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Hi guys. I want to install a custom ROM on my Grand Quattro. But when i looked at them, I found out that moste are just interface improvements, without actual OS update. What's the problem here? The GQ's bootloader haven't been unlocked yet? Can't any ROM be ported? There is really no actual android update for this device?
Thanks already!
First of all, you should know a few things about Samsung.
1. They dont lock the bootloader, that's one of the reasons they're easy to deal and twiddle with. (The branded, carrier ones although however do, as they're Carrier property)
2. Their in-house processors, the Exynos family, have no documentation on how their built. meaning, developers cannot base their work correctly and have to go trial-and-error reverse engineering, it takes **** loads of time.
3. They don't give a single crap about their low-use phones and barely update them. The last update is a Jelly Bean release that is older then a year.
There is no space to criticize the devs for custom roms. They tried AOSP with no luck on reverse-engineering.
The only critic you can shoot is that the latest Stock ROM is not being used as a base.
PlutoDelic said:
First of all, you should know a few things about Samsung.
1. They dont lock the bootloader, that's one of the reasons they're easy to deal and twiddle with. (The branded, carrier ones although however do, as they're Carrier property)
2. Their in-house processors, the Exynos family, have no documentation on how their built. meaning, developers cannot base their work correctly and have to go trial-and-error reverse engineering, it takes **** loads of time.
3. They don't give a single crap about their low-use phones and barely update them. The last update is a Jelly Bean release that is older then a year.
There is no space to criticize the devs for custom roms. They tried AOSP with no luck on reverse-engineering.
The only critic you can shoot is that the latest Stock ROM is not being used as a base.
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thank you sir for this explanation i finally understand the reason why no developer could do this ..
karedo said:
thank you sir for this explanation i finally understand the reason why no developer could do this ..
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Try mete mod rom man nice rom
Sir how to install custom rom
I've been thinking about the myriad of "old" gadgets that are alive thanks to the variety of ROMs available these days.
But a fact that intrigues me is why this device has very few ROMs available ... it really is something that draws the attention precisely because it has a good potential to receive them.
I have been around the G2 Mini forums since, pretty much, when the device was released. If you have a look at the oldest posts, some of them are mine.
In that time, I have seen many devs, at first trying to unlock the bootloader of the device, with Zaaap finally succeeding, by figuring out how the Russians at 4pda hacked the bootloader of the L90, and then he, and others, made some ROMs.
Since then, the only ROM dev that seems to still be working on our device is @mobiusm . Other that him, I still work on my kernel, with the help of @likeadracula . (However, he is very busy and I don't have any features to add, so there is little work done lately)
I don't know why there aren't any other devs, although, I believe it's because of the initial price (250-300 €) so no dev got it, and, even when the price dropped, it was already "old".
So, yeah, that's what I think.
P.S.: This is not a development thread, but a discussion. It belongs in G2 Mini General.
EDIT: Thread moved by mod.
For me, one developer who works on ROMs and one on Kernels, seems like a lot for a nearly 4 year old, non flagship device.
Also, having the newest Recovery & newest ROM which are worked out properly + a neat kernel with all the features you desire should not be taken for granted.
I am very grateful for all the development that has been done and will be done and I wouldn't know why I should get a new phone, 'cause this one works just fine, at least for me.
My surprise in relation to this fact is related that this device does not differ in anything from the L90 in terms of hardware, and the boot unblocking is the same, same procedures, so it is common to see roms for L90 and not for the G2m. This is something I'm surprised about. Obviously I am happy that there is still developer for this device, particularly the rom of my preference that is the LOS, did not abandon it, so 2..3 or more roms for it does not make as much difference since I just like to use the LOS on my devices, for the stability, performance and commitment of the team to all supported devices, however, is my view, other people have divergent thoughts.
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My surprise in relation to this fact is related that this device does not differ in anything from the L90 in terms of hardware, and the boot unblocking is the same, same procedures, so it is common to see roms for L90 and not for the L90. G2m, this is something I'm surprised about. Obviously I am happy that there is still developer for this device, particularly the rom of my preference that is the LOS, did not abandon it, so 2..3 or more roms for it does not make as much difference since I just like to use the LOS on my devices, for the stability, performance and commitment of the team to all supported devices, however, is my view, other people have divergent thoughts.
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Actually, precisely because of the similar hardware, it's very easy for the L90 ROMs to be ported to the G2M.
One the devs that have made ROMs for the g2m recently told me that he is using the L90 for initial testing and then uses the blobs for the g2m to make it work. (I don't actually know, but I think that the only problem with the L90 blobs is the camera or the WiFi, if anything)
In fact, it's so easy that anyone, with the most basic knowledge of Linux, can get it to work. I think. I haven't actually tried.
So, find a ROM of the L90 that you like and give it a shot. Just follow an online tutorial and you should be able to port it.
If you need any help, just let me know. Or anyone on the forum (though, some, myself included, are busy)
I was thinking once before to try Slim Rom from l90, but I was afraid to ruin my phone
Boki11111 said:
I was thinking once before to try Slim Rom from l90, but I was afraid to ruin my phone
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Just make a backup in recovery
If it works, let us know!
I might even make a small zip that modifies the build props to say the correct information.
P.S.: As always, I take no responsibility. Your phone, your fault. (Disclaimer)
Vagelis1608 said:
Just make a backup in recovery
If it works, let us know!
I might even make a small zip that modifies the build props to say the correct information.
P.S.: As always, I take no responsibility. Your phone, your fault. (Disclaimer)
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If I try, I'll report
Complicated ... but as I said, it was only a sudden surprise because there were few roms, however, for my daily use, LOS I like, of course some options are always welcome, but if it is not possible, good size too.
Vagelis1608 said:
Just make a backup in recovery
If it works, let us know!
I might even make a small zip that modifies the build props to say the correct information.
P.S.: As always, I take no responsibility. Your phone, your fault. (Disclaimer)
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not working,error in start installing zip,probably should first edit build.prop and kernel
Boki11111 said:
not working,error in start installing zip,probably should first edit build.prop and kernel
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In the install script in the zip, there is a command "assert" that checks the device.
Remove that line and it will install.
I would like your opinion if it is worth changing my devices; Moto G Falcon and the LG D618, both in perfect condition, for a Moto G4 Play?
Oshmar said:
I would like your opinion if it is worth changing my devices; Moto G Falcon and the LG D618, both in perfect condition, for a Moto G4 Play?
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Do you know in which parts the G Falcon and the G4 Play differ?
Is it possible for g2m to die if you try to install a rom of the L90?
Oshmar said:
Is it possible for g2m to die if you try to install a rom of the L90?
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Nope. Only soft brick (a.k.a. bootloop)
Just restore the backup you (hopefully) made before flashing
Or, wipe /system /data and /cache and then flash a ROM for the g2m.
Still, no responsibility taken
They released an unofficial version of the android Oreo for the L90.
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
You most probably will not. Snapdragon phones have better development, for example, the Redmi 4A did not have kernel source till recently, yet we had bugless Nougat ROMs, and now with source we have Oreo. It all depends on developer support, Oppo is not a brand that interests developers, on top of that it is a Mediatek phone, your custom ROM dreams may well be shattered. A few ported ROMs may be made if any developer decides to make it but will most likely be too buggy.
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You most probably will not. Snapdragon phones have better development, for example, the Redmi 4A did not have kernel source till recently, yet we had bugless Nougat ROMs, and now with source we have Oreo. It all depends on developer support, Oppo is not a brand that interests developers, on top of that it is a Mediatek phone, your custom ROM dreams may well be shattered. A few ported ROMs may be made if any developer decides to make it but will most likely be too buggy.
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True.But oppo has never released a phone like this.
This phone has the same chipset(helio p60) of oppo f7 which is two times more costly than the realme 1.Therefore it offers immense value for money.And this will attract a lot of customers.Normally when a device has a huge customer base and if it is a value for money device, developers usually become interested in those devices.
Also I know know that both mediatek and oppo have violated GPL many times by not releasing the sources.But since this device is treble compatible,it should solve that problem to a certain extent right?
I am open to discussion...
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Yes it will help, as project treble is a initiative by Google to help developers create custom roms without approaching Vendor(Oppo) or the Manufacturer(Mediatek).
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Their response shown below,
We understand that you want to give root access to the device and we apologize for the inconvenience caused.
As per the policy, it is not suggestible to root the device. However, if you want to root the device, you can root it using any third party boot-loader on your risk. We won't be able to assist you with any information regarding the rooting of device.
nisanthu said:
Their response shown below,
We understand that you want to give root access to the device and we apologize for the inconvenience caused.
As per the policy, it is not suggestible to root the device. However, if you want to root the device, you can root it using any third party boot-loader on your risk. We won't be able to assist you with any information regarding the rooting of device.
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I don't need root access, but there are issues with Color OS 5.
Like:
1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.
2. If you enable development option, then yellow notification will show constantly to close it, until you close mode. Why can't I use function like mock location, etc.
3. If you use app which use accessibility services (like Greenify) then it will constantly show notifcation bar sign to close, it means you cannot use Developer Mode or Accessibility Services Apps.
Hope Oppo will fixes these issues with Color OS in future updates.
""1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.""
HERE IS SOLUTION FOR YOU> SWIPE UP to CLOSE
Ayyshjaju said:
I don't need root access, but there are issues with Color OS 5.
Like:
1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.
2. If you enable development option, then yellow notification will show constantly to close it, until you close mode. Why can't I use function like mock location, etc.
3. If you use app which use accessibility services (like Greenify) then it will constantly show notifcation bar sign to close, it means you cannot use Developer Mode or Accessibility Services Apps.
Hope Oppo will fixes these issues with Color OS in future updates.
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gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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It confirmed via email. The reply is given below:
"Thank you for writing to RealMe Customer Service regarding Project Treble inquiry.
We are delighted to inform you that your RealMe 1 device supports Project Treble. It is already enabled in your device."
But after some researchs i realised that even if it could support project treble, we still can't flash GSI rom with a locked bootloader. (Correct me if it is a wrong findings)
best customm rom
which is the best custom rom available for realme 1 ?
mygadgetreviewer said:
which is the best custom rom available for realme 1 ?
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rightnow none..
root is not possible yet..
Any chances of custom roms that may pop up for realme 1
I am buying a new phone soon. I would like to know if realme 1 will get a custom rom? Please reply quick. Also when do you think the custom rom will be available?
custom rom
kindly worked custom rom,how can flash twrp?
Firmware
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Is realme 4gb version firmware available? Please provide the link of stock firmware.
Any update on bootloader unlock and rooting..?
Realme 1 support project terbel
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gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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The realme 1 support project terbel I used the to check and it's shows that it support
confirmed the realme 1 and 2pro are getting bootloader unlock
Confirmed by realme CEO madhav Seth realme 1 and 2pro are getting bootloader unlock and kernel source code confirmed on twitter by him
Sailfish os
I want sailfish os for our realme device
Bootloader unlocked finally
Realme 1 has got bootloader unloccked when can we expect to get custom rom now
Imrans123 said:
Realme 1 has got bootloader unloccked when can we expect to get custom rom now
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You need to wait for kernel sources to get released so devs can work on custom roms. If we get a TWRP recovery, you can try out the A/B GSI roms which are good but slightly buggy. If you want a bugfree rom, you need to wait a while, maybe a month or so.
Thanks bro when can we expect releases of kernel source another quarter
Ive been rooting and tinkering with various different android phones for years now . Motorola has always been my favourite when it comes to rooting . Now my question is now what? I would love to finally pitch in on development starting with this device seeing as there is very little on this one as far as custom roms and what not. This device reminds me of the G7 Power with the A/B format. I was looking in on possibly bringing Ubuntu Touch to this device and as far as i can tell I just would need to make a halium kernal for it . Can someone maybe help me or tell me how incan possibly help on makimg that happen? Please bare with me . This is my very first time posting on this website . Im very savy when it comes to the android, ios and computers in general , Im running the stock rom and have done very little besides install some root apps. I would love to help out with any kind of development so please someone let me know . Ill be regularly checking my notifications and messages . Cheers!
I'm not a programmer, but I'd love to have LineageOS on my device. I haven't had the opportunity to play with Ubuntu Touch, but I assume that the F-droid store alone surpasses the app development for the Ubuntu Touch. Have fun!
Im suprised more people arent all over this device like when the G7 came out ....this device is awesome and the battery life alone is enough reason to want to buy it ...Guanma FTW!!
majormolineoux said:
I'm not a programmer, but I'd love to have LineageOS on my device. I haven't had the opportunity to play with Ubuntu Touch, but I assume that the F-droid store alone surpasses the app development for the Ubuntu Touch. Have fun!
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What i found appealing about Ubuntu Touch is i recently read that you can now run android apps on it and i totally agree Lineage would be awesome and an obvious first step to take with this device now that we know it can be rooted...also TWRP development is a must
So far I'm really happy with it. The only thing is with how big it is, people with smaller/weaker hands are going to have a tough time. Good to know about Ubuntu Touch supporting android apps!
I too just got a G Play (2021), after spending the past 8 yrs. with my beloved HTC Ones (m7,m9). Ironically, it was Motorola that I left for HTC. I've been somewhat impressed with this phone's performance in stock bloat (I mean stock TRIM). I came in here today not expecting to see much, if anything, on this phone; but I've found enough info to get me started.
TY XDA, for all your hard work.
xXmazingmeloXx said:
Ive been rooting and tinkering with various different android phones for years now . Motorola has always been my favourite when it comes to rooting . Now my question is now what? I would love to finally pitch in on development starting with this device seeing as there is very little on this one as far as custom roms and what not. This device reminds me of the G7 Power with the A/B format. I was looking in on possibly bringing Ubuntu Touch to this device and as far as i can tell I just would need to make a halium kernal for it . Can someone maybe help me or tell me how incan possibly help on makimg that happen? Please bare with me . This is my very first time posting on this website . Im very savy when it comes to the android, ios and computers in general , Im running the stock rom and have done very little besides install some root apps. I would love to help out with any kind of development so please someone let me know . Ill be regularly checking my notifications and messages . Cheers!
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How did you install magisk did you find a unofficial twrp or something?
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How did you install magisk did you find a unofficial twrp or something?
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I believe the OP use followed this guide.
[Guide] Root Motorola with Magisk (UnLocked Bootloader)(Non-TWRP method)
Root Motorola Devices with Magisk Note: This method has been working with most Moto Devices that the Bootloader can be UnLocked. If the Bootloader cannot be Unlocked this method will not work. Please only use this as a reference. If you require...
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Unofficial twrp ftw!
If you want an installable recovery, use this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...st-port-but-everything-works-amazing.4330775/
dwycoff2013 said:
Unofficial twrp ftw!
If you want an installable recovery, use this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...st-port-but-everything-works-amazing.4330775/
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I have a new Moto G Stylus Metro. Anything for this yet?
I picked up one of these bad boys on a pretty deep discount to use as a dedicated retro gaming device. I’m interesting in tinkering a bit and am wondering if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions on a good rom choice for my use case ? I’ve already gotten my unlock code and I’m pretty much ready to go at this point !
Most people say CorvusOS and EvolutionX are good gaming ROMs, they both seem to be fast. Some people talk about some sort of ROG gaming rom, though ive never heard of it, or tried it.
But, uhm... upon looking at this devices page.. there aren't ANY custom roms available for your device.
Wow really? That's unfortunate.
Is there any point to Unlocking and installing TWRP / Rooting my device then?
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Is there any point to Unlocking and installing TWRP / Rooting my device then?
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I fiundbthat this is a device good for being your experimental toy-around gadget for tweaks and other such root related changes fun to play around with what you can do but from what I know so uncommonly rooted or used by devs that have any influence on the releases of these roms to really give you the full experience of having a rooted device.
bdizzo2l7 said:
Is there any point to Unlocking and installing TWRP / Rooting my device then?
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You can root it for kernel optimisations and debloating, while also giving you more customisation control over your device.
TWRP is available, so rooting should be possible with magisk.
There's also this thread:
Flash RETUS Android 11 now that its available 12/10/2021
Hi again I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR PHONE! (if you do it right I doubt you will but just in case) BACK UP YOUR STUFF JUST IN CASE BEFORE YOU DO THIS AS YOU WILL WIPE YOUR USERDATA! We now have access to RETUS Android 11! Download...
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