specific. It did the same thing when I had a GS4 GPE, and it does the same thing on my Z Ultra GPE. Makes no sense.
The same thing happened to me when I went from the S3 to the S4, it dropped about 10mb for a few weeks and then was right back up in the 40's and 50's. Now, coming from the S4 and now using the S5 I'm in the same boat, getting 28mb down and about 6mb up. I'm not really mad at all considering I just downloaded Wolf of Wall Street in 20 mins. Are we as consumers getting that impatient? I remember how stoked I was to see 3g when I had the original Mytouch.
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Holy crap. Where are you located? haha
Lol Mckinney tx. I switched from AT&T to t-mobile and it was quite a surprise. I can only get those speeds around my neighborhood anywhere else just typical lte speeds.
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Just moved to Tmobile from sprint. Have literal perfect signal in my house. With sprint I had no signal. 4G seems good to me. Most I got with sprint was 18Mbps. I'll take the perfect signal and 40+ Mbps any day
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Not too shabby
ditched my iPhone 5s and to get this amazing
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I usually get 20-40 down here in Portland OR and at least 10-15up anywhere I go.
I really really sad though because my office literally just moved a mile and since I have been here the fastest I've gotten down is about 20 and up at most like 7. Its really sad too because I am near the Portland airport and its a dense area that should have fast coverage
I live by the Portland airport also and only get about 10-15 download. Ill have to check the coverage map.
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35 - 40 here in Seattle.
I have been an ATT user for years - when the S5 came out, on a friends advice I moved to TMOBILE - when I got my S5 and started checking speeds in my house and near work - I was disturbed to see speeds less than 1/2 what i used to get on ATT - at first I thought it was my S5 but when I put the Sim Card in my NOTE 3 -I got the same slow speeds.
I canclled tMOBILE and went back to ATT and was pleasantly surprised to find that ATT Speeds were even faster than they had been before.
Last year, my average speed from inside my houuse was around 6-10mbps -not bad - closer to work I got awesome speeds - almost 30mbps at times - usually 22-25 - very respectible.
BUT, now I am getting 12 to 18mbps in my house - and even faster speeds near work, often clocking in at 35 to 50mbps - ATT seems to have kicked into overdrive here - (Milwaukee) - this is not a commercial for ATT - many of my friends swear by TMOBILE - but I guess they just didn't have the towers close enough to me to give me any real speed - while ATT has become a rocket ship for me - and my S5 is faster than any other phone I have had before -
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I live by the Portland airport also and only get about 10-15 download. Ill have to check the coverage map.
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No one in my office has an ATT LTE phone but we have many times done a speed test with all our of phones out at the same time and the Verizon users get 20-40mbps down and I would always get 20-40 down as well, the sprint person would get like 5 down lol (on LTE too). VZ upload speeds are usually faster that TMO but that really is not a big deal.
There is a difference in the network coverage but I'm not willing to get rapped by Verizons prices for a little better coverage, that is what wifi calling is for. And in an emergency now you can jump on most any network with these phones so that doesn't matter either.
Where i live I do have very good TMO coverage, I completely understand switching because you don't have good coverage at home, that is a big deal.
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I live by the Portland airport also and only get about 10-15 download. Ill have to check the coverage map.
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You're not alone, I live in the 205 area and only get 19mb at the highest. And 7 upload.... I am hoping it's just tower upgrades..... hahaha
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Maybe it just seems this way or I haven't tested with my GS4 in the same spots, but jesus, I can't get over 4meg down.. I always get 15-28 down almost everywhere I went and tested.. I'm gonna ask my dad to do a side by side with his note 2, if his is significantly faster, which I have a feeling it will be, I'm gonna have a bone to pick with T-mobile.. I won't accept this phone
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just got off the phone with t- mobile I have two of these devices both are getting below 1 meg . I live in Brooklyn NY. the speedtest result at the top is wifi . all the others are supposedly 4G LTE . this sucks!
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just got off the phone with t- mobile I have two of these devices both are getting below 1 meg . I live in Brooklyn NY. the speedtest result at the top is wifi . all the others are supposedly 4G LTE . this sucks!
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Something is wrong.. When I was in brooklyn, I was getting 25 down average, in the city I was getting 40-50, was insane.. I'm the OP for this thread and I was worried because I kept doing a speed test and wasn't normal. I just moved into a new place and it just seems to be where I'm at. I see almost 10 or more wherever I go.. the truth is , anything over 4 down and it doesn't matter anymore. besides downloading, videos and all other data required things are just as good if I was getting 4 down or 400 down,
Dam I remember having T-Mobile a few years ago and the network speed was OK. But not great. Then had to switch to Sprint and after having Sprint. Dam Sprint is a joke. Don't know how they say they even have 4g or 4g Lte. Never got anything above 9 mbs. Now I am back with Tmobile and what can I say. They rock. It's like Comcast speeds on my Galaxy S5. I am very impressed. And it's unlimited. What more can you ask for?
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Wish I got those speeds on lte with t-mobile I am lucky to get 12 megs down and I get around 5 megs up I had around 14 - 20 down with sprint and same upload speeds most of the time I get just as fast 4G speeds with t-mobile as a do with lte sometimes faster with 4G
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I get an average of 20 around town some parts I get 30s and 40s tmobile is doing it right
Can't believe how bad Sprints network is. Even the calls sound horrible. I'm very happy to be back with Tmobile. Plus they have the best Samsung Galaxy S5 device. They didn't block the download booster. Plus for some reason my device didn't have any Tmobile apps pre-installed. Not even a tmobile boot screen.
My brother using his s3 gets better download speeds then me using my s5 on lte. I got 300 kB/s he got 1.2 MB/s.. I also feel I get throttled but have no way of proving it.
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I get up to 56 in saint louis with tmobile but the average is about 30.. Not quite the 110Mbps i get with Charter but its faster than any of my freinds that use other carriers. I was using att not long ago and averaged 12mbps which sucked because i get that on Tmobiles HSPA+.
Wrong attachment these are with WIFI on Charter .. Below is with Lte in saint louis
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I get up to 56 in saint louis with tmobile but the average is about 30.. Not quite the 110Mbps i get with Charter but its faster than any of my freinds that use other carriers. I was using att not long ago and averaged 12mbps which sucked because i get that on Tmobiles HSPA+.
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Sorry I attached the wrong results . Here is mine with LTE in saint louis ..
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Can't believe how bad Sprints network is. Even the calls sound horrible. I'm very happy to be back with Tmobile. Plus they have the best Samsung Galaxy S5 device. They didn't block the download booster. Plus for some reason my device didn't have any Tmobile apps pre-installed. Not even a tmobile boot screen.
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no bloatware? may be u got one of those returned device from one of us here, lol.
No its not. It was new but unlocked.
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No its not. It was new but unlocked.
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i shouldnt unlocked either..
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i shouldnt unlocked either..
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Guess I'm a lucky guy. Lol
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Guess I'm a lucky guy. Lol
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It's was factory unlocked. That's why it cost more. Lol
Tmobile S5 is not factory unlocked, i paid full retail priced for mine too but is not unlocked, need to contact them to get the code.
It's been fast for me in Portland with consistent 50/8 during peak hours and 70/15+ off peak hours.
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It's been fast for me in Portland with consistent 50/8 during peak hours and 70/15+ off peak hours.
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Yeah thats pretty damn good . I max out at about 56 here in saint louis with an average of 30 .. All in all that is way better than what i was getting with ATT.. I averaged 13 here in saint louis with Att which is horrible considering i get that speed with HSPA+. Once they are able to build out more here it will improve but It really dont matter .. An average of 30mbps is more than enough for my uses plus i have a 100+Mbps home connection that i am on most of the time .
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Dam I remember having T-Mobile a few years ago and the network speed was OK. But not great. Then had to switch to Sprint and after having Sprint. Dam Sprint is a joke. Don't know how they say they even have 4g or 4g Lte. Never got anything above 9 mbs. Now I am back with Tmobile and what can I say. They rock. It's like Comcast speeds on my Galaxy S5. I am very impressed. And it's unlimited. What more can you ask for?
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Definitely not unlimited, you just won't get charged for it now
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Off peak hours in Portland.
I really hope they leave those speeds up for you T-Mo guys. When I signed up with AT&T I was seeing something like 50 down/up. After a few months, they capped the towers in Dallas (from what I understand). I see about 27 down and 12 up now on average.
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White bear Ave, St. Paul MN.
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I really hope they leave those speeds up for you T-Mo guys. When I signed up with AT&T I was seeing something like 50 down/up. After a few months, they capped the towers in Dallas (from what I understand). I see about 27 down and 12 up now on average.
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AT&T doesn't have unlimited 4g Lte. They charge a arm and a leg for data.
I've been consistently getting 30 mbps easily and I've gone 11 GB into my cycle in 10 days. And my connection has been slow like this for this last 2 days. Network optimization my ass. This is complete crap (MOD edit: profanity removed).
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Optimizing or throttling? 11gb leads me to believe you have an unlimited plan and they have begun throttling you...but who knows...either way it sucks when a network slows you speeds down
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Optimizing or throttling? 11gb leads me to believe you have an unlimited plan and they have begun throttling you...but who knows...either way it sucks when a network slows you speeds down
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I use those quotes loosely. They are throttling me. I am on unlimited and have never had any issues with throttled speeds until recently. I'm referring to the network optimization for unlimited data plans where they throttle only when you're using a tower that's congested and you're over only 4.7 GB of data for a month which is the average. That's complete crap (again mod edit) because now that roughly 78% of Verizon users are on a tiered data plan and I'm sure a majority of them only use their 2GB to prevent overage charges.
Anyways, they stated it wouldn't start until October and I'm already experiencing decreased speeds.
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I use those quotes loosely. They are throttling me. I am on unlimited and have never had any issues with throttled speeds until recently. I'm referring to the network optimization for unlimited data plans where they throttle only when you're using a tower that's congested and you're over only 4.7 GB of data for a month which is the average. That's complete crap (again mod edit) because now that roughly 78% of Verizon users are on a tiered data plan and I'm sure a majority of them only use their 2GB to prevent overage charges.
Anyways, they stated it wouldn't start until October and I'm already experiencing decreased speeds.
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What did you get before that? Personally I wouldn't down on 30 to much. Came from att was lucky on lte to get 25
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What did you get before that? Personally I wouldn't down on 30 to much. Came from att was lucky on lte to get 25
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No I'm getting throttled down to about 3 mbps. I've been trying to post a screenshot of my speeds but it won't post on the xda app. Going from 30 mps to 3 mbps is a pretty significant decrease in my opinion.
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No I'm getting throttled down to about 3 mbps. I've been trying to post a screenshot of my speeds but it won't post on the xda app. Going from 30 mps to 3 mbps is a pretty significant decrease in my opinion.
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I'm sure it's already started. I live out in the boondocks (with a tower not far from me that doesn't server any large towns, but DOES service a semi-major highway), and I went over 4.7GB last week and, sure enough, as soon as I went over, BAM! My 12-15mbps speed went down to .5-1.5mbps.
I was tethering, but I don't pull a TON of data each month (I hover around 10-11GB for the month, at the most); I mainly use it as low-latency connections for online games.
there's no way that tower was 'crowded' at that time of night (9PM). Speeds weren't restored until morning.
If they throttle us down to 3mbps its still a lot better that att and tmob throttling down to 56kbps from what I've read previously lol
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Yeah I've heard that the throttling was supposed to be in October but it seems they got the months mixed up. I've been unlimited for years and up to today I haven't experienced any slow down. Where I live is not a congested stress I wouldn't think but that doesn't mean they won't start on me as well. My speed is only around 10 down at anytime with any phone but i wouldn't want to show down much more. I knew sooner or later they would get us. Jesse
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I don't see how is legal to throttle unlimited at 5 gig and not throttle a 10 gig plan at 5 gig.
It seems like it would be but that don't mean they won't do it anyway. Jesse
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Seems like a class action suite may be in order.
What I would like to see is how the "average" of 4.7 GB was calculated.
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11GB in 10 days?
Maybe it's because I never had the luxury of ever having unlimited data because when I got my first smartphone, Verizon had already gotten rid of unlimited and I haven't ever been on a different carrier, but I can't even begin to fathom how someone can uses that much data unless they do some serious media consumption/torrenting daily.
I don't even know what I'd do with unlimited data. ~3GB is my monthly usage.
Sucks that Verizon is going to throttle unlimited users, but they'll do ANYTHING to get you off of the plan (other than pay you to).
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11GB in 10 days?
Maybe it's because I never had the luxury of ever having unlimited data because when I got my first smartphone, Verizon had already gotten rid of unlimited and I haven't ever been on a different carrier, but I can't even begin to fathom how someone can uses that much data unless they do some serious media consumption/torrenting daily.
I don't even know what I'd do with unlimited data. ~3GB is my monthly usage.
Sucks that Verizon is going to throttle unlimited users, but they'll do ANYTHING to get you off of the plan (other than pay you to).
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I could use 10 GB in a day, easily. Downloaded a couple 3GB 1080p movies in that time period. I use it for my girlfriend's house as a wifi hotspot constantly. I use it for streaming Netflix. Once my 2 TB portable hard drive comes in. I'm going to start my quest for using 1 TB of data in a month as one final screw you to Verizon
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Heck I can easily use 10GB in one day downloading ROMs. Certainly can use 10GB in 10 days using my Slingbox as well. Not that hard at all to do.
Thankfully I haven't seen the optimization happen yet and I am running at about 10gB per month. What will be interesting is how bad it gets when verizon starts turning on all the VoLTE cities and seeing how quickly the unlimited data customers get optimized into hell because they need the bandwidth for the voice data.
Complain to the FCC chairman - the selective throttling of udp customers is not network optimization, it is profit optimization. They are fine with a user using 100GB a month if they pay $375/mo for it; they are not fine with you using 5GB/mo if you only pay $29.99/mo for it.
Verizon's throttling has nothing to do with network congestion and everything to do with profit maximization.
Here is where you complain:
fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler-mail
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Complain to the FCC chairman - the selective throttling of udp customers is not network optimization, it is profit optimization. They are fine with a user using 100GB a month if they pay $375/mo for it; they are not fine with you using 5GB/mo if you only pay $29.99/mo for it.
Verizon's throttling has nothing to do with network congestion and everything to do with profit maximization.
Here is where you complain:
fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler-mail
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still haven't seen any slowdown, but i live in a rural area. As long as they stick to their statement about when they will throttle, i should be fine. Averaging 13gbs a month mostly streaming music and flashing roms.