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At present I have a HTC one and an Xperia Z Ultra. Wondering whether to get a htc one max and sell my other phones or sell both and get a note 3 or keep the Xperia z ultra and sell the HTC one. I'm unsure does anyone have some advice other suggestions etc please help.
just my opinion
If you prefer performance, then keep ZU or sell for Note 3
If you are not really care about performance, just choose your ideal phone
There are so many factors can change your mind, it could be performance, screen size or phone body, etc.
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At present I have a HTC one and an Xperia Z Ultra. Wondering whether to get a htc one max and sell my other phones or sell both and get a note 3 or keep the Xperia z ultra and sell the HTC one. I'm unsure does anyone have some advice other suggestions etc please help.
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Keeping in mind that I'm heavily One Max biased, This is an extremely capable device. Gorgeous fullHD screen + front facing stereo speakers (sound is to die for!) = Mini Home Theater. Runs super smooth, never hiccups. My battery lasts a full day. I thought having only SD600 and 2GB RAM was going to be an issue for me but it's totally not. I beat on her and she's snappy enough for me... and nothing's snappy enough for me! Oh and I love my camera, pics are great, a million times better than my last phone.
Note 3 was what I was originally going to buy. I played with it a lot while waiting for One Max to be released. Beautiful device, super fast, Day-Glo screen LOL. It's... well... it's a Samsung Galaxy (It should be noted that we own 5 Samsung Galaxies) Clunky UI, TouchWiz , insane bloatware, SuperAMOLED screen. I am personally not a fan of Samsung screen tech. Colors over-saturated and unnatural. The Note does have some cool and unique capabilities, like It's S-Pen and Multi-app.
To be perfectly honest I have no hands on experience with Z Ultra. It's gorgeous, glass, waterproof, great specs, I'd have one for fun if I was rich.
Also for your consideration is the recently launched LG G Pro 2. 5.9" 1920x1080... Equally comparable in specs to the Note and the Z Ultra, It's also equally as pretty.
Good luck deciding!
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just my opinion
If you prefer performance, then keep ZU or sell for Note 3
If you are not really care about performance, just choose your ideal phone
There are so many factors can change your mind, it could be performance, screen size or phone body, etc.
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Your right so many factors haha. There's a constant battle going on in my head for past couple of weeks. To be honest I just chucked the note 3 in there as another phone. Although I like the idea of some of there stuff the ui is horrible. And still don't like the design that much. The xzu is a powerhouse it is so smooth. The ui is great best I've seen but to me it is other parts letting it down. The screen is stupidly sensitive to the point if the screen is abit dirty from fingerprints (it is a fingerprint magnet) then the screen can go crazy with phantom touches etc it's installed with a factory installed anti shatter film which also scratches quite easily. There's no ir blaster. And the thing I hate is its such a big phone they for some reason couldn't incorporate a god damn flash. Plus the Sony throw (dlna) is pretty ropey to say the least with my HTC one it would play one video then play the next without having to mess around. With the xzu it can be a night mare and that's if you even get it to work. Sometimes I have to turn off wifi on phone then back on or even turn off the phone completely all while turning off TV to get a connection. It can be a frustrating phone to say the least. @neodiver the water proof isn't all that you have to compromise for sound quality. But it is a luxury device. But for luxury the price for accessories is crazy, for the xzu power case it's about £110... But again while I sent the xzu off for repair last week. I hugely missed the phone. I was using my HTC one and was not impressed having to use it. I'm not sure if that was small screen phobia or what haha. But it was lacking. It may have been the rom I was on. It was great to have a good camera phone back but still. If you guys could give me advice. I don't mind how biased you are towards the phone.I had a demo on the phone over weekend. At the moment the power is in your hands haha. What is the camera like? Is it same as htc one? Does the sd600 let it down I'm any way. What is Dev support like. Is it rootable. I may even try a gpe rom is the one available. I guess it has xposed bit can you use the toolbox.apk. Which is on htc one on the max? What do you guys think of the HTC accessories if you have them or even if there are any out... I haven't yet checked. Does it work with the Sony smartwatch 2 I don't have 1 but may give it a go at some stage. Etc. Thanks if you do manage to read my long ramble.
Oh I will have a search for that LG. Might not be available in UK yet as haven't heard much of it.
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Keeping in mind that I'm heavily One Max biased, This is an extremely capable device. Gorgeous fullHD screen + front facing stereo speakers (sound is to die for!) = Mini Home Theater. Runs super smooth, never hiccups. My battery lasts a full day. I thought having only SD600 and 2GB RAM was going to be an issue for me but it's totally not. I beat on her and she's snappy enough for me... and nothing's snappy enough for me! Oh and I love my camera, pics are great, a million times better than my last phone.
Note 3 was what I was originally going to buy. I played with it a lot while waiting for One Max to be released. Beautiful device, super fast, Day-Glo screen LOL. It's... well... it's a Samsung Galaxy (It should be noted that we own 5 Samsung Galaxies) Clunky UI, TouchWiz , insane bloatware, SuperAMOLED screen. I am personally not a fan of Samsung screen tech. Colors over-saturated and unnatural. The Note does have some cool and unique capabilities, like It's S-Pen and Multi-app.
To be perfectly honest I have no hands on experience with Z Ultra. It's gorgeous, glass, waterproof, great specs, I'd have one for fun if I was rich.
Also for your consideration is the recently launched LG G Pro 2. 5.9" 1920x1080... Equally comparable in specs to the Note and the Z Ultra, It's also equally as pretty.
Good luck deciding!
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In this review the quality of the camera seems really good for the price, what do you think ?
https://youtu.be/Un0FJCYKTcM
Seems he put alot of into the manual customization and got a good product. Seems like the low light camera as is, is pretty much a lost cause. Nothing too new
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In this review the quality of the camera seems really good for the price, what do you think ?
https://youtu.be/Un0FJCYKTcM
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I don't know if i would call it good for the price. It is a strange choice of camera sensor which seems like it was some kind of Samsung R&D experiment that didn't go quite right. The camera performs fine in prefect conditions, but the low light, the lens flaring, the AF hunt and slow re-focus, HDR ghosting, bad OIS, worse EIS... i hope it's software correctable but i don't think ZTE will put that much work into fixing it and I don't expect Samsung to help either (not in their interest). It has good manual controls except the focus locking, but that means you are bound to miss some shots or walk away with blur. Shame considering other specs, but camera is a big part of the phone now, it's probably the 3rd most reviewed feature after performance and design
Get a G5 if you care about the camera a lot. You can get them for $400 mint condition on ebay easily and the camera is pretty good. Not S7 good but close to second best.
Good, in-depth review
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Get a G5 if you care about the camera a lot. You can get them for $400 mint condition on ebay easily and the camera is pretty good. Not S7 good but close to second best.
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I would probably get HTC10 in that case, not a fan of LG. I am at this point waiting to see what new nexii will look like.
I agree that the G5 is also a good deal considering the price drop, but as I'm going to China next month I'm looking for the perfect chinese phone...
And yes, camera is an important feature of phones now.
First of all, sorry if this thread is in the wrong place, and I know that there have been a few comparisons between the two.
My 2 year contract is ending, and I was more interested about how you think they've aged during these 10-11 months since their release. In my country they are roughly the same price on a 2 year contract (the G5 is about 20-30 Euros cheaper than the S7).
I would like to hear from you about the everyday performance (battery, gaming, lags, heat problems?...basically every aspect). I've read that the cameras of the both phones are pretty much neck and neck, and that they are both excellent.
Which one would you recommend me for the next 2 years?
Thanks
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First of all, sorry if this thread is in the wrong place, and I know that there have been a few comparisons between the two.
My 2 year contract is ending, and I was more interested about how you think they've aged during these 10-11 months since their release. In my country they are roughly the same price on a 2 year contract (the G5 is about 20-30 Euros cheaper than the S7).
I would like to hear from you about the everyday performance (battery, gaming, lags, heat problems?...basically every aspect). I've read that the cameras of the both phones are pretty much neck and neck, and that they are both excellent.
Which one would you recommend me for the next 2 years?
Thanks
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G5 by far, The lag of the S7 is insane...
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As he said the G5 has no lag. UI is smooth and I prefer it over TouchWiz. By other hand S7 is beautiful with all those glass and metal. In my country G5 is much cheaper than S7 so it was easy. I would still choose the G5 I prefer the camera, the UI and we are about to get Nougat.
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I love my G5, but I feel the S7 won this round. If you like big screeb, the V20 is the best out there. Great phone! If you want removable battery, IR blaster, wide angle lens and best camera manual mode, go for G5. Go for the S7 for the better build, the better point&shoot camera and the better screen. The G5 camera is better if you know how to use it.. it is more capable. But if you just want a quick point&shoot, the S7 will do a better job. Overall I want to recommend the G5 because I like it a lot, but it has 2 major faults. One is the GPS, there ia a problem with the golden pins that lose contact with the antenna on the back of the phone. Quick and easy fix but atill annoying and should not happen on a flagship. Second is image retention. If you are Rooted, there is a quick and easy fix. If not, you will need Blue Light Filter app in the background. I'm rooted so I don't have this issue. My only issue so far is the GPS. Happened to me after 7 months. Fixed it in 10 minutes but i had to open the phone. For common user, S7 IMO (unless you can handle the V20 size and then of course V20).
Ans yes, UI is better on the G5 and smoother. Also the camera , for me , is much better. I like the better manual controls and the wide angle lens.
Morphiuss said:
First of all, sorry if this thread is in the wrong place, and I know that there have been a few comparisons between the two.
My 2 year contract is ending, and I was more interested about how you think they've aged during these 10-11 months since their release. In my country they are roughly the same price on a 2 year contract (the G5 is about 20-30 Euros cheaper than the S7).
I would like to hear from you about the everyday performance (battery, gaming, lags, heat problems?...basically every aspect). I've read that the cameras of the both phones are pretty much neck and neck, and that they are both excellent.
Which one would you recommend me for the next 2 years?
Thanks
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The only thing I am jealous bout with S7 is the water resistance and design. $20-30 cheaper? You sure? With my phone company huge price difference. I can get the G5 for $300 plus tax. S7 $800 plus tax.
The specs bout the same. LG g5 got a better cam. Just look at comparisons and you be the judge. I might have a biased view. LG G5 gets a lot of hate, but its a great phone.
I am sorry but that's a huge price difference and a bout the same specs. LG g5 has a better Cam, removable battery, sd slot, etc. Makes me pick LG G5 all day. Save yourself money bro get it.
Biggest issues with G5s is GPS and heat issues. GPS seems to not have issues with newer models. Mine was made in september. Check the box before you buy. Three people I know in real life bought new versions and no GPS issues.
That heat issue seems to happen a lot with heavy usage and full brightness up. Lowering the brightness seem to help a lot. It can be annoying at times. And a thick case like outter box seem to help that.
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The only thing I am jealous bout with S7 is the water resistance and design. $20-30 cheaper? You sure? With my phone company huge price difference. I can get the G5 for $300 plus tax. S7 $800 plus tax.
The specs bout the same. LG g5 got a better cam. Just look at comparisons and you be the judge. I might have a biased view. LG G5 gets a lot of hate, but its a great phone.
I am sorry but that's a huge price difference and a bout the same specs. LG g5 has a better Cam, removable battery, sd slot, etc. Makes me pick LG G5 all day. Save yourself money bro get it.
Biggest issues with G5s is GPS and heat issues. GPS seems to not have issues with newer models. Mine was made in september. Check the box before you buy. Three people I know in real life bought new versions and no GPS issues.
That heat issue seems to happen a lot with heavy usage and full brightness up. Lowering the brightness seem to help a lot. It can be annoying at times. And a thick case like outter box seem to help that.
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Yep, the price for just the phone G5 is 650 euros vs the 680 euros for the S7 in my phone company. When buying them on a 2 year contract, the price difference is even smaller (20 smth euros). I don't know how that's possible...
I'm considering the G5, because my G3 still works without any lag, and somehow it's Samsungs' phones custom to start lagging just before a newer version of the phone is released
How's the camera for just point and shoot, because I don't think I'll be making to many pictures using manual control? What's the problem with the GPS? Is it easily solvable or does it require to get a replacement unit? And around how much of screen on time do you get?
Im a phone addict for saying it in some way, i had iphone 6 Plus, Galaxy s6, Galaxy s5, Iphone 5, Iphone 4 after using them all got a LG G4 and the rest named are all sold.. After that i went with the LG G5 and to be perfectly honest, it wins over them all, i dont even gonna try S7 since G5 runs perfectly, no issues, smooth, great battery life, great updates, in my opinion best overall phone atm.. My friend is a Samsung fan and even him said G5 its better overall S7, so go ahead without doubts with the G5..
Saying no LAG seems pushing the truth a bit, here is my view of a user who has been using the S5 901f for a couple of years.
What probably has not helped the G5's cause in my case is that samsung made massive performance improvements on their android 6 touchwiz for the S5.
So I have basically been comparing my 901f to the G5 and also to the S7 edge who my brother in law owns and let me have a go with it. Its the more powerful variant of the S7 here in the uk not the snapdragon 820 version.
Also to consider thanks to a good custom kernel my S5 is well tuned, especially with using the zzmoove governor.
So
In terms of overall performance, I would say sadly my S5 beats my G5, the S7 beats them both.
The G5 is very fast at multitasking, so once stuff is loaded, you can switch between apps very quickly and they keep their loaded state, but for stuff not loaded its for some reason slower than both samsung phones.
Some stuff wont stay cached e.g. better battery stats and sms messages, both visibly LAG on my G5 when the simc ard is inserted, I gave the phone to my brother in law to play with, I didnt mention the performance and he commented the phone was laggy. (this was before I did tuning).
Also performance is not everything, when comparing the phone features, samsung wins hands down. The colour tone can be changed, the unique samsung features are actually useful, 2g only mode can be set, has auto redial, better dialer/contacts app.
Samsung has much bigger dev community on XDA, e.g. unless there is a private hidden forum, there is not one single working custom kernel for the G5, that is juat a big wow.
Amoled vs IPS, amoled is a very clear winner, I think what doesnt help the G5 is that its IPS is a poor IPS, my oneplusone phone is also IPS but has less backlight bleed, and better viewing angles than the G5. Amoled is just the pinnacle of flat screen display technology, even apple I think are moving to amoled for their next phones. I only need to look at my G5 slightly off angle and I have contrast shift. I expect overtime I would get used to it, but if you used to samsung displays I think you in for a shock.
Samsung has water resistance, in practice I am not sure its a huge deal, as the LG phone is still splash proof (e.g. it should be fine in the rain).
All this doesnt mean I think the G5 is a bad phone, there is definite stuff about it which is nice.
Has FM radio
Always on clock
Speaker placement is better at bottom
Camera app is better (in my opinion)
USB-C is very nice
Fast charging is nice (although the S7 has this also, but not my S5)
Less bloat on stock rom than samsung.
Much better memory management, especially it doesnt aggressively kill background apps like samsung does.
Faster storage
I hope my feedback is helpful, and of course what I prefer to have on a phone you may not agree with, in which case what I listed as flaws of the G5 may not be relevant to yourself.
Also worth mentioning samsung S7 has 2 spatial streams for wifi so AC is 866mbit, N is 150mbit on 2.4ghz and 300mbit on 5.ghz
LG is 433mbit for AC, 75mbit for N on 2.4 and 150mbit for N on 5
Here in the UK on EE the S7 has a large price premium over the G5 still, over a 2 year contract its an extra �15 month x 24 which is �360.
Thanks a lot!
Screen, Nougat, processor, Daydream, etc? I currently have the Z but keep seeing how people are loving the Z play even more.
Battery. I'm unable to even discharge my Moto Z in a full day of use, how could I discharge the Play?
Seriously... speed and height.
Daydream VR
The VZW Z was $120 with no contract and no trade-in. Got four of them to replacing the aging phones of family members.
Locked bootloader is a huge negative for sure, but with the exception of AdAway, I find myself less concerned with root and custom ROMs given how close to vanilla the Moto is.
If someone figures out how to unlock it, I'll do it without a second thought, but at $120 the specs make it a no-brainer over the Z Play and well worth the risk of being stuck with a locked bootloader (for me).
It's thin and light
Hardware, software (nougat), thickness, the dark frame, the aluminium cover.
Hey guys. I've just gone through this so I thought I'd add my $0.02.
I went into a local shop and got some hands on tune with both of these. Honestly, with normal use I was pretty tough to tell the difference. Even the screens were close enough for that to not be an issue.
In the hand, the play felt better to me. The regular Z was almost too thin and the edges felt quite sharp.
Ultimately, I went with the regular Z and here are my reasons in order of importance to me:
1. Camera
Looking at the pictures taken I that shop there was a marked difference between the two. This may have been exacerbated my the play's lower res screen but the photos taken indoors were more passable to me.
2. Specs
Even though the play was just as smooth navigating Android, my assumption is that the SD 820 in the Z will give it more longevity.
3. Thickness
I have the speaker, camera and battery moto mods. The Z feels much better in the hand with mods installed than the play. Those couple of mm do make a difference.
4. Price
Over here in Aus, there's $300 difference between the play and the Z retail. However, I actually bought my Z on Expansys during a sale for $629 with free shipping. The play was $489 and for me the extra $$$ is comfortably justified.
I still dig the play though. I've had back of my GS7 and even though the GS7 camera is KILLER, I'd probably still pick the okay over it.
That is all, hope that helps anyone else tossing up between the two.
Play camera is considered better. Unless you're in love with the form factor of the Z I don't see it.
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Play camera is considered better. Unless you're in love with the form factor of the Z I don't see it.
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Considered better by who? I think you'd be pressed to find even one review which would support this claim.
Play has more megapixel, sure. But it also has a narrower aperture lens so it's low light performance is always going to produce shots with now noise and less detai.
There's much more to a camera than a sensor. Case in point: Google pixel and Xiaomi Mi5s. Exact same sensor but have you heard anyone talking about the Xiaomi being the best smartphone camera money can buy? There's a reason for that.
I'm not intending to be rude here but for real... if you're going to tout the Play as having a better camera then you need a pretty solid basis for it considering every single review of the Play I came across described the camera as just passable.
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Both Anandtech' and DXO basically say the Z Play has the better camera. The shots I've seen seem to confirm that. Where are the reviews you refer to that compare them DIRECTLY? A whole lot of vitriole in that post.
Lightweight and thin, I can barely feel it in my pocket. I get 5h+ screentime with the combination of Greenify, Lux AB and another app I forget; that schedules system things around the phones hibernation.
Considering that Nougat recently got pushed for the Z Play, it was noted that Daydream VR is not included in the update because of the Z Play's low resolution and less powerful Snapdragon 635 processor. I guess I'm glad I spent the extra few bucks to get the Z instead.
I was going to get the Play, but my carrier stopped offering it, so around here it was about $400 to buy one from the classifieds. Mostly just wanted the bigger battery.
So I got the Z for zero down as an upgrade with my carrier instead. And really, the battery has surprised me. I'm getting 5 to 6 hours screen on time, and the phone charges so fast anyway. So I'm glad I got the Z now. The camera has been a nice surprise too, compared to phones I've previously had.
This is my 3rd Moto. I've had the original X and the N6 also. Have loved all my moto phones.
Still getting the battery mod soon though.
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I was going to get the Play, but my carrier stopped offering it, so around here it was about $400 to buy one from the classifieds. Mostly just wanted the bigger battery.
So I got the Z for zero down as an upgrade with my carrier instead. And really, the battery has surprised me. I'm getting 5 to 6 hours screen on time, and the phone charges so fast anyway. So I'm glad I got the Z now. The camera has been a nice surprise too, compared to phones I've previously had.
This is my 3rd Moto. I've had the original X and the N6 also. Have loved all my moto phones.
Still getting the battery mod soon though.
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Are you with Koodo? I'm with Koodo and they did indeed just stop carrying the Z Play, just when I was thinking of upgrading to it from the X Play I was wondering whether the "regular" Z might be my next choice, and it just may be...
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Are you with Koodo? I'm with Koodo and they did indeed just stop carrying the Z Play, just when I was thinking of upgrading to it from the X Play I was wondering whether the "regular" Z might be my next choice, and it just may be...
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Well, the Z is the better device. No doubt. Minus a headphone jack and the Play has a bigger battery.
The lack of headphone jack is definitely a nuisance. Have to be charged up before watching stuff, or listening to a lot of music. There's Bluetooth headphones out there though too.
The battery life surprised me, not much worse than my oneplus-one, or N6, but not stellar of course. I just got the incipio battery mod, so that solves that. Lol. It's bulkier, but not too crazy.
So it was cash for a play, probably used, or zero for the Z on a two year contract. I'm happy with what I got though.
I'm with bell. Oh, and it's the best camera I've had on a phone so far. I don't expect pics like an actual camera, so this meets my expectations for sure. :good:
Great specs, but mostly due to how thin and sexy it looks. Battery is no big deal to me these days because quick charge is fabulous...
I have had an LG G4 since Sept, 2015 and have been using it as my daily driver ever since. I was probably among the first ones in India to buy the LG G6. For clarification, the LG G6 (H870DS) sold in India has 64GB memory and comes with a 32-bit HiFi DAC. I loved the G6 right from its launch at MWC, so much so that I had made up my mind to get it as soon as it lands in India. The fact that it was available with an INR 10,000 cashback on the first day was the icing on the cake. I bought the Ice Platinum colour and received the device on 29th (requested later delivery).
I unboxed the phone around 3pm and used it for 2 hours straight. I had taken a half-day from work, I spent two hours with this device, I loved the aesthetics and this colour. LG has made a near perfect smartphone but it fell short in the one place where I had least expected it to. After about 3 hours of using this phone, I put up the return request with a very heavy heart. This is by far the best Android device I have ever used till date. Why did I return it, the burning question now.
The LG G6 has the worst front camera I have used on a smartphone since 2012. Period. It was worse than my old LG G2, Galaxy S4 and even the mid-ranger Moto G4 Plus. Coming from an LG G4, this was a major downgrade for me. I played around with the settings, found that the front was using a 3.7MP mode to scale to 18:9 but even moving to the 5MP mode didn't help. The camera was blotchy, unfocussed at most times, lacked any kind of sharpness and had very poor color reproduction.
I headed to the nearest LG service centre and also visited a Croma outlet that had a demo unit. After being certain that I had not received a lemon, I had to go for the return. For those wondering, the LG G4 is miles ahead of the front camera game with its 8MP autofocus sensor. The LG G6 is a fantastic device and probably is the best that LG could produce.
I do not understand how could LG engineers, marketing teams, quality control department or even their top ranking officials overlooked this. I am not sure how others have not mentioned this in their reviews. I searched around and found a couple of camera comparison videos that also show how poor the G6's front camera is when compared to other flagships. The OnePlus 3T has a much sharper sensor than the G6 and I always hated the OP3T front camera for the lack of details it captures!
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I have had an LG G4 since Sept, 2015 and have been using it as my daily driver ever since. I was probably among the first ones in India to buy the LG G6. For clarification, the LG G6 (H870DS) sold in India has 64GB memory and comes with a 32-bit HiFi DAC. I loved the G6 right from its launch at MWC, so much so that I had made up my mind to get it as soon as it lands in India. The fact that it was available with an INR 10,000 cashback on the first day was the icing on the cake. I bought the Ice Platinum colour and received the device on 29th (requested later delivery).
I unboxed the phone around 3pm and used it for 2 hours straight. I had taken a half-day from work, I spent two hours with this device, I loved the aesthetics and this colour. LG has made a near perfect smartphone but it fell short in the one place where I had least expected it to. After about 3 hours of using this phone, I put up the return request with a very heavy heart. This is by far the best Android device I have ever used till date. Why did I return it, the burning question now.
The LG G6 has the worst front camera I have used on a smartphone since 2012. Period. It was worse than my old LG G2, Galaxy S4 and even the mid-ranger Moto G4 Plus. Coming from an LG G4, this was a major downgrade for me. I played around with the settings, found that the front was using a 3.7MP mode to scale to 18:9 but even moving to the 5MP mode didn't help. The camera was blotchy, unfocussed at most times, lacked any kind of sharpness and had very poor color reproduction.
I headed to the nearest LG service centre and also visited a Croma outlet that had a demo unit. After being certain that I had not received a lemon, I had to go for the return. For those wondering, the LG G4 is miles ahead of the front camera game with its 8MP autofocus sensor. The LG G6 is a fantastic device and probably is the best that LG could produce.
I do not understand how could LG engineers, marketing teams, quality control department or even their top ranking officials overlooked this. I am not sure how others have not mentioned this in their reviews. I searched around and found a couple of camera comparison videos that also show how poor the G6's front camera is when compared to other flagships. The OnePlus 3T has a much sharper sensor than the G6 and I always hated the OP3T front camera for the lack of details it captures!
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Actually is a known thing of this device, and also the rear cameras are, on the hardware side, the worse piece of **** that LG could mount on a top device, but, well, at least with the reare the software has done miracles. Don't know about international reviewers, or the ones that review in your country, but in mine (italy) it was always said that the front camera is really bad.
But in my case i don't use the front camera, never used in any phone i've ever had (G2, G5 and now G6), i'm not a selfie person xD
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Actually is a known thing of this device, and also the rear cameras are, on the hardware side, the worse piece of **** that LG could mount on a top device, but, well, at least with the reare the software has done miracles. Don't know about international reviewers, or the ones that review in your country, but in mine (italy) it was always said that the front camera is really bad.
But in my case i don't use the front camera, never used in any phone i've ever had (G2, G5 and now G6), i'm not a selfie person xD
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Even if I were not a selfie person. Even if I never video called anyone. Even if I never switched on the front camera of the device, I wouldn't buy the G6. I would absolutely not be at peace knowing the fact that a flagship device with this price tag has anything that is inferior to even its own predecessors. The problem with the tech world today (I am looking at iPhone users here) is that they keep supporting these brands by buying whatever *** they put in their phones and never complain. If we do not complain, they wouldn't listen and the evolution of technology will suffer a set back!
Yes the results from the rear cameras are really good, but most reviews mention the poor quality of the front camera, don't know what LG was thinking?
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rahulsuneja said:
Even if I were not a selfie person. Even if I never video called anyone. Even if I never switched on the front camera of the device, I wouldn't buy the G6. I would absolutely not be at peace knowing the fact that a flagship device with this price tag has anything that is inferior to even its own predecessors. The problem with the tech world today (I am looking at iPhone users here) is that they keep supporting these brands by buying whatever *** they put in their phones and never complain. If we do not complain, they wouldn't listen and the evolution of technology will suffer a set back!
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Then complain, is by complaining that you get results in life.
Man, this is a phone, just buy whatever you want, without criticizing the others and you are good to go
Although I agree the G4S FFC was probably the best self camera I have used on a phone. I also greatly appreciate that this phone was $100 cheaper than other flag ships. The FFC is more than satisfactory for my needs
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I have had an LG G4 since Sept, 2015 and have been using it as my daily driver ever since. I was probably among the first ones in India to buy the LG G6. For clarification, the LG G6 (H870DS) sold in India has 64GB memory and comes with a 32-bit HiFi DAC. I loved the G6 right from its launch at MWC, so much so that I had made up my mind to get it as soon as it lands in India. The fact that it was available with an INR 10,000 cashback on the first day was the icing on the cake. I bought the Ice Platinum colour and received the device on 29th (requested later delivery).
I unboxed the phone around 3pm and used it for 2 hours straight. I had taken a half-day from work, I spent two hours with this device, I loved the aesthetics and this colour. LG has made a near perfect smartphone but it fell short in the one place where I had least expected it to. After about 3 hours of using this phone, I put up the return request with a very heavy heart. This is by far the best Android device I have ever used till date. Why did I return it, the burning question now.
The LG G6 has the worst front camera I have used on a smartphone since 2012. Period. It was worse than my old LG G2, Galaxy S4 and even the mid-ranger Moto G4 Plus. Coming from an LG G4, this was a major downgrade for me. I played around with the settings, found that the front was using a 3.7MP mode to scale to 18:9 but even moving to the 5MP mode didn't help. The camera was blotchy, unfocussed at most times, lacked any kind of sharpness and had very poor color reproduction.
I headed to the nearest LG service centre and also visited a Croma outlet that had a demo unit. After being certain that I had not received a lemon, I had to go for the return. For those wondering, the LG G4 is miles ahead of the front camera game with its 8MP autofocus sensor. The LG G6 is a fantastic device and probably is the best that LG could produce.
I do not understand how could LG engineers, marketing teams, quality control department or even their top ranking officials overlooked this. I am not sure how others have not mentioned this in their reviews. I searched around and found a couple of camera comparison videos that also show how poor the G6's front camera is when compared to other flagships. The OnePlus 3T has a much sharper sensor than the G6 and I always hated the OP3T front camera for the lack of details it captures!
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Sorry to hear that man. I know how frustrating it can get when something as simple as a front camera doesn't function the way it was supposed to, considering it's LG's best phone ever.
I was an S7E user till last week and would have switched to the S8 if I didn't have to deal with the terrible tempered glass issue with the edge displays. I have almost spent about 5 to 6 thousand only on the tempered glass and even when I used to put a new tempered glass on the S7E, the dust would start going in. Even with the S8, nobody has been able to make a proper tempered glass yet. And it almost looks like there will never be one. And the worst part was even with the tempered glass and a back case on, my S7E's display broke when it fell down from a 2 feet height. Though it still works fine and is usable, the tempered glass thing was too much to deal with. So i finally gave up on the edge displays.
Wanted to upgrade to some other phone, I have never been a fan of iPhones, so that was not an option for me. And was eagerly waiting for the G6 to arrive in India. And when I finally got my hands on it, I was very disappointed, to say the least. The front camera like you said was very bad, the display was not bright enough ( Compared to the iPhone 7 and Mi 5, both has IPS displays) and on top of it all, the disastrous pricing by LG. So I gave up on it and continued my struggle with the S7E.
But after a month to my surprise, LG had dropped the price by 10,000, the best price you can get it for now is 39,300 on Amazon. So looked up on OLX for a good deal and found some LG employee who had bought the G6 for 23,000 and managed to get it from him for 28,000. It was just one week old. It's a black one and the black color looks much much better than the silver one I had seen the first time. So I am kind of happy with it now. I think it's a pretty sweet deal for that price. The rear wide angle camera is crazy, I really love it and the battery is pretty decent too. And I don't know if they have released some software update or something, but the front camera looks much better compared to my first experience with it.
But yeah overall it's quite disappointing that LG releasing their flagship in 2017 could not put up few simple things in place. According to me, they should have made the display better ( The color reproduction and the brightness), the front camera certainly should have been much much better and the rear too in low light conditions. But if you can get a similar deal like I got, then probably its worth it. I like the device overall now, at least i don't have to deal with the tempered glass s*** anymore.
You all keep writing "flagship" in here about the G6. That is wrong. The V-series is their flagships not the G-series. Just a note.
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You all keep writing "flagship" in here about the G6. That is wrong. The V-series is their flagships not the G-series. Just a note.
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OnePlus 5 getting returned. Picked up a new G6 for < $400 until the V30 comes out. Or the pixel 2. We shall see.
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You all keep writing "flagship" in here about the G6. That is wrong. The V-series is their flagships not the G-series. Just a note.
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That is not entirely accurate! The V-series is their Top of the line model/device, but is not released world wide, it's only released in some select markets... For instance I have never seen an V-series in person ever, and I've tried looking for the V-10 and V-20 on OLX in the country I reside and neighbouring countries to purchase one, but found none... Then I read either the V10 or V20 (don't remember exactly which) was only released in the US and the other only in US and Europe...
A Flagship by definition, is the Ship or in this case the Smatphone that is high-end and represents the Brand, usually worldwide, which in this case is the G-Series... If you ask most people, they don't even know what a V10/20 is, what brand it is, and have probably never seen one, and if they had, they probably wouldn't have known...
Also, if you watch any review video on the G6, they all call it LG's Flagship Device... Of course a brand can have more than one flagship... Samsung for instance has The Galaxy S line and Galaxy Note... Both are considered flagships.
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I Dono much... But do you guys disabled the beauty mode skin tone and all those gimmicks in front camera option ? Cos after that I see it's little sharp and for the author of this thread.... If you knew and loved pretty well about G6 you should have known that front camera is only 5mp before you buying it. It's not a selfie fone bro
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dannejanne said:
You all keep writing "flagship" in here about the G6. That is wrong. The V-series is their flagships not the G-series. Just a note.
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Both are flagship infact
V series is phablet version and saying for youth and media guys
G series is for usual customers and who need executive like needed people
I can't believe this. The selfie camera is nothing special. What a disaster, how could they do this to us? I demand a refund.
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ballmead said:
I can't believe this. The selfie camera is nothing special. What a disaster, how could they do this to us? I demand a refund.
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You'd demand a refund, because you're not pleased with the front camera? I'd say it takes about five seconds browsing reviews of the G6 to conclude that the front camera isn't exactly top notch. But it's not a manufacturing or quality fault.
I am trying to decide between OP5 and G6 (will be buying in India)
I am holding back on picking up a G6 because of these following reasons, so please through some light on the same
1) Software - I am worried that the software (not being stock or OP5 smooth) may become clumsy and slow the phone one I use it for 5-6 months (similar to samsung ones)
2) Battery life - OP5 has better battery than G6 (?). Also as OP5 keeps the battery cool while charging, it may have better long term battery life. My Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and note 4 battery lives reduced drastically to 1.5 hours SOT after a year, year and a half of use. So this has become a major issue for me.
3) Heat on SD821 - I have to rely on 3G almost all the time and I read in a couple of reviews that the SD821 heats up while constant 3G browsing or CPU intensive tasks rather quickly while no such problems with SD835 (OP5)
sandy601 said:
I am trying to decide between OP5 and G6 (will be buying in India)
I am holding back on picking up a G6 because of these following reasons, so please through some light on the same
1) Software - I am worried that the software (not being stock or OP5 smooth) may become clumsy and slow the phone one I use it for 5-6 months (similar to samsung ones)
2) Battery life - OP5 has better battery than G6 (?). Also as OP5 keeps the battery cool while charging, it may have better long term battery life. My Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and note 4 battery lives reduced drastically to 1.5 hours SOT after a year, year and a half of use. So this has become a major issue for me.
3) Heat on SD821 - I have to rely on 3G almost all the time and I read in a couple of reviews that the SD821 heats up while constant 3G browsing or CPU intensive tasks rather quickly while no such problems with SD835 (OP5)
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Yes, yes and yes.
I bought LG G6 in India a week back and Im not completely sold. Having used OPO and OPT, LG software in something else, you either hate it or you don't.
Except Display and Camera, 1+5 offers much more when compered to LG.
S1611 said:
Yes, yes and yes.
I bought LG G6 in India a week back and Im not completely sold. Having used OPO and OPT, LG software in something else, you either hate it or you don't.
Except Display and Camera, 1+5 offers much more when compered to LG.
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thanks for the response..
how good is the display difference? and camera (apart from video, I mean still photography) of OP5 is at least on par with G6 right? (at least thats what I understood from the pocketnow's in-depth camera reviews of both devices)
and how is the battery life of G6 compared to your 3T?
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You'd demand a refund, because you're not pleased with the front camera? I'd say it takes about five seconds browsing reviews of the G6 to conclude that the front camera isn't exactly top notch. But it's not a manufacturing or quality fault.
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Hook, line and sinker...
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sandy601 said:
thanks for the response..
how good is the display difference? and camera (apart from video, I mean still photography) of OP5 is at least on par with G6 right? (at least thats what I understood from the pocketnow's in-depth camera reviews of both devices)
and how is the battery life of G6 compared to your 3T?
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Display differences depends on your preferences. I prefer LCD over AMOLED. You may not. But that jello affect gets my OCD going.
Camera difference comes down to processing algorithm done by OEMs. For comparison head over to GSMarena photo compare tool and don't let DXOmark scores fool you.
On the side note, If you have budget of G6, I would advise you to wait for Nokia 8 or buy HTC U11 now.
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I am trying to decide between OP5 and G6 (will be buying in India)
I am holding back on picking up a G6 because of these following reasons, so please through some light on the same
1) Software - I am worried that the software (not being stock or OP5 smooth) may become clumsy and slow the phone one I use it for 5-6 months (similar to samsung ones)
2) Battery life - OP5 has better battery than G6 (?). Also as OP5 keeps the battery cool while charging, it may have better long term battery life. My Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and note 4 battery lives reduced drastically to 1.5 hours SOT after a year, year and a half of use. So this has become a major issue for me.
3) Heat on SD821 - I have to rely on 3G almost all the time and I read in a couple of reviews that the SD821 heats up while constant 3G browsing or CPU intensive tasks rather quickly while no such problems with SD835 (OP5)
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Well let me tell you my thoughts so far ( Just so that you know where my thoughts are coming from, I am a professional fashion photographer)
1) The design is pretty neat. In the sense, feels great in the hand, the screen to body ratio is good, no buttons on the front which make it look seamless.
2) The display itself is not great. Compared to the other LCD's like iPhone 7, Mi5, Mi6 and few other phones, G6 has the least impressive display. The colors look pale, text is not sharp enough, brightness should have been much much better and the viewing angles are poor, blacks are really poor again and you can see the light leak during the night when the always display is on. ( All this compared to the other standard LCD display phones and not compared to an AMOLED). I will never compare AMOLED displays to LCDs, as they both have their own advantages and disadvantages.
2) The camera is a little tricky here, The wide angle is really fun to use and the photos look like none other. But otherwise, its an okay camera, and definitely not good when it comes to the front camera.
3) Battery is fine, gets you through a day with moderate use.
4) Doesn't heat at least for me, i use it on 4G most of the times.
What i would suggest is, see the phone in person, compare it to other similar price range phones and then take a decision. I also have an S7 edge and i am definitely not as happy as i was with S7E. Thats a better phone IMO. I am not at all a fan of OPO, so cant comment on it. You can even consider the Honor 8 pro, which i saw in person and i think its a pretty solid phone too.
I bought the G6 as i felt there were no other options ( I hadn't see the Honor 8 Pro when i bought the G6 and my S7E was a literal pain in the a** to maintain as it did not have a proper tempered glass and that was the main reason why i decided to move away from samsung)
Edit : One more important reason i bought it was, i found an LG employee who bought the phone on 50% discount and sold it to me for 28K ( He had bought it for 23K). If you can catch hold of some LG employee, then it will be a great deal.