Switching from Honor 8 - Is it worth it? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers

Hi guys.
So, if you've read the title, you'll know that I currently have a Honor 8 that I love, except for one thing. GOD. DAMN. EMUI. Build is great, camera is great, battery life is good, it's fast, snappy, etc... But I can't stand EMUI anymore. Late notifications, weird scrolling animations, rare security updates and, most of all, Honor has still not released the source code, which prevents devs from making a stable Custom ROM. LineageOS has been in the works for months and it works quite well, but it randomly reboots every now and then, and it won't be fixed until the source code has been released, which might be.. Never.
So, I've decided to sell it (it can still go for a decent price, I've had 305€ -$330- offers, but I have to wait to get a new phone since I don't have a backup) and go for a RN4, probably the best value for that price, that I ordered on AliExpress for about $150, shipping included.
I've seen that there are quite a lot of AOSP ROMs for the RN4 (Snap version), but are they stable enough for a daily driver ? Does the fingerprint scanner work? How is battery life? And, most of all, are you guys happy with it so far?
Since they are quite hard to get in France (people don't like to import from China), I can easily sell it for $200 if I don't like it, but I'd like your opinion on it
Thanks !

The AOSP roms are still sometimes buggy. And the camera quality is terrible. Get the oneplus 3 or 3t. The only reason id recommend a RN4 snapdragon is battery life. Trust me, the camera is terrible compared to the honor 8.

Lurdy said:
Hi guys.
So, if you've read the title, you'll know that I currently have a Honor 8 that I love, except for one thing. GOD. DAMN. EMUI. Build is great, camera is great, battery life is good, it's fast, snappy, etc... But I can't stand EMUI anymore. Late notifications, weird scrolling animations, rare security updates and, most of all, Honor has still not released the source code, which prevents devs from making a stable Custom ROM. LineageOS has been in the works for months and it works quite well, but it randomly reboots every now and then, and it won't be fixed until the source code has been released, which might be.. Never.
So, I've decided to sell it (it can still go for a decent price, I've had 305€ -$330- offers, but I have to wait to get a new phone since I don't have a backup) and go for a RN4, probably the best value for that price, that I ordered on AliExpress for about $150, shipping included.
I've seen that there are quite a lot of AOSP ROMs for the RN4 (Snap version), but are they stable enough for a daily driver ? Does the fingerprint scanner work? How is battery life? And, most of all, are you guys happy with it so far?
Since they are quite hard to get in France (people don't like to import from China), I can easily sell it for $200 if I don't like it, but I'd like your opinion on it
Thanks !
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I read somewhere that huawei is changing the look and feel of emui with nougat update
May be you should first wait for update, will save you some bucks
I re read your post, ignore the savings part

Aniket21B said:
I read somewhere that huawei is changing the look and feel of emui with nougat update
May be you should first wait for update, will save you some bucks
I re read your post, ignore the savings part
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I've been on Nougat for a while now (since it was released a few months ago), the look of the launcher is a bit more stock, but the behavior of some stuff is still, well... Not great. For example some notifications show up late, if at all, lockscreen notifications are limited to one line, they don't show up on the lockscreen at all if you have a theme installed...
I use a stock Android looking theme, but yeah, I'm not a fan of the interface, it's driving me crazy.
On the other hand, I've using MIUI for a while now. I had it back when it was first released on the first Galaxy S back in 2011, then on my Nexus 4, then on my Mi3... Plus, now that there are stock ROMS available..

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Should i buy Le Max 2?

I'm using OPO for 2 years and counting . It's good phone to me but it seems old so i'm looking for new phone.
Le max 2 price in my contry is: 250$ for 4GB/32GB version. It sounds pretty cheap, isnt it? 250$ for brandnew phone, Snap 820, 4GB is quite interesting
My main usage is:
+ phone
+ social apps
+ phone call recorder app, voice memo
+ some small apps
+ and small game like slither.io,..
My OPO is very lightweight with Exodus rom, i wonder which rom to use with Le Max 2 to have same experience.
How about Lemax 2 battery, back camera and design. Please share your experience and suggestions!
up...........
no
its only $220 today in china.
http://m.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max2_receives_price_cut_in_china-blog-20171.php
but without the sources its a dead phone on the next few months. hope they will release the sources.
^^ Still NO..
sanke1 said:
^^ Still NO..
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220$ for snap 820, 2k screen,.. but bad support
Le Eco or LeTV (Whatever they want to call themselves today) can practically give this phone for free but still people, especially the developer community will not touch this phone.
Le is so protective of their custom EUI that they don't want enterprising modding community to make custom ROMs for it. If no one is interested in buying your products, then what is the use of trying to be Apple regarding their software?
BTW EUI is not perfect. It is pathetic unoptimized piece of turd and the less we talk about the random bugs the better.
sanke1 said:
Le Eco or LeTV (Whatever they want to call themselves today) can practically give this phone for free but still people, especially the developer community will not touch this phone.
Le is so protective of their custom EUI that they don't want enterprising modding community to make custom ROMs for it. If no one is interested in buying your products, then what is the use of trying to be Apple regarding their software?
BTW EUI is not perfect. It is pathetic unoptimized piece of turd and the less we talk about the random bugs the better.
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so shouldnt buy it
If Sources are released then it'll be a beast,even then its a good device,No issues except fingerprint is little slow compared to others.Just bought a sealed packed in 14k in India & very happy
They will never release source, their whole company plan is to sell phones with no profit and instead earn money by the streaming function that is built in the rom.
This phone is really the cheapest high-end or close-to-high-end device, it outclasses the Zuk Z2 and Xiaomi Mi5 with its worldwide LTE support.
Wouldn't surprise me if they aren't making any profit, latest flagship phones always cost around $180.
It all depends on what you want. If you are simply looking for a phone at a good price, it is hard to beat this one. The biggest flaw of this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It isn't good. However, if your main goal is a phone that has continued software development, this probably isn't the phone for you. But if you're content with stock rims, this is a very good phone. It can do most everything you want.
diarylove80 said:
I'm using OPO for 2 years and counting . It's good phone to me but it seems old so i'm looking for new phone.
Le max 2 price in my contry is: 250$ for 4GB/32GB version. It sounds pretty cheap, isnt it? 250$ for brandnew phone, Snap 820, 4GB is quite interesting
My main usage is:
+ phone
+ social apps
+ phone call recorder app, voice memo
+ some small apps
+ and small game like slither.io,..
My OPO is very lightweight with Exodus rom, i wonder which rom to use with Le Max 2 to have same experience.
How about Lemax 2 battery, back camera and design. Please share your experience and suggestions!
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jim262 said:
It all depends on what you want. If you are simply looking for a phone at a good price, it is hard to beat this one. The biggest flaw of this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It isn't good. However, if your main goal is a phone that has continued software development, this probably isn't the phone for you. But if you're content with stock rims, this is a very good phone. It can do most everything you want.
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I'm running stock China 17s no root, I've no problem with fpscanner it's blazing fast an misses 1/25, but no bugs whatsoever. I compare it to an IPhone, But for 1/3 of the price.
It's a brilliant phone. It takes some getting used to though. EUI is not the most amazing launcher but it runs smooth no lag. The specs are dope at an affordable price. So far I have a few things that I am not happy with in the stock ROM
1. The light sensor in direct sunlight, the colours get over saturated, the blacks become gray.. It's annoying. Hope they can fix that with an update.
2. Camera issues. Can not auto focus during video recording, and images are a bit over exposed in the sun. Average camera that's for sure.
3. Bloatware. A lot of Chinese apps that do not apply to users out of China, they are useless and take up unnecessary space and data.
And that's about all for now. If I could install custom recovery and could get a bug free MIUI 8, i would ditch EUI.
just got mine today, updated to latest 18s. I'm quite pleased but having notification problems when the phone has been in sleep for a while. I hope it's easily fixed, but disappointed the error is allowed to get through testing.
edit, correction 17s
meangreenie said:
just got mine today, updated to latest 18s. I'm quite pleased but having notification problems when the phone has been in sleep for a while. I hope it's easily fixed, but disappointed the error is allowed to get through testing.
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Where did you get the 18s? The official Chinese site released the 17s on Sept. 2.
Amowagou said:
Where did you get the 18s? The official Chinese site released the 17s on Sept. 2.
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sorry, i meant 17s
meangreenie said:
just got mine today, updated to latest 18s. I'm quite pleased but having notification problems when the phone has been in sleep for a while. I hope it's easily fixed, but disappointed the error is allowed to get through testing.
edit, correction 17s
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I believe that the software is OK, simply you are too new on the forums and you don't know how to handle it. Please check topics about "notification problems" and you'll find the way to keep them from not cleaning while the phone is in sleep mode. The notifications are working fine.
meangreenie said:
just got mine today, updated to latest 18s. I'm quite pleased but having notification problems when the phone has been in sleep for a while. I hope it's easily fixed, but disappointed the error is allowed to get through testing.
edit, correction 17s
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Hello, i got mine last friday and i have eui version -> 5.8015S and i don't see any ota update, could you tell me where do you get that update, if you need to install any recovery, what are the steps to update this? I just know that power button and + vol i get EUI recovery and there is a option to flash a update.zip file

Needing advice - best stock firmware for battery/performance/stability

Hi there all - I've been digging through these forums, and all over the web, and have not found a definitive answer for this one.
I'd love to know what the best setup is for a stock ROM - I'm running 7.11 (latest 32.4.A.1.54) and I'm not too impressed with the battery life, even with a brand new battery. That version is stable for me, but I'm wondering who's tinkered with their phone enough to have a good baseline?
I'm wanting to root, and then run a debloated stock ROM. I'll happily apply some tweaks, but the ones I've seen on here appear to be no longer stable, or unrelated to my needs.
Who's settled on a really good setup for their Z5C? I want to get a final config and just use the thing until I upgrade - no more testing updates etc. I doubt we'll be getting many more official updates...
bener said:
Hi there all - I've been digging through these forums, and all over the web, and have not found a definitive answer for this one.
I'd love to know what the best setup is for a stock ROM - I'm running 7.11 (latest 32.4.A.1.54) and I'm not too impressed with the battery life, even with a brand new battery. That version is stable for me, but I'm wondering who's tinkered with their phone enough to have a good baseline?
I'm wanting to root, and then run a debloated stock ROM. I'll happily apply some tweaks, but the ones I've seen on here appear to be no longer stable, or unrelated to my needs.
Who's settled on a really good setup for their Z5C? I want to get a final config and just use the thing until I upgrade - no more testing updates etc. I doubt we'll be getting many more official updates...
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Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
Chronic2k13 said:
Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
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I'd be totally willing to give it a go - it just seems that all the ROMs I've found have one or two decent 'not working' issues. I'll look into it - thanks for the recommendation.
Last Android 5, 32.2.A.0.305_R5C gave me, yes I am a light user, 10 (ten) days!
Then 6 came and it almost halved.
Fingerprint unlocking was better on 6, so I didn't go back to 5.
Phone battery was fresher then of course.
hermovv said:
Last Android 5, 32.2.A.0.305_R5C gave me, yes I am a light user, 10 (ten) days!
Then 6 came and it almost halved.
Fingerprint unlocking was better on 6, so I didn't go back to 5.
Phone battery was fresher then of course.
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That's amazing! What do you get on 6? 7 has not been good battery-wise for me.
bener said:
That's amazing! What do you get on 6? 7 has not been good battery-wise for me.
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On 6: it was a 4-6 days. Now on 7.1.1 (32.4.A.1.54_R3E) 3 days, but nowadays a use the device more intense (GPS always on). I have ForceDoze installed. Don't expect wonders from ForceDoze.
I am not monitoring it very close anymore, just accepted that it isn't over week anymore!
On 5 I had not ForceDoze installed, bus disabled some things (usually GPS off)
You guys, more than 2days means you are not REALLY using your phone!!! Or you are using it as a phone and not much more!!! Add Bluetooth connections, sometimes bad signal, location services, multiple messaging apps and mails to get the usual battery time of 1-2 days?
I'm intrested in this question too... Which is the best ROM for Z5c for STABILITY and STABILITY and features?
I installed eXistenZ on a Z3c and I really loved it. Everything working without a single bug and a lot of extra customizations thanks to eXistenZ app. Is there something similar for Z5c? Or an AOSP ROM without any single bug and perfectly stable?
Thank you
Chronic2k13 said:
Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
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But is it better than stock ROM?
Im looking for the same thing as OP. Clean, stable and good battery life. But since messing with Sony roms and root is far more complicated than it is on a Samsung, LG and pretty much anything else, just havnt taken the time to try out everything. Hope anyone who has tried different roms can give their suggestions, thanks
Latest .11 MM stock rom is also very good.
I'm still using it daily on my Z5c, as I never updated it to Nougat (mainly because xposed was not supported months ago). It's stable and battery friendly. You should try it.
Doze and long-life battery features are there.
I cannot say if camera is better on Nougat, this is one of the most Important questions imo.

Any Mate 10 Pro users try any of the Project Treble roms?

This rom comes with the stock camera. Has anyone tried it yet? How is battery life and stablility?
The video seems down.
Do you have a link for this ROM ?
I'm running the LineageOS 15.1 ROM which is slick af, but video recording doesn't work in any of the ROMs I've tried (LOS, Phh-Treble 8.0/8.1, OpenKirin for Honor 10 View 8.0/8.1). Still images are good and with some effort I got the phh treble Huawei camera to work for still images at least. Battery is slightly worse but still more than good enough
Any viable for daily driver?
perpels said:
I'm running the LineageOS 15.1 ROM which is slick af, but video recording doesn't work in any of the ROMs I've tried (LOS, Phh-Treble 8.0/8.1, OpenKirin for Honor 10 View 8.0/8.1). Still images are good and with some effort I got the phh treble Huawei camera to work for still images at least. Battery is slightly worse but still more than good enough
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I’m considering buying this phone with the sole intention of putting a stock/close to stock ROM on it. Would you consider any of the ROMs you’ve tried good enough for a permenant daily driver?
Be harsh in your judgement, I’m happy to do a bit of fiddling to get stuff set up but I’m not an enthusiast at this any more.
Anearion said:
I’m considering buying this phone with the sole intention of putting a stock/close to stock ROM on it. Would you consider any of the ROMs you’ve tried good enough for a permenant daily driver?
Be harsh in your judgement, I’m happy to do a bit of fiddling to get stuff set up but I’m not an enthusiast at this any more.
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This may be an incomplete answer, but I bought mine two days ago with the same idea in mind and may be able to give you my results.
In short : EMUI is a joke, it is unimaginable for me that people can like this as the software feels cluttered and uninspired.
From the AOSP point of things : except for the camera, the basic stuff works great once you got how to flash these things (little advice, don't flash TWRP, as stock recovery is hard to get in case you want to get back to stock).
But things seem to change quite rapidly, so maybe everything could be easy and fixed by next week
Anearion said:
I’m considering buying this phone with the sole intention of putting a stock/close to stock ROM on it. Would you consider any of the ROMs you’ve tried good enough for a permenant daily driver?
Be harsh in your judgement, I’m happy to do a bit of fiddling to get stuff set up but I’m not an enthusiast at this any more.
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LineageOS 15.1. It's decent in all aspects except video, runs smooth without any snags and works as a daily driver. If you use 2 sims and a lock screen you gotta disable pin for sim 2. Auto brightness works but is overly aggressive. Getting the ROM loaded was super smooth, some simple ADB commands and a factory reset and it's good to go.
I'm pretty happy with it as the honeymoon period of stock EMUI has ended and the super aggressive RAM management that kills timers and countdowns is the worst waste of 6GB RAM I've ever seen.
You might wanna check out Nokia 7 Plus though
I really like the either the lineage or stock aosp roms. The camera is indeed way worse, which kind of sucks, have not tried adding the stock huawei camera app. I also have this issue where my wifi hotspot, bluetooth hotspot or usb tethering all are not working But think I am one of the few with these issues, or are there more people with this problem?
Thanks for the responses guys. As Perpels suggests, the other phone I'm looking at is the Nokia 7 Plus, so I guess I'll just be keeping an eye on M10P ROM progress until N7+ full reviews start showing.
At the moment it looks like Lower spec processor/headphone jack/Android One vs High spec processor/AMOLED/ ROM headaches.
Urgh.
Hey folks, I just made a little guide to make all this a bit easier. Feel free to give it a look !
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/guide-treble-compatible-rom-t3761927

I love my MI 8, do you?

I would go for MI 8, without any doubt, and here are my reasons:
1. Did I mention the price? I paid $350 shipped for a gorgeous blue MI 8 with Snapdragon 845 + 6 GB RAM + 6.21" gorgeous AMOLED display. Bootloader was unlocked and all I had to do was flash TWRP + EU ROM and I am in the game!
2. Pie updates come weekly and they get better and better. It's very fluid, smooth, and performance is awesome.
3. Stock camera has improved a lot but BSG modded GCAM is excellent and is specially made for MI 8. The iSheeple X (you know what I am talking about?) phone users are amazed at the quality of the photos and couple of times they insisted that I take pictures in parties... That speaks volumes!
4. DualGPS is good with L5 satellites to boot.
5. Froze several MIUI apps (MI Browser, Account, Phone, Mail, Messaging, Sync, etc. and replaced it with Google couterparts) and checkout the battery consumption overnight. Incredible!
6. Alternative ROMS like Havoc (I particularly love this as it has tons of features/customizaton), Pixel, etc. are available and they can be a daily driver too.
7. Use Nova Launcher with Prime. With gestures and all the Nova Prime customization (sky is the limit), the navigation is a delight!
8. I used to hate the notch with passion and for some unknown reason, got used to it now. I am not really sure why bit it doesn't bother me any more. That's what happens when you keep staring at something, day in/out. Go figure!
9. Did I mention the price? I just cannot believe Xiaomi can sell the device with the same specs as a S9 for less than half the price. That only shows how much these branded manufactures are robbing the customers! This is what I call as a daylight robbery!
I own it for more than 3 months now and would buy it again without hesitation.
PS: Sure, there are few minor bugs on the beta PIE ROM which are not a show stopper for me.
I may sound like a Xiaomi salesman but am definitely not I used to love Nexus line for its features and price and now Google follows Sammy. Now, Xiaomi comes to the rescue!
For the last 6 months - No, I really didn't, it has been a constant disapointment and frustration..... until last Friday that is.
The latest ROM from Xiaomi.eu solved the last piece of the puzzle for me (google hotword detection) so now my car stereo running android auto finally works properly again!
With GCam for it's night mode, it is all-round great now.
Surely you should have had the update for the stock camera to have the new night mode? How's that?
jimac said:
For the last 6 months - No, I really didn't, it has been a constant disapointment and frustration..... until last Friday that is.
The latest ROM from Xiaomi.eu solved the last piece of the puzzle for me (google hotword detection) so now my car stereo running android auto finally works properly again!
With GCam for it's night mode, it is all-round great now.
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i was on Samsung galaxy s4, bought for 480$, i disappointed with it's features and performance and high price,also got stuck with locked bootloader.
for me i will not go for Samsung anymore.
i was searching a lot to get a nice phone with high performance and reasonable price, also availability in my country.
until i found xiaomi mi8, impressive phone and a lot of features, i feel the real freedom.
but one thing made me sad is the big battery drain in the miui 10. miui 9 was great!
so i will flash havoc os to et rid of the battery drain problem
I love my Mi8 too. Currently updated to 10.1.1.0
Just need a tweak for audio, because I bought Kz ZSN IEM and tested/compare my old 2015 samsung A8's audio output to Mi8 and notice that samsung A8 audio quality is far more good and loud than our Mi8..
Waiting to unlock my Mi8, and will flash dolby atmos.
Try to test it too and see for yourself, and if you have other suggestion on how to improved our mi8 audio pls feel free to comment. Thank you
jimac said:
For the last 6 months - No, I really didn't, it has been a constant disapointment and frustration..... until last Friday that is.
The latest ROM from Xiaomi.eu solved the last piece of the puzzle for me (google hotword detection) so now my car stereo running android auto finally works properly again!
With GCam for it's night mode, it is all-round great now.
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Wow, i didn't even realize ok google worked now, thanks! And you're right, now it's perfect!

Should I Update To One UI 2 / Android 10?

I have a Samsung Galaxy S9+ Snapdragon on AT&T. Currently on android 9 / one-ui 1.0 / kernel 4.9.112-17018887 / build PPR1.180610.011.G965U1UES7CSK2 / December 1st 2019 security patch
Considering letting it upgrade further, notably to One UI 2 / Android 10
I've seen some stuff about memory leaks? I'm worried about getting locked into a bad upgrade that will make my phone worse
What's the consensus? Are the current builds for Snapdragon stable?
Also, will I lose access to any features / apps? I was very pissed off when the previous update to the camera got rid of Pro Video mode permanently, am I going to lose features like that in this new update?
I did the update few weeks ago and I have to say I'm really disappointed. Maybe it's just my case but my phone slowed down really hard. I have to wait a few seconds to unlock my screen, apps are shutting down randomly on their own, everything looks like the phone is under some hard throttling. I'll only add that I have no root, and my ROM is OFW.
Cheers
Best is to stay with Oreo like I do. Best decision ever. No missing features and no ugly UI
You guys are nuts. 2 ui has been awesome on my device. I get 5 to 6 hours of sot on a 2 year old device. The ui is not ugly between good lock and a few other things fully customized how I like it. I don't know about pie features. So I don't know if something's missing. But there are no complaints on my end from a g9650
true that. 2 ui has been great on my s9+. no problems at all. everything is nice and quick, no slowdowns whatsoever.
but i guess it depends on how one uses his phone and what kind of apps and settings keeps on it.
too many variables to mention.
Yeah definitely. 10 is every bit as good as pie or better. UI is a slightly more refined. There are always people out there that say these updates ruin their performance and battery life but I never see what they are talking about, they also never offer up any proof of their claims. Just want something to complain about I guess.
I recommend upgrading to one ui 2.0, my S9 feels a lot snappier and more refined, also the camera is improved especially the HDR. And the added screen recording feature is very useful.
In my opinion it's not that great, they've changed things that didn't need a fix and added few bugs for that
Camera quality in my case is actually worse than on a9
I don't know about the battery, honestly feels the same
Didn't also slow down or anything, but sometimes everything just feels wanky
Waiting now for OneUI 2.1, hoping they'll fix those things otherwise I'm going to be disappointed as hell

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