Can you guys say what is the maximum benchmark score for mido 4/64gb variant in latest software update I Mean miui 9 I got a score of 59k is it good?
meheboobalam1 said:
Can you guys say what is the maximum benchmark score for mido 4/64gb variant in latest software update I Mean miui 9 I got a score of 59k is it good?
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Hm? Are you still that concern with benchmarks these days?
anyways, i got 64K+ on ViperOs, a good score but in Quadrant i got uninspiring results. (SD, 3GB version)
59K is good enough as long its perform well as day to day driver without any hiccup.
GabrielScott said:
Hm? Are you still that concern with benchmarks these days?
anyways, i got 64K+ on ViperOs, a good score but in Quadrant i got uninspiring results. (SD, 3GB version)
59K is good enough as long its perform well as day to day driver without any hiccup.
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Using official stock ROM. Not a fan of custom ROM not anymore ultimately we will come back to stock ROM so why. Not modified stock ROM like Xiaomi.eu
65k on AEX without any modifications, 4/64gb variant.
64-65k on redmi note 4x (sd) 3/32, rom RR
Mine is 0 coz I dun care... Lol
aabenroi said:
Mine is 0 coz I dun care... Lol
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Well, if I was going to use benchmarking apps, I would rather use Geekbench4 or PC Mark2.0.
DarthJabba9 said:
Well, if I was going to use benchmarking apps, I would rather use Geekbench4 or PC Mark2.0.
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Whatever bench, I don't trust bench anymore...
The mtk for example score very high bench but real performance is so bad.
Those huawei kirin score very low bench score, but it plays games, especially psp and dolphin emulation way-way better than snapdragon and mtk that have better bench score.
aabenroi said:
Whatever bench, I don't trust bench anymore...
The mtk for example score very high bench but real performance is so bad.
Those huawei kirin score very low bench score, but it plays games, especially psp and dolphin emulation way-way better than snapdragon and mtk that have better bench score.
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MTk is scoring high because it's faster but for short amounts of time because they overheat, after 10-15minutes of heavy usage like gaming it's reducing CPU/GPU frequency to reduce heat (thermal throttling), and then the performance is much worse.
Thats why benchmarks are useless, they are too short to show the real performance. For example Snapdragon 625 can keep the same performance for hours during heavy gaming without thermal throttling, because it's super power & thermal efficient.
aabenroi said:
Whatever bench, I don't trust bench anymore...
The mtk for example score very high bench but real performance is so bad.
Those huawei kirin score very low bench score, but it plays games, especially psp and dolphin emulation way-way better than snapdragon and mtk that have better bench score.
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The secret is to look at single-core performance. Multi-core benchmarks are always very high on MTK because their chips usually have more cores than others. However, how many apps actually use all those cores? All that the extra cores do is to suck your battery.
k3lcior said:
MTk is scoring high because it's faster but for short amounts of time because they overheat, after 10-15minutes of heavy usage like gaming it's reducing CPU/GPU frequency to reduce heat (thermal throttling), and then the performance is much worse.
Thats why benchmarks are useless, they are too short to show the real performance. For example Snapdragon 625 can keep the same performance for hours during heavy gaming without thermal throttling, because it's super power & thermal efficient.
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Yeah I agree,
Beside that, benchmark just measure raw power, big raw power is useless without good optimization.
Snapdragon n Kirin have lower raw power but easily beat mtk because they're way more optimized.
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The secret is to look at single-core performance. Multi-core benchmarks are always very high on MTK because their chips usually have more cores than others. However, how many apps actually use all those cores? All that the extra cores do is to suck your battery.
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Nowdays, mtk score very high at single core as well... But it still sucks...
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hello guys... im plaining to get a new phone.. with Snapdragon 800 but i was reading thers 2 diferent Chips... the Low bin (Qualcomm MSM8974)
and the High bin (Qualcomm MSM8974AB) ... and i want something realy good that dosent f**k in some months... im a gamer so i love performance and good visuals.. and i know 2.2GHz are good but i was reading the NOTE 3 has the same Chip(Qualcomm MSM8974 the low bin) and its at 2.3Ghz... u guys think this can be solve by a kernel in the future? to get more GHz and MHz on GPU.. ? give me an opinion please
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hello guys... im plaining to get a new phone.. with Snapdragon 800 but i was reading thers 2 diferent Chips... the Low bin (Qualcomm MSM8974)
and the High bin (Qualcomm MSM8974AB) ... and i want something realy good that dosent f**k in some months... im a gamer so i love performance and good visuals.. and i know 2.2GHz are good but i was reading the NOTE 3 has the same Chip(Qualcomm MSM8974 the low bin) and its at 2.3Ghz... u guys think this can be solve by a kernel in the future? to get more GHz and MHz on GPU.. ? give me an opinion please
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There is no difference in GPU with either device running snapdragon 800 SOC's. The chips are exactly the same in actual fact, its just the higher capacity of tolerance for the higher clocked speed. So if a chip could take a higher clock speed during a stress test, then they were clocked at 2.3ghz...
But even though on the XZU we have 2.2Ghz (2.150Ghz to be exact) we are more than likely to be able to overclock it to 2.3ghz... similarly that the 2.3Ghz SOC could be overclocked to 2.4Ghz...
- Obviously this depends on developers we get for the XZU.. and if they want to put the many man hours into kernel development
As far as future proof is concerned... The 800 will be good for 18 months...
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There is no difference in GPU with either device running snapdragon 800 SOC's. The chips are exactly the same in actual fact, its just the higher capacity of tolerance for the higher clocked speed. So if a chip could take a higher clock speed during a stress test, then they were clocked at 2.3ghz...
But even though on the XZU we have 2.2Ghz (2.150Ghz to be exact) we are more than likely to be able to overclock it to 2.3ghz... similarly that the 2.3Ghz SOC could be overclocked to 2.4Ghz...
- Obviously this depends on developers we get for the XZU.. and if they want to put the many man hours into kernel development
As far as future proof is concerned... The 800 will be good for 18 months...
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More than that it can only be that Sony actually set this limit for battery drain and thermal as well. While playing it become really hot. And if play and charge during the same time it become he'll. It remind me of the CPU that have on the HTC sensation and sensation XE, same CPU that was actually underclocked on the sensation.
As hamdogg just said, the CPU clock speed is not related to game, it's the GPU. All 800 SOC have the adreno 330
Envoyé depuis mon C6802 avec xda premium 4
thanks guys... because i want something good for the next months
Its dependant on so many variables and the Z Ultra has 50mg more allocated to video ram than other snapdragon devices. See comparison below
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-benc...ow-it-stacks-against-the-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
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Its dependant on so many variables and the Z Ultra has 50mg more allocated to video ram than other snapdragon devices. See comparison below
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-benc...ow-it-stacks-against-the-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
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So that's why the Ultra is so heavy!
LordManhattan said:
So that's why the Ultra is so heavy!
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Ha Ha yeah... mg or MB whats the difference
Wow did a antutu test on both of my phones and was expecting my L 9 to beat my escape. Boy was I suprised! My l 9 got a 10,568 ( pretty good compared to some). Then I ran the escape. My jaw dropped when I saw the amazing score of 15139. WHOA, it beat it in every catagory except RAM operation. My l 9 is running kumas rom with pure performance tweaks with cpu overclocked at 1.2 ghz. The escape is running sphinx rom with no cpu tweaks. Strange thing is every stats info I see on the escape says it has 1.2 ghz dc snapdragon. However im getting 1.5 ghz??? hmm Whats everyone else scores looking like for their L 9 ?
I get around 11k running mateo's CM 10.2 ROM.
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I have 9,616 running CyanogenMod 10.2 official (19/11/2013) :crying:
DarwinDeLaRosa said:
I have 9,616 running CyanogenMod 10.2 official (19/11/2013) :crying:
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That's because custom rom overclock both CPU & GPU so it has higher score.
My L9 on CM 10.2 by mateo with stock cpu and gpu speeds i have 9843 pts
With CPU at 1,2 GHz i have 10671
With stock CPU and GPU at 384 MHz i have 9732 pts
With CPU at 1,2 GHz and GPU at 384 MHz i have 10706
With CPU at 1,35 GHz and GPU at 384 MHz i have 11502
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My l 9 is running kumas rom with pure performance tweaks with cpu overclocked at 1.2 ghz. The escape is running sphinx rom with no cpu tweaks. Strange thing is every stats info I see on the escape says it has 1.2 ghz dc snapdragon. However im getting 1.5 ghz??? hmm Whats everyone else scores looking like for their L 9 ?
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Your LG Escape has got a better cpu and gpu and it would have shown better performance anyway. My L9 running stock showed maximum of 9600 with pure performance tweaks. But I don't think Antutu points can give you a good idea of how fast and smooth your phone is
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Your LG Escape has got a better cpu and gpu and it would have shown better performance anyway. My L9 running stock showed maximum of 9600 with pure performance tweaks. But I don't think Antutu points can give you a good idea of how fast and smooth your phone is
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Thats what I was getting at. Despite having a better cpu and gpu on the escape using both phones side by side in real world use the L9 performs better ALL around. The gpu was a big part of the escapes high score. However in side by side comparisons the L9S graphics seems to look better and out perform the escape. So I honestly believe all benchmark scores reflects what the phones software/hardware is CAPABLE of performing not really HOW it performs with daily use. This would explain why a score can as much as double by simply running a custom rom. I would never solely base my opinion of a phones performance on a benchmark score. Sure it can give you a idea of what its software/hardware is capable of. However you cant honestly get a true feel for the performance until you try the phone. So my escape murders my L9 in benchmark scores. BUT my L9 murders my escape in real life usable performance. Anyone else agree with this?
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BUT my L9 murders my escape in real life usable performance. Anyone else agree with this?
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Yeah, I got your point! I guess, the only good thing about the Escape's cpu and gpu is that it's more battery-friendly, isn't it?
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Yeah, I got your point! I guess, the only good thing about the Escape's cpu and gpu is that it's more battery-friendly, isn't it?
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Yep, and both phones use the exact same battery. The escapes standby battery life is much longer than the L9 . During normal use the escape lasts longer as well by not to the degree of the standby difference.
Is it possible to get our 820 soc overclocked with a custom kernel so it can compare to 821 chip?
No stable custom kernel available so far
And you can compare soc on web
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No stable custom kernel available so far
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Link?
georgesalo said:
Link?
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http://wccftech.com/snapdragon-821-vs-snapdragon-820/
http://www.techgrapple.com/apple-a10-sd-821-820/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/snapdragon-820-vs-snapdragon-810
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No stable custom kernel available so far
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I think he didn't want to compare but to overclock to make it faster.
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Difference between 820 and 821 is pretty negligible. I very much doubt that you could find any meaningful difference between the two in real-life performance, given that few if any apps currently push these CPUs anywhere near their full capability. All you'd probably achieve by slightly overclocking is very marginal gains in synthetic benchmark scores at the cost of battery life and possibly stability. In fact, thermal throttling would probably make performance worse. IMHO it would be a pointless exercise.
Not seeing much advantage on SD821.
Is there anything to gain on SD821 the higher clocking in CPU and GPU doesnt seem to translate into actually advantage and seems more like an gimmick to sell SD820 in new clothing, but fair enough it is an solid chipset..
Have my X822 (the dark grey version) for an couple of weeks now and been filling it up, but it still delivers insanse scores from an 222US handset-
from today in Basemark X' a +43k score. (at household temperaure ' - overall not to shabby from an little over 200US-handset)
anyone got an up to date ranking on Basemark X. (nb in high sett. L2M getting an little under 37k)
but ewen the Pixel XL that should be an SD821 is clocked in SD820s values, and comming in at ofc. 35.598k (hence X822 : 43.001)
http://powerboard.basemark.com/filter?benchmark=10&page=1&categories=0&os=0,2
Hi Guys , i need tips in fixing performance issue im lg v30 the cpu performance is throttling quite heavily in stock oreo that emulator performance is dropping and can not run games full speed while s8 with same snapdragom processor run the emulator full speed. Any tips ro improve this? I already get the tutorial to update gpu driver here to v313 The stock gpu driver in oreo is horribel using very old gpu driver
From the look of it the stock kernel max speed is 1900mhz and even that it move fasly up and down throttling heavily,any alternative to stock kernel or info about the stock kernel gorvenor?
I have t-mobile variant and it does run constantly at 1.9ghz on little cores, but BIG cores run varying from 2.1 to 2.4ghz. The only emulator i'm using right now are Retroarch64 and ppsspp it's all running well at 30fps. Some refurbished V30 doesn't have heat pipe inside for better cooling, it may throttle cpu during certain workloads AND actually not all SD835 work similar, some device might better or worse depends on thermal regulation, or android optimization.
lg got the worst score 164k antutu for me compared to normal 200k snapdragon 835 , this phone got high end cpu with midrange performance what a waste
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I have t-mobile variant and it does run constantly at 1.9ghz on little cores, but BIG cores run varying from 2.1 to 2.4ghz. The only emulator i'm using right now are Retroarch64 and ppsspp it's all running well at 30fps. Some refurbished V30 doesn't have heat pipe inside for better cooling, it may throttle cpu during certain workloads AND actually not all SD835 work similar, some device might better or worse depends on thermal regulation, or android optimization.
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How to know? I got the us998 version but dont know if its ref or not? The problem is on dolphin emulator, the ppsspp does run full speed
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How to know? I got the us998 version but dont know if its ref or not? The problem is on dolphin emulator, the ppsspp does run full speed
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how to know what? you can see cpu stats on EX Kernel Manager, maybe kernelauditor as well. It's true that little cluster could only go as far as 1900 not more, but big cluster can go up to 2,45ghz as listed on 835's specs. I don't know, maybe bloated software could have some impact too. have you tried using custom rom? some say it'll improve much in gaming performance. it's worth a shot (few shots i guess, since there are many of them :laugh.
Wantrd to ubl but i need to backup things, will inform later on the thread. Thingkjng to sell the devices for poco or note 8 but i love the features on this devices so much !
hi all,
is there a way to undervolt and or OC the CPU and GPU?
I remember reading a article a month ago about a GPU OC, but somehow that's it. No way to download the mentioned app etc.
Is there anything for the Mi 10 / SD 865?
Snapdragons don't overclock because they're not underclocked.
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Snapdragons don't overclock because they're not underclocked.
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According to this news oage, we still have some potential left in our SD865
Xiaomi Mi 10 Overclocking Has Improved Significantly
he game performance has also been improved in addition to the higher running scores of the overclocked Snapdragon 865 models.
www.igeekphone.com
here is even a XDA link to another phone without any links to the app itself...
Abandoned
abandoned.
forum.xda-developers.com
so there is a way to OC and UV the SD865
That isn't what it appears to be to me. It appears to be an ongoing project to oc/uv the snapdragon processor and gpu and so far all they've done is managed to change the ram clockspeed. The pros of undervolting the ram is less heat but the cons is bottlenecking under load because ram uses voltage in correlation to clockspeed. If you overvolt the ram it produces more heat, processes more data but stability goes out of the window completely. This is NOT CPU/GPU core clocking and won't have any effect on the cores whatsoever, only data throughput.
I'll stand by my word coming from HTC to Xiaomi, both snapdragon phones, you can't overclock a snapdragon because they're not underclocked. It has been that way for a long time. What they advertise the chip as capable of is what the chip is capable of as by design and will actually be that way in the field.
If you want proof just take a browse around the later HTC phones and you won't see anything about core clocking, probably not ram volting either..
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That isn't what it appears to be to me. It appears to be an ongoing project to oc/uv the snapdragon processor and gpu and so far all they've done is managed to change the ram clockspeed. The pros of undervolting the ram is less heat but the cons is bottlenecking under load because ram uses voltage in correlation to clockspeed. If you overvolt the ram it produces more heat, processes more data but stability goes out of the window completely. This is NOT CPU/GPU core clocking and won't have any effect on the cores whatsoever, only data throughput.
I'll stand by my word coming from HTC to Xiaomi, both snapdragon phones, you can't overclock a snapdragon because they're not underclocked. It has been that way for a long time. What they advertise the chip as capable of is what the chip is capable of as by design and will actually be that way in the field.
If you want proof just take a browse around the later HTC phones and you won't see anything about core clocking, probably not ram volting either..
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No offense, but have you read any of the two links I posted?
They literally explain, that they changed/overclocked the GPU frequency to 865mhz
stock frequency should be 587mhz.
They did overclock the GPU.
They even proved it by showing some benchmarks.. and compared it to the SD888
And this is the first time I read, that SDs are not overclockable...
865mhz is the bus and ram frequency. The cores are in the ghz.
All that has been achieved is a higher throughput and that equates to more heat and more used power. This stuff is well researched.
I honestly dont get, where you getting the RAM OC thing.
They do not use ddr7 or ddr8 on a mobile SoC, because the tech isnt there yet...
If you search for the Andreno 650 GPU you will see its specs that it is clocked at 587mhz (and not the Ram).
They are of course adjusting the ram timings too, but the xda links tells the following:
"2. edit your settings in the 3 tables. (start with adding the extra step form 865+ to 865)
3. press "Save GPU Freq Table" after editing any page, before you move to another."
If you want to stay with your resolution on this topic, it is fine.
I just want to know where we can get the KonaBess app, because google only links me to chinese pages and somehow this topic isnt as popular as I thought.
Not 100% sure if this link is allowed.... https://github.com/xzr467706992/KonaBess/releases/tag/v0.12
Scroll down to assets and its in there.
shivadow said:
Not 100% sure if this link is allowed.... https://github.com/xzr467706992/KonaBess/releases/tag/v0.12
Scroll down to assets and its in there.
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Thanks alot
I dont know why I couldnt find it with google
btw: I hope I really didnt offend you with any of the sentences.
RaZoR No1 said:
Thanks alot
I dont know why I couldnt find it with google
btw: I hope I really didnt offend you with any of the sentences.
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Just a heads up, not all snapdragons are created equally. That said, there is definitely performance left to gain via OC the adreno 650 gpu of the 865. I'm currently running a massive 930mhz on my adreno 650 and a very small cpu OC and with that, it blows the 865+ away in benchmarking and trades wins with a stock SD 888 with CPU and GPU bench scores. Any OC'ing you do I highly recommend doing a stress test before thinking you're stable.
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Just a heads up, not all snapdragons are created equally. That said, there is definitely performance left to gain via OC the adreno 650 gpu of the 865. I'm currently running a massive 930mhz on my adreno 650 and a very small cpu OC and with that, it blows the 865+ away in benchmarking and trades wins with a stock SD 888 with CPU and GPU bench scores. Any OC'ing you do I highly recommend doing a stress test before thinking you're stable.
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Thanks for the heads up, I am already aware of the "silicon lottery".
I am amazed how much juice is still left in the SD865, that OCd it can even beat the 888 and is more consistent.
Do you use any App to monitor your temps and how did you OC your CPU? Afaik KonaBess only allows GPU oc?
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Just a heads up, not all snapdragons are created equally. That said, there is definitely performance left to gain via OC the adreno 650 gpu of the 865. I'm currently running a massive 930mhz on my adreno 650 and a very small cpu OC and with that, it blows the 865+ away in benchmarking and trades wins with a stock SD 888 with CPU and GPU bench scores. Any OC'ing you do I highly recommend doing a stress test before thinking you're stable.
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Hi, I can't seem to find any tutorial online on how to overclock. Could you help me out ? I am gonna order a Black Shark 4 with the Snpadragon 870 soon, which is the best cherrypicked chip along the same chipset as the 865, which means that it's more likely to be a silicon lottery win... Can we get in touch on Discord ? My username is Meli #6318.
please guide me to modify the necessary things to overclock (kernel, file...)
anyway i still want to overclock it and gpu
1dopewrx05 said:
Just a heads up, not all snapdragons are created equally. That said, there is definitely performance left to gain via OC the adreno 650 gpu of the 865. I'm currently running a massive 930mhz on my adreno 650 and a very small cpu OC and with that, it blows the 865+ away in benchmarking and trades wins with a stock SD 888 with CPU and GPU bench scores. Any OC'ing you do I highly recommend doing a stress test before thinking you're stable.
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How did you oc the cpu ? and is it possible to oc the gpu of the sd870 which is also the adreno650 but I’ve heard that it’s locked by Qualcomm trust zone , is it just a problem with sd870 or even 888 and 8 gen 1 ? Thanks in advance