Hey, about 2 weeks ago, I flashed LineageOS 14.1 and I expected it will be fast and smooth, but it is not... it is slower and more laggy than my previous LG G2. When I run some app or just using multitask, it is slow and laggy, sometimes it takes 10s to load Music Play. Im not sure, but I think the problem is RAM management, on EMUI I used to have about 500 - 800MB free, but on Lineage I have 100 - 300MB free, only android takes about 700 - 900MB. Do you know the solution? Thanks
Performance might be a combination of things.
- The Snapdragon 800 (from the G2) has very fast CPU cores which can still beat a lot of midrange phones to date performance including the Snapdragon 616 found in the Honor 5X. Which likely has a pretty big role in the overall feel and speed.
- Hardware didn't start as a flagship like the G2 so there might have been compromises on storage speeds among other things.
- LineageOS 14 isn't fully optimised at this point. With some updates including some pretty big changelogs with some aspects related to general performance. So wouldn't be surprised if things would smooth out over time.
-And lastly: in general free RAM is useless RAM. It's there to be used and should improve performance if used correctly.
Hello,
I have the same problem as Trong, even if I must admit that my kiwi improved by some extent since I installed Lineage OS.
I would suggest, if still experiencing poor performance, to perform a clean installation again, wiping all data out (backing it up before hand, of course).
Doing this, I was able to enjoy my kiwi for...well, one month and something. Then it started to lag and slow down again. Maybe it depends on the fact that I updated LineageOs a couple of times, in the meanwhile.
Today, I am experiencing slowdowns, lag when I have to writ something, difficulty in passing from an app to another.
I am getting frustrated, sick and tired. It is not possible that one spends more that 250€ and experiences such a stress every single day! I don't know what to do, if not breaking this phone into pieces...
Today I just installed an app for excluding apps that execute on boot. I will give this Honor 5x one more chance before changing it for another phone.
Very frustrated, very very tired.
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An update: actually using a lightweight launcher as Envie (love it!), and NOT cleaning up RAM, improved my kiwi performance. No lags, smooth experience.
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TrongDaoTuan said:
Hey, about 2 weeks ago, I flashed LineageOS 14.1 and I expected it will be fast and smooth, but it is not... it is slower and more laggy than my previous LG G2. When I run some app or just using multitask, it is slow and laggy, sometimes it takes 10s to load Music Play. Im not sure, but I think the problem is RAM management, on EMUI I used to have about 500 - 800MB free, but on Lineage I have 100 - 300MB free, only android takes about 700 - 900MB. Do you know the solution? Thanks
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try to disable ambient display if enabled and check it whether the problem solved.
mjollnir82 said:
An update: actually using a lightweight launcher as Envie (love it!), and NOT cleaning up RAM, improved my kiwi performance. No lags, smooth experience.
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Well this is a great solution . A ported version of android O launcher is smooth and is downloaded hot, like a fresh hamburger out of oven
Lmao this ported launcher worked pretty well for last two days but later its giving force close issues .may be due to the new google app ?
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Would you say that the honor 5X is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the honor 5X exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
RAM Management is quite poor
Same issue with ram management but i have managed to get better performance with CM !
Lags from time to time
emui sucks
ahahahah
Poor ram management, app startup is not that good, emui4 made this ram management even poor. Wish this phone came with near stock android
Snapdragon really does the job. A perfect SoC for it's prize.
'Gets the job done'
I love the speed. Overall it's pretty smooth.
Moderate and no lag whatsoever. Still doing well after 18 months of usage.
ram management is poor
hassanjavaid8181 said:
ram management is poor
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Yes it was good till LP.. reduced drastically after MM and further
shashank1320 said:
Yes it was good till LP.. reduced drastically after MM and further
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Yeah I dont know whats wrong with huawei.why they cant manage a ram better.....
All they did in mm just add 500mb zram..:laugh:
Really good after a few hours of reboot. Some lags after that.
its fine..ram managemnt kills its performance
Custom ROM have way better speeds than EMUI.
Performance is very good running on stock or custom rom
It's not the fastest phone on the market, but it can definitely surprise you by the overall smoothness in mono-thread. In multi thread, EMUI kills the 3rd app launched. It reminds me of the Jelly bean era with low end phones...
And I found something even more interesting : as a mobile musician, I tried to use iGrand Piano from IK Multimedia and found out the phone has an imperceptible lag (i think it must be around 30ms max, and possibly under) which is really rare on the android market and on this price range. It's really great for choir when you want to quickly find a note. Seeing the potential, I then wanted to use an iRig Keys (mini-keys) with it but the stock firmware doesn't allow OTG. It's unfortunate because the OTG is present in the hardware. I couldn't unlock my phone because the Huawei website never wanted to give me my unlock code. So I got an Honor 9 Lite which was a lot more powerful and had OTG out of the box. What a deception : it had a latency of around 200-300ms out of the box with IK Multimedia iGrand Piano/iLectric. I tried deactivating a lot of stuff but it didn't change anything. Also, the smoothness of the screen is far inferior to the Honor 5x : it has a lot of remanence and although you can launch 50 apps without lag and everything launches 10x times faster than on the Honor 5X, the overall feeling of the screen is really crappy which is a shame for an "evolution".
I finally managed to unlock the bootloader of the Honor 5X this weekend : the Huawei website seemed to have evolved and asked for one more field than before et and it worked when I retried.
So I tried several Nougat OS 7.1.2 : Resurrction Remix, DotOS, Cosmic, and had the same lag (around 200-300ms) as on the Honor 9 Lite. I remembered it was absolutely perfect with the OEM skin on Marshmallow and decided it was more important to have low latency audio than the latest Android version. I tried a Cyanogenmod Marshmallow and a ResurrectionRemix 5.7.4 and it worked like a charm ! Around 30ms, almost imperceptible : it's less than a real organ or than my old Erard piano with bizarre insides and with which I learned the instrument.
So for you all : just check a Marshmallow custom Rom if you need low latency audio on this marvellous phone. It seemed it can be the equal or beat Nexus 6P phones and other high-end devices almost out of the box on this field.
After few months my Honor 5x was very laggy, After i did few tweaks, its now very responsive. Here i shared few tricks it may help others.
Please note i am on stock ROM without rooting.
1. Download & install "Google Go" app from playstore. (light version of "Google" app), uninstall/disable "Google app". I found significant improvement after doing this. (A restart required)
2. Install "Go" apps instead of regular ones. "Maps go", "files go", "youtube go", etc. note these are the latest light weight apps from google.
3. Disable & uninstall un necessary apps, i disabled few apps that i never used. ex: Google play books, google play games, google play movies, google play newstand, google+, Hangouts, Photos, Social Channels, etc.
4. Use only light weight apps, some suggesstions
Holo launcher, (not hola launcher)
Youtube go instead of youtube,
Pixel Music player
Focus Go (Gallery)
5. Allow only necessary apps to run on background. I only allowed whatsapp, gmail, etc. (go to phone manager->battery->protected apps to check)
Note: A restart required after.
Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
I'm on LineageOS 14.1 latest nightly and opening the dialer takes probably 1 or 2 seconds max.
It really feels like your phone has a hardware problem if wiping everything doesn't make it better.
The phone is pretty snappy in day to day use for me, not fast like a Pixel or a OP5 but still pretty damn fast.
I don't have much apps in the background either.
Consider using your warranty to see if the phone is not defective.
I have it and often switch roms. I experience lags but not as severe as yours.
EMUI is laggy, but custom roms works good with this device. Fluid enough as a daily driver. May be your hardware is getting somewhat inefficient. 5x is my first and last buy from huwaei.
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Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
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try checking developer options and check animation speed and transition speed..see if that is the problem
Abhaypraseeth said:
try checking developer options and check animation speed and transition speed..see if that is the problem
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Default setting of that is 1x. There should be no problems with that.
The 617 and 625 are more superior to 616. However, try to factory reset, if it's still the same, ask for a replacement immediately if you have warranty.
try to flash the stock rom again clearing all data and everything.. then flash a custom rom..
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try to flash the stock rom again clearing all data and everything.. then flash a custom rom..
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I believe clearing data is enough. No need to flash stock again.
Have you tried slim rom, aokp or other. Can give a try
usmanshahid said:
Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
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Can please try RR rom
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Have you tried slim rom, aokp or other. Can give a try
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Or maybe AOSiP. Using it now.
Go with Crdroid..you wont regret
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
issamel said:
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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Probably, if it has a slow read/write speed and it's full. It won't slow it that much where it's noticable
issamel said:
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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Yes only if you are accessing files that are stored on SD card.
A lower class SD card will generally have slow write/read speeds.
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Talking about lag, why would you even be on stock EMUI ROM on honor 5x? EMUI is a heavy skin for a low end SD 616 CPU.
The only way to get rid of those lags is to install a custom ROM. Period.
issamel said:
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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How about removing the sd card and test for sometimes. If it makes any difference then you got the root cause. If it doesn't then something on your firmware causing which you can test further with installing custom rom, crdroid, aosp based, slim rom, aokp etc
I am having lag in snapdragon 617!
My phone is j5 prime 32gb. It just lags whenever it gets hot, even google maps lag. After gaming for a few minutes, there would always be big framerate drop. I know that this is a throttling issue, can anyone pls help to prevent the cpu from throttling?
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My phone is j5 prime 32gb. It just lags whenever it gets hot, even google maps lag. After gaming for a few minutes, there would always be big framerate drop. I know that this is a throttling issue, can anyone pls help to prevent the cpu from throttling?
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May be use of.kernel audiotor can help here and you can limit it
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May be use of.kernel audiotor can help here and you can limit it
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Is there any ways to solve it without root?
Hello everyone!
I've been on smallEUI for a while, and I've decided that it's not worth it to keep anymore. SOT is inconsistent, there are small bugs here and there, and some major that begin to appear after a while.
I've been looking at Mokee and Ressurection Remix (sadly, author has stopped development of a buggy nougat version and moved to oreo)
I'm not looking for spectacular SOT that will blow me away. 4-5 hours is enough for me.
Stability is a huge must for me, i use my phone everyday and I need to be able to depend on it. EUI ROMs have aggressive RAM management (I have the 6gb RAM version and EUI treats it as if I only have 2gb, removing apps from RAM like my launcher). I need basic features like VoLTE and Bluetooth to work without fail.
I don't really care about safetynet, so I'm fine without that.
EDIT: I'm a fool, I said OmniROM instead of Slim. Sorry about that.
Thanks!
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Alright, I've actually installed Slim. Its superior to SmallEUI in almost every way.
Camera is almost as good as stock, no noticable difference.
Battery life is much more consistant (Expect 4 h 30m of SOT with mixed usage.)
No more crappy EUI RAM management (Its really bad, it treats 6GB of RAM like its 512MB of ram, killling any background processes, including your launcher, forcing frequent redraws)
Slim handles thermals MUCH BETTER than EUI. Way better!
Noticably faster UI, and smoother sustained performance under heavy load.
Nougat!
VoLTE works on T-Mobile US.
Fingerprint sensor works perfectly, and works faster in Slim than EUI, and more accuratly too!
Bug free so far.
And OTA updates!
This is hands down the most stable experience I've seen so far.
Better than Lineage, better than Mokee, and SmallEUI.
Go for this ROM, you won't regret it.
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Hello everyone!
I've been on smallEUI for a while, and I've decided that it's not worth it to keep anymore. SOT is inconsistent, there are small bugs here and there, and some major that begin to appear after a while.
I've been looking at Mokee and Ressurection Remix (sadly, author has stopped development of a buggy nougat version and moved to oreo)
I'm not looking for spectacular SOT that will blow me away. 4-5 hours is enough for me.
Stability is a huge must for me, i use my phone everyday and I need to be able to depend on it. EUI ROMs have aggressive RAM management (I have the 6gb RAM version and EUI treats it as if I only have 2gb, removing apps from RAM like my launcher). I need basic features like VoLTE and Bluetooth to work without fail.
I don't really care about safetynet, so I'm fine without that.
Thanks!
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Hi I'm currently using MOKEE and it's actually pretty stable. I haven't found any bugs at all but I'm not sure if VoLTE works and if you download it there will be almost everyday update but you don't have to download them because they don't change anything for our device
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Hi I'm currently using MOKEE and it's actually pretty stable. I haven't found any bugs at all but I'm not sure if VoLTE works and if you download it there will be almost everyday update but you don't have to download them because they don't change anything for our device
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Thanks!
If I were to switch to Mokee, should I download the stable version?
The nightlies seem to be auto compiled and they look really unstable.
EDIT: Also, how is SOT?
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Thanks!
If I were to switch to Mokee, should I download the stable version?
The nightlies seem to be auto compiled and they look really unstable.
EDIT: Also, how is SOT?
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It's recommend to download the stable and the nighties are almost the same so don't worry downloading them.
Also I'm not sure what do you mean by SOT.
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It's recommend to download the stable and the nighties are almost the same so don't worry downloading them.
Also I'm not sure what do you mean by SOT.
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You have never heard of the term?
I'm just kind of surprised. It means "screen on time".
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You have never heard of the term?
I'm just kind of surprised. It means "screen on time".
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I just haven't come across it but I don't have any problem SOT but I'm not a lot on my phone so I can't say a lot.
I’m in a similar position as you are. Using LOS 14. It’s been really stable. Best ROM i’ve used so far for the Le max 2. Small eui was a buggy mess when I used it. RR was good at first, but more bugs made me switch. Happily using LOS as a daily driver now.
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I’m in a similar position as you are. Using LOS 14. It’s been really stable. Best ROM i’ve used so far for the Le max 2. Small eui was a buggy mess when I used it. RR was good at first, but more bugs made me switch. Happily using LOS as a daily driver now.
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How is Lineage os in general?
Does gps work fine?
Fingerprint scanner can be fixed easily with a firmware update, so I don't mind that.
How is SOT?
Does camera quality match EUI?
Thanks!
Los if probably my favourite flavour android. RR has more options, though seems slower and more prone to issues (in my experience).
Camera is great. I've installed the Google hdr released camera app though, it's excellent.
Not too sure about sot sorry. Phone is usually around 20% when I finish the day. That's from 6am till say 10pm. I'd say average use for anyone that's on XDA.
This phone has never had good battery for me, except for small eui. But that was at the expense of an unusable rom with no SMS or push notifications working.
Finger print works perfectly.
Heyyo, for most stable? I'd say OmniROM 7 or LineageOS 14.1. They tend to not get the newest changes right away which is good for stability.
OmniROM is unique in the sense that it actually gets certified official builds signed by Google so they do come with SafetyNet Certification. It's the only custom ROM for the LeEco Le Max 2 that gets that.
Hopefully once GalacticSryder receives his Le Max 2 he can get his Mach LeEco kernel working for it and get official signed builds of Paranoid Android as that is the only other ROM that I know of that gets Google signed builds. Tbh I'm really stoked for this as I failed to port his Mach LeEco kernel haha.
Oh, if you plan on using MultiROM? OmniROM play store certification only works if you install it as the internal ROM and not secondary ROM as it mounts the system as writeable. You'd then need to do Magisk plus Universal SafetyNet fix module to spoof the Play Store.
The only downside to OmniROM is Andr68rus has moved onto Oreo development so it probably won't get Le Max 2 specific upgrades but thus far from my testing all Le Max 2 bugs have been squashed much like LineageOS 14.1.
If you want better screen on time with OmniROM or LOS? You can always root with Magisk and then install the AKT Profiles App and use something like Project X.A.N.A. balanced or battery.
If screen on time is your goal though? Slimroms I'd say currently has the best balance of screen on time and performance.
Anywho? Lots to choose from and there isn't really a wrong answer except for say the AOKP or other discontinued ROMs.
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
Sorry for the late reply.
So, I'm deciding between Lineage and Omnirom right now. Are there are basic features that differ between the two ROMs? Like included customization options or small tweaks that give the ROM it's unique personality?
It's amazing to see that a relatively not that known device has such a large and dedicated community to support it even when the company is going down under.
Thanks!
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
Sorry for the late reply.
So, I'm deciding between Lineage and Omnirom right now. Are there are basic features that differ between the two ROMs? Like included customization options or small tweaks that give the ROM it's unique personality?
It's amazing to see that a relatively not that known device has such a large and dedicated community to support it even when the company is going down under.
Thanks!
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LineageOS has weekly build updates so it does still receive the Google Monthly Security updates which is nice. It also has a lot more customization options than OmniROM
OmniROM as I mentioned is the only custom ROM for the Le Max 2 with official SafetyNet certification as a main feature. I've also noticed because of it that it's the only ROM I know of where fingerprint unlocking works with stuff like my RBC banking app.
OmniROM tends to not get as many flashy features as LineageOS but it has a few unique ones built into it such as OmniSwitch which is an alternative to the recent apps screen where it slides a small panel from the side of the screen and has the same functionality as recent apps but without the need of exiting your current app.
There's also their open source clock app as another example.
For Le Max 2 specifics? OmniROM has Dolby Atmos built into it for better sound quality and also the LeEco infrared app for using the IR blaster built into this phone so both work out of the box without the need of flashing Magisk Modules or anything like that.
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Thank you!
I will be installing Lineage OS and try it out!
Actually pulled a switcharoo at the last moment. I decided to go with Slim instead of Lineage because Lineage doesn't have VoLTE, and users report various problems with Lineage.
If anyone here is deciding on what to install, go for Slim.
Safetynet+Magisk passes safteynet, and everything is very fast.
UI and interface is really smooth, phone tempratures are much better than stock EUI, and SmallEUI
If gaming performance is your thing, expect a 20-30% increase in FPS than EUI based ROMS.
Battery life is a bit worse than EUI, but its consistent. In SmallEUI SOT would vary from almost 6 hours to as little as 1 hour and 30 minutes. Slim has a consistant 4 hour 30 min with mixed usage (Reddit, Gaming, and YouTube).
And best of all, no more annoying EUI RAM management! I have 6GB of RAM in my phone! Stop treating it like its 512MB and killing all background apps! It even killed Nova Launcher occasionally!
Slim is amazing. Simply amazing. I'm glad I made the switch now, and not later. I love it.
EDIT: I'm a fool, I said Omni instead of Slim. Sorry about that everyone.
Yep, tried them all and Omni's the best. Was worried that I'd miss functionality from EUI but everything actually works better. There's no reason at all to stick with stock roms. Do you know does Vulkan work with Omni?
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
Heyyo, yeah depending on your build of EUI ROM? It'll suck. Anything prior to 19s is definitely garbage. X821 19s was pretty good and same with x829 20s or x820 30s (albeit with ads). The best way to experience EUI ROM is CrisBalGreece modified versions.
Otherwise? I highly recommend custom ROMs. We have a lot of great Android 9 ROMs and Android 10 is pretty decent albeit with more bugs.
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so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
popoyaya said:
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
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what rom variant do you recommend? also are android 10 version stable enough or should i flash older android 9?
bluehillday said:
so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
funtikar said:
The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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so today i have instaled the first time a custom ROM,after struggling with twrp for 2hours . i have instaled AospExtended ROM V6.0 [X2] (adroid PIE) . it move more smoothly for sure,but not sure it moves this way beucase it's just a fresh rom..will way some weeks to see if it keeps up.
and about instaling a custom kerne . isn't that coming instaled with the ROM?
I have my device for nearly two years, and I am using eui 6.0.30s CBG cleaned edition since last year... I never face any kind of lag or bug except the lag caused by power save mod, which automatically enables itself when the battery goes down under %5. I think full wipe+reinstall firmware would be a great solution for you.
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
ThE_MarD said:
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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dude.. people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling. .. I never had to do that on SD800/801 phones lol...
since you are very determined that its not a bad phone , I'm taking out my Le Max 2 a second time .... hehe... I occasionally play Mobile Legends.. any other tips you can give?
Nexus 5 was SD800 and was known for overheating issues
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-overheating-problem-nexus-5/
Like I said, the main thing would be to switch to a custom ROM that has Android Pie and is decently updated. Most of those pie custom ROMs will have pretty decent thermals while still delivering decent performance.
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
I found turning on "Mobile data always active" in the developer options massively improved performance in my apps (at least where online load times and download speeds in-game were concerned)
Did you just get your phone recently? After setting up this phone for the first time, I also noticed the device was extremely slow, with all the app and software updates happening in the background. After all the updates were installed, I turned the phone off for about a day, and performance went to normal. It's not as fast as a flagship and there are minor hiccups here and there, but that's about what I expected from a 400 series SoC.
My original report was the day after I set everything up, I disabled the permissions for the launcher which did improve the responsiveness of the launcher, but application performance and launch times are still slow compared to my old device and not what I would expect from a phone of this spec.
I'm pretty confident this phone is a victim of oneplus' recently reported throttling for battery life. I was curious and compared geekbench scores (which aren't throttled under oneplus' list) and both the nord and my oneplus 5 got fairly similar scores for both cpu and compute. I tried out a browser benchmark motionmark which benches graphics performance. The nord got a 25 and the oneplus 5 got a 189... I ran the test again to make sure but got similar results.
That graphics should be coming from gpu and not cpu though....
I tested cpu and compute on geekbench, compute is a measure of gpu performance. The nord scored a little higher than the 5 in that.
I would assume oneplus' throttling would effect cpu and gpu but even if not, my oneplus 5 scoring almost 8x as high does not seem anywhere near normal
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I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
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Same experience here, i picked up this phone expecting at least a decent experience but still get bad slow not usable for everyday tasks sometimes.
Im not expecting a flagship performance of course but this is far from decent in my experience.
I hope android 12 will solve many performance issues. Or custom fw
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. Did not expect so weak dev community activity. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
zaooza said:
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
zaooza said:
Did not expect so weak dev community activity.
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You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
Metconnect2000 said:
Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Other than pictures from the camera being degraded compared to stock and having to install apps from the Play Store/changing a few settings in the Settings app, everything seems to work fine