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hello, before all, i know there are too many posts about improving battery life and other, but i wanted to ask my personal case. i have SGSII 2.3.6 v6, based on stock DDKQ8 2.3.6.
The thing is that having wifi, the battery life is almost normal, for a 1360 mAh battery, but with 2G or 3G the battery draining is too big, for example using only whatsapp with 2G, the battery drops so quickly, i have tried all, underclocking the phone, clearing battery stats and all kind of tricks, thank you.
The radio hardware on the phone besides the visor ilumination in one of the thing that most battery consumes!
Even if you have no mobile data on, its always consuming! when you turn that on! the usage of the radio hardware on the phone gets 5X active and thats why the battery drains so fast! if you are on a area that has poor service ... add 1 more to those 5 times!
This phone was not made to endure that "pain"
my phone can last up to 3 days on DDQ8 stocklite v6 ... and i still use it in a normal way! use mobile data! Use wi-fi! etc ...
but ... i always turn both off when not using (3G and Wi-Fi) my visor ilumination is almost at the minimum! have no animation! have no sync on ... its bad? yeeessss
Ace battery SUCK's in wathever ROM you install it ... accept it ... all we can do is minimize the "damage"
You have to choose performance or battery! Both? Nearly impossible
Enjoy your ace!
thank you very much for you advice! i will try to follow it, and then i tell you, but apart from that, i want to see more advice or something, but whatever, thank you
ZosoCharlie said:
hello, before all, i know there are too many posts about improving battery life and other, but i wanted to ask my personal case. i have SGSII 2.3.6 v6, based on stock DDKQ8 2.3.6.
The thing is that having wifi, the battery life is almost normal, for a 1360 mAh battery, but with 2G or 3G the battery draining is too big, for example using only whatsapp with 2G, the battery drops so quickly, i have tried all, underclocking the phone, clearing battery stats and all kind of tricks, thank you.
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Try the GreenPower app. It can save a lot of juice.
SnowPluralism is right. Check your batt stats and it should say cell radio has a high percentage of your batt drain. Juicedefender (& Greenpower suggested above) is an app that regulates your data, turning it off whenever your screen is off (and turning on for when your phone requests data sync). Not much more can be done.
yeah.. all battery power saver application will only regulate the data communication, gps, screen brightness.
the most energy consume is data communication. as we all know, android also have the background data communication. so eventhough the sync off, it still consume a lot of batery.
turning off the data communication will save a lot of batery.
but, android without data communication? same as blackberry without BIS (blackberry internet service). just a dumb phone
okay guys, as you are saying, im going to focus in regulate data connection, im going to try GreenPower and juicedefender, then i will come back and tell you!
Hi there.
i need a help. i try a lot of battery saver app. none of them worked well for me. can u guyz suggest me for a better battery saver app.
Thanks
In my opinion, battery saver apps are more trouble then they are worth. Basically all they do is turn your data off. You can do that yourself.
Honestly battery saver app are more harmful than helpful. When I tried couple of them, they don't help much at all except the standby time. Just check if they phone goes into deep sleep or not. Switch wifi to off in standby. Turn off the sync if you don't need. Those basic method should help you out. There are a lot of good tips on this forum but if you must use battery saver app, juice defender is your best bet with some right setting.
Hi all,
I'm new in this forum so I hope to break no rules in my first post. So first of all: I'm fighting this problem for nearly a year right now, I tried so many things I can't even remember and I really never found a answer in any forum.
I had a Samsung Nexus S which started to have this strange Android OS battery drain some weeks before the OTA ICS came in. I read thousands of forum posts to try tons of stuff to solve the problem without any success.
I then decided three weeks ago that it's obviously time to get a new phone so that I bought the Galaxy SIII (int). Strangely I still have great problems with my battery life which brought me here to ask some pros now.
Phone: Samsung Galaxy SIII (int)
ROM: StockROM (4.1.1) and CM10 Nightly
Carrier: German E-Plus
What is the most noticeable about the battery drain is, that it appears in standby (over night) in both ROMs, Stock and CM10 likewise with some minor differences.
In 10h standby (Wifi on, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC all off, only few widgets, AquaMail on push) battery goes down from 100% to 70%.
After all, I tested both ROMs in the same situation over night and the bettery drain is pretty comparable (see the screenshots).
What I already tried (in both ROMs):
- disable all Google Maps autostarts and disable all location services
- disable apps like Gtalk, G+ etc.
- uninstall AquaMail
without any effect on the standby battery drain...
Any idea about this?
Thank you,
Mika
mikakoop said:
What is the most noticeable about the battery drain is, that it appears in standby (over night) in both ROMs, Stock and CM10 likewise with some minor differences.
In 10h standby (Wifi on, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC all off, only few widgets, AquaMail on push) battery goes down from 100% to 70%.
Mika
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It can happen if u have a weak network signal. It takes out a whole lot of battery. And with wifi on, I believe that's a decent battery life. And try putting the phone on flight mode during night. Saves a real bunch of juice. And do a cache clean and reboot.
Lifehacker7 said:
It can happen if u have a weak network signal. It takes out a whole lot of battery. And with wifi on, I believe that's a decent battery life. And try putting the phone on flight mode during night. Saves a real bunch of juice. And do a cache clean and reboot.
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Thanks for the quick reply! About the network signal: in both cases the signal was pretty good. Did you check the screenshots? In both ROMs the NetworkLocationLocator seems to use much battery during night. Is that normal in standby?
What is strange as well is, that after I changed the SIM card into my new phone, did a factory reset on the old one (which I did several times before) and installed some basic stuff with a different google account, it looses some 10% in 24h in standby with Wifi on.
Is there any possibility, the battery life changes significantly with changing the google account because of differences in the contact or calendar app or whatever? Or could be the missing SIM be the huge difference in battery life?
Thanks again
Mika
Disable all sensors gs 3 has loads of them for smart stay front cam needs to be on always which drains battery.. So that should help the case
sent from cyanmobile powered Beni
mikakoop said:
it looses some 10% in 24h in standby with Wifi on.
Is there any possibility, the battery life changes significantly with changing the google account because of differences in the contact or calendar app or whatever?
Mika
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With wifi on, that's a real good battery life.! A whole day and just 10%. And I don't think battery life has anything to do with the Google account. If u have turned on auto sync, that's gonna consume some battery too as the apps like fb keep running in background.
Lifehacker7 said:
With wifi on, that's a real good battery life.! A whole day and just 10%. And I don't think battery life has anything to do with the Google account. If u have turned on auto sync, that's gonna consume some battery too as the apps like fb keep running in background.
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Hi Lifehacker7,
like I wrote, the 24h and 10% do not concern the Galaxy SIII but my old phone.
Maybe I have to clarify that again: it's not about a general battery life but about the standby power consumption. Maybe someone could have a look at the screenshots. I guess they might be very helpfull!
And again: there are two different ROMs I tried. So it could have nothing to do with the sensors and stuff since the CM10 does not use them at all...
Cheers,
Mika
nice ideas
Anybody who could maybe have a look at the BetterBatteryStats screenshots and say whether there's something conspicuous?
Is for example the deep sleep mode with its 75% in standby normal or should that be less?
Should be the Android OS (in CM10 ROM) or Android System (in StockROM) be the most power consuming process? With my old phone its always the Wifi which is first in list.
Should Google Maps with its three processes, especially the NetworkLocationLocator (see the screenshot of the StockROM) wake up the system so often in the night?
Any ideas?
mikakoop said:
Hi Lifehacker7,
like I wrote, the 24h and 10% do not concern the Galaxy SIII but my old phone.
Maybe I have to clarify that again: it's not about a general battery life but about the standby power consumption. Maybe someone could have a look at the screenshots. I guess they might be very helpfull!
And again: there are two different ROMs I tried. So it could have nothing to do with the sensors and stuff since the CM10 does not use them at all...
Cheers,
Mika
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I got this! Network locator is taking too much battery. U have the gps turned on?
Lifehacker7 said:
I got this! Network locator is taking too much battery. U have the gps turned on?
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No, I even turned off the location services completely, without any effect!
I tested both phones, my old and my new one again this night with the same turned on/off (Wifi on, GPS off, auto sync on, ...) both with a SIM card with the same carrier and both with some apps like fb, whatsapp, weather widget. Old one lost 3% in 8h, new one lost 21% in the same time.
No ideas?
You can see a bunch of threads on the google forums already regarding miserable battery life on Android 4.2.x because of LocationServices
Anyways, try this on CM10.x ...disable Location services (GPS + Wireless) ..reboot ... now enable the GPS only ... if it asks that Google will collect data in background, blah blah select Disagree ... reboot
Using Developer Option menu enable onscreen CPU Usage and leave phone on standby ... you will see that Android OS usage will come down drastically (almost stop!)
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You can see a bunch of threads on the google forums already regarding miserable battery life on Android 4.2.x because of LocationServices
Anyways, try this on CM10.x ...disable Location services (GPS + Wireless) ..reboot ... now enable the GPS only ... if it asks that Google will collect data in background, blah blah select Disagree ... reboot
Using Developer Option menu enable onscreen CPU Usage and leave phone on standby ... you will see that Android OS usage will come down drastically (almost stop!)
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Thanks for your idea!
I tried that in StockROM, and it did not change anything, same battery drain in standby. The NetworkLocationLocator in BetterBatteryStats is not listed under partial Wakelocks anymore. So I think, that's not the problem.
Any idea?
mikakoop said:
Thanks for your idea!
I tried that in StockROM, and it did not change anything, same battery drain in standby. The NetworkLocationLocator in BetterBatteryStats is not listed under partial Wakelocks anymore. So I think, that's not the problem.
Any idea?
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Can you post BBS CPU States and wakelocks screenshots
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Can you post BBS CPU States and wakelocks screenshots
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This is the 8 hours after I turned off location services on StockROM. I barely used the phone this 8 hours.
Hi everyone,
I have an lg optimus l9 p765, i mainly bought it for the battery thought it might b having a good battery life, but instead my device lasts for hardly a day with moderate - low usage. i just use whatsapp not even games, even i use it for calling (only 2g network not even 3g), is the battery life that bad? any solution for this? i'm on stock ics 4.0.4
wii4u said:
Hi everyone,
I have an lg optimus l9 p765, i mainly bought it for the battery thought it might b having a good battery life, but instead my device lasts for hardly a day with moderate - low usage. i just use whatsapp not even games, even i use it for calling (only 2g network not even 3g), is the battery life that bad? any solution for this? i'm on stock ics 4.0.4
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Check your battery usage. What is using most of your battery?
Turning screen brightness to 50% will obviously help more than just about anything else. Also make sure there aren't any issues with Media Scanner eating battery (sometimes it hangs in the background and does not let the device go to sleep--this made my battery behave very similar to yours).
Is your phone overclocked? Are processes running in the background? Once I solved my media scanner solution, my phone lasts for a couple days with moderate usage (games, wifi web).
Let us know what things are using the most of your battery (settings>power saver>battery use) and maybe we can go from there.
prankish said:
Check your battery usage. What is using most of your battery?
Turning screen brightness to 50% will obviously help more than just about anything else. Also make sure there aren't any issues with Media Scanner eating battery (sometimes it hangs in the background and does not let the device go to sleep--this made my battery behave very similar to yours).
Is your phone overclocked? Are processes running in the background? Once I solved my media scanner solution, my phone lasts for a couple days with moderate usage (games, wifi web).
Let us know what things are using the most of your battery (settings>power saver>battery use) and maybe we can go from there.
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Display uses 72% of battery..screen brightness is usually between 10-50% never more than that..i dont know abt media scanner issue can u help me with that n wats d solution for that? no overclock,did not even root,didnt even unlock my bootloader on stock ics 4.0.4
use only whatsapp,gmail with sync is on,calling is done mainly all on 2g gsm only (3g n wifi is switched off)
thnk u in advance
Try an hard reset
Hi!!!! I recently bought K900 32GB version, These are the problems i am facing :
1. Heating issues
While using camera or browsing images in gallery or just surfing internet.
2. The battery backup doesnt even last for 8 hours although wifi,gps,backgroung sync ,data connections are off. The phone is in 2G mode with no applications running.
3. The phone discharges although the charger is plugged on.
4. The signal strength is less than 50% when other phones get 80+% coverage.
5. The 3G data speed is lesser than 2G data transmssion rate.
Please help.
Hi,
I will have your thread moved to your device section.
Good luck!
Unfortunately heating issues are "normal". You should adjust your brightness level to further prolong battery life. Make sure that you have your network signal sorted out via the settings. Make sure it's either in WCDMA mode or WCDMA is in priority. The other problems, you should have your unit checked out.
Hope this helps.