Battery case vs External Battery Bank, which do you prefer and why? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Accessories

This S8 is going to be my first sealed battery phone. I'm going to miss those days of being able to carry a spare battery and get back up 100% in 30 seconds. I'm wondering if I should get a battery case or an external battery bank?
Which one do you use and why do you prefer it? Is there anything that you don't like about it?
I've been reading that it's best to charge the sealed battery when it drops to 40% and then stop charging when it reaches 75-80%:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
I think it'd be easier to do this with a battery case that has an on/off button.

just avoid discharging to 0% and when ever you can don't charge to 100%. I heard somewhere that s8 battery has better properties that last generation samsung phones and it wear out waaaay slower.

External Battery Bank.
Coz, I don't want my phone to be as thick as a brick. When the bettery is going to run out, I prefer to use the cable to connect to a power bank.
In addition , the power bank mostly have much more juice than a battery case.

I think a battery case is more convenient. I have both and I like not having to carry the phone in one pocket and the cord and bank in the other. However, having a bank allows you to charge multiples devices and last longer since it isn't made for a specific device. The bank would be more useful and the case more convenient.

Jasper__ said:
External Battery Bank.
Coz, I don't want my phone to be as thick as a brick. When the bettery is going to run out, I prefer to use the cable to connect to a power bank.
In addition , the power bank mostly have much more juice than a battery case.
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hey guys we are in the 2017 era, do you really think that those batteries has some problems in being discharged to 0% and being recharged at 100%?
you will sell this phone before the battery die, this is sure
in any case I prefer the power bank way, just bought some of them.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...nk-attemps-t3664153/post73577779#post73577779

I think a battery case would be better because you can slap it on charge up then take it off after. With a bank you have to plug in the phone and have the cord hanging around while the phone charges. Check out my boy Flossy's video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwaD6mc318M
Shout-out to White Shoes..

I usually carry an external battery pack in my backpack. Though I hardly use it. If I'm going on a weekend camping trip with my friends, I slap on a battery case.
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I'm using Aukey 30000 mah battery, it's heavy and bulky but capacity is amazing, I can charge all my devices from one power bank)

I'm using the "Galaxy S8 Plus Battery Case, Wuloo Charger Case 5500 mAh Extended Backup Battery Juice Pack Rechargeable Charging Case Power Bank Cover for Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus 6.2 inch". It's pretty reliable except that the front screen is completely exposed.
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sblantipodi said:
hey guys we are in the 2017 era, do you really think that those batteries has some problems in being discharged to 0% and being recharged at 100%?
you will sell this phone before the battery die, this is sure
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I'm surprised there were more people with "battery tips" than those willing to reaffirm this statement. As long as you're using reliable chargers and/or charging cases and not regularly in 110+ degree weather, you really don't need to overthink things when it comes to insuring the longevity of the Li-Ion batteries Samsung uses.
As for the base question, I agree with...everybody, and say both.
The S8 is not a small phone to begin with. Without a case it barely fits in the back pocket of most of my jeans at least a bit, and creates a clear rectangular outline in all but my loosest of jeans that just looks...awkward. I don't like big phones for every day use as much as most people seem to, but if I'm dressed semi-nicely and going out for the evening I'm fine with the way it looks and feels in my back pocket.
There is NO battery case that exists where that would still be true, I mean, as others have said, the phone becomes a brick. For regular use outside the house, battery cases just look and feel awkward. I've now owned three, including the insanely overpriced Mophie option sold at Best Buy (it was a gift, don't waste the money) and when doing work around the house they're great for heavy use through a full day, whereas I usually have to plug it in fairly early into the evening when running on the internal battery alone.
For every day use, outside the house, I always carry a messenger bag with a QC 2.0 compatible battery pack. Considering the fact that most battery cases are bulky enough to warrant carrying them in a bag, it just makes more sense to me to carry a 18650 cell based battery pack with a far greater capacity (even on the low end) than any case is going to have, and when in use, or if I want to put my bag down for a while, I can just unplug and use my semi-normal sized phone, or carry it less awkwardly in my pocket for a while.
Especially with QC 2.0 being so...quick, I'd say a battery pack is far preferable for most people in almost every case, but battery cases do have their place here and there. If I need something really compact I personally go with the Anker PowerCore Speed 10000 (36Wh), but I usually end up carrying one RavPower or Anker's larger packs that can use QuickCharge to charge the S8 as well as the battery pack itself. Its not as notable if you're only draining the battery pack every few days and charging it overnight, but for my purposes, often on the road, camping, and hiking, being able to have a 72-80Wh pack charged in less than half the time has been a huge convenience.

I'm using this one.....

Plus 1 for power bank

Battery pack
I'm using a battery pack, usually when I'm out long enough to empty the battery I bring my backpack which has a usb port on it

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Everyone with Battery Life Complaints...

For everyone with Batterylife complaints here are 3 options for you. NEW Updated Post.
Battery Adaptor Pro:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/batteryadapter/index.htm
This is by far the best option in my opinion for battery life problems. This little device about the size of the hermes, a little wider and very sleek / feels good in your hands. Its only $22.50 and worth every penny! What the device does is take AA batteries (4) and recharge your device via the USB cable. You can use the phone while its recharging too! What makes this device even more great is that is uses batteries, not its own rechargable battery, so on a long flights or long road trips or whatever the case may be, all you have to do is stock up on AA's and your good to go! It also comes with a flash light, VERY BRIGHT LED's for dark situations, although random, it comes in handy alot in dark situations trying to find your way to something or trying to hook the USB cable in. It recharges the Hermes about 6 times in my personal expirience with Duracell batteries. But get this! The best thing that makes this device worth every penny is that its compatible with ANYTHING that supports USB charging. This includes all other phones, Ipods, Personal video players, MP3 Players, Cameras you name it! Its great for keeping all your devices with battery power on any trip you go on especially if you travel alot. I no longer have to worry about battery life anymore with this thing. Its very small and easily can go in a pocket or a pouch in your backpack. No longer do you have to suffer with BIG bulky batteries to keep you going through the day/days. I highly recommend this unit and give it a 10/10!
You can Get an Extended battery 3000MAH from:
http://www.lionbattery.com/description.php?noproduit=477
Although very bulky the battery life boost is amazing. My friend has this phone (I don't have one yet, i just sold my 8125) and I have indeed tested it for myself. The battery will last you 10 hours before it hits 80% battery life. With these ten hours I was able to web browse, text message, use agile messanger, playing Doom 3D, Warcraft II, Sim City, Play music at 45% volume. at 60% batterylife I it had been over 25 hours already. With you constantly using 3G, push email and such Id probably say you can get a minimum of 35 hours of battery life with this battery. If you are not so hardcore You probably will get over 50 hours of battery life with this battery. The only cons I have to this battery are the size. its a great investment if you are one of those people always going on bussiness trips and such. You can charge both your stock battery and This battery and use the stock until it runs out then pull out the heavy duty. I highly recommend this battery. This battery comes with a cover for the 8525 too. 9/10
For all those who can't stand the size of this battery there is hope for you.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=333
The stock battery for the 8525 is 1350 mAh, and this one is 1500 mAh, this battery won't improve your battery situations much at all but it is cheaper than the option of buying one from HTC or cingular. You can get both the stock battery and this one and have them both charged to last you however long you need. Although a tight fit it still fits in the battery comparment and works with the 8525. 8/10
I hope this helps some of your frustrations with battery life with this phone.
-SonicCrackers
Pity about the thickness, but the sheer capacity makes one think twice... More than double the normal mah...
I just ordered the 3000mAh battery from lion's website - I'm getting low battery warnings towards the end of the day. I'll let you know how it works out!
lemme know how it is
Well, it's supposed to arrive today - I can't wait! My phone died before I made it home yesterday - very irritating!
Has anyone tried one of those 1500mh batteries? I don;'t want the extended one because my brodit mount will become useless and and just suxs. Anyone have an opinion?
http://www.ipods99.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTCHERMSL&click=35
Yey!
Well, I got my Lion 300mAh battery and I have to say I'm pleased overall! I'm still breaking it in but so far it has lasted a complete day with Wi-Fi on and a hour worth of movie watching. It came very nicely packaged from the company - it also has a 6 month warranty according to the paperwork. The battery is approx. twice as big as the OEM battery. My biggest complaint is the battery door doesn't fit quite as snug as the original... near the camera it has a chamfered edge instead of the rounded edge on the OEM door. Also, there is slightly more clearance to the left and right than the other door. After a week when the battery is broke in, I'll give a proper update on battery life (Lion recommends 5 complete charge/discharge cycles for maximum capacity). I have several pictures of it, but I can't figure out how to post them here ><
Im very glad the battery worked out for you lacroixdp . Yeah the non HTC made battery covers wont fit on the battery as much as it should but enough to get the job done. I'm glad the battery last as long as it does expecially with all that Wifi usage.
4 u slimsaturn the 1500 battery, there is no difference to be seen, its just a cheaper alternative to having 2 batteries to switch between on those long bussiness trips, for improving battery life however, u will not see a difference.
There was some talk of a 2000mAh battery for the hermes that wsa the size of the original one. I think it was supposed to be from lion battery as well. Anyone have any news on this?
Well after a few days following their recommendation on the complete charge/discharge cycle, I can safely say it is an excellent battery! At the end of work, I'm at 80% charge still. With the same usage before, it was always between 30 and 20 giving me low battery warnings. I DEFINITELY recommend the 3000!
I got one off ebay 3400MAH I hope its better or good.
I thought about that one but decided to stick with lionbattery.com and Mugen since they have a solid reputation for batteries. Plus I have a 6 month warranty to use if I ever need to.
To bad lionbattery seems to be out of stock everytime I check
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xSoNiCcRaCkErSx said:
Im very glad the battery worked out for you lacroixdp . Yeah the non HTC made battery covers wont fit on the battery as much as it should but enough to get the job done. I'm glad the battery last as long as it does expecially with all that Wifi usage.
4 u slimsaturn the 1500 battery, there is no difference to be seen, its just a cheaper alternative to having 2 batteries to switch between on those long bussiness trips, for improving battery life however, u will not see a difference.
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I've had the 1500 battery for about a week. I cannot tell any difference between this one and the stock batter but for the fact that I have to use scotch tape to keep the back on. I used the Lion battery on my i730, but hated the size. I am ready to deal with the size due to the fact that I cannot deal with the shortness of battery life.
dwella said:
To bad lionbattery seems to be out of stock everytime I check
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More are coming in next week. They are really, really popular!
Mark
lacroixdp said:
I thought about that one but decided to stick with lionbattery.com and Mugen since they have a solid reputation for batteries. Plus I have a 6 month warranty to use if I ever need to.
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Our batteries come with a one year warranty, not six months.
Mark
I Second the good rating of the 3000mAh Mugen Power Battery.
I bought it for my HTC TyTN from the Netherlands and alhough it bulges to double the size of the standard battery from the back plate - I like it though; gives me better grip on the slippery phone! - it gives me looong life compared to the standard issue (1350 mAh).
As noted earlier, along the sides the extended back plate does not fit 100% snugly, with a (very) minute gap on both sides. But not enough for the back plate to come loose though. Plus the edges (the rubber stopper at back - the antennae socket) is not smoothly cambered. Nothing a nail file couldn't fix though.
Great battery Mugen Power!
Haha that's even better I emailed in about the door and 15 minutes later I got a reply and a tracking number for a new door - excellent service! You've definitely earned a repeat customer! Are you coming out with an extended battery for the Treo 750 soon?
Lion Battery said:
Our batteries come with a one year warranty, not six months.
Mark
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Hi,
I have about 3 months with my TyTN and I can see that battery life has been reduced. Battery duration is decreased and charge time I guess that is reduced too. Is there a known battery calibration problem or this is a normal behaviour for a 3 months old battery???
Regards,
Taguapire.
Because I am on holiday I had a chance to do a controlled test of the battery. I charged the standard battery, turned on the phone and made one call a day to just make sure its still working. I also forced the band into gsm only. My battery lasted 7 days from full to flat. I then did the same thing being only in umts and I got 3 days only. The test is controlled because I did not physically move the device at all in that time, so signal strength and tower searching would be kept constant.
I think that is pretty clear the 3g is the killer. The dopod 838 pro lasted longer than my magician would have under the same sircumstances.

Is there an extended battery for the mini pro?

Despite all the tricks to help preserve battery, I still find the performance of y standard 930 mAh battery very bad. Is there an extended (reliabl) battery for rhis phone and where can I get it?
Just gonna drop my experience in. It seems the battery lasts for about a day and a half. Which can be seen as over three days (depends what time you charge it on the first day) instead of using the normal homescreen, download helix launcher from the market, it helps alot
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One day and a half compared to my brothers Samsung's week is really a disgrace.
I already have another home screen, just got to like it, so not changing it at the moment.
I have contacted Seidio as they make extended batterys for other phones. Would not hurt if oter people did that too, so please, those who care about this problem, contact them and ask them.
I bought on e-bay a 1450mAh battery made by Jin Dian. A drastic improvement.
Didi anybody else try this? I got it but I'm not convinced it's better.
Seeing you all really hungry for power, it's just feel right to warn you guys. Never ever use cheap small portable charger that you spot either on a shop or ebay no matter how desperate you are. If you use it, best scenario, it only ruin your battery, or in the worse (like me) it ruin the phone. Both case has the same end result, the battery discharging way to quickly even when Idle.
How did it ruin your phone?
I would like to know. thanks
As I'm a long distance cyclist, I already own the Biologic ReeCharge. Anything that can be charged by usb can also be charged by that tool. I can use both my bicycle dynomo hub and the electricity network at home to charge the ReeCharge. Witch then is able to charge my phone. It's a kind of extra battery. Never have had any problems with that and I'm always glad on a cycle trip that I can keep my gadgets (most important gps) charged
http://www.dahon.com/accessories/2010/biologic-reecharge
Well, I don't know the technical details but it fried my batteries (that's right, more than one) before I realized it was the portable charger that caused and even after stop using it, it's still recurring (therefore, the phone is at fault) After asking my friend who used the same type charger once. They all said that it ruined their phones and told me if I want to have a portable charger, go for the lithium one that sony Ericsson's is selling.
hi,
i'm using varta charger type 57048:
http://www.amazon.de/Varta-Professi...=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1291062768&sr=8-3
and i don't want to miss it on longer journeys. the usb-out function i would say is nearly as fast as the normal charger. one akku pack is enough for about 2 charges. if you are on a journey and not able to charge the akkus you can buy normal batteries. they give about 1 charge.
i have experiences with other chargers and phones and i would say this thing works really good because the usb-port of the charger turns off when batteries haven't enough voltage. this prevents your x10 battery from damage because wrong charging.
xperiaforme said:
Despite all the tricks to help preserve battery, I still find the performance of y standard 930 mAh battery very bad. Is there an extended (reliabl) battery for rhis phone and where can I get it?
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My x10a mini pro came with 970 mAh battery, not 930. Battery life is about a day and 1/2. I use USB car charger in the car on needed basis only. Hopefully USB car charger doesn't fry the battery.

2 HTC batteries wired in parallel = 3400?

I wanted to know you're thoughts on getting a second htc battery and wiring them in Parallel. (soldering them together) Should be same voltage just different capacity. Do you think it would work? Would it break anything? Only thing i was worried about is the overcharge protection in the individual batteries.
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In parallel, voltage will stay the same amps will be added. In series, voyage will double, amps will stay the same. When you do this, voltage multiplied by power will give the power output. It should be okay to charge as one will stop charging. What I am thinking but could be wrong is that since the batteries have overcharge protection..in parallel, when one charges to full, the other one still will charge since there is not a broken connection say if it was in series. But only testing will see if they work.
Im thinking / hoping it will charge both at the same rate, just 1/2 the speed, it would take twice as long though. It should be same charge time as say Seido Innocell 3400 mAh Super Extended Life Battery. I could get a second battery for $20. Where the 3400 and 4000 seido cost 70 and 75.
Basically trying to get the 3400 for $20 and 2 min solder time. Just wanted to know if it would ruin the built in protection.
Let us know if that works, if it does I am gonna give it a shot.
let us know please. and how are you going to hold these in your phone?
kiserian said:
Im thinking / hoping it will charge both at the same rate, just 1/2 the speed, it would take twice as long though. It should be same charge time as say Seido Innocell 3400 mAh Super Extended Life Battery. I could get a second battery for $20. Where the 3400 and 4000 seido cost 70 and 75.
Basically trying to get the 3400 for $20 and 2 min solder time. Just wanted to know if it would ruin the built in protection.
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The only damage might be from the heat of the solder gun. Those babbies, from what I seen are cmos chips very close to the connections of the terminal.
why would you even do this?
This just sounds like a very bad idea... Please video tape it for us!
This is a bad idea. I mean it's just better if you shelve more money and get a bigger battery. Props to you if you find a convenient way of charging these batteries in parallel.
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My opinion:
You are taking a risk of ruining 2 batteries to save a couple bucks? Worst case scenario: You buy the extra battery ($20.00), you ruin both batteries, you have to replace your original battery now (another $20.00) so now you have already spent $40.00 and you are back at square one. Even if you figure out how to get it to work, you have to figure out how to mount the extra battery. For $65.00, you can get the Seidio 4k battery and backplate and not go through all the hassle.
But, it is my opinion, and if you do try this, I must see it on you tube
how do you plan to fit these in the phone? an extended battery door is probably too small to fit two stock batteries, and how do you plan to make it fit with such a tight top to bottom clearance given that you now have extra length from soldering?
just buy an extra battery and battery charger, keep the spare in your pocket. no added bulk, no potentially messing up both batteries, no blowing anything up!
kiserian said:
Im thinking / hoping it will charge both at the same rate, just 1/2 the speed, it would take twice as long though. It should be same charge time as say Seido Innocell 3400 mAh Super Extended Life Battery. I could get a second battery for $20. Where the 3400 and 4000 seido cost 70 and 75.
Basically trying to get the 3400 for $20 and 2 min solder time. Just wanted to know if it would ruin the built in protection.
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, NO NO NO NO
Lithium batteries have to be carefully charged if they are to low voltage or to high voltage they can explode into fire balls of pain and fury. DO NOT try to charge 2 cells with out a charger designed to charge multi cell batteries (http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10473 is one available for fairly cheap) You will need to figure out pinning to get the 3 wires out (other then +/-) to properly charge the batteries.
Once again, DO NOT try to charge them in a normal charger you rig your self, it is incredibly dangerous and you ARE going to burn down your house.
just order the 3500mah battery from fleabay...it's under $10 shipped and comes with the back door. Actually read somewhere that they just pretty much stack and wire two stock batteries together. I just ordered mine today...for the heck of it.
midri said:
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, NO NO NO NO
Lithium batteries have to be carefully charged if they are to low voltage or to high voltage they can explode into fire balls of pain and fury. DO NOT try to charge 2 cells with out a charger designed to charge multi cell batteries (http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10473 is one available for fairly cheap) You will need to figure out pinning to get the 3 wires out (other then +/-) to properly charge the batteries.
Once again, DO NOT try to charge them in a normal charger you rig your self, it is incredibly dangerous and you ARE going to burn down your house.
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Not to start a flame but it is my understanding lithium batteries cannot be charged while Li- ion batteries can plus hold a charge per density greater then just lithium. Also with the overcharged protection in the baterries, any charge that was going to one battery will hence go to another.once both cell in each battery are full the phone or,smart wall charger will stop charging.. I don't agree with the op idea to try..it will result in a waste of batteries.
midri said:
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, NO NO NO NO
Lithium batteries have to be carefully charged if they are to low voltage or to high voltage they can explode into fire balls of pain and fury. DO NOT try to charge 2 cells with out a charger designed to charge multi cell batteries (http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10473 is one available for fairly cheap) You will need to figure out pinning to get the 3 wires out (other then +/-) to properly charge the batteries.
Once again, DO NOT try to charge them in a normal charger you rig your self, it is incredibly dangerous and you ARE going to burn down your house.
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This ^^
Odds are you'll burn your house down. There is a lot more that is needed to safely charge Li-ion batteries than just plugging it in and running power through it.
Do this and use a SBC kernel and let me know what happens! :
I actually have 2 evo 3d batteries soldered together in my phone now and repacked. I've been using for 2 weeks now. I get the best battery life i have ever gotten. I'm a very heavy user. It can last me way over 20 hours with heavy use.
Before this battery I had 2 samsung galaxy s batteries soldered together. They were 1650 mah each. I have been doing this with all my phones for quite some time. You will get better battery life than most of the extended batteries that you can buy out there.
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bl8zeone360 said:
I actually have 2 evo 3d batteries soldered together in my phone now and repacked. I've been using for 2 weeks now. I get the best battery life i have ever gotten. I'm a very heavy user. It can last me way over 20 hours with heavy use.
Before this battery I had 2 samsung galaxy s batteries soldered together. They were 1650 mah each. I have been doing this with all my phones for quite some time. You will get better battery life than most of the extended batteries that you can buy out there.
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How do you fit them in?
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Just buy the cheap extended battery from ebay and use the door from it. Get the one that doesn't have the hump.
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This looks like a "Hold my beer and watch this!" redneck moment!

Battery Cases

Has anyone used any battery case yet? I've seen some on Amazon, but only a few and none from recognized companies. Not sure if the reviews are trustworthy either.
I like using ultra slim cases and so obviously battery cases are not my preference for daily drivers. But would be awesome for those crazy long days, specially on hikes where no charging options.
I have this one from Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBHLY4S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_GM.Iyb8JDK15M
It's...terrible. To reach the fingerprint sensor requires acrobatics or a sideways reach that is wholly uncomfortable. It charges either slowly or rapidly (100 mah to about 1450) at the cases own prerogative. It throws the flash off when taking a picture as well.
I've found that at seemingly random intervals I would have had to taken the phone out to charge it (the case would be at 100% charged and would be trickle charging the phone at such a low level that sometimes it loses a charge instead of gaining one.
Also, it's a fingerprint magnet.
There only seems to be two on Amazon and minus the names they are the exact same case.
For sixty bucks? Don't buy it. Or be prepared to return it. As I'm going to.
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Thanks for that review, alclap was the one that seemed the better of the choices available. What a shame. I guess external battery pack is our only option?
I got this case when they posted a coupon code here a few weeks ago. it sucks! doesn't seem capable of charging the normal pixel 1 full time. and gets really warm when using it. you're better off getting Aukeys 5k pocket battery and a short cable to recharge in your pocket between uses when needed. at least Aukeys mini pack can rapid charge and you'll get more juice in less time when u are charging.

SAMSUNG: Don't let your phone drop below 50% and don't charge it more than 80-90%

http://techlife.samsung.com/tips-keep-smartphone-charged-1059.html
Charge Regularly
To get the most out of your smartphone's battery, you'll need to charge it properly. Most smartphones have a lithium-ion battery that lives longer when charged regularly. Unlike the nickel batteries used in older phones, lithium-ion batteries do best when kept above a 50 percent charge. Repeatedly allowing the battery to drain fully may shorten its life and decrease its overall capacity. If this happens, you'll need to charge the battery more frequently and it may last only a few hours before needing a charge, for example.
Your battery will also perform better if you don't let it charge to 100 percent, so take it off the charger at about 80 to 90 percent capacity. Leaving the phone connected to the charger when the phone is completely charged may lower battery life if you do it repeatedly.
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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Wow I did not know any of this. I will be following this thanks for sharing.
how long is the battery lasting if you are only going down to 50 and up to 90?
Gees! Below 50% really. I would tend to agree somewhat. I never let my phone fall below 20% and usually charge until 97% more or less. But 90-50. I don't want to be walking around with a battery back. I need my phone to last all day and 40% of the battery just won't cut it.
Xuck that !! I have a 3000mah battery for a reason if it goes then it goes ill most likely have another phone by then.Not gonna sit here to nickel and dime my usage that's not why I got this phone .
GM makes the Li batteries last in the volt and bolt 10 years by not letting the car drain the batteries more than 2/3rds down, leaving the batteries at 1/3rd charge. Tesla does it too.
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Nah, I don't own my phones for more than a year so this doesn't apply to me. I'd rather keep using it from 100-1 just like I've been doing for years. I wouldn't be able to stand only getting an hour of use and charging it 3 times a day.
This battery information applies to all devices that use this type of battery be they Samsung or other brands. Its not just the Note 8. It applies equally to your Oral-B tooth brush! :laugh:
Ryland
this is a good habit to charge often at 50%. i usually let the battery run down to like 20% or less then charge. then when i have to go somewhere and i cant play with my phone anymore cus i worry i going to run down the battery.
Question are the "300-2500" charge cycles just as it says? I mean if I put it on the charger in the car for a 10 minute drive is that a cycle along with an overnight charge? If it is we should really only be putting it on the charger from the 50-90% with a guaranteed fast charge time of at least 30+mins to get the maximum charge cycles for the lifespan?
markwebb said:
This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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This was a really well written down to earth article about battery care. Thank you. I still have friends, family, and coworkers that insist on running their batteries to 0%. I can't convince them otherwise. Although my batteries degrade, it's never been anything easy shattering. Just notice an hour or two shaved of over a couple years life. As the article states, there is no way around this and I won't be a slave to my battery. In that note, I top off when I can.
My battery on my old phone tended to get to around the 40% at the end fo the work day, then I'd plug it in usually around the 20-30% and it still lasted 2+ years 'til I got a new battery. Now it's about 50% at the end of the day. But with Fast Charge, what do they expect people to do, plug it in for an hour, then unplug it, then go to sleep, wake up with 60% battery, go to work and then charge it for an hour when you get there?
The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
slaapliedje said:
The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
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Too black and white.
It is possible to offer some water resistance to a mobile that has a removable battery, S5 for eg.
In general such water resistance is small and is often abused by the owner causing problems. Hardly any owner reads the instruction manual that outlines what ones device can and cannot do, what the IP rating means in REAL terms etc
"Forced obsolescence" mmmmm, a battery can be changed in the Note 8. I understand your point though.
Ryland
this has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too small a batteries in its top of the range device!
bonerp said:
this guff has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too smaller batteries in its top of the range device!
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Totaly agree......
We then have to ask 'ourselves' WHY! Who forced Mobile brands to make anorexic devices? WE DID. We wanted thin small large wide slim ...........we got it and now pay the price.
I personally don't care if the device is thicker with a larger battery, for me its not a problem. For so many size was a major issue so the manufacture's listened and came up with these ultra thin mobiles that are vulnerable to dropping and breaking etc. off topic.
I find it totally bizarre that we spend mega bucks on such devices only to find we are educated to use them on software that reduces said mobile to the performance of a phone costing 100€! I may add many posters where disappointed when the Note 8 didn't have a 4k screen! Can you imagine the battery issues then?
Now we read this Samsung article and find we would need to charge our mobile several times a day as well as run it on a vastly reduced software programme. In reality that article is saying the battery is only operating efficiently at 40% of its total capacity before we start to degrade its life! Its all so absurd. What are we doing here folks?
Only one answer to this, either drop the performance OR vastly improve battery technology and fast.
Ryland
I'm not sure how usefull this is for the new samsung phones though, as the release of the S8 Samsung improved the battery.
Samsung Mobile R&D VP Bookeun Oh told me, "I focused on maintaining the durability of the battery over the long term, over hundreds of charging cycles. For example, after approximately six months of normal usage, the battery in the S8 will outperform previous batteries. While most batteries hold about 80 percent of their charge after two years in usual cases, this battery should be capable of 95 percent of its original capacity."
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PC mag S8 review
I am sorry but i will use my phone all day and charge overnight. If you can't use past 50% what is the point???? My pixel xl i have had since day 1 and use all day everyday and charge overnight and noticed no real decrease in battery life except a little change with oreo!
Outdated info and not necessary.
0% on your device is still considerably above what is considered the bottom line cell voltage before excessive discharge detrimental affects capacity.
A lot of engineering has gone into these devices to squeeze every possible mAh out of the packs, have a decent life expectancy AND operate safely. There is no need to strive for certain numbers and forcibly change your usage habits. There may or may not be a demonstrably better result long term but honestly is it worth worrying about?
And for removable packs...
Forget it. That's a thing of the past.
If devices had battery life like the Skyrocket, sure I see the NEED for a swappable pack.
But not now.
Having a sealed device makes it feel solid and keeps intrusion protection intact.
Holding an older device in hand, it seems almost laughable today. It creaks and groans and feels super cheap in comparison like some dollar store toy!

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