Hey y'all,
Quick question to those who own the Moto Z.
1. What's your battery life and Screen on Time?
2. Do you use the battery mod?
3. Do you use a case with it?
I'm having overheating issues when using the an Incipio Bumper case + TUMI battery mod :
Device randomly freezes (requires a reboot to get out) or it doesn't wake up from sleep.
Bumper only / no Mods: no issues (except the usual terrible battery life)
Battery Mod only: thermal throttling (it lags a fair bit, occasional system shutoff)
(above happens at room temperature or air conditioned room)
There's no overheat warning either and issues persists after hard resets.
Previously there's issues of random freezes every couple few days, but I'm not too sure if it's due to heat or the device itself going bad.
Thanks.
Device: XT1650-03
Build: NPL25.86-30
My Moto Z does sometimes get hot and lag, especially when using the Tumi battery mod. Battery life is pretty bad for me but I work from home so it didn't bother me. I just use the battery mod when I'm going to be out all day.
Interestingly, the new Turbo Power mod doesn't seem to cause the same overheating issues.
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I'd recommend getting a warranty replacement from Motorola. Their service is good and will have a new device to you in a couple of days.
robnhl said:
My Moto Z does sometimes get hot and lag, especially when using the Tumi battery mod. Battery life is pretty bad for me but I work from home so it didn't bother me. I just use the battery mod when I'm going to be out all day.
Interestingly, the new Turbo Power mod doesn't seem to cause the same overheating issues.
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I'd recommend getting a warranty replacement from Motorola. Their service is good and will have a new device to you in a couple of days.
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Can you confirm that ? The TurboPower Mod I mean.
Yeah. I will probably head up to the local service center, reproduce the issue then and there
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Can you confirm that ? The TurboPower Mod I mean.
Yeah. I will probably head up to the local service center, reproduce the issue then and there
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I haven't had any issues since using the Turbo Power Mod. But I've only had it a week so the jury is still out.
I regularly use the Incipio Battery Mod and It barely heats up, no throttling whatsoever. My device rarely gets warm, even when gaming. Z's outside the US have a lower clocked 820, maybe that's why.
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Lunatiic said:
I regularly use the Incipio Battery Mod and It barely heats up, no throttling whatsoever. My device rarely gets warm, even when gaming. Z's outside the US have a lower clocked 820, maybe that's why.
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And it just so happens I got the unlocked US variant. :sweat:
Hi.
My phone heats up a lot when ambient temperature is around 30-35 deg c. While using it in the sun , phone temps go to 41-44deg c, that's the point where the phone throttles hard. It's so annoying to use it when it gets hot which is almost all the time, coz it's so slow.
Don't even need to talk about battery mod. Literally my phone stops working when it's charging with the mod. Btw I'm using mophie battery mod.
I'm planning to throw this trash away. But I invested in this ****. .
So frustrated.
I'm sure Moto says this is common and it's part of the deal.
Please someone give me a fix. If rooting and custom ROM solves it then I'm down for it. But since my phone's still in warranty period someone confirm if there's any ROM which solves this. .
Thanks in advance.
sanjayg0912 said:
Hi.
My phone heats up a lot when ambient temperature is around 30-35 deg c. While using it in the sun , phone temps go to 41-44deg c, that's the point where the phone throttles hard. It's so annoying to use it when it gets hot which is almost all the time, coz it's so slow.
Don't even need to talk about battery mod. Literally my phone stops working when it's charging with the mod. Btw I'm using mophie battery mod.
I'm planning to throw this trash away. But I invested in this ****. .
So frustrated.
I'm sure Moto says this is common and it's part of the deal.
Please someone give me a fix. If rooting and custom ROM solves it then I'm down for it. But since my phone's still in warranty period someone confirm if there's any ROM which solves this. .
Thanks in advance.
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Hey Sanjay,
I updated to this firmware: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/how-to-update-to-official-7-1-1-moto-z-t3640298
And it solves like 90% of my issues listed above.
My Z sometimes gets warm when using Chrome, but that seems to be a Chrome-specific issue (already had this with my OnePlus Two, which, however, got HOT, not just warm ...) Apart from that, I can say that I'm very happy with my Z which I find to run consistently stable (not using any mods.) I usually get SOT of 3-4 hrs and have to charge every 1.5 days. I'm not an overly heavy user, though, and rarely play games.
Oh, and I'm using the European version, so if it's true that the US version clocks higher, this might explain why my phone never gets really hot (and also doesn't need to throttle aggressively even under high load.)
I have experienced sudden freezing frequently on my Moto Z Nougat 7.0 and still persisted on 7.1.1 - If i put the device down and returned in 10-15mins, it would be back to normal. Other times when I became more frustrated I would turn off, clear cache & reboot. This problem happens between one and two times a day. The battery life and projections are slaughtered upon rebooting from freezes. Safe mode doesn't exhibit the same problems at all so it is probably an app.
Color me SOL.
My Moto Z has been exhibiting a similar issue. It would heat up very easily on even mundane tasks, thermal throttle HARD and stay there until I leave it to cool off before very easily doing do again, at which the phone is already past the point of being uncomfortable to hold. It gets worse still with the Mophie Motomod.
I had to use a custom kernel and deliberately put the CPU in a state that causes it to be slower than a SD400 in order to even get acceptable temperatures.
I can’t do any OTA updates because my particular device would constantly brick every time it would apply an update. It has done this twice already and requires constant reflashing. As such, that guide isn’t of any help for me.
And since Motorola support wouldn’t help me as I didn’t get the phone from the country where I’m living now, I’m SOL. I might just get the Galaxy Note8 and be done with it, especially after receiving 2 electrical shocks from it (although to be fair, that may be more of a result of a bad USB-C cable, but still scary nonetheless).
Aside from the aforementioned shock (more to blame with the cable but the metal design did not help either), it’s been issue after issue since the beginning of this year, and since Motorola refuses to help due to an internal company policy, I’m forced to consider cutting losses and switching back to the Note. Really unhappy with this.
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Question for anyone who actually uses an extended battery in their Rezound (if you don't use one, please don't respond) ...
... Since the phone's heat tends to come from the battery, do you know if your phone is running cooler (due to the increased space / higher capacity so less pull on a draining battery / etc) than it was when you were running the standard battery with the standard back?
... Also, is your signal any better or worse?
Thanks
jdmba said:
Question for anyone who actually uses an extended battery in their Rezound (if you don't use one, please don't respond) ...
... Since the phone's heat tends to come from the battery, do you know if your phone is running cooler (due to the increased space / higher capacity so less pull on a draining battery / etc) than it was when you were running the standard battery with the standard back?
... Also, is your signal any better or worse?
Thanks
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Hi,
I have two Rezounds, they both use to overheat doing simple things like playing local mp3s. While playing netflix it will overheat so much it will turn itself off.
At one point one phone got so hot I had to wait few minutes before I was able to turn it back on.
After having both of them replaced by vz, I got extended batteries for both. So far both new phones seem to work better with no overheat issues.
I was able to get the batteries 50% off. This was offer by vz without me asking.
hope this help.
Ummm
hw6515 said:
Hi,
I have two Rezounds, they both use to overheat doing simple things like playing local mp3s. While playing netflix it will overheat so much it will turn itself off.
At one point one phone got so hot I had to wait few minutes before I was able to turn it back on.
After having both of them replaced by vz, I got extended batteries for both. So far both new phones seem to work better with no overheat issues.
I was able to get the batteries 50% off. This was offer by vz without me asking.
hope this help.
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While I definitely thank you for the reply, I don't think it does help. You said you had 2 phones which overheated, you returned them to Verizon and 2 new ones that don't, and oh, you put extended batteries on them Would love to have known if your OLD phones stopped overheating with the extended batteries, but that ship has sailed.
SO the question remains. Can anyone who moved to the extended batteries please advise if your phone ran cooler and/or had a better signal?
Thanks
Not sure about the signal, but the Rezound with an extended overheats less because of the exhaust port, and more room for the heat to dissipate.
exhaust port?
i think that's the external speaker. same grill on the standard battery cover.
...
I was just going to let that go. Of course it is a speaker hole
I guess no one who actually owns an extended battery is able to answer. <sigh>
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I was just going to let that go. Of course it is a speaker hole
I guess no one who actually owns an extended battery is able to answer. <sigh>
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wow, I was going to answer, but with that attitude, why bother? You gave people 6 hours on a weekend to answer your question....
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I'll answer this even with the OP's attitude, to help others that might want to know.
I tested my rezound last week to see how hot it would go. I wanted to try and push it to the max and see if it would overheat. I've had overheating htc phones before (hd2) and it is something of a known issue with htc phones.
To test I used the following settings:
1. Brightness to 100%
2. Wifi off, 4g on, getting 2 bars of 4g with signal strength around -80
3. Phone on the stock wall charger and cable
I opened onlive (new streaming gaming app) and let it play for about 20 minutes. Basicly, I chose to view someone else playing and let it stream. Picked a game that looked pretty graphicly involved (saints row?, not up on all the new games).
After 20 minutes, checked the battery temp. On the stock battery, I hit 117. Once I closed out onlive, it immediately started dropping.
Using the extended battery with a case:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12854&accessoryId=48044
I hit 115 running onlive. So unless you have a bad battery, I don't think the extended vs the stock will make a difference in your temperature.
I'm guessing that running hot has a lot to do with signal strength on 4g.
nrfitchett4 said:
I tested my rezound last week to see how hot it would go. I wanted to try and push it to the max and see if it would overheat. I've had overheating htc phones before (hd2) and it is something of a known issue with htc phones.
To test I used the following settings:
1. Brightness to 100%
2. Wifi off, 4g on, getting 2 bars of 4g with signal strength around -80
3. Phone on the stock wall charger and cable
I opened onlive (new streaming gaming app) and let it play for about 20 minutes. Basicly, I chose to view someone else playing and let it stream. Picked a game that looked pretty graphicly involved (saints row?, not up on all the new games).
After 20 minutes, checked the battery temp. On the stock battery, I hit 117. Once I closed out onlive, it immediately started dropping.
Using the extended battery with a case:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12854&accessoryId=48044
I hit 115 running onlive. So unless you have a bad battery, I don't think the extended vs the stock will make a difference in your temperature.
I'm guessing that running hot has a lot to do with signal strength on 4g.
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For Science!
So, i will make this blunt... This non overclocked phone gets hotter than any other mobile device i have tried...
I am already on my second one, after number one hit 125 while sitting on my desk. This one has hit 114, which is still unacceptable really, since the room is climate controlled to around 74...what happens when I use it in the summer??
Now, by virtue of need (infrastructure tether) , I am using the ICS beta, but I cannot believe it will effect it that much. I have a 3.7v battery, so that should be good.. I will admit that I am in a building that does not do well for 4g, but frankly, my phone burning itself up just searching for a signal is unacceptable as well...
I am about ready to throw in the towel and try a GNex, even though its radio problems scare me too...Any advice guys?
what apps are running, also is this while it is charging?
Just want to start with a big thanks for all of your work over on the nook boards. The overheating has been an issue since the start. I am on my third because of it. I only reach high temps when playing games. I can stream movies all day long, and never get over 110. I am waiting for an aftermarket battery that can handle the drain from this beast phone. I guess it depends on what you will use your phone for. Glad to see you here, and hope you stay. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck....
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Most apps won't affect temperature in any real way.
Tethering requires broadcasting wifi signal, and equivalently large wifi broadcast (broadcast SSID, and all data) at an equal speed to the ultra-fast 4g.
Now, this 4g phone (as well as ANY OTHER LTE PHONE RIGHT NOW) will overheat if you download a 300-500MB file at a fast 4g speed (like 25 MBit for instance).
Overheat. Untouchable.
Wifi tether (even on 3g) will overheat a phone if you're using a decent amount of data (rather than using it for short bursts).
My HTC Eris, I had to leave the back battery cover off, and put a cold can of soda (with a paper towl in between to stop moisture) to keep it from overheating.
The Rezound will get so hot that you literally can't touch it.
Charging WHILE you tether will make it a lot worse, as the chemical activity within the battery (to charge it) is going to increase heat. Add that to 4g cell phone connection, and the wifi antenna getting hot broadcasting, and you've got a 125 degree phone (which IS hot enough to start breaking solder points).
If you have it OFF the charger at that temperature, you will notice that the notification light is now flashing orange/green back and forth. This means that the unit is overheating and should be shut off, immediately.
Get the extended battery to hang out and wireless tether for a while. It generates a whole lot less heat if not on the charger, and seems to (maybe due to the case that has more space for air in it) not heat up quite as much, in my experience.
Tethering can overheat your phone. 4g can overheat your phone. Add charging to that, and it doesn't matter how many rezounds (or GNEXes) you get. These things have no real ventilation, and there's no indication that they're going to start designing them with good ventilation that I know of.
Good luck, power user. Users like you force them to think about their poor designs and improve them. But it definitely won't handle a lot of 4g tethering without overheating. I'd expect that, without ever even having a Rezound (even though I have one).
They say 130 is the kiss of death for the Rezound but even if you're peaking in that neighborhood I'd swap out the phone for a new one. 120-130 degrees...That's like keeping lava in your phone and hoping it doesn't melt.
I hit 130 with my Inc1, and it was fine. Just navigating, not charging, for 30 min did it lol.
Mine heats up excessively and burns thru battery even sitting idle with airplane mode enabled and GPS turned off (damn Verizon and their location agent they snuck in with the update). The issue here is:
A) I'm not using it nor touching it period for a few hours at a time and its still already below 30% battery without my having used it.
B) yes I have an extra battery but when I try to switch out batteries it goes into a bootloop and won't recognize the Sim card for the next half hour.
These are my problems. I have yet to exchange it cause let's be honest...who here enjoys setting up a whole other phone? Should I seek a replacement?
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Geoi1006 said:
Mine heats up excessively and burns thru battery even sitting idle with airplane mode enabled and GPS turned off (damn Verizon and their location agent they snuck in with the update). The issue here is:
A) I'm not using it nor touching it period for a few hours at a time and its still already below 30% battery without my having used it.
B) yes I have an extra battery but when I try to switch out batteries it goes into a bootloop and won't recognize the Sim card for the next half hour.
These are my problems. I have yet to exchange it cause let's be honest...who here enjoys setting up a whole other phone? Should I seek a replacement?
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Back it up to your ext card and exchange. Don't forget to hard reset. They are sending refurbished units with prev owner data out there. Should only get hot when playing intense games or streaming lots data.
I had this heating and severe battery loss problem. There were times my phone would run fine and other times when it would lose 40% battery in 30 minutes. It seemed to be worse when I was moving around the city (changing towers???). I even had one experience where I turned the phone off and it continued to generate lots of heat until the battery died while supposedly powered off.
I tried every stock and rooted GB rom (no ICS) on XDA and a few not on XDA. I finally "fixed" it by RUU'ing my phone to the latest OTA, rerooting and reinstalling all my apps (no TiB). My phone now runs about 16 hours on a charge and only gets slightly warm (never hot) when you would expect it to.
I did a fair amount of reading and never did find an answer but my suspicion is that something between the rom and radio got out of sync resulting in the rom not controlling the radio properly. No science. Just a theory...
Hope this helps someone, somewhere. I know I've gotten lots of help from others on here.
Thanks!
Had many heat concerns/ issues with my rezounds in the past, now have a phone that games at about 115. My opinion after much research is that a 115 peak is about normal for this generation of phones (Gnex, S2, etc). Anything better than this is not the norm and if you get one that stays cooler, it's just luck. I had one that used to get around 150 so at 115, I never even notice anymore. My rule of thumb is to just keep exchanging the hot ones until you get one in the comfort zone. Unfortunately, it's just the reality we're dealing with until they start equipping better cooling solutions.
OK, first I think we need to understand if people are talking F or C when they throw out numbers like 124. If that is C, you have a seriously defective unit. If that is F, that is like moderately hot tapwater, and neither too hot to touch nor hot enough to damage solder joints. If it were, the computer I'm typing this on would be dissolving in my lap.
Welp
I have many a thread out there on this topic. I did 3 swaps for new units during my extended "no regrets" window, and this past week got 2 different refurbs for comparison. Here is my 2 cents (but based on a LOT of research and testing):
1) These phones run hot. If you look hard enough at XDA you will see people posting along the lines of "I don't know what you are talking about, I use my Rezound to chill a beer" and other such. You might be best to ignore those people.
2) There are some VERY bad Rezounds out there, but those are easily found. Those that jump to 130 straight off because they started to download some updates gotta go back. That was refurb 1.
3) My experience is that idling at 75-80 will produce 106 on a short HD game, 110-120 on a longer HD game. You might get 113 on Navigation. It will heat up to 100 on surfing (longer if you have more), but otherwise topping out at 120. If you fit within this, stop your search, and try to enjoy your phone.
Again, just my 2 cents.
I haven't done extensive testing, but I have noticed that when my phone has overheated it has always been when I left something running on it when I locked the screen. I've started hitting the home button every time I put down the phone for more than a few minutes and I haven't had many problems. I definitely get toasty when I play games while charging though.
As someone else already mentioned, the phone needs to get quite a bit hotter than most people are experiencing before it starts having problems. With how small the phones I would expect you would receive an instant 1st degree burn from touching it before the phone actually had problems. 150 C is somewhere around 302 F. For reference, I usually solder 400 F.
My first rezound got around 135 degrees I took it back the next day.
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This laptop is running at 120F just looking at this website, and it has active cooling.
Imagine a 1.5GHz dual core PC and then unplug all the fans, including the one on the CPU, and then close up all the openings in the case. Do you think it might get a little warm?
Not only do you have the CPU generating heat, but the more current you draw from a battery, the hotter it gets. And we all know how this phone can draw the battery.
Geoi1006 said:
Mine heats up excessively and burns thru battery even sitting idle with airplane mode enabled and GPS turned off (damn Verizon and their location agent they snuck in with the update). The issue here is:
A) I'm not using it nor touching it period for a few hours at a time and its still already below 30% battery without my having used it.
B) yes I have an extra battery but when I try to switch out batteries it goes into a bootloop and won't recognize the Sim card for the next half hour.
These are my problems. I have yet to exchange it cause let's be honest...who here enjoys setting up a whole other phone? Should I seek a replacement?
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There is something wrong with your phone. I swap batteries instead of charging, swapping out 1 extended battery for another (got them onsale at verizon when they were 20 bucks), and the phone boots up in about a minute.
If it is bootlooping, then I would try a hard reset first, then contact verizon and tell them about it.
As far as the OP goes, if you are in a poor signal area, I have read in multiple places that phones use more battery and generate more heat if you are in a poor signal area.
Swapping this for a Nexus will probably get you no 4g at all.
I wouldn't worry about the phone unless it was consistently getting so hot that the LED starts flashing amber.
My Rezound has peaked at 140 according to System Tuner Pro. I was charging and web browsing as soon as I woke up, like what I'm doing now lol. Was on 3G. Also, I wasn't overclocked at all. Governor wasn't even on performance lol.
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jdmba said:
I have many a thread out there on this topic. I did 3 swaps for new units during my extended "no regrets" window, and this past week got 2 different refurbs for comparison. Here is my 2 cents (but based on a LOT of research and testing):
1) These phones run hot. If you look hard enough at XDA you will see people posting along the lines of "I don't know what you are talking about, I use my Rezound to chill a beer" and other such. You might be best to ignore those people.
2) There are some VERY bad Rezounds out there, but those are easily found. Those that jump to 130 straight off because they started to download some updates gotta go back. That was refurb 1.
3) My experience is that idling at 75-80 will produce 106 on a short HD game, 110-120 on a longer HD game. You might get 113 on Navigation. It will heat up to 100 on surfing (longer if you have more), but otherwise topping out at 120. If you fit within this, stop your search, and try to enjoy your phone.
Again, just my 2 cents.
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lol dude, there is no point in ignoring us people who say our rezounds run cold, because of the fact that there's rezounds out there that don't exhibit behavior like yours.
i've seen all of your threads, and commented in all of them, and you got 3 shotty phones, plain and simple man. my phone never reaches over 100, even with over an hour straight of screen on browsing, facebooking, youtubing, gaming etc. so there, i have a normal rezound. it's from launch day, and it's never given me any problems like that whatsoever.
so no, don't ignore us who have cool running phones, because there IS such a thing..some people just have really bad luck dealing with it.
also keep in mind that the past two phones you got WERE refurbs. you do realize the refurb pool is gonna be full of hot running rezounds, since a lot of people returned the phone due to heat problems, right?
I believe some of the Rezounds get hot due to software issues. My phone will stay room temp and run for 16+ hours on a standard battery while running any GB rom . Once I flash any ICS rom my battery averages 90 to 120 degrees. As it is charging next to me right now, it is sitting at 104 degrees while doing nothing. I could switch back to a GB rom right now and it would be sitting around 80 degrees. So I believe some if not most are software/firmware issues. I am not saying their aren't ones with hardware issues but it can't be all of them.
I have ran the OTA update and am running Senseless ICS.
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm no gamer, but I didn't faced any heating issues so far.
Maybe I can't speak about heat as I used to use a galaxy S4 exynos (it's a portable cooker in case you don't know, easily reaching 96°c when just browsing on battery), this never heated, the temperature is about 45°c and it never felt uncomfortable hot, actually it never felt hot even in high external temperatures, I don't game on my phone, also I don't do highly demanding tasks, but I guess this phone can stand very well against whatever demanding task you want..
Ya very less heating in rn4
This phone is cool as... Hm, how to explain this.
Imagine hell.
Now imagine it has frozen.
That's the heat level of RN4. Snapdragon 625 does it job.
My phones been fine, up until this last few weeks...
Where I can't hold a charge for more than half a day... And even running phone a USB socket on the computer, the phone still discharges faster than it can charge. Battery getting hot too... I've tried looking to a culprit app that might be churning the cpu. But even process Explorer isn't showing high cpu use from any given app.
The battery app which shows what apps drain most doesn't seem to show it either.
Really worried and nearly giving up. Might do my first factory reset in the 2 years I had this phone. Maybe time to root it and install another rom, Any suggestions?
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My phones been fine, up until this last few weeks...
Where I can't hold a charge for more than half a day... And even running phone a USB socket on the computer, the phone still discharges faster than it can charge. Battery getting hot too... I've tried looking to a culprit app that might be churning the cpu. But even process Explorer isn't showing high cpu use from any given app.
The battery app which shows what apps drain most doesn't seem to show it either.
Really worried and nearly giving up. Might do my first factory reset in the 2 years I had this phone. Maybe time to root it and install another rom, Any suggestions?
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Just trying to comfort you - you are not alone!
First, it's my secondary phone and I use it only when I travel. So not sure since when that happens. Maybe since a week or so.
Now I can lose like 30% in one hour, and the phone gets really hot. I used the last 2 days. Example, this morning it had 100% after overnight charging. I went for breakfast and lost 30% in one hour (rarely use the phone when I was out).
Then I charge a little in the car, phone went went from 58% to 64%. Then for no reason battery life was normal again and by the end of today I had about 20% - and then suddenly withing 20 Minutes it went dark.
I have the phone for about 2 years, this problem is very new.
What I try right now after reading stuff on the internet, so it must be true:
Remove all updates to Google Duo (this app can't be removed) and disable the Auto-Update for it in the PlayStore. Lets see..... (it's an app I never used, had to lookup what it actually is). Did that 15 Minutes ago and phone is already much cooler.
Ok uninstalled updates to duo and blocked auto update in playstore... ill see if that helps... Thanks for the tip
I must admit though, this had made me consider getting a new phone... but I dont really want to the phones good (when its working right) does all i need i to do.... Sure newer phones are a tad flashier but not enough to make me jump to get a new one.
Wow, That appears to have worked..... I mean its not really long enough yet to tell but it does appear to have stopped the fast draining and heat... At least for the first few hours....
Thanks
So if it really is duo causing this battery drain, why do no battery analysers seem to show that?
And is it doing it to all smart phone with duo and I guess it's latest patch installed?
Has duo been spying on us? Has it been running the camera and watching us while we sat on the loo, which I'm soooooo currently not doing..........
Thanks! The recent heat issue after an update had me thinking i need a new phone. I really like this phone, its lasted me by far the longest, and best run times of all I have ever had. I was worried about fire, did a full factory reset with no installed apps, but heat was still there. I removed updates to Google Duo, and stopped any future updates as listed above, and its running cool and clean again.
Once again thanks for this post!
Yep can confirm now after a few days... no heat no fast draining... Google Duo was the culprit... is it a but that just affected mediatek cpus? Or do all android phones suffer this bug? is anyones heads rolling at google for this farce?
ITs fine and good...... no options.
While charging and playing games or using heavy data apps.... it wont get heated like expected when connected to electricity.
When on power banks it works otherwise , gets charged and increase in temperature.
One of the best thermal performance I have seen on a smartphone, thanks to the Snapdragon 625 chipset powering the phone. It had no competition back when it was launched.
Using this phone for gaming almost baked my hand
I dropped my OP3 the other day and cracking the screen but... Was not too upset as I have ALWAYS wanted a 6P AND i dine just that. Snatched up a clean one off swappa.
Can't wait...
Bad idea bro ? I mean, it's a nice phone and all but the performance is not that good and bad battery, degrading too fast, dying too quick and early shutdowns. Like mine is shutting down sometimes at 30%... My phone is Really useless ATM.
BrianXDA said:
Bad idea bro I mean, it's a nice phone and all but the performance is not that good and bad battery, degrading too fast, dying too quick and early shutdowns. Like mine is shutting down sometimes at 30%... My phone is Really useless ATM.
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I always regretted not getting the 6P and getting the OP3 and had the chance to try one out and I guess we will see.
How common is the bootloop problem?
I just hope I don't get that bootloop problem I been reading about. I'm not out much and need a phone quick.. I spent 140 so I'm not out much. Trying to decide if I want to go Pixel or OnePlus for my next device.
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How common is the bootloop problem?
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I've had my 6P for 2 years and it hasn't boot looped on me yet. Battery performance is comparable to the day I got it with no early shutdowns (yet), but I always do everything I can to extend the life of the batteries in my phones such as:
- Use a 1 amp charger (no fast charging ever)
- Only charge while the phone is off
- Never use the phone while charging or when the processor/battery is hot
- Avoid charging the phone too often. Try to only charge once a day at most and don't leave the charger plugged in
- Don't let the battery get below 20%
- If using the phone for gaming, stop and give the phone a break if the processor/battery start to get too hot
- More I'm forgetting that can probably be found with a quick Google search
These battery "habits" have been successful in extending the usable life of the batteries in my Note 3, Note 4, Nexus 6, and Nexus 6P. I use a kernel manager like ElementalX Kernel Manager to display the CPU and battery temperatures in the notification area so I can keep an eye on them and stop using the phone if it begins to get too hot.
I pretty much only use my phone for texting, calls, and browsing the internet (no gaming or anything that really puts a lot of stress on it), so that's probably why mine hasn't died yet.
Google hasn't had the best track record with their previous Pixels. They've all seemed to have at least one hardware issue. The Pixel 5s have overheating problems for example. Just wondering if anyone has run into any issues?
Haven't heard of any... but it's early in the game!
My 6 got hot during the initial setup, but once I turned off the 5G it cooled off a bit and I stayed on Wi-Fi.
Only a bit of warmth during initial setup, nothing that concerned me much.
The phone got very hot during charging.
Ok i just received my pixel 6 pro few hours ago and i am noticing heat issue around the back, starting from curve area, as i keep on using i can feel temperature in the back and screen as well. Really disappointed. I dont know what shall i do next
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Ok i just received my pixel 6 pro few hours ago and i am noticing heat issue around the back, starting from curve area, as i keep on using i can feel temperature in the back and screen as well. Really disappointed. I dont know what shall i do next
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I am having the same exact issue. I went to the store and they told me that they will send the phone for assessment and will take a month. Ridiculous
Nope!
Video recording literally stopped after 7 min of 4k 60fps because the phone got too hot.
I got a message telling me to wait until the phone cools down. The screenshot of this message didn't even save..
My pixel 6 pro is getting hot during normal use too. Guess they need to update.
Yes it is getting extremely hot only by using insta, facebook, TikTok. No games installed. Left side of the phone starts getting warm then screen and back.
My phone was delivered on 26th Oct still have same issue. It looks like it'll be a case like snapdragon 810
My phone was overheating and battery drain a lot but since i put 4G on prefered nerwork, battery isn't draining anymore and don't heat no more.
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My Pixel 6 Pro overheats recording 4K 60 and stops after 10-12min. Room temp 25c with no case.
I tried 4K 30 with the same results.
1080p 30 on the other hand can keep on going indefinitely I think. I got a message at 28min that the phone is getting hot, but it didn't stop the recording. Around 40min it reached thermal saturation and was fluctuating between 43c and 44.4c. I stopped it at 48:49min.
I think the new camera sensor overheats before the SoC and stops the recording.
my pixel 6 is overheating on a daily use. battery tab in setting telling me Instagram is sucking the battery, so I guess it's because of Instagram.
pixel 5 performed much better, to be honest. the battery also doesn't last that long. it's kinda disappointing. i thought it could be because my initial install somehow went wrong, so i am actually right now backing all up to do a factory reset. But after finding this thread, i seem not to be the only one, .. struggling with the idea to send it back.
do you think they will fix it? nobody else seems to complain. i mean no review ever said anything about overheating..
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My phone was overheating and battery drain a lot but since i put 4G on prefered nerwork, battery isn't draining anymore and don't heat no more.
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i will give this a try. if this will still drain my battery and overheating the phone I will go back to my pixel 5. glad I didn't sell it that fast
My pixel 6 is overheating on 4G/5G and battery drains fast. Browsing YT, video freeze and hangs. Same scenario, but connected to wireless network, getting +8h SOT, no freeze, no heat.
Just so everyone understands.
The P6 back cover plate is a heat sink.
The back plate is lined with copper to pull heat away from the electronics.
So with this in mind, the back plate can get hot while charging or heavy use.
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my pixel 6 is overheating on a daily use. battery tab in setting telling me Instagram is sucking the battery, so I guess it's because of Instagram.
pixel 5 performed much better, to be honest. the battery also doesn't last that long. it's kinda disappointing. i thought it could be because my initial install somehow went wrong, so i am actually right now backing all up to do a factory reset. But after finding this thread, i seem not to be the only one, .. struggling with the idea to send it back.
do you think they will fix it? nobody else seems to complain. i mean no review ever said anything about overheating..
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Yeah, this has been surprising to me. So either Google is sending an altered version or reviewers don't use the phone that much and just make the video. Literally everyone I know who got the pixel 6/pro can feel the heat within few hours
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Yeah, this has been surprising to me. So either Google is sending an altered version or reviewers don't use the phone that much and just make the video. Literally everyone I know who got the pixel 6/pro can feel the heat within few hours
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I'm kinda glad to hear I'm not the only one, but it's pretty disappointing.
I now factory reset my phone without transferring old data from my old phone, just used backup'ed data from google one.
I need to test that out. definitely changing the preferred network type from 5G to LTE helped a bit. but battery performance still seems to be horrible bad in comparison to the Pixel 5.
it seems like you can not rely on youtube reviews for smartphones nowadays :/ looking at you Marques
I do run my phones with a case so sometimes hard to tell. Only time I experience warmth is running a couple mobile games, but they did this on my Pixel 5 as well. No extreme overheating or extreme battery draining experienced.