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I'm thinking of another ROM line, to be good enough to use for business (so it has to be very stable) and with toned down, professional graphics. This will very much be a "clean" ROM, with no extra BS apps or addons. Can I hear some suggestions please ?
Looking forward to it..
As you already know, I'm not a huge fan of the HTC apps/enhancements, so I would leave those out with the option of installing via cab, or have them in the ROM with a working toggle to turn them off.
I would say do as many of the "under the hood" tweaks you can do without sacrificing stability.
As for graphics, I already like your taskbar in your WM6.5 series, and I think that could stay. I'm not sure what changes you would have in mind for graphics, but I think the graphics you have now are pretty clean.
Are you thinking of a WM6.5 ROM or a WM6.1 ROM? I didn't see that mentioned, so I thought I would ask since you've done both in the past.
i think you should go with stock graphics people customize if they choose. my ideal business rom would be like juicy's cdma one
"It's business, It's business time!" - Flight of the Conchords
I think this is a GREAT idea. Would this be 6.1 or 6.5? 6.5 is very close to being capable of generating a "stable" ROM.
Even though this is business oriented, I think anyone would much appreciate the style (icons, themes, graphics) that you put into your ROMs. Same would hold true for most of the enhancements. Maybe trim down some of the fluff.
simple is the Best
go for it am sure will be a good Rom.
Good Luck
WOW, another one. jeez, you gonna be busy LOL. I get frustrated sometimes with just the one version. More power to ya
What about a stock looking version? I know some people would like a ROM that is much better than the crappy one that comes preinstalled. I think you might get a lot of hits from a lighter ROM that looks semi-stock. As stable as stock, but with all the enhancements and tweaks you can squeeze into it. Possibly a 6.5 and 6.1 version.
I think it's a very good idea and in my opinion the ROM must be based on WM 6.1. Email/SMS/MMS/Vido call/WIfi/ must work without a hitch. You could include opera 9.7b and maybe IE 8.
These are my suggestions. Merci.
P.S. i only use your roms!
mdalacu said:
I think it's a very good idea and in my opinion the ROM must be based on WM 6.1. Email/SMS/MMS/Vido call/WIfi/ must work without a hitch. You could include opera 9.7b and maybe IE 8.
These are my suggestions. Merci.
P.S. i only use your roms!
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Newer versions of PIE only work with 6.5 as far as I know. I agree that the most stable ROM is going to be 6.1, but if you go with 6.5 I would suggest an older build. 23001 seems like a turd to me. Went back to 21820 and its twice as fast with no bugs.
3 important things for a business ROM:
1. As clean as possible (only essential progs. installed, like Pim Backup, Adobe Reader, Pocket RAR, Google Maps, GPS Test)
2. Stable = reliable
3. Good battery life
jmckeejr said:
23001 seems like a turd to me. Went back to 21820 and its twice as fast with no bugs.
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lol i know what you mean
I have reverted back to 21018. After playing around with 4 later builds and a little go with 6.5 I am back here to old faithful. Very fast, battery burns lean, and every build i have tried later than this had some problem or other. slow/buggy or battery destroyer.
Easy to Use Dialer
Dialer:...................Accurate - consistent - easy to use - good speaker phone / mute / automated menu support
Three interfaces:....TF3D2 – Titanium – Win Phone Basic Text interface
Graphics:...............Clean with color - Landscape mode 6.1 style (quick easy buttons) Portrait Mode Action softkey
GPS:.....................Good stand alone support (no data plan)
MMS:....................Support for the largest attachments the carriers will allow
SMS:....................Good support for text conversations
Weather:...............Good support for text and graphic reports in all interfaces
Stocks:.................Good support for text and graphic reports in all interfaces
Wifi / Networking:...Corporate and HotSpot support
Programs Tab:........(TD3D2) 3 or 4 column option with app names under icons
Good battery life Business does not mean Boring – It means Practical Predictable Performance
Apps
I would say:
Remote Desktop
World Card
Adobe Reader
Office Suite (obviously)
Google Maps AND Live Search
All of the basics for GPS- QuickGPS, aGPS settings, etc.
Live Messenger (for Office Communicator support)
Those are the 'business' tools that I use most. Does that help?
yes yes yes
thank you for start takeing this as trend
please under the hood basic application
some applications in my rom i cant even remember when i used them
the most imprtant is Battary vs application ( i have charger at the car,home , office., .......poof....)
any small clock tic will eat somthing from the phone
Ram and heat.
my x1 cracked because of the heat, my ear after a good call get fride.
some rams goes above 60%
example i tried yesterday to put my phone in full withe new cocked rom( backlight full and battery power on ) the battarey draind in less than 2 hours, without any call or sms ... nothing
but applications like email,office,sms,organizer and contacts will be fine
yes please Business Edition is great what ever under the hood
Loved the Energy Rom3......but it was lacking (I could not find anyways) Voice Command applet. I use blue-tooth headset continually and have calls/messaging/reminders etc routed thru blue-tooth headset. Would love to see that in the business edition. That's mostly what this phone is used for.
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example i tried yesterday to put my phone in full withe new cocked rom... ...nothing
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Those **** roms are terrible...
This is an awesome idea... The chrome version was cool... but perhaps more emphasis on productivity. A nice action screen that brings up all of the things you would use on a daily basis and keeps them right at your fingertips... I know I need to take notes at a moments notice in my job... and it's hard to get things where I need them to be sometimes...
Also contacts and appointments are of the utmost importance... Constantly scheduling things and changing them around, it's nice to have things in an easily accessible spot...
Though I don't spend much time on the phone lately... I would imagine bluetooth would be crucial as well... and having as much control from the headset as possible would also be nice...
Then of course some "hey check me out *****es" graphics and apps that are streamlined and professional looking enough to show your boss when you pull the phone out and he asks "what the hell is that thing?"
That's just my $ 750,500,000 ZWD
Quite honestly, your current ROM is fit for business and displays appropriate graphics and tones. The add-ons are typically ones the manufacturers have missed and allow a much better experience than stock. I work with professionals everyday and when I show off ROM's from XDA, they often say if I had seen that at ATT or T-Mobile, I would have purchased this phone vs. Blackberry or iPhone.
This sounds like what I've been waiting for!
A simple WM6.5 interface that is stable and fast. No touchflo, as we all know that is not for business users. I think the best thing for this special business line, is that all the under the hood settings come pre-configured, and don't give us the option to make advanced config changes. I seriously waste so much time trying to tinker with the settings, and eventually make the device less stable.
Also this line should have one application for each function. I rarely need 15 chat clients, and 10 media apps!
Great idea.. Make sure to add Stock and Weather to Chome 6.5 These are helpful for those business travelers on the go with an eye on the market.. The JML Stocks plugin is sweet!!!!
Is this really needed?
I'm nearly new with this machine, but a very heavy Bussiness user of HTC PDAs for 5 years.
Comming from an Hermes, I have flashed your Energy Magic Rom 20090630 after two week of trying the stock one and threads reading here, and for me your main rom is fast, accurate, conservative with battery and completly perfect for work.
If someone feel titanium or tf3d improductive, it could be dissable. And the same could be done with the new menus and notification style.... To change three or four options in the default behaviour of your rom, that could be made with a few clicks here and there, don't justify a new line of roms.
Just my though...
Hi!
I'm thinking about switching back from Android to WinMo 6.5 because in my opinion Sense + CHT2 is superior to any other homescreen and I miss it a lot. But I am not sure because there are a lot of things I think I'll miss. First of all the stability of Android. I have never had problems with things crashing or the need to restart the phone. Also I like that everything works good for me out of the box. Well, and here are my questions regarding WinMo:
- Is there a browser which works as good and fast as the stock android browser? For me it is important that I can view all web pages as they would be displayed on my computer (no mobile pages and such crap). Also flash support would be awesome.
- Does syncing gmail via ActiveSync support push mail and multiple gmail accounts?
- Is there a free alternative to the provided rss app?
The most important things for me are:
- stable system
- very good and fast browsing experience (with working flash)
- sync contacts and calendar with gmail (which syncs also with evolution on my pc)
I think I'm going to miss the facebook app from android because the WinMo one is really crap but I can live with that, I'm not a heavy fb user.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Mark Twain said:
Hi!
I'm thinking about switching back from Android to WinMo 6.5 because in my opinion Sense + CHT2 is superior to any other homescreen and I miss it a lot. But I am not sure because there are a lot of things I think I'll miss. First of all the stability of Android. I have never had problems with things crashing or the need to restart the phone. Also I like that everything works good for me out of the box. Well, and here are my questions regarding WinMo:
- Is there a browser which works as good and fast as the stock android browser? For me it is important that I can view all web pages as they would be displayed on my computer (no mobile pages and such crap). Also flash support would be awesome.
- Does syncing gmail via ActiveSync support push mail and multiple gmail accounts?
- Is there a free alternative to the provided rss app?
The most important things for me are:
- stable system
- very good and fast browsing experience (with working flash)
- sync contacts and calendar with gmail (which syncs also with evolution on my pc)
I think I'm going to miss the facebook app from android because the WinMo one is really crap but I can live with that, I'm not a heavy fb user.
Thanks a lot in advance!
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Ive always found Opera 9.7 to be better than any of the android browsers... except maybe Dolphin..
I can give you a cab to get rid of the default user agent and prevent it displaying sites in mobile view if you want. Unfortuneately flash support is not possible, there is a flash compatible browser called Uzard but its pretty buggy. I guess you could install it and just use when you need flash...
Not sure about syncing your contacts and calendar with gmail as I have never bothered but I have seen something around here about it.
CHT2.0 contains an RSS widget which links in with the stock RSS reader, Im not a heavy RSS user so I dont really know how it compares with the android equivalent but its fine for me.
As for a stable system........ cooked ROMS are the way to go.
Energy, Artemis, Duttys and Elegancia are all popular choices...
Ive just switched from Energy to Elegancia and its incredibly smooth and stable.
Remember, you can always keep an android build on your SD card and have the best of both worlds.
Hope that helps in some way.....
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Ive always found Opera 9.7 to be better than any of the android browsers... except maybe Dolphin..
I can give you a cab to get rid of the default user agent and prevent it displaying sites in mobile view if you want. Unfortuneately flash support is not possible, there is a flash compatible browser called Uzard but its pretty buggy. I guess you could install it and just use when you need flash...
Not sure about syncing your contacts and calendar with gmail as I have never bothered but I have seen something around here about it.
CHT2.0 contains an RSS widget which links in with the stock RSS reader, Im not a heavy RSS user so I dont really know how it compares with the android equivalent but its fine for me.
As for a stable system........ cooked ROMS are the way to go.
Energy, Artemis, Duttys and Elegancia are all popular choices...
Ive just switched from Energy to Elegancia and its incredibly smooth and stable.
Remember, you can always keep an android build on your SD card and have the best of both worlds.
Hope that helps in some way.....
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Yes, Opera 9.7 is a very good browser. Although on some websites it did not display everything correctly.
Well, flash is not a killer criteria but would be nice. You may not need it for months but when you need it one time and you can't...
RSS is important for me as I enjoy reading the news on my phone. I also use twitter a lot for news, so I love the twitter tab in sense
I used energy before switching to android and all at all I was pretty satisfied with it (although the dialer looks awful IMHO ). But sometimes you see WinMo behind the sense-curtain and some things lag or even crash and that is something I do not have with Android. Well, I think I'm gonna give it a try (I have a CWR backup for the worst case) and use parallel some SD builds of android.
Sharing that cab would be awesome! Thanks a lot! I know otherwise you have to do some registry tweaks...
Heres that cab for the user agent.
Also, if your a heavy twitter user you might want to try moTweets. Theres a free ad supported version, contains a few more features than the twitter tab.
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Yes, Opera 9.7 is a very good browser. Although on some websites it did not display everything correctly.
Well, flash is not a killer criteria but would be nice. You may not need it for months but when you need it one time and you can't...
RSS is important for me as I enjoy reading the news on my phone. I also use twitter a lot for news, so I love the twitter tab in sense
I used energy before switching to android and all at all I was pretty satisfied with it (although the dialer looks awful IMHO ). But sometimes you see WinMo behind the sense-curtain and some things lag or even crash and that is something I do not have with Android. Well, I think I'm gonna give it a try (I have a CWR backup for the worst case) and use parallel some SD builds of android.
Sharing that cab would be awesome! Thanks a lot! I know otherwise you have to do some registry tweaks...
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Have you ever tried Iconsoft Phonex 2.2 dialer? it's worthy, give it a try.
Thanks
Mark Twain said:
Hi!
I'm thinking about switching back from Android to WinMo 6.5 because in my opinion Sense + CHT2 is superior to any other homescreen and I miss it a lot. But I am not sure because there are a lot of things I think I'll miss. First of all the stability of Android. I have never had problems with things crashing or the need to restart the phone. Also I like that everything works good for me out of the box. Well, and here are my questions regarding WinMo:
- Is there a browser which works as good and fast as the stock android browser? For me it is important that I can view all web pages as they would be displayed on my computer (no mobile pages and such crap). Also flash support would be awesome.
- Does syncing gmail via ActiveSync support push mail and multiple gmail accounts?
- Is there a free alternative to the provided rss app?
The most important things for me are:
- stable system
- very good and fast browsing experience (with working flash)
- sync contacts and calendar with gmail (which syncs also with evolution on my pc)
I think I'm going to miss the facebook app from android because the WinMo one is really crap but I can live with that, I'm not a heavy fb user.
Thanks a lot in advance!
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Here is the tutorial for google sync, check it, if this is what you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678339
Thanks
Thanks a lot! I already discovered this thread earlier (and I found a discussion somewhere else on the internet). And I think this alternative dialer is worth a try!
So I was thinking, we seem to have identified a few issues with the SGS2 in terms of battery life. There are a few different fixes being bandied around, including:
Change the Fast Dormancy network settings to poll less frequently
Freeze or remove a number of Samsung apps
Freeze or remove wifi manager and sharing apps
[Others?]
I lack the ability to do this myself, maybe one day I'll figure it all out, but it occurs to me that if we could produce a custom rom with these tweaks, specifically geared towards helping with the battery life, that would give us a new baseline to work from.
That way, instead of retreading the same ground (have you frozen xyz, try the fast form tweak, etc etc) we can simply say "flash this rom, see if that helps".
This isn't another "when will have custom roms" moan, it's just the battery life threads are starting to get a little counter productive and hopefully amalgamating all these potential fixes into one rom would reduce some of that repetition.
Thoughts?
Hi all
I am placing an order for the SGS II. Was previously an iOS4 user now switching to Android for superior performance
I was wondering what should I do/modify when I first get my SGS2 ? I am reading a bit on rooting (is this the jailbreak term for android..??). I want to download free games and apps like Whatsapp and Tapatalk.
Which rom should I be looking at ? Lite'ning ? CM7 ? Or should I just leave it stock Gingerbread 2.3 or whatever ? I want the best performance out of my SGS2 and should I be overclocking it? Maybe not coz I want awesome battery life as well..
What advice or suggestions would you seasoned folks give me ?
Hi and Welcome to xda.
You wont need to root to achieve what you want but it will open up a world of possibilities. To install any app you just have to tick unknown sources within applications in the settings.
All the info about rooting can be found here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
which will include clockwork recovery which is a recovery image that will allow you to flash mods/kernels/roms etc. It has a bunch of other features like nandroid backup (backup your whole system and recover it at any point), wipe battery stats and much more.
Here is what my Galaxy S2 has consumed today which has made it more pleasing for me :
[26/7][XXKG3] VillainROM 2.3 for SGS2 < The ROM Noonski couldn't drain the battery on
followed by the latest modem which is within that thread.
[Kernel][GPL] Ninphetamine-2.0.2 - Now with 100% less Samsungyness
[MOD] CirclesMod - stock KE2, KF1, KG1/2, CM7, Villain, Cognition, Lite'ning, TK In blue
6/26-Update-Pendo's TransBlue Market (flashable zip)
and finally one of my own :
Black dialer for KE4/KE7/KE8/KF1/Villain
Overclocking is not necessary imo with this phone as its fast enough for me as it is at the moment and I don't want any extra battery drain.
I hope some of this helps.
I was exactly in youe situation last week, switching from i4 to SGS2.
Now I've bit the bullet, and have both.
If you're looking for superior performance...hahaha! is all I can say.
Keep in mind the following:
-stock firmware will not get you to 24h of battery life. More like 16-17h.
-operating system still has to catch up with iOS in terms of speed and fluidity
-if you're coming from iOS, please be aware that on Android you cannot configure Yahoo Mail or Hotmail on push, only IMAP pull.
-music management is a joke compared to iOS, even on third-party players as PowerAmp. Android has an issue with coverart, tags are not transferred correctly, playlists are...let's say barbaric compared to iPod & Co.
I am not unhappy that I tried Android on the best Android device out there today, it's only that it has its drawbacks compared to iOS.
Let me get this right. I can only have 1 root (jailbreak) and multiple roms (addons) ?
1- You can have multiple Custom ROM's without rooting. You should do rooting, if you want to access system files (like Administrative mode) and mod them and etc. I'd advice you to root.
2- Each and every ROM has it's own feature and drawbacks, so that depends on you which you want more. I, for myself, always use Stock ROM.
3- As you are new to Android (like me), I'd suggest you to not flash this and that whenever you want. Just keep it simple to get the best.
All above are only IMO, others may and will vary.
Regards.
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I was exactly in youe situation last week, switching from i4 to SGS2.
Now I've bit the bullet, and have both.
If you're looking for superior performance...hahaha! is all I can say.
Keep in mind the following:
-stock firmware will not get you to 24h of battery life. More like 16-17h.
-operating system still has to catch up with iOS in terms of speed and fluidity
-if you're coming from iOS, please be aware that on Android you cannot configure Yahoo Mail or Hotmail on push, only IMAP pull.
-music management is a joke compared to iOS, even on third-party players as PowerAmp. Android has an issue with coverart, tags are not transferred correctly, playlists are...let's say barbaric compared to iPod & Co.
I am not unhappy that I tried Android on the best Android device out there today, it's only that it has its drawbacks compared to iOS.
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There are mostly drawbacks from running stock as opposed to iphone. Iphones are "plug and play" smartphones, android is... Depending on your needs. As for playlist support, built in it can be a pain, but then again you're coming from a very restrictive environment to a very permissive one... So you're bound to have snags.
Should I root to a Lite'ning ROM out of the box or just try stock first ??
I have heard some good things about Lite'ning
i would use stock for about a week to understand what you're modifying and whats android really like . then go play around with roms. what roms you ask? specifically ones that have big changes to start with. I.E. stock android (no TW), MIUI, CM7, etc etc.
once you understand the majority of your options, you can delve into lesser things like roms with more specific/personal modifications .
the idea is to have you understand your options since android is such an open system, you have a loooot of choices
I'm all up for fair comparisons, but please don't mind the iOS comments. not because of what it says but because:
1.) it isn't the topic of this thread
2.) he seems to be a beginner as well, but without the open attitude like you do to learning about android.
i would like to see what is the most used rom for the touchpad and which is the least used. and the pros and cons of each one
I use Cyanogenmod purely because of the support & ongoing development behind it. I love AOKP's Rom Control but theres always something missing in theirs (my wifi never worked untill build 37, but build 37 has no music player/widget, so I removed it). I can always load better battery mods, etc on stock CM9 and go & from there.
Also, it looks like the camera & mic might come first on the official nightlies.
webos is better but the problème in applications so i cant use it . if they make a way to use android apps on webos i will use it
so i use build 37
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I like CM9, AOKP's extra features i dont really use. I just need android, and to run my apps. AOKP always has bugs to.
Besides, AOKP is always just using CM as a base, so its always behind. Right now being up to date is more important as things are constantly being fixed and added to CM in terms of hardware support.
One thing i wish for is webos style multitasking in android. In webos i can play youtube videos or other media from a web browser card and it will play in the background if i switch tasks or open a different application. And i would love to have a working mic and camera in cm9. Other than that im always trying different roms currently on aokpcb.
i am starting to see that aokp is more buggy than cm9
I use CM9 and official Nightly.
For me, it's thé Best.
I use Go Luncher HD.
I use webos for browsing and email. Unless the web page doesn't load well on advanced browser. Other than that I'll use android to clear out my Zynga games and whatnot. Any apps that aren't on webos. I like webos's stability and cards. Hopefully cm9 will get there someday. I use the nighties btw.
I've not followed webos since CM7 was released. Has it made ANY advancements since then? Ironic that other than wifi, I always found Android more stable and snappy than webos. Maybe that has changed from updates or patches since then?
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I've not followed webos since CM7 was released. Has it made ANY advancements since then? Ironic that other than wifi, I always found Android more stable and snappy than webos. Maybe that has changed from updates or patches since then?
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webOS is basically at a stand still until HP makes it fully open source. Probably around september. Then we might see some good stuff come out of it. Until then, I am using CM9 for the apps. I still switch to webOS a lot though just because I love the OS.
Aokp because of rom control with trebuchet launcher. So many ways to customize to my liking
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Aokp because of rom control with trebuchet launcher. So many ways to customize to my liking
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what is rom control and how does it make your personel android experience better ?
Rom control is a set of tweaks and personalizations that include many that aren't in cm9 I believe. Little stuff like circlemod battery and startup tweaks just fit to my liking a bit more than cm9. But performance wise they are both excellent on the tp.
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I use eyeballer and it is very up to date. An update is released every single day. In fact, you can just download the updates incrementally so you don't have to download the whole damn rom every time. Very smooth rom, no problems.
G2x
I used AOKP until it become ugly. Especially annoying were delayed and or cut sounds in games, and even while watching videos.
CM9 is good and stable (I use official). I only miss OC/UV kernel.
OaT's Light n Tasty
I've been using light ROMs since from my Captivate, Atrix 4G and TP.
OaT's Light n Tasty is based on CM9 with lesser size. It is like mini-fridge, you can have your basic needs and saves energy (battery). It has cornerstone version for multi-screen applications (yes up three applications running in your screen with divider only).
So any fixes in CM9 is being updated by O.A.T (the maker of ROM) and he answers questions within 24 hours...
He supports noobs and senior members.
Unfortunately I don't have light ROM for my skyrocket yet!
After using cm9 for quite a while I decided to go back to webOS for a bit and see what I would miss. Everyone talks about the number of apps. But that count is skewed by a lot of redundancy. So far here are the results.
Communities in webOS is superior to Tapatalk.
Zite sufficiently replaces Pulse.
E-notes fills the need for Evernote access.
Plenty of offline bible readers.
Android flightboard is cool but can get the same info from flightstats.com.
I have a couple books with Nook and Kobo but all the tech stuff is Amazon or in PDF format so all good.
I do miss the weather and calendar widgets but they aren't deal breakers.
Don't use office documents much but its there if needed.
Got Angry Birds and solitare.
Email, calendar and browsers all good.
WebOS is a cleaner user interface compared with Android (I know,matter of opinion).
Bottom line is, eliminate the redundancy and garbage apps, then look at what you really use and Android no longer stands that far out.
As starbukk says, webos offers most of the features I need for daily use. My only issue with webos is the lack of a good PDF viewer/editor. I am a purchasing officer for an export company and use my touch pad daily teathered to a palm pre plus. I find that, for business, webos provides everything I need to get things done. For games, I boot into android mainly because I enjoy Modern Combat 3 which is not offered in webos. Many games available in webos are very good and there is game loft and EA support for newer games in webos.
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Android destroys webos imo...
I value customization, and I like choice. The single homescreen on webos gets boring quick. I do like the cards interface for multitasking though.
I would still choose android any day of the week
great thread
This is a great thread, thanks OP.
I mostly use cm9, it's excellent but:
- slightly buggy
- known missing features
- hate the way android handles/kills background processes
The cm guys are really great and the whole system is impressive
But from time to time i go back to webos, theres something really good about it. It feels robust and well designed, and it proper multitasks. Its smoother but slower. And everything works reliably about it.
Webos relaxes me somehow. Cm9 still has an edge of doubt.
Havent tried anything else but if moboot can handle adding them i will!