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Hello there,
Let's talk about the C5 Ultra with Innolux display, model E5506, Software version 29.0.A.1.55.
It sucks to know it's stuck to Android L 5.0 but it's good to know it will go directly to Android M 6.0, I can see how Sony care about the image of the C5 as it uses it in many advertisements, and also if you go in the official page about software upgrades you'll see that the White C5 is the one that show a marshmallow on screen.
One note about size, it's big. If your hand is not big enough, don't even think about it. It has a one hand mode but I don't use it, my hand is big enough - however, I bought a Nillkin case and I feel it's grip improved, the plastic/glass back make it slippy... really slippery.
After two weeks I learnt how to hate and love this device that promise to be a super mid-range one but that many times act like a flagship. I used as comparison my Xperia Z3C as comparison to draft a list of pro and cons and if I have to say the first thing that come up in my mind about the two is that the display show more saturated colors on the Z3C but of course it has a triluminos display. Other than that I am surprised how the C5 "at times" perform ways much better than the Z3C.
Google now, for example: the voice recognition is faster and smoother in the C5 rather than in the Z3C - Damn you Sony for leaving us with 5.0, Google now conflicts with Camera so I have to disable the voice recognition in all screens otherwise I won't record videos with audio.
Smooth menu navigation, apps open fast and in some cases faster than the Z3C. The C5 has a full HD display and the Z3C no, so you expect that the performance on the C5 should be a bit more laggy, well it's not. It's really smooth but seems that the Memory Leak occur in 5.0 and after few hours of normal usage the device lags, slow down and eventually I'll have to reboot the device to regain full performance.
The MTK True Octa-core inside the C5 doesn't warm like the Z3C Qualcomm QuadCore - The Z3C heat and when it does it, it does it really badly compared to the C5 that it heat too but not like the Z3C and camera won't crash although the camera welcome you at times with the message warning that if the device heat too much it may close the camera app... never happened to the C5, happened a lot to the Z3C.
Photos - Weird how the Z3C take great photos but the C5 take greater ones! It's not a matter of MPX, but a matter of sharpness: C5 take great sharp photos, Z3C take great smooth photos - Confused here but both wins.
Battery life - Tie: They do last an entire day in mixed usage scenarios - no games, I don't play games on phones but due my job there are moments when I really need to use the phone a lot especially if not at the office or in front of a computer. Both devices are connected to my Pebble Time and SWR10 SmartBand and there is little to no battery drain but if both connected to my car stereo I can see a significative battery drain, especially if listening music with Spotify thru the car stereo.
Battery Charger: They both sucks, but the stock one of the C5 sucks even more (0.8A ewww). Anyway in both cases I don't use the stock charger but an Anker Turbo Power adapter, 8A - Both charge in less of two hours... so, just beware: do not use the stock charger: I call them a black cheapy-little jokes.
Interface: Tie: Sony idea of interface it's not that bad, it's not 100% vanilla but almost, there are color icons, different colors here and there some specific functionalities added and it's 100% bearable/lovable.
NFC: Works better in the C5, in the Z3C (probably for the glass-back) is slower.. however I installed a Nillkin frosted back cover and now they are at the same level. Anyway they both works but without cover the C5 win.
Connectivity - WIFI: Eh... the Z3C claims to be dual-band - True, the C5 claims to be single band - True and the winner is C5. The wifi is faster on the C5, I don't know where is the issue with the Z3C but Miracast stutter a lot, it's slow to download, slow to connect, slow slow slow. The C5 is great to cast, fast to connect, fast to download, faster faster faster.
Connectivity - H+/LTE - Tie: Found same download speed in both device, fast and reliable - it may be related to my Carrier, not sure.
Connectivity - Signal Reception: Almost a Tie, one only issue is that the C5 tend to connect more to LTE and when it does the signal strength is slightly lower compared to when connected to H+ anyway I haven't lost signal at all and signal quality is good in both devices.
Connectivity - Bluetooth: Almost a Tie, but Z3C has stronger Bluetooth signal than the C5. Random disconnection of my smartwear if I am one room away, not happening with the Z3C. - Anyway, both are reliable.. just the C5's is less powerful.
Call Quality: Ladies and gentleman, the winner is the C5. While the Z3C has a great call quality, I can say that the C5 with with same call settings (Equalizer: normal, Speaker Voice Enh, and Noise suppression) sounds ways much better - I suspect that the size of the speaker is different hence the quality gain.
Speaker Quality: Tie and not - Damn Sony! Z3C: Stereo - C5: Stereo but Mono - Meaning that the front firing speakers are good in both devices but probably with this software version in the C5 we get just Mono Music reproduction with using just the bottom speaker!! Why???
So basically, after two weeks I think that the C5 is a super-mid range device that thinks to be a flagship device, and probably it is one. Sony never said it's a mid-range, they said the M5 was and left the C5 as an incognita. 2GB of ram are enough but not with android 5.0 in fact I think that the only issue of this phone is the installed Android Version, in fact if you excuse me I'll close this review with a "I need to reboot the device as it started to lag again" - I hope that Sony will rush the Marshmallow release and probably the C5 will become a great device and probably I'll say it's a real flagship device.
YoGem said:
Hello there,
Let's talk about the C5 Ultra with Innolux display, model E5506, Software version 29.0.A.1.55.
It sucks to know it's stuck to Android L 5.0 but it's good to know it will go directly to Android M 6.0, I can see how Sony care about the image of the C5 as it uses it in many advertisements, and also if you go in the official page about software upgrades you'll see that the White C5 is the one that show a marshmallow on screen.
One note about size, it's big. If your hand is not big enough, don't even think about it. It has a one hand mode but I don't use it, my hand is big enough - however, I bought a Nillkin case and I feel it's grip improved, the plastic/glass back make it slippy... really slippery.
After two weeks I learnt how to hate and love this device that promise to be a super mid-range one but that many times act like a flagship. I used as comparison my Xperia Z3C as comparison to draft a list of pro and cons and if I have to say the first thing that come up in my mind about the two is that the display show more saturated colors on the Z3C but of course it has a triluminos display. Other than that I am surprised how the C5 "at times" perform ways much better than the Z3C.
Google now, for example: the voice recognition is faster and smoother in the C5 rather than in the Z3C - Damn you Sony for leaving us with 5.0, Google now conflicts with Camera so I have to disable the voice recognition in all screens otherwise I won't record videos with audio.
Smooth menu navigation, apps open fast and in some cases faster than the Z3C. The C5 has a full HD display and the Z3C no, so you expect that the performance on the C5 should be a bit more laggy, well it's not. It's really smooth but seems that the Memory Leak occur in 5.0 and after few hours of normal usage the device lags, slow down and eventually I'll have to reboot the device to regain full performance.
The MTK True Octa-core inside the C5 doesn't warm like the Z3C Qualcomm QuadCore - The Z3C heat and when it does it, it does it really badly compared to the C5 that it heat too but not like the Z3C and camera won't crash although the camera welcome you at times with the message warning that if the device heat too much it may close the camera app... never happened to the C5, happened a lot to the Z3C.
Photos - Weird how the Z3C take great photos but the C5 take greater ones! It's not a matter of MPX, but a matter of sharpness: C5 take great sharp photos, Z3C take great smooth photos - Confused here but both wins.
Battery life - Tie: They do last an entire day in mixed usage scenarios - no games, I don't play games on phones but due my job there are moments when I really need to use the phone a lot especially if not at the office or in front of a computer. Both devices are connected to my Pebble Time and SWR10 SmartBand and there is little to no battery drain but if both connected to my car stereo I can see a significative battery drain, especially if listening music with Spotify thru the car stereo.
Battery Charger: They both sucks, but the stock one of the C5 sucks even more (0.8A ewww). Anyway in both cases I don't use the stock charger but an Anker Turbo Power adapter, 8A - Both charge in less of two hours... so, just beware: do not use the stock charger: I call them a black cheapy-little jokes.
Interface: Tie: Sony idea of interface it's not that bad, it's not 100% vanilla but almost, there are color icons, different colors here and there some specific functionalities added and it's 100% bearable/lovable.
NFC: Works better in the C5, in the Z3C (probably for the glass-back) is slower.. however I installed a Nillkin frosted back cover and now they are at the same level. Anyway they both works but without cover the C5 win.
Connectivity - WIFI: Eh... the Z3C claims to be dual-band - True, the C5 claims to be single band - True and the winner is C5. The wifi is faster on the C5, I don't know where is the issue with the Z3C but Miracast stutter a lot, it's slow to download, slow to connect, slow slow slow. The C5 is great to cast, fast to connect, fast to download, faster faster faster.
Connectivity - H+/LTE - Tie: Found same download speed in both device, fast and reliable - it may be related to my Carrier, not sure.
Connectivity - Signal Reception: Almost a Tie, one only issue is that the C5 tend to connect more to LTE and when it does the signal strength is slightly lower compared to when connected to H+ anyway I haven't lost signal at all and signal quality is good in both devices.
Connectivity - Bluetooth: Almost a Tie, but Z3C has stronger Bluetooth signal than the C5. Random disconnection of my smartwear if I am one room away, not happening with the Z3C. - Anyway, both are reliable.. just the C5's is less powerful.
Call Quality: Ladies and gentleman, the winner is the C5. While the Z3C has a great call quality, I can say that the C5 with with same call settings (Equalizer: normal, Speaker Voice Enh, and Noise suppression) sounds ways much better - I suspect that the size of the speaker is different hence the quality gain.
Speaker Quality: Tie and not - Damn Sony! Z3C: Stereo - C5: Stereo but Mono - Meaning that the front firing speakers are good in both devices but probably with this software version in the C5 we get just Mono Music reproduction with using just the bottom speaker!! Why???
So basically, after two weeks I think that the C5 is a super-mid range device that thinks to be a flagship device, and probably it is one. Sony never said it's a mid-range, they said the M5 was and left the C5 as an incognita. 2GB of ram are enough but not with android 5.0 in fact I think that the only issue of this phone is the installed Android Version, in fact if you excuse me I'll close this review with a "I need to reboot the device as it started to lag again" - I hope that Sony will rush the Marshmallow release and probably the C5 will become a great device and probably I'll say it's a real flagship device.
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Nice review, thanks
Nice review, I have the same feeling about the C5 Ultra, it's big, and ever since the 1.55 update, it's stable, I hope Sony keeps that level of stability with Android M, I probably wouldn't rush to update.
I like the camera, it is often slow to launch, but produces good results in most cases with Superior Auto, when I want slightly faster shutter speed and lower ISO I use Manual Mode + Sports/Party Scene (create Manual Mode shortcut on launcher). For videos I like the result when using Horizon app.
Of course if someone is being negative they can always mention the many Cons of this device, but as an owner I find the Pros outweigh the Cons.
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Since Sunday 3 January 2016 I am in US and connected to t-Mobile, thanks to agreements between Movistar MX and t-Mobile I get fast LTE speed and I left WIFI mainly off. With my surprise the device is slightly faster and battery life improved.
As I said at the beginning of the review I think many of the issues are Lollipop 5.0 related, we should get M in the next weeks and hopefully many issues will be fixed. However this time I tried to hate the device and simply, I cannot... it's a really great device.
I personally Highly Recommend it.
Best mid class phone ever made
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The C5 Ultra is awesome, and I have good hopes that the 5.1 update just released will help fix some of the niggling bugs from 5.0 (especially the known memory leak).
Unfortunately, just last week mine decided to randomly turn itself off, and never turn on again. Tried all the key press combos, won't turn on. Eventually got it to take a firmware repair via Companion, which completed successfully, but the thing still won't turn in. Threw in the towel, sent it in for repair under warranty. Hopefully I'll get it back... soon...
i just got my C5 Ultra today and i am also highly impressed - it runs android 5.1 - but one thing i noticed is that my ethernet adapter won't work with the C5 - so now i am thinking of rolling back to stock rom - if possible - did anyone try an ethernet adapter with the C5 on Android 5 succesfully? it used to work on z, z2, z3 (until some later lollipop version) , z ultra ... so newwer versions of android seem to have make sony xperia devices loose the ethernet-work-out-of-box capability
Can anyone tell me any downsides to this phone? Is there a better choice? Is it worth the money?
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IMHO Not worth it anymore. Marshmallow MAY BE the last big update. It is a 2 years old phone, Is still a capable device, but it is starting to show its age.
Z3+ or a LG G4 is very worth it although both arent new devices
This device has grown a bit old and is on its last few updates (or so goes the 2 year support time)
I have the Xperia z2, I've had it for 2 years now.
1) The battery life is good.
2)Performance (It can play gta sa on max with no lag or very little).
3)The Noise Cancelling Earphones that come with it are amazing.
4)The Xda community has a lot of support for this phone. You can find all kinds of roms for it.
5)However the last update for it will be marshmallow. (I am running the beta 6.0.1)
I would tell you to buy the z3 because they are now in the somewhat same price range. Or if you have the money the G4.
If you have any other specific questions feel free to ask me. Keep in mind everything I say is my personal opinion and is subject to my own personal use.
If you don't have a lot of money, you can get a good phone for a good price. The z2 has everything you need, fantastic qc801 and even 3gb of RAM.
There are some cons:
-no fingerprint sensor
-no qi (but magnetic charger. Keep in mind, you can hold your phone in your hand and use or with magnetic charger, with qi this would be... not so good.)
-USB hidden behind plastic cap. This is crap, they made it better from z3 onward.
As I bought mine like 15 months ago, it was like: why buy a z3 if you can have a z2 for less money? They are almost identical.
Today the price gap may be smaller, so z3 could be more attractive.
I have mine for about a year and half and I wouldn't switch... Before Z2, I used Nexus 4,5 and I've never really complaint about battery life, but after having Z2 for some time... Can't imagine having smaller battery.. It's one of those things, that you get used to so easily... Plus Android is nearly stock, not filled with tons of bloatware, and generally smooth and enjoyable to use.
If you're thinking about Z3/Z2, then I would guess it doesn't really matter which one you choose, since they are quite similar.
In the end, it really depends on what you prefer/need.. If you're really about top new technologies like fingerprint sensor, etc. then you might be disappointed after some time for not having it, but if you are looking for a phone that has very good battery life, display, performance and also looks pretty nice, then I'm sure you'll like it...
Yes it worths if you find it at a good price (maybe second-hand in good condition) , Z3 has 90% same specs as Z2 , same cpu , same memory , same screen and same features .
Here are my personal opinions about Z2 :
The cpu is fast enough to handle any app/game nowadays , I still didn't see any lag even in heavy games , I don't belive in those dual quads , is useless since the phone uses only one quad a time and it's more a commercial thing .
Memory is big enough (3Gb) , maybe too big , I had a S4 with 2Gb and NEVER filled even 1.5Gb and I was on 5.1.1 , actually the 6.0 uses less memory so is even better .
Screen is OK , I admit an AMOLED would be much better but the actual screen on Z2 is just fine , I came from an AMOLED phone (S4) and I got used to TFT really quick .
Battery is the simply the best from all smartphones I had , I am on CM12.1 and I just changed hotplug to MSM-mpdecision wich shuts down unused cores and I get almost 3 days with normal use (internet + calls + wifi all the time) and same smoothness as normal .
Software updates : Marshmallow is the last one for sure , but I just don't care because I will always use Cyanogen versions of ROMS since I hate stock roms full of bloats .
In my honest opinion fingerprint , infrared , heartrate , humidity and temperature sensors are just pointless features added for marketing .
Watch this video , what this guy says there is very true , people are getting easily manipulated with pointless new features by these smartphones companies .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkVQk2ypTg
Hi,
I'm selling my Z5 Compact under MM. The decision was hard because I kinda love the fingerprint but...
The battery is a complete joke, it doesn't last a day compared to my old Z3C which is far more better in everything,
The device gets warm and hot all the time, in any application I go (I have no games and I mostly use Google apps and Telegram)
The back camera glass protector has some problem, see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/help/dirty-camera-glass-protection-t3336230
I'm going to take back my good old Z3 Compact which is far more better.
And you ? Do you also share the same feelings about it ?
Before the MM update - yes, I felt the same. Since MM and the newest update mine has been great.
If it weren't for z3c side charging I would have never chosen the z5c. I'm holding onto mine for a bit longer until this HTC mini, s7 mini, and xiaomi mini release. Front facing speakers are keeping me from downgrading back to a mini Samsung for the time being.
And as far as battery life and heat issues I'm right on the same page. I've adapted to it for now by quick charging at lunch time to get me through the work day and clipping phone to me so I'm not burning myself in my pocket.
I am thinking about doing that too, but there are 2 things that keeping me from that, fingerprint sensor and camera! I don't know what to do, wait for S7 Mini,go for S7, wait for SONY to maybe fix issues of this phone or what else?
I think if only this phone had 3GBs of RAM we had no problem or even SONY used good old Snapdragon 801!
i had drain and heat problem until i shutoff 4G, now (3G.5HPSA) only dosnt need really need fast internet
now my phone is 40-90 hours average use , instand 12-30
i have 5.1.1 but maybe it will work also with 6, u can try
I am quite happy with the phones performance and battery life since MM, but I have now preordered the HTC10 and my neighbour is already waiting to buy the Z5C from me. If the HTC10 is as good as I beleive it is, I can overlook the fakt that I hate big phones in this case. Ive been a very happy HTC owner since the HD2 and lastly the M7. The Z5C is a great phone to me, but it will never be more than that. HTC usually managed to float my boat just that tiny bit better than the other brands
eivissa said:
I am quite happy with the phones performance and battery life since MM, but I have now preordered the HTC10 and my neighbour is already waiting to buy the Z5C from me. If the HTC10 is as good as I beleive it is, I can overlook the fakt that I hate big phones in this case. Ive been a very happy HTC owner since the HD2 and lastly the M7. The Z5C is a great phone to me, but it will never be more than that. HTC usually managed to float my boat just that tiny bit better than the other brands
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I used to be a big HTC fan until they went to the one series. They are supposedly bring an h10 mini out with flagship specs this year. Hopefully they don't disappoint like the last two minis, I want to go HTC again.
eivissa said:
I am quite happy with the phones performance and battery life since MM, but I have now preordered the HTC10 and my neighbour is already waiting to buy the Z5C from me. If the HTC10 is as good as I beleive it is, I can overlook the fakt that I hate big phones in this case. Ive been a very happy HTC owner since the HD2 and lastly the M7. The Z5C is a great phone to me, but it will never be more than that. HTC usually managed to float my boat just that tiny bit better than the other brands
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you know the HTC 10 has not stereo speakers anymore? only dual speakers one (lower) for bass and for top on high pitch
Z5C is kind the same thing BUT! still stereo , Z5C top speaker wave range of 150hz-22050KHz and bottom speaker is 500HZ-22050Khz (less bass)
Superrman said:
you know the HTC 10 has not stereo speakers anymore? only dual speakers one (lower) for bass and for top on high pitch
Z5C is kind the same thing BUT! still stereo , Z5C top speaker wave range of 150hz-22050KHz and bottom speaker is 500HZ-22050Khz (less bass)
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Dude, I dont care about that stuff. If I want to listen to music I get me a proper stereo and speakers or headphones. Any cellphone speaker sounds horrible.
What kind of personality disorders do people have these days to need a stabilized photosensor for selfies? Is a look in the mirror in the morning not good enough anymore? Million megapixels cellphone cameras still make crappy pictures in comparison to any 100€ camera Ive gotten my hands on.
Marketing makes us beleive that we need so many things in our cellphones, but in the end they usualy cant to one thing great.
I bought the Z5C because it was the only product available that offered highclass specs in a small phone. I dont like the design of it, the picture quality, speaker sound quality, sony customizations...you name it. Its a good phone for what it is. A phone. Snappy performance and 2 days on a charge make me a happy user.
The HTC10 is not compact, which I am not happy about, but it has a beautiful design and HTC Sense. Apparently it also has better sound quality if you connect good headphones to it and I like to listen to music with the best possible quality. This is an archievable goal in a phone btw...dslr picture quality isnt!
If someone builds a phone with the size of the Z5C (or even smaller), 1080p resolution, aluminium body/looks like the HTC One series, happily dumps the selfy camera and top-spec hardware, but little to no changes to stock android, then I buy that phone in a heartbeat.
The complete contrast for me is Samsung now. Make it huge, put useless features on it and customize it to the max. Full throttle marketing bull**** in my mind, but people seem to love it.
eivissa said:
Dude, I dont care about that stuff. If I want to listen to music I get me a proper stereo and speakers or headphones. Any cellphone speaker sounds horrible.
What kind of personality disorders do people have these days to need a stabilized photosensor for selfies? Is a look in the mirror in the morning not good enough anymore? Million megapixels cellphone cameras still make crappy pictures in comparison to any 100€ camera Ive gotten my hands on.
Marketing makes us beleive that we need so many things in our cellphones, but in the end they usualy cant to one thing great.
I bought the Z5C because it was the only product available that offered highclass specs in a small phone. I dont like the design of it, the picture quality, speaker sound quality, sony customizations...you name it. Its a good phone for what it is. A phone. Snappy performance and 2 days on a charge make me a happy user.
The HTC10 is not compact, which I am not happy about, but it has a beautiful design and HTC Sense. Apparently it also has better sound quality if you connect good headphones to it and I like to listen to music with the best possible quality. This is an archievable goal in a phone btw...dslr picture quality isnt!
If someone builds a phone with the size of the Z5C (or even smaller), 1080p resolution, aluminium body/looks like the HTC One series, happily dumps the selfy camera and top-spec hardware, but little to no changes to stock android, then I buy that phone in a heartbeat.
The complete contrast for me is Samsung now. Make it huge, put useless features on it and customize it to the max. Full throttle marketing bull**** in my mind, but people seem to love it.
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yup also one of the reason i bought this phone because its small, my previous phone was 3.5" sony with walkman WT19 , so even this one abit big for me, lol..
im mostly disappointed of
1.camera lens (plastic) can scartch easly and can ruin the shots
2.photos are noisy\blurry even with good light ,
3.phone heating fast, (even low end apps or, even 4G signal; if high end apps like asphalt 8 in 2mins its 50c\120F)
4.when phone get hotter it become slower ,
5.speakers are uneven and weak , loudspeaker awful, my previous phone was 4times louder didnt need it use of bluetooth in car, now i need...
6.didnt came with quickcharge QC adapter
7.didnt came with in-ear headphones
8.update the phone to MM make it worse battery and lags,camera*, didnt upgrade it yet*
still pretty fast phone with nice battery but not worth the price (mine cost about 800 US$ when i bought it)
My only problems with the phone are:
some hick-ups during normal operations
overheating
average camera
poor system customization options
Otherwise the phone is perfect. The battery is great, I've recently lasted two days (~10% when going to sleep on the 2nd day) with automatic brightness and 24h sync with mobile data, some sms and a few calls, I even played some Hearthstone on a bus. The battery seems to have problems on certain units.
Greets
EDIT:
Mine was 390 USD... gotta love Europe
The z5c came out almost 1 year ago, do you guys think the z5c is still worth buying?
What do you guys think? If no, what would you consider buying, considering the z5c as first option?
***edit: it's my 1000th post on xda yay! ***
i think yes, small phone, great performance, great camera, didn't have any problems in 5 months except camera lens, but devilcase lens protector fixed that, i would buy again
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I bought it 2 months ago. Totally happy with it. No problems up to now.
I wanted a small phone with good performance, and this one was the only one that fitted these criteria.
My 2nd option was iPhone SE... since I came from an iPhone 4S, I was a bit tired of iOS. Personally I think Android Marshmallow is in a really good shape when compared to iOS, in my opinion it is even better.
Buy.
bought one yesterday. Its the best small phone i could find for the $380 i spent. iPhone SE is about the only other 1 i would have considered.
If you dont require a sd slot there are better options.
I picked one up for USD370 (including shipping) for my wife. She had a Z3C before and loved it, but the screen stopped responding. For that price it is an amazing phone.
The latest firmware almost fixed all stuffs, the phone is pretty usable and finally safe to buy and recommended now. The only thing disapointed me is the photo/video quality still not as good as my older Z1c at high ISO(the sensor indeed got 25MP not only 23MP which is over crowed on a small 1/2.3" size) but no doubt Z5c focus speed and camera speed way faster and screen much much clear.
I think yes if you want to buy a small flagship phone. It's just great in everything, almost. I bought it on February and I love this phone.
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fast
Responsive touchscreen
No lag in almost every game and apps even in high graphics
The camera is awesome (front and rear). but sadly it's can't run the camera over 25 min in 4k. The autofocus actually fast this will be great when you record a video. You can make a bokeh, hdr, or a long exposure pictures. And it's camera is also good in low light.
I like the keyboard, you can swipe like swift keyboard and the auto correct is very usefull
The battery life good also, I got 6-8 hours in normal use (social media, music and browsing) and 4-5 hours when I play fifa 16
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The phone getting hot very fast when you use the camera, and play online game like fifa 16.
For me it recently sure was. As a former iPhone 5 user I wanted to switch to Android on a small (< 5" screen) high-end device. Early 2015 I choose a Z3C based on these criteria. Very nice in almost any way, though camera -especially rooted- was kind of crappy.
I recently upgraded to the Z5C based on the same search criteria. It seems that most manufacturers tend to put more low-end hardware in smaller devices, here Sony has done a nice job. I considered the Samsung Galaxy A3, though the Z5C came out best for me.
I look forward to the day that a more complete and stable version of Cyanogenmod will be released for the Z3C This is likely to make my Z35 experience optimal.
I had a z3c, love the small size and massive capabilities. I replaced it with the z5c about 8 months ago. There is no other device on the market I would rather have. Even tried a galaxy S6 for a bit... Hated every moment of having that one.
My only beef with its I cannot have any special software that comes from having a vendor branded device. (No VOIP on AT&T)
Bought one month before. Best decision according to me. But not the best for those who doesnt want small size or fm radio.
How do you guys have "great performance" from your Z5 Compact? Mine runs worse than my older HTC One M8 in games. The Z5 Compact gets hot after 2 minutes of high graphics gaming, however, if you know how to root, install a new kernel etc. you might get good performance. I'd say underclock the CPU and let it get a bit hotter before automatically downclocking. That's at least what I'm trying now. The camera is good, however not the best. Batterylife is better than most phones, speakers are meh, and overall the phone is stable. Used it for 3 months or so and since I got it 100 dollars cheaper than the iPhone SE I think it's good enough. Just hope I can push the performance to at least as good as my One M8 :/
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How do you guys have "great performance" from your Z5 Compact? Mine runs worse than my older HTC One M8 in games. The Z5 Compact gets hot after 2 minutes of high graphics gaming, however, if you know how to root, install a new kernel etc. you might get good performance. I'd say underclock the CPU and let it get a bit hotter before automatically downclocking. That's at least what I'm trying now. The camera is good, however not the best. Batterylife is better than most phones, speakers are meh, and overall the phone is stable. Used it for 3 months or so and since I got it 100 dollars cheaper than the iPhone SE I think it's good enough. Just hope I can push the performance to at least as good as my One M8 :/
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Most of the guys that claim good stories are unrooted so you know they don't actually use their phones. I've had great results in power consumption and heat with androplus v34, but it comes at the price of performance.
My 2 are rooted (one with dry restrored) and running xposed,and xpower rom. Both seem to be faster and smoother than my sons' - much bulkier - m8 and iPhone 6. Can't find anything close to the quality of this phone at this convenient size.
I actually wouldn't recommend it at all since Sony stopped updating the software already. I am still on 1 April security patches. I find that unforgivable. And I'm going to switch to S7 once T-Mobile gets its sheet together –*they raised the price by 100 euro a week before I could extend my contract.
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Small
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water/dustproof
I like the screen very much
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2 GB RAM which means apps unload faster than you can say "but I just opened two tabs in Chrome"
gets hot even without gaming (I reinstalled the software just in case but it didn't help)
no software updates
camera is not what I expected
I would actually recommend Z3C over Z5C. It's same size, cheaper, works faster (!), doesn't get hot and the Concept software is awesome.
Going to research rooting now, maybe it will manage memory a bit better.
S6 looks like on the same boat stuck with 1 April security patches. 720P required less memory intensive. Z3c is very easy to get touch screen problem after one year and the camera quality even worse than Z1c. I don't satisfied with Z5c but the price is dropping so I think still worth for new owner.
raytheblacksmith said:
I actually wouldn't recommend it at all since Sony stopped updating the software already. I am still on 1 April security patches. I find that unforgivable. And I'm going to switch to S7 once T-Mobile gets its sheet together –*they raised the price by 100 euro a week before I could extend my contract.
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Small
microSD
water/dustproof
I like the screen very much
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2 GB RAM which means apps unload faster than you can say "but I just opened two tabs in Chrome"
gets hot even without gaming (I reinstalled the software just in case but it didn't help)
no software updates
camera is not what I expected
I would actually recommend Z3C over Z5C. It's same size, cheaper, works faster (!), doesn't get hot and the Concept software is awesome.
Going to research rooting now, maybe it will manage memory a bit better.
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Are you on the latest software? Because i owned the z3c and now the z5c and besides the battery life i love this phone way more. Camera is far better and the software runs pretty smooth also even with a sheet load of apps in the ram is still fast.
Actually, the other important thing bugged me is the slow AC wifi speed but since the compact model got only single wifi antenna(Z5 got dual wifi antenna), it is impossible to top out wifi if you got a damn fast Internet connection and router like me.
When you build a NAS or share files via router, the Z5c can't playback ultra quality videos(like the video shoot from a DSLR at 100M+ 4K) though the connection detected at 433Mbps but in reality, I got only 70~120Mbps around. The speed is faster than 802.11b/g/n and good for general Internet purpose but only reached the very entry quality of AC speed.
Plus the rom I'm running Xpower 3.0(.224) bugged to browser vidoes shared out via win10 smb. I can view any photo but can't playback all videos, tested to roll back 5.1.1 and no problem. Not sure if .253 fixed the issue, been waiting for Xpower 4.0(.253) to release.
Yeah I am on the latest software. I had great hopes for it. But for instance today the phone heated up, stayed hot, lost 70% battery in three hours and then finally shut down with the red light blinking. Ummmmmmmm.
raytheblacksmith said:
Yeah I am on the latest software. I had great hopes for it. But for instance today the phone heated up, stayed hot, lost 70% battery in three hours and then finally shut down with the red light blinking. Ummmmmmmm.
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Real hard to solve without root. If you root it, you can flash the Increase thermal-performance mod plus lower down the max cpu clock for the price of slower speed. In my experiences, they are quite a helping hand but sure can't fix all, might be 50% better experiences though.
If the X Compact with sd820 is real coming up, probably it can fix the heat issue(even so, sd820 is also hot). But I doubt I will switch to Xc bcoz Z5c already spend me much money, or only until the price dropping a lot next year.
Hi,
I am thinking buying this phone. The most important thing for me is to have a snappy phone for regular apps(spotify, whatsapp, mail, browsing) , and at least one day of battery on lte (I don't use more than 3.5h sot).
From what i saw on this forum xperia x might be a good choice for me. Would you recommend something else? or can xperia x fulfill my needs?
Thanks.
I was evaluating between X and XP when they both come out. I noticed Sony removed "2 days battery life" from XP's marketing materials. So its X for me. I need battery life more than gaming performance though.
ykphuah said:
I was evaluating between X and XP when they both come out. I noticed Sony removed "2 days battery life" from XP's marketing materials. So its X for me. I need battery life more than gaming performance though.
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and what's your opinion? are you pleased with your decision? do your day by day routine is similar to mine? how is your battery life ?
iulian. said:
Hi,
I am thinking buying this phone. The most important thing for me is to have a snappy phone for regular apps(spotify, whatsapp, mail, browsing) , and at least one day of battery on lte (I don't use more than 3.5h sot).
From what i saw on this forum xperia x might be a good choice for me. Would you recommend something else? or can xperia x fulfill my needs?
Thanks.
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Go for it.
S650 is more than enough for you, even when gaming counts. The Z5 heats up and throttles itself pretty fast even on normal usage. MM roms on Xperia phones are hell fast already.
Though, isn't it too OP to buy a S8xx phone for daily apps?
EDIT: There is no phone on the X line that could last up to 2 days. My X normally last for 5 hours onscreen, with gaming web browsing are my top priorities.
Z3c still is the one with the strongest juice pack.
iH8Ecchi said:
Go for it.
S650 is more than enough for you, even when gaming counts. The Z5 heats up and throttles itself pretty fast even on normal usage. MM roms on Xperia phones are hell fast already.
Though, isn't it too OP to buy a S8xx phone for daily apps?
EDIT: There is no phone on the X line that could last up to 2 days. My X normally last for 5 hours onscreen, with gaming web browsing are my top priorities.
Z3c still is the one with the strongest juice pack.
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ok thanks. I might wait a bit to see how does nougat affect xperia x. (as any update brings some slow effect to the day by day experience)
iulian. said:
ok thanks. I might wait a bit to see how does nougat affect xperia x. (as any update brings some slow effect to the day by day experience)
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Well, there is hardly any reason to nerf the X in the next update. M4 and Z4 was nerfed due to the heating issues, which the X doesn't have.
Also, you can go back to MM at anytime.
Having this same dilemma currently. Had my eye on the Xperia line since the Z1C and my GS3 is finally failing enough that i'm going to pull the trigger on something new and looking to step away form the galaxy line. Not a big gamer beyond mindless time killers (angry birds and the like) so mostly just need snappy performance for browsing and youtube and good battery life. I feel like the X hits that sweet spot between giving up a bit of screen size with the compact and going up to the bigger Z5 which i'm not really sure i want to do either. Can get a Z5C and XX for the same price right now, and only about $50 more for the Z5. Seems like all the reviews are mainly knocking the XX based on the steep list price and saying "just get a Z5 instead" but now that the price has come down so much i'm not sure that really applies anymore. For practical everyday use i feel like the X is going to be right on par, and any of them are going to smoke this dinosaur of a phone i'm on now.
well coming to my initial thoughts z5 is better than x? because for me are the same price
and how much battery life can I get using waze? (for a 5h road trip, would i need a car charger?)
iulian. said:
well coming to my initial thoughts z5 is better than x? because for me are the same price
and how much battery life can I get using waze? (for a 5h road trip, would i need a car charger?)
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I use another navigation app, but i guess the X will survive with around 5% with Stamina on all the way, while the Z5 will die halfway.
Though you should have a portable charger in your car every time. It doesn't take too much space anyway.
yeah. ok thanks.
I still have some doubts of the battery life of xx, but I suppose this is mainly because the market is flooded by 3000mah batteries.
I like that X have earpiece in better position, as having the earpiece, like Z5 have, at the phone edge, is quite annoying, during a call, the phone doesn't cover my ear hole, but instead I must hold phone in some strange and uncomfortable position and others can hear the conversation.
X -s earpiece sound is also better, as Z5 have smaller earpiece and as it's waterproof, so it's behind protection tape, which changes the sound.
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I like that X have earpiece in better position, as having the earpiece, like Z5 have, at the phone edge, is quite annoying, during a call, the phone doesn't cover my ear hole, but instead I must hold phone in some strange and uncomfortable position and others can hear the conversation.
X -s earpiece sound is also better, as Z5 have smaller earpiece and as it's waterproof, so it's behind protection tape, which changes the sound.
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but how is battery life on both devices? (i understand that xx has enough battery juice for at least one day on 4g)
iulian. said:
but how is battery life on both devices? (i understand that xx has enough battery juice for at least one day on 4g)
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Logic say's that more performance (bigger screen, more CPU cores etc) consumes more power. So it depends of phone usage. It You are continuously on 4G, then depends how good is the signal. If signal is bad, phone needs to amplify the signal and this again eats more battery.
Quote from - http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-vs-Sony-Xperia-Z5_id4206/page/4
"In terms of total capacity, the 2,900mAh cell of the Xperia Z5 has the lead over the 2,620mAh unit of the Xperia X. But as you should know by now, numbers are just numbers.
Indeed, we found the numbers to be unrepresentative of our experience, with the Xperia Z5 offering worse battery performance with perhaps a 10% drop in longevity compared to the X. Not a massive advantage for the newer device, sure, but still something to keep in mind. Obviously, this ratio can vary wildly depending on what your typical usage looks like.
When it comes to charging times, the Xperia X, with its smaller juicer getting filled up some 15 minutes quicker than the larger unit of the Z5."
hi, again. how about an older sony (like z3, z3+ - saw that z3+ has s810 chip, and i am concerned about overheat) but how about z3? saw good reviews even after some years.
I bought the Xperia X a month ago and I am really happy with the device. I would estimate around 2 days battery life with normal usage. I think the phone is a perfect all-rounder with clean UI, good/fast camera, fantastic front camera (13mp), vibrant full-HD 5" screen, beautiful design/finish with metal back and 21/2 D glass. PS4 remote play (if you own PS4) is great too. Finger print scanner is also very consistent and extremely fast (<1 sec to start and unlock phone). My previous phone was Xperia Z3C which was also very good, but overall I would rank the Xperia X higher mainly due to the screen, cameras, finger print scanner and metal finish.