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I've been wondering which GS3 to buy, the 16gb or 32gb model? I would usually go with the 16gb as there's the option of using an external sd card anyway, however, the phone performance is better with apps installed on internal memory and also there are still apps in the market that don't get transferred to the sd card. Another concern is the size of apps that keep growing everyday (I think now min. is 4gb) such as amazing games launched recently (e.g. Nova 3) and since this is a beast of a phone, and I'm planning to keep it for the next 2 yrs, I was wondering if 16gb would suffice?!!
Any thoughts from anyone would be appreciated.
Be greedy and go for more, why settle for less?
16Gb is more than enough for just apps, plus you get up to 64Gb extra for external storage. Also, you can only get the 32Gb version in the UK if your on Vodafone, otherwise you have to wait a month.
I just cancelled my pre-order so that i can get the 64GB version
I have a feeling that it may not be available
I have a bad feeling that 64gb is a myth.. Even if its not, most likely its in aug or sept.
As I got it, 32GB version will be available in UK from Vodafone only, for a month. Other countries do not fall into that.
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Some German stores say they will have 32 GB version at the end of May
http://www.preissuchmaschine.de/in-Handy-ohne-Vertrag/Smartphone/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-I9300-32GB.html
Never really bothered me about internal storage if there is a Micro SD slot and that basically gives you infinite storage. Though personally I never filled up my GS2 storage of 16GB, I don't keep useless albums and just pick my songs so I only had like 2GB of songs. I find apps on the Android market to be really poor compared to what is on IOS so I barely played any games. When I do play games I just realise how **** the touch screen is for control and want proper buttons lol. With dropbox giving me 50GB free and having unlimited data on 3 I just put all my pirated Windows software on there lol.
I really don't care, I'm happy with the 16GB. Enough for apps.
As for movies/music/pictures, that's what I'm buying a 32GB Micro SDHC for. q
with the amount of flashing I do the 16gb one is fine for me as I only store my things on the external sd card
people always misleading by MicroSD extension.
You cannot increase internal storage by MicroSD. You will just add one more storage. But since most applications know only about one storage, they will continue use only internal storage. All games put their caches to /sdcard which is internal storage.
of course, it's still possible to hack games and change path /sdcard to /sdcard/external_sd. Some hacks allow to swap internal and external storages permanently.
This is android, and many tweaks possible. But if you plan to use phone as just regular user then you should know that internal storage won't be extended by adding MicroSD.
Actually, I use MicroSD in my SGSII just for media such as photos (made by SGSII camera), video, music. All applications related files are on internal storage. In this scenario, 16gb of internal storage for me is not enough, so i bought 32gb version. And i can easily swap microsd without loosing functionality, since all data are in internal.
A Galaxy S3 16GB is £500, the Galaxy S3 32GB is mostly going to be around £600.
You may as well go to Amazon and purchase the 64gb micro sd card from Sandisk class 10 for £55 and have 80GB. I mean seriously, 80GB is enough to be fair.
I guess the real question is how much faster is the nand/internal storage Vs Sandisk MicroSDXC?
Would the difference actually be noticeable in day to day use as a non dev
I don't mean off the cuff comments like its faster etc
I would like to see actual facts & figures.
I am going to buy 32GB version for storing Apps, games, videos and lots other things. Then after buying phone if i buy 16gb version, I feel annoying if i need more capacity, buying a memory card putting it in my phone. Its better to have 32gb version.
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You may as well go to Amazon and purchase the 64gb micro sd card from Sandisk class 10 for £55.
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Or £45 from Play.
funb0b said:
I guess the real question is how much faster is the nand/internal storage Vs Sandisk MicroSDXC?
Would the difference actually be noticeable in day to day use as a non dev
I don't mean off the cuff comments like its faster etc
I would like to see actual facts & figures.
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Following on from this, I found a nice little review of Sandisk's 64Gb MicroSDXC
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/04/01/review-sandisk-64gb-microsdxc-card-huge-capacity-meets-impressive-speeds/
Going for a full powerhouse,,Galaxy S3 launching here in India on 31st,,will be going for 64GB version w/o a doubt if available else 32GB & last and least preferable is 16GB
I'm getting 16GB with 32GB MicroSD card.
ASD007 said:
I've been wondering which GS3 to buy, the 16gb or 32gb model? I would usually go with the 16gb as there's the option of using an external sd card anyway, however, the phone performance is better with apps installed on internal memory and also there are still apps in the market that don't get transferred to the sd card. Another concern is the size of apps that keep growing everyday (I think now min. is 4gb) such as amazing games launched recently (e.g. Nova 3) and since this is a beast of a phone, and I'm planning to keep it for the next 2 yrs, I was wondering if 16gb would suffice?!!
Any thoughts from anyone would be appreciated.
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Actually performance on my SGS2 was better with my class 4 32gb Sandisk Card than the internal storage.
16gb is more than enough for apps,
Its more than suitable for the next 2 years
JD
I have a 64GB SDXC on the way from Hong Kong. I have preordered the SGS3 16GB version.
80GB will be enough for me since I don't use my phone to listen to music. I listen to music all the time, so I want to have a dedicated player for that. And I really love the sound quality of my rockboxed Sansa Clip Zip. For mega-ultra-super emergencies (mp3 player battery empty) I have a Subsonic music server setup so I can stream my music from my HTPC at home which is turned on 24/7, so that's my failsafe.
internal storage
I nearly bought a 16G one today, but then held my temptation as I wasn't sure about the requirements for this bigger phone. Some are right that apps are getting bigger and bigger. On the other hand I keep all the media on the card. On my s2 half of int storage is still free after a year, so unless someone advices that with this kind of usage and for apps etc 16G is not enough ; I guess I should go for the 16G. Any comments folks?
Over the years I've owned about every brand of cards from eBay cheapo's to the best the industry has to offer like Samsung. I shoot HD wedding videos, take millions of pictures and edit so micro SD cards have been a necessity.
It just dawned on me today when I was looking at the mountain of SD cards I have in my office and realizing the life span on all the cards I've used over the years. Therefore, I'd like to share my experience along with asking those who are knowledgeable in the area of memory cards to help answer some of my questions.
I shoot HD videos and take lots of pictures on my Note 3 so having a reliable card is very important to me. Currently I'm locked and loaded with a 64GB | Class 10 | SanDisk microSDXC UHS-I card in my Note 3. (I also have a Samsung 64GB PRO Micro SDXC | Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MG64DA/AM), which I use in my Canon Video Camera and it is by far the best card out there. Period.)
The 6 most reliable cards that I've owned throughout the years: (Best to Worst)
Samsung
A-Data (Samsung chip, go figure. However, they are highly likely Samsungs '2nd hand' chips as they are not as fast as the actual Samsung brand labeled chips.)
PNY
SanDisk
Kingston / Sony (tie)
Transcend
It's not worth listing the other non-brand ebay junk so I've left those out.
Lately, I've been very disappointed with SanDisk's quality. Especially with their Class 10 cards, where I have found them to have a very weak 'integrity' in their chips. A good card should give you about a million write cycles. (Write cycles is a whole another can of worms...)
I have had more failed SanDisk's (lemons) cards than any other brands combined. This is why I will never buy SanDisk again and am switching to what has never failed me, Samsung. I can't afford the chaos and hate having to recover priceless wedding pictures from a card who decides to kick the bucket when you need it the most.
Recently my 64GB | Class 10 | SanDisk in my Note 3 decided to go belly up and I had to use a data recovering software to salvage all my 4,000 pictures and hundreds of HD video's. WTH right? This card is a couple months old. My previous SanDisk in my old Note 2 did the same thing after a couple of months.
ME, MYSELF AND MICRO SD CARDS...
With a new card I reformat it to Fat32 with Disk Utility (Mac) and then pop it in my device.
Since I take a lot of pictures / videos, I connect my phone to my computer (Android File Transfer, works flawlessly on Mac), copy over everything to my hard drive, back it up again if it's important and then properly eject the phone/card. I've always read and heard from camera guru's that it's best to reformat your card from the device instead of deleting the pictures in the folder from your computer while it's still connected. Therefore, after copying over the pictures/videos I would immediately eject and delete directly from the phone. The 'theory' surrounding this is that if you leave your card connected to your computer, it will access (checking byte order/changes) the directory more times than you would want it to thereby decreasing the life expectancy of the card.
Now of course it's not convenient or practical by no means to do this every day with your Note 3...most people just plug in and play with no problems whatsoever throughout the life of the card.
QUESTIONS FOR THE GEEKS
Explain the difference in the structural integrity of the internal SD card vs external SD card.
How much more life expectancy / write cycles does the internal card have vs an external card?
For a heavy user like me I have always put everything on the external card to avoid using the internal memory as much as possible avoiding unnecessary stress.
How often should the external card be reformatted for a heavy user like me where I'm constantly copying over, deleting, etc...
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I don’t know about card in deep technically but all I learned so far, generally cards these days have very long life span, at least average 10 years, unless physically damaged or any uncommon technical issues.
I too concerned about this too earlier but now technology is so fast upgrading you shouldn’t worry about its life span. Technically what I know its life span also depends on it read and writings like you said and even if your car had heavy use then there is no point to formatting it frequently. Card is not like windows which creates junk files by time. Deleting and formatting does the same thing and both will free up same space if you delete all, where formatting read or write more data than deleting. So formatting frequently could reduce its life but that could be unnoticeable. The same way defragmenting, shredding also reduces its life. But shredding is good if I lost it any other couldn’t restores any private files.
So I think there have no logic to format it frequently to keep it healthy, unless its corrupted.
By technology is so fast upgrading what I mean is like, few years back I brought a new phone and brought the best card at that time, it was Samsung 32GB class 6. It was best on the market during that time. But then class 10, pro, plus released. Then when I got note 3 I had already a 32 GB card but I brought a class 10 pro one due to the HD recording. So after 5 years from now even if this card is working I will still have to buy a new one, as there will be far better technically upgraded one. I hope I make sense.
And I too use Internal memory very less, as loads on internal memory make the phone slower.
Thanks for the reply. I agree that with a decent name brand of a card, the life expectancy shouldn't be too much of a worry. My experience with SanDisk has been pretty poor in that I don't think they make cards with good quality material. As mentioned, the structural integrity is very weak. Their older cards were better. The newer ones in my opinion and from my experience have to be treated with a mentality of 5 years ago, because they do wear noticeably.
soumen.sam said:
I don’t know about card in deep technically but all I learned so far, generally cards these days have very long life span, at least average 10 years, unless physically damaged or any uncommon technical issues.
I too concerned about this too earlier but now technology is so fast upgrading you shouldn’t worry about its life span. Technically what I know its life span also depends on it read and writings like you said and even if your car had heavy use then there is no point to formatting it frequently. Card is not like windows which creates junk files by time. Deleting and formatting does the same thing and both will free up same space if you delete all, where formatting read or write more data than deleting. So formatting frequently could reduce its life but that could be unnoticeable. The same way defragmenting, shredding also reduces its life. But shredding is good if I lost it any other couldn’t restores any private files.
So I think there have no logic to format it frequently to keep it healthy, unless its corrupted.
By technology is so fast upgrading what I mean is like, few years back I brought a new phone and brought the best card at that time, it was Samsung 32GB class 6. It was best on the market during that time. But then class 10, pro, plus released. Then when I got note 3 I had already a 32 GB card but I brought a class 10 pro one due to the HD recording. So after 5 years from now even if this card is working I will still have to buy a new one, as there will be far better technically upgraded one. I hope I make sense.
And I too use Internal memory very less, as loads on internal memory make the phone slower.
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I know that feel of losing data, I have had 3 64 GB SanDisk cards die since January - right now I am using a 8GB. sad n true
Wow, sorry to hear. That sucks. Then again, you've verified my point even further about how crappy SanDisk cards have become.
Let your next card be a Samsung. I'm weeding out my stock of cards, heck I've given some away already.
Here's the best: Samsung 64GB PRO Micro SDXC | Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MG64DA/AM)
I use it in my Canon and it's extremely fast.
marquis.hagetaka said:
I know that feel of losing data, I have had 3 64 GB SanDisk cards die since January - right now I am using a 8GB. sad n true
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iunlock said:
Wow, sorry to hear. That sucks. Then again, you've verified my point even further about how crappy SanDisk cards have become.
Let your next card be a Samsung. I'm weeding out my stock of cards, heck I've given some away already.
Here's the best: Samsung 64GB PRO Micro SDXC | Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MG64DA/AM)
I use it in my Canon and it's extremely fast.
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That Samsung card sounds impressive, just not ready to spend any more monies on getting one right now.
off subject are you still in Honolulu..
iunlock said:
Thanks for the reply. I agree that with a decent name brand of a card, the life expectancy shouldn't be too much of a worry. My experience with SanDisk has been pretty poor in that I don't think they make cards with good quality material. As mentioned, the structural integrity is very weak. Their older cards were better. The newer ones in my opinion and from my experience have to be treated with a mentality of 5 years ago, because they do wear noticeably.
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I never used any SanDisk card on phone, only Samsung cards so I’ve no personal experience and I’ve seen many user complains about its compatibility and issues on Samsung device. However I’ve been using a SanDisk high-speed MMC card on my Nikon SLR over last 5 years and still its performing great.
I believe Samsung cards works great in Samsung devices. So far only one card got damaged many years back and that was a stock Nokia card.
I currently have a 64gb sandisk class 10 in my phone I always used sandisk and never had a issue. I can't say the same for kingston. I found out it doesn't mess up when you unmount it when taking it out. I never did that before and they got messed up even if it did get messed up warranty is always there.
currently using the sandisk extreme plus 64gb card with no issues whatsoever. will update this thread once it crap out on me (it probably will in about 6 months) and how the warranty process goes.
I had a 32Gb Sandisk Extreme die in my Galaxy Note 3 while recording 4k video on to it.
Without a compatibility list and guarantee from Samsung, I am reluctant to buy another high end microsd card.
I am sick of these SD Cards. In my Galaxy S3, the thing would ocassionally take a dump and have to be reformatted.
Now I just restarted the Note 3, and boom, card took a dump.
I think I'm going to just live without.
Sandisk has always been reliable for me, apparently there are only 4-5 chip manufacture, and majority of a-data's card are rebadged from sandisk, same goes with transcends, whiles kingston are with toshiba, and PNY is a mix of sandisk and toshiba.
For data recovery and/or SD card repair, had anyone given Spin Rite a try?
I've been using a UHS-I 16GB Team card in my phone, been pretty reliable so far and gets pretty quick read/write speeds. Also been using a 32GB UHS-I Samsung card in my Sony NEX-5T camera, also been having no issues.
Just had my first Warranty experience with SanDisk. My 64 Gig SanDisk Ultra had crapped out by not allowing any write cycle this would not allow for deleting files or format or any changes to card. After a brief chat session on the SanDisk website I had my RMA and got emailed a label to print. My old card was off to SanDisk. 10 days later the new card arrived. This was a good warranty experience. Hope the new card will have more writes.
minoch said:
Just had my first Warranty experience with SanDisk. My 64 Gig SanDisk Ultra had crapped out by not allowing any write cycle this would not allow for deleting files or format or any changes to card. After a brief chat session on the SanDisk website I had my RMA and got emailed a label to print. My old card was off to SanDisk. 10 days later the new card arrived. This was a good warranty experience. Hope the new card will have more writes.
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I'm glad I'm not alone on this. I have my first 64GB microSD on Jan last year. I chose Sandisk because I believe many of tech experts favor them over every other brand. At the time I wasn't at all concerned about its lifespan because I am using it for such a simple task like music storage. By the end of Dec last year, the card refuses to write and format. Folks at Sandisk forum suggested to use SDFormatter, however if you get "write protected" error, your card is not repairable, they say.
I was lucky to get a new one so close to the end of my one-year warranty. But seeing Sandisk cards are getting less reliable these days, I might give Samsung a try if my Sandisk fails again.
Quick question, though: where else does Samsung evo and pro differs beside speed? Does pro have longer lifespan?
Interesting. I've been using Sandisk for well over 10 years in everything from my DSLRs to my phones, never had a single card die on me.
I have owned 3 64GB Samsung MicroSD's over 2014 and they all died within two months.
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Interesting. I've been using Sandisk for well over 10 years in everything from my DSLRs to my phones, never had a single card die on me.
I have owned 3 64GB Samsung MicroSD's over 2014 and they all died within two months.
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I agree with you, sandisk is probably the most reliable brand available.
Been using sandisk when the first had them as transflash.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADATA
iunlock said:
Over the years I've owned about every brand of cards from eBay cheapo's to the best the industry has to offer like Samsung. I shoot HD wedding videos, take millions of pictures and edit so micro SD cards have been a necessity.
It just dawned on me today when I was looking at the mountain of SD cards I have in my office and realizing the life span on all the cards I've used over the years. Therefore, I'd like to share my experience along with asking those who are knowledgeable in the area of memory cards to help answer some of my questions.
I shoot HD videos and take lots of pictures on my Note 3 so having a reliable card is very important to me. Currently I'm locked and loaded with a 64GB | Class 10 | SanDisk microSDXC UHS-I card in my Note 3. (I also have a Samsung 64GB PRO Micro SDXC | Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MG64DA/AM), which I use in my Canon Video Camera and it is by far the best card out there. Period.)
The 6 most reliable cards that I've owned throughout the years: (Best to Worst)
Samsung
A-Data (Samsung chip, go figure. However, they are highly likely Samsungs '2nd hand' chips as they are not as fast as the actual Samsung brand labeled chips.)
PNY
SanDisk
Kingston / Sony (tie)
Transcend
It's not worth listing the other non-brand ebay junk so I've left those out.
Lately, I've been very disappointed with SanDisk's quality. Especially with their Class 10 cards, where I have found them to have a very weak 'integrity' in their chips. A good card should give you about a million write cycles. (Write cycles is a whole another can of worms...)
I have had more failed SanDisk's (lemons) cards than any other brands combined. This is why I will never buy SanDisk again and am switching to what has never failed me, Samsung. I can't afford the chaos and hate having to recover priceless wedding pictures from a card who decides to kick the bucket when you need it the most.
Recently my 64GB | Class 10 | SanDisk in my Note 3 decided to go belly up and I had to use a data recovering software to salvage all my 4,000 pictures and hundreds of HD video's. WTH right? This card is a couple months old. My previous SanDisk in my old Note 2 did the same thing after a couple of months.
ME, MYSELF AND MICRO SD CARDS...
With a new card I reformat it to Fat32 with Disk Utility (Mac) and then pop it in my device.
Since I take a lot of pictures / videos, I connect my phone to my computer (Android File Transfer, works flawlessly on Mac), copy over everything to my hard drive, back it up again if it's important and then properly eject the phone/card. I've always read and heard from camera guru's that it's best to reformat your card from the device instead of deleting the pictures in the folder from your computer while it's still connected. Therefore, after copying over the pictures/videos I would immediately eject and delete directly from the phone. The 'theory' surrounding this is that if you leave your card connected to your computer, it will access (checking byte order/changes) the directory more times than you would want it to thereby decreasing the life expectancy of the card.
Now of course it's not convenient or practical by no means to do this every day with your Note 3...most people just plug in and play with no problems whatsoever throughout the life of the card.
QUESTIONS FOR THE GEEKS
Explain the difference in the structural integrity of the internal SD card vs external SD card.
How much more life expectancy / write cycles does the internal card have vs an external card?
For a heavy user like me I have always put everything on the external card to avoid using the internal memory as much as possible avoiding unnecessary stress.
How often should the external card be reformatted for a heavy user like me where I'm constantly copying over, deleting, etc...
To be continued...
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Lifespan? Didn't know they were supposed to "die", or even wear out, and stop working eventually. Been using this same SD card for the past 2 years, and works like the first day I got it.
Today i received a 64gb Samsung pro micro sd cats i had purchased from amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KRDHRMO/ref=twister_B00K19DH6E?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 however upon benchmarking it with A1 SD bench app i noticed i got lower numbers than i did with my 64gb evo card which was around half the price and advertised with lower speeds.
I consistently got around 38mb read and 20-21mb write on the evo however with the pro i am getting around 34mb read and 20-21mb write. I have seen others on here get 70+mb read and around 60mb write with the same micro sd benchmarked with the same app.
Anyone got any idea of what's going on?
Need some advice guys, i need to know what's up with the micro sd before i call Amazon and accuse them of sending me a fake or faulty card
I don't know what is going on with your micro SD card. All I can offer you is my story. I bought a Samsung 64 GB Pro microSD from Wal-Mart and it was DOA. Returned it and bought one from Best Buy which worked 100%.
I know sometimes there's just a defective item, but here's what I noticed about the differences in packaging:
1. With the item I bought from Best Buy, the main graphic at the top of the package was in a brilliant blue color. The main image on the Wal-Mart item was greyscale.
2. The blurb on the front of the package stating how fast the read/write speeds on the Wal-Mart package was twice as large as the font on the item I bought from Best Buy.
I don't know if Samsung uses different packaging to differentiate selling through different stores/channels or if Wal-Mart got a batch of counterfeit product. I don't know if this story applies to your situation or not, but I need to buy a new card for a new tablet showing up in a few days & for sure I won't be buying it at Wal-Mart.
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I don't know what is going on with your micro SD card. All I can offer you is my story. I bought a Samsung 64 GB Pro microSD from Wal-Mart and it was DOA. Returned it and bought one from Best Buy which worked 100%.
I know sometimes there's just a defective item, but here's what I noticed about the differences in packaging:
1. With the item I bought from Best Buy, the main graphic at the top of the package was in a brilliant blue color. The main image on the Wal-Mart item was greyscale.
2. The blurb on the front of the package stating how fast the read/write speeds on the Wal-Mart package was twice as large as the font on the item I bought from Best Buy.
I don't know if Samsung uses different packaging to differentiate selling through different stores/channels or if Wal-Mart got a batch of counterfeit product. I don't know if this story applies to your situation or not, but I need to buy a new card for a new tablet showing up in a few days & for sure I won't be buying it at Wal-Mart.
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My sd card came in Amazon's frustration free packaging so i am unable to check if the packaging matched your micro sd from best buy, it's troubling that there are so many fake micro sd cards around.
Have you ran a benchmark on your phone/tablet using the a1 sd app? It would be interesting to know what you're getting as i can't seem to get higher than 34-35mb read and 21mb write despite it being advertised as 90mb read and 80mb write, i know I'm unlikely to ever reach those numbers but i was expecting more than what I'm currently getting.
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Have you ran a benchmark on your phone/tablet using the a1 sd app? It would be interesting to know what you're getting as i can't seem to get higher than 34-35mb read and 21mb write despite it being advertised as 90mb read and 80mb write, i know I'm unlikely to ever reach those numbers but i was expecting more than what I'm currently getting.
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I ran the A1 SD app on both my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and my Galaxy S5 which both have Samsung Pro SD cards and didn't achieve much higher benchmarks than you did. This is because of the limitations of the SD controller chip in nearly all phones and tablets. These devices don't need those kinds of speeds that are the upper end of these Pro cards. You'll need something like a high-end DSLR camera if you wish to take full advantage of these cards.
I saw some of the posted results on the community page for A1 and a lot of those high results look suspect. I only bought the Pro cards myself because they weren't much more than the Evo ones and I may use them in a high speed device someday. My main attraction to Samsung SD cards was that they are water-proof, X-Ray-proof, and magnetic-proof.
Bottom line, I don't think there's anything wrong with the Pro card you bought, but you didn't gain any speed benefits upgrading from your Evo card due to hardware limitations of your device(s).
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I ran the A1 SD app on both my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and my Galaxy S5 which both have Samsung Pro SD cards and didn't achieve much higher benchmarks than you did. This is because of the limitations of the SD controller chip in nearly all phones and tablets. These devices don't need those kinds of speeds that are the upper end of these Pro cards. You'll need something like a high-end DSLR camera if you wish to take full advantage of these cards.
I saw some of the posted results on the community page for A1 and a lot of those high results look suspect. I only bought the Pro cards myself because they weren't much more than the Evo ones and I may use them in a high speed device someday. My main attraction to Samsung SD cards was that they are water-proof, X-Ray-proof, and magnetic-proof.
Bottom line, I don't think there's anything wrong with the Pro card you bought, but you didn't gain any speed benefits upgrading from your Evo card due to hardware limitations of your device(s).
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Well that sucks, i mainly purchased it for my tablet and will most likely never use it in anything else (other than maybe a phone) but the pro cost me twice the price of the evo.
Is it possible that the benchmark results we are getting with the a1 app are false? I ask because if they are accurate then the cheaper evo card is actually faster, 10 out of 10 times the evo consistently gave me higher results which doesn't really make sense even if the phone/tablet was limiting it, surely it should have been at least the same speed?
If the app and the pro card i received isn't to blame then i think people should know the evo performs better on their phones and tablets.
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I am looking to buy a MicroSD card - 64Gb or 128Gb (if the price is right) and am looking for recommendations. I had purchased a cheap, generic 64Gb card., which worked fine out of box. Within a month it began to have errors and finally failed.
My goal is to use this as media storage - books and comics mostly. So speed is not an essential requirement.
Anyone have any suggestions?
I've been using this Samsung Evo Class 64GB Micro SDXC Card since the tablet was released. It seems to have decent speed and I haven't had any problems with it yet. There's also the Pro version for an extra $20 that apparently does 90 MB/s.
MidgetMob said:
I've been using this Samsung Evo Class 64GB Micro SDXC Card since the tablet was released. It seems to have decent speed and I haven't had any problems with it yet. There's also the Pro version for an extra $20 that apparently does 90 MB/s.
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Thanks, @MidgetMob, that seems to be the way to go. Grateful for your advice.
Just ordered the 64gb Evo Pro.
koop1955 said:
I am looking to buy a MicroSD card - 64Gb or 128Gb (if the price is right) and am looking for recommendations. I had purchased a cheap, generic 64Gb card., which worked fine out of box. Within a month it began to have errors and finally failed.
My goal is to use this as media storage - books and comics mostly. So speed is not an essential requirement.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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By and far, the 64GB G.SKILL microSD is one of the best out there, with amazing speeds, a stellar lifetime warranty, and a ridiculously low price ($24 for the next 72 Hours). You will never have to worry about your card failing since it will be replaced even if it fails five years from now. And it absolutely blows the EVO out of the water in terms of speed. Testing with A1 SD Bench on my Shield Tablet, I'm getting 72.00MB/s Read & 38.64MB/s Write with mine. I store almost all the significantly large apps on the microSD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231652&cm_re=microsd-_-20-231-652-_-Product
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By and far, the 64GB G.SKILL microSD is one of the best out there, with amazing speeds, a stellar lifetime warranty, and a ridiculously low price ($24 for the next 72 Hours). You will never have to worry about your card failing since it will be replaced even if it fails five years from now. And it absolutely blows the EVO out of the water in terms of speed. Testing with A1 SD Bench on my Shield Tablet, I'm getting 72.00MB/s Read & 38.64MB/s Write with mine. I store almost all the significantly large apps on the microSD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231652&cm_re=microsd-_-20-231-652-_-Product
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That's a nice price for 64GB. As for the warranty, the Evo is 5 years. Of course it's not as good as a lifetime warranty, however 5 years isn't bad either imo.
Reads and writes are quite nice, but how are the IOPS?
I did pick up and have been using a Samsung and it has worked fine. But at that price, I think that I will grab a G.Skill as well. (Can't have too much tech!)
Thanks, everyone!
MidgetMob said:
That's a nice price for 64GB. As for the warranty, the Evo is 5 years. Of course it's not as good as a lifetime warranty, however 5 years isn't bad either imo.
Reads and writes are quite nice, but how are the IOPS?
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Isn't MB/s to IOPS a straight conversion? Not sure about 4K Read/Writes since A1 doesn't include it in testing, and not sure what utility is best for testing on Ubuntu. And not sure if the card reader would provide reliable results given its age.
I'm testing copying over files to test write speeds. I copied over 3.92GB of files (4,214,000 Bytes) in 284 seconds from the internal storage to the G.SKILL (AVG: 14.15MB/s). There were probably slight lapses due to copying multiple files, however. Tried copying a single 429MB file (450,687,000 Bytes), and it took 19 seconds (AVG: 22.6MB/s).
I'm looking for either a 128gb or 256gb micro sd card and I want to have the same experience as using the internal storage for recording 4k/superslowmo and using apps on sd cards.
But I don't want to overspend either, I don't know up to what speeds/classes the phone can utilize.
There's cards like Samsung evo plus 128gb for 60euro, cards like lexar 1000x 128gb at 95 euro with UHS II Bus all kinds of things I got lost in the sea of classes and speeds.
What cards did you guys get and can anyone recommend me something?
I use sandisk ultra 200 gb and no problem @all with 4k
I got a samsung evo select 128gb and it is pretty damn snappy.
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I got a samsung evo select 128gb and it is pretty damn snappy.
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I use that also.. I think... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CO48M36/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Up to 95MB/s Read and 90MB/s Write speed with Class 10 and U3 compatibility
that was the fastest card available when I bought it, nothing was faster with high storage. I see 256gb cards now but haven't really looked into any or the specs
I got Samsung Evo+ 128 GB UHS-I U3 (100 MB/s read, 90 MB/s write) for 55 euros (just google MB-MC128GA/EU - NL Samsung site for this card) . There is also 128 GB Adata Premier One UHS-II with read 275 MB/s, write 155 MB/s for ~150 USD. 256 GB version is for 289 USD (amazon) - dunno why, but in Czech it is for ~210$ ^^. In your case, I would go for Samsung
Got the Samsung one now
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What cards did you guys get and can anyone recommend me something?
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I'd recommend the SanDisk Ultra 200 GB MicroSDXC UHS-I Memory Card as a good balance between capability, capacity and cost.
Regards,
Kevin
Sony 128GB UHS-I Class 10 SDXC
I purchased Sony 128GB UHS-I Class 10 SDXC Memory Card (SR-G1UY3A). Performance is simply awesome. It cost me Rs 5k.
I'm disappointed with XZP's sdcard access speeds, especially when the sdcard encryption is enabled. With my Samsung Evo+ 256Gb I got the following speeds:
About 7Mb/s read/write (with enabled encryption)
And about 70/40Mb/s (read/write) with disabled encryption.
What real speeds have you got?
100MB/s & 90MB/s read & write speeds Evo Select 45 USD http://a.co/3sYajyC
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I'm disappointed with XZP's sdcard access speeds, especially when the sdcard encryption is enabled. With my Samsung Evo+ 256Gb I got the following speeds:
About 7Mb/s read/write (with enabled encryption)
And about 70/40Mb/s (read/write) with disabled encryption.
What real speeds have you got?
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Is this still a problem? I prefer to always have my stuff encrypted and had this same issue, so slow it's almost unusable. Wondering if any of the updates or anything have fixed this issue or not.
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Is this still a problem? I prefer to always have my stuff encrypted and had this same issue, so slow it's almost unusable. Wondering if any of the updates or anything have fixed this issue or not.
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Yes, it's still a problem in Oreo. I have up to 10mb/s with enabled encryption.
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Yes, it's still a problem in Oreo. I have up to 10mb/s with enabled encryption.
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Have you tried any other micro SDs or just the Samsung Evo+? I was thinking about getting the 2017 one, Samsung Evo Plus 256GB, but it seems like it will probably be the same, I think the only difference between that 2016 version is 10MB/s on Read speed. Would be interesting to see if certain cards do better than others, I would like to know if a A1 rated card also has this problem.
Hey guys. Thanks for all the helpful input. What would you say is the primary benefit of the additional storage of a 128GB to 256GB SD Card? I feel like on other phones without expandable memory, I never really reach capacity on 64GB models. So I probably used more cloud storage out of necessity and just got used to it. What are you guys using all this glorious storage for?
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Hey guys. Thanks for all the helpful input. What would you say is the primary benefit of the additional storage of a 128GB to 256GB SD Card? I feel like on other phones without expandable memory, I never really reach capacity on 64GB models. So I probably used more cloud storage out of necessity and just got used to it. What are you guys using all this glorious storage for?
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4k por... Oops I mean scientific ebooks etc.
All jokes aside... Having that bit of extra storage can give you the freedom to record, capture and download as you please!
Especially for people like me who hardly use online storage. I have the Samsung Evo Plus 256gb (2017 version) and I have so many 4k HDR10 movies and documentaries stored on it. I also dont have to worry about running out of space by constantly shooting 4k videos.
Having higher storage takes away all the limitations of having to transfer your files whenever you need to download new material.
I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write even though the Micro SD card is capable of achieving higher speeds. This is due to the phone and I hope that android will find a way around this with upcoming updates, unless it's a hardware issue of course.
These speeds are more than enough for regular everyday use as I haven't faced any issues with reading/writing colossal files.
Hope this helps
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4k por... Oops I mean scientific ebooks etc.
All jokes aside... Having that bit of extra storage can give you the freedom to record, capture and download as you please!
Especially for people like me who hardly use online storage. I have the Samsung Evo Plus 256gb (2017 version) and I have so many 4k HDR10 movies and documentaries stored on it. I also dont have to worry about running out of space by constantly shooting 4k videos.
Having higher storage takes away all the limitations of having to transfer your files whenever you need to download new material.
I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write even though the Micro SD card is capable of achieving higher speeds. This is due to the phone and I hope that android will find a way around this with upcoming updates, unless it's a hardware issue of course.
These speeds are more than enough for regular everyday use as I haven't faced any issues with reading/writing colossal files.
Hope this helps
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You had me at 4k por... LOL. But seriously, I have never even seen 4K video let alone shot in 4K, so I am looking forward to checking it out on this glorious screen. Still think I may only opt for 200GB unless I find a really good deal (I will check the model you listed above). Doubt I will be able to even fill that but who knows. LOL. Thanks again.
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...I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write...
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Just to verify, you don't have encryption enabled for the microSD card correct?
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Just to verify, you don't have encryption enabled for the microSD card correct?
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Yes that is correct. My internal storage is encrypted and the micro sd card isn't.
I have a toshiba sd card 128 bought on alyexprees for 42 euro its working beautiful even in 4k whit evo plus i have some problems in my other phones and 360 camera(also the 128 version.) and i had to give it to my wife she has an samsung phone and not really a heavy user. Even in speed toshiba has beeten samsung .
Original TOSHIBA 128GB SDXC Micro SD
If you want i will search the link and send over
Hey guys. Can someone please give me their thoughts on the MicroSD card linked below? Thinking of buying but not sure I need 256GB and the price is pretty reasonable on this 200GB. Thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/B00V62XBQQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1512495531&sr=1-4&keywords=256gb+micro+sd+card&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A13203835011