How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.
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Contrast is decent levels.But there is a pinkish tint on my display which looks ugly
Not pinkish but a slight reddish tint but nothing major gets quickly adjusted to ur eyes
It's good, but when you are in really dark environment (like under blanket in the middle of night lol) blacks are gray.
ReDuXX528 said:
It's good, but when you are in really dark environment (like under blanket in the middle of night lol) blacks are gray.
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Same with most of the Ips lcd displays..
suvam69 said:
Same with most of the Ips lcd displays..
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Yep, even TN LCD's will still glow in the dark. It's because LCD displays have a backlight in the back that is always on, then the Liquid Crystals on top of that can let light through or block it. Then a polarizing filter because liquid crystals only orient light in one direction and without that you would only see white light.
And by having 3 differently colored subpixels for each pixel, colored red, green, and blue, the primary colors of light, it's able to show a couple of million of colors.
Because the liquid crystals only let light through, not produce it, the white backlight's always on. If it's always on, even when the liquid crystals are blocking all the light, some light from the backlight will come through, making the screen appear greyish or blueish, especially in a dark room.
The only modern type of display to produce true blacks is OLED. Many phones tend to have AMOLED or Super AMOLED displays which are just a type of OLED.
OLED displays have little LEDs made of organic materials that produce their own light. Because of that, if an OLED display shows something black, all the pixels will turn off and no light is produced, showing an actual black image with no glow.
OLEDs also have no ghosting, which happens in LCD's because the liquid crystals can't change their orientation immediately to display a new color.
Unfortunately, while OLEDs do sound like the better choice, they are very expensive to produce compared to LCDs and also, the blue OLED subpixels tend to lose their brightness faster than their red and green counterparts, shortening the life of the display. There are some methods to prolong their lifespan like using a 4th white subpixel, but I've only seen it on very expensive TVs.
I have my original Vita from 2012 and I can see that the blue subpixels have lost their intensity because whites look a bit yellowish now. Makes sense because a brighter green and red will make yellow.
I hope that wasn't too long but I wanted to explain about the different types of display technologies and why most screens glow in the dark instead of showing the color black
not to mention the burn in issues that amoled displays have.... thats why I prefer not so deep black over the burn in.
It's not true black for me considering Xiaomi haven't used an OLED or AMOLED display.
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Do you have such stains? I hear this is normal among AMOLEDs.
welcome to mass produced (aka economically viable) OLEDs...
Some patterning or colour patching is inevitable even from new. Blue or Grey backgrounds tend to show patches up more. Very low brightness shows a greenish cast on the left of the screen too.
It took more than a decade before LCDs could be produced in volume with a very low dead pixel yield.
We have a dozen GS2s at work and they all have minor screen issues. From new. They do get worse or even change position over time (many months) as the pixel level elements shift in luminosity.
Also note that if the phone is warm, the effect lessens.
LenAsh said:
welcome to mass produced (aka economically viable) OLEDs...
Some patterning or colour patching is inevitable even from new. Blue or Grey backgrounds tend to show patches up more. Very low brightness shows a greenish cast on the left of the screen too.
It took more than a decade before LCDs could be produced in volume with a very low dead pixel yield.
We have a dozen GS2s at work and they all have minor screen issues. From new. They do get worse or even change position over time (many months) as the pixel level elements shift in luminosity.
Also note that if the phone is warm, the effect lessens.
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Thank God I don't have dead pixels. At least this patch I got is visible only on dark-gray / medium-light (so-to-say, idk) brown. I'd rather have that than dead pixels .
Actually, if I start Screen Test, the patch is visible on ALL colors. On blue/red/green, it is less visible. On white, it is most visible. Also, when displaying full whites, the color is not homogeneous. Vertical and horizontal lines seem to be present ALL ACROSS the screen. These lines are visible on white, yellow and such colors.
At least I don't have ghosting effect and the whites are actually white, not yellow - as it was on Gingerbread (yeah, software problem, eh?).
So... the patch appeared to have vanished after running the fix (which rapidly ****s four colors) for half an hour, because the screen was a bit warmer... and as it cooled down, the patch has shown its face again. Oh well...
the galaxy note and s2 super amoled screens are prone to burn ins, very common, you need to eliminate risks involved.
Turn off auto brightness, lower the brightness level, shorten the time youre screen stays awake for, and if youre using themes, avid the blue themed ics ones, although they look nice, the blue themes are one of the biggest culprits of the burn in issue and before ya know it youve got a battery image burnt in.
i notice it looks like you have a blue theme or something, my mate had same issue, what can ya do, its a pain and well probably all suffer it, whereas htcs dont have the issue, they just suffer dead pixels a lot, but hey, id soone have slight burn in than dead pixels i guess
graemeg said:
the galaxy note and s2 super amoled screens are prone to burn ins, very common, you need to eliminate risks involved.
Turn off auto brightness, lower the brightness level, shorten the time youre screen stays awake for, and if youre using themes, avid the blue themed ics ones, although they look nice, the blue themes are one of the biggest culprits of the burn in issue and before ya know it youve got a battery image burnt in.
i notice it looks like you have a blue theme or something, my mate had same issue, what can ya do, its a pain and well probably all suffer it, whereas htcs dont have the issue, they just suffer dead pixels a lot, but hey, id soone have slight burn in than dead pixels i guess
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F*** !
MIUI uses white & orange. Are those colors dangerous, too?
I mean... what colors should I avoid the most? Besides blue - I get it, it's bad (again, F***).
Anything that turns the RGB elements hard on (!). So high brightness only and white is worst as this is RGB full on, then pure red, pure blue, pure green. Cyan, yellow and magenta are less risky. In theory.
In practice and the real world, just keep the brightness down a little and you'll get years out of it. And save battery - the screen is THE major power consumer...
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Anything that turns the RGB elements hard on (!). So high brightness only and white is worst as this is RGB full on, then pure red, pure blue, pure green. Cyan, yellow and magenta are less risky. In theory.
In practice and the real world, just keep the brightness down a little and you'll get years out of it. And save battery - the screen is THE major power consumer...
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+1 absolutely right, follow these simple rules and all should be good.
White requires all three elements (RGB), right? Blue = B. Which one should I stick to...? My logics tell me blue, but I hear AMOLED's blue color is so pure because of a compound from algae (rofl) and it wears off more quickly (if any of that makes sense).
Cyan, magenta, yellow... Yeah, I don't have that on AOKP, lol. And neither would I want a yellow theme. Magenta would be nice, though.
RGB... hell, those are the primary colors. How about we use black, with polarised glasses? That'd be a good deal, since I wear glasses, lol.
Seriously, guys, what do YOU do to make sure the screen doesn't get damaged over time? Don't tell me you're using a yellow-black theme. And setting the screen brightness to 50% or more is required outdoors, so...
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I just went to a showroom today. Seen the Galaxy Nexus there. It's on, with the brightness set to maximum, 12 hours a day, and it's been like that ever since they put it there - more than 3 months. Seeing anything strange here?
well, as a rule i dont have wallpapers that have bright vibrant colours, i find it annoying and painful on the eyes, and if you have shortcuts on the homescreen it gets to looking messy, so i stick with dark colours, to be honest most of my wallpapers are black or almost black and my brightness is set at around 20%, and i dont struggle to see it outside in sunlight or anything, but this is just my prefernce, im sure everyone has different tastes, i think you should just enjoy your phone and use it how you wish, but try to avoid having it too bright, it should be ok.
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well, as a rule i dont have wallpapers that have bright vibrant colours, i find it annoying and painful on the eyes, and if you have shortcuts on the homescreen it gets to looking messy, so i stick with dark colours, to be honest most of my wallpapers are black or almost black and my brightness is set at around 20%, and i dont struggle to see it outside in sunlight or anything, but this is just my prefernce, im sure everyone has different tastes, i think you should just enjoy your phone and use it how you wish, but try to avoid having it too bright, it should be ok.
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I'll stick to the stock AOKP theme (blue, that is); but I will be careful not to raise the brightness above the point of 50%. And even if I do, I guess setting it to the maximum point for a few minutes (when the sunlight is very strong) wouldn't hurt...
Oh and mind archiving your black and dark wallpapers and sending them over to me? Please (I'm always happy to pile up such wallpapers)
Hello,
Im Using Amoled Smartphones since the Galaxy (i7500). They all were always showing at 100% Brightness for Black parts of a picture a true Black like the Display is OFF.
If you put the Brightness to 100% and go to an complete Dark Room and open an Black Picture you see some Gray/Yellow Tint on the Screen. You can compare this good by locking the phone to see the Screen OFF and than unlock it to view the Black Picture again. You should see a huge difference. Hope to hear from your experiences.
I've seen that already on the S1 when abusing it a a nightstand clock.
Best guess I've heard is that the (AMO)LED screen leaks some luminosity to other pixels in the background which is then visible as a very faint glow.
However I rather believe that the AMOLED are not truely off but rather get some leak voltage and thus have a very-very-very faint glow (like one photon per second xD )
That would explain the black spots most people seem to mind on AMOLED when on minimum brightness with a black screen; they are truely off or without insufficient leak voltagage (LED's requie a minimum voltage to work).
AMOLED production is somewhat complicated (very thin layer of silver as a power source and a control-layer) so I wouldn't be surprised if the above is true.
Nothing is perfect, especially not a rather new technology.
What else did you expect from a backlit display.
jbadboy2007 said:
What else did you expect from a backlit display.
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It's not backlit is the point.
Correct me if im wrong here but amoled is, by design, not backlit.
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Yeah so I was wondering why it does this little/ hard noticeable yellow/gray tint on a dark room...
There is no Backlight... Unfortunely i Sold my Galaxy S2 so I cant compare it.. But im Sure it wasnt like this
I have this on my gsiii and also on the Gnote... I think is due to the pentile screen
I had this on my Fascinate but realized it wasn't a big issue. Definitely more noticeable on my Gnex but it also has more pixels so that could be why you see more light. I wouldn't call it a problem because the majority of the time it's absolutely unnoticeable. Each pixel has so have some sort of voltage to be ready to react to changes. Turning off/on completely each time light is needed might waste battery.
P.S. I'm noob at displays but that's my theory.
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I had this on my Fascinate but realized it wasn't a big issue. Definitely more noticeable on my Gnex but it also has more pixels so that could be why you see more light. I wouldn't call it a problem because the majority of the time it's absolutely unnoticeable. Each pixel has so have some sort of voltage to be ready to react to changes. Turning off/on completely each time light is needed might waste battery.
P.S. I'm noob at displays but that's my theory.
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I was curious about this issue as well. It's my understanding that OLEDs do not produce any light in their inactive state.
Regarding your theory, I wonder if it's similar to plasma displays. Even though plasmas are capable of true black (they do not use a backlight) The individual plasma cells have better response times if they aren't fully discharged on blacks. So they have a faint glow that comes from the low power they are using to keep the pixel charged up and ready to go when a color change is needed.
This actually costs a little power though, rather than saving it. So if thats what they are doing, it is for screen quality reasons so that movies and other things look better.
Did some Googling and I couldn't find much information, but there is talk of delivering pre-charge voltage to the OLED pixels to improve response times. So it could be that they are indeed similar to plasma displays in that respect: Capable of true black, but the benefits of not using true black are too good to pass up.
Are you SURE the picture is actually true black? By that i mean pure 100% black in an uncompressed image? If not then you cant expect the phone to display true black. A JPEG of black may not be enough.
My screen it totally off when displaying true black.
I can confirm the screen showing a faint glow on S3 with a true black screen.
Use Firefox with Fullscreen extension (Chrome and the default browser don't seem to have fullscreen mode yet) and go to http://d4f.pf-control.de/black.html
That's rendered on the phone so we can expect it to be the blackest black an app can produce, however in a (very) dark room you'll see a very faint glow coming from the screen and you'll be able to see the black spots (truely black) that people keep complaining about.
The theory about it being a precharge voltage does indeed sound plausible since LED's have a certain reaction time which unfortunately cannot be compensated by e.g. Overdrive as is used in LCD screens.
Note that the S3's "black" is still far better than any LCD.
No mine is still jet black, no light at all.
Go to a COMPLETELY dark room and make sure the screen is actually turned on when on the website (not timed out).
Then take a long-exposure photograph of your phone (still make sure the screen is turned ON!).
I don't have a long exposure camera, but the room is completely dark and my eyes have adjusted, there is no light.
All sgs3 ( as sgs2) screens emit a very week glow on a black pictures ( with the screen on )
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It would seem to me that the 'ink spots' many have are not overly dark spots at all, they are what the screen should be. My screen emits no visible light when displaying a true black image, at least nothing my eyes can see, even at the edge of my vision field where light cell are most sensitive. My screen is on maximum brightness.
My screen has no patches, no streaks, no spots, no pink or excessively blue tint. I guess i have a screen thats as near to perfect as they get.
yes there is very faint glow indeed making the screen a bit greyish instead of pitch black
Excuse me if I am being naive but where is real life use would this ever be a negative impact?
jfenton57 said:
Excuse me if I am being naive but where is real life use would this ever be a negative impact?
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no negative impact, but still raises a question "why so?"
jfenton57 said:
Excuse me if I am being naive but where is real life use would this ever be a negative impact?
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I don't think anyone is trying to paint it as an issue that needs to be resolved. It's more of an odd technical mystery rather than a real problem. The blacks are still extremely deep on an AMOLED, just like with Plasma it puts LCD to shame in that department.
I am not referring to the pink hue issue, rather my screen looks as though whites are dirty? Like there are some spots a lighter hue than the area next to them. It makes pure white look as though it is dirty.
It is most noticeable at lower brightness settings, and it appears to be noticeable on any lighter color as well, such as the quick settings light blue.
I am curious if this is just normal amoled unevenness, or if it is something wrong. I've tried to get a picture but I can't get it to show with the poor cameras I have.
Not sure where to ask this, so here goes. Picked up a Z Play for my wife and it's great. Then picked up a Z for myself and while it looks and runs great, there seems to be a definite green tint to the screen when viewed off-center. And I don't mean 30-40 degrees off, but as slight as 5-10 degree off center, in any direction and it has a definite green tint, regardless of brightness setting. Previous AMOLED phones for either of us never had issues until extreme angles, and her Z Play is far better, not turning green til about 40-50 degrees, which is what I would expect.
Is this common or an issue? It's only been a few days, so I can go change it if it's a known issue of any kind. I guess I can also go compare it to display phones.
Mine doesn't appear to have this issue, perhaps a slightly noticeable change when 40° off but not at 5/10.
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Mine doesn't appear to have this issue, perhaps a slightly noticeable change when 40° off but not at 5/10.
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Me neither, nothing remarkable happening when tilting it in either direction.
When the Moto Razr XT910 was new, there were many reports of varying panel quality problems, such as strong green or yellow tints
They did get new phones when they returned them, as it was a quality issue, could be the same thing now.
If I'm not mistaken, those with lots of green had field/cloud faults when viewing a black image in a dark room at full backlight, as they failed to reach zero brightness.
It was described as the pixels leaking electrons to surrounding pixels.
Viewing angles on the Z is worse than my old Moto X 2014 for sure, but it's probably due to the smaller pixels.
Nothing beats the old HTC One M7 though, that thing never faded, but it had an IPS screen.
However, in standard colour mode, it's heavily yellowish to reddish (some would call it warm colour temp)
In dynamic it's closer to white, but with a strong nudge to the blue spectrum.
Can't wait to get the custom colour temperature setting with Android 7.0!
I have a new GS9+ (SD, unlocked) which I love.
BUT, does anyone else notice that when viewing the screen anywhere greater than ~10 degrees from perpendicular, the screen turns blue-ish?
The blue-filter option does not seem to affect this effect.
Color shift is a inherent issue with AMOLED displays.
GibMcFragger said:
Color shift is a inherent issue with AMOLED displays.
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Perhaps, but on my GS7e it's unnoticeable. When doing a side by side with the GS9+ and GS7e the older screen keeps it color at an angle... the new screen does not. :-|
First world problems.