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Hey guys,
Are there any Galaxy Mega users going back to the Note 2? I went back after using the Mega 6.3 for around 2 weeks and I gotta tell ya, I'm happy I went back.
The Mega feels so slow and laggy, I'm constantly finding myself having to clear the RAM and close all tasks just to speed things up.
Swiping left to right always have a slight lag, opening the app draw has lag, heck even returning via home button is laggy. Exiting Apps like the browser seems to drop the animation of exiting it down to like 20fps.
Everything just feels like it stutters and lags, the phone feels like it's constantly crawling and the "pinch-in" lag is back too.
Don't get me wrong I love this phone, mostly for it size but in no way is it a bad phone. But I am slightly disappointed a phone with a processor that has similar instructions A15 isn't 100% smooth.
I've seen alot of you guy say you have a buttery smooth Mega, I wish my was the same, but it's far from buttery.
All in all, I'm happy I went back to the Galaxy Note 2, it feels so much faster and smoother.
just my few pennies.
P.S - Forgot my username and email address so had to make a new acount, doh!
Ten Quid said:
Hey guys,
Are there any Galaxy Mega users going back to the Note 2? I went back after using the Mega 6.3 for around 2 weeks and I gotta tenotificationappy I went back.
The Mega feels so slow and laggy, I'm constantly finding myself having to clear the RAM and close all tasks just to speed things up.
Swiping left to right always have a slight lag, opening the app draw has lag, heck even returning via home button is laggy. Exiting Apps like the browser seems to drop the animation of exiting it down to like 20fps.
Everything just feels like it stutters and lags, the phone feels like it's constantly crawling and the "pinch-in" lag is back too.
Don't get me wrong I love this phone, mostly for it size but in no way is it a bad phone. But I am slightly disappointed a phone with a processor that has similar instructions A15 isn't 100% smooth.
I've seen alot of you guy say you have a buttery smooth Mega, I wish my was the same, but it's far from buttery.
All in all, I'm happy I went back to the Galaxy Note 2, it feels so much faster and smoother.
just my few pennies.
P.S - Forgot my username and email address so had to make a new acount, doh!
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I hear you. The only slowness I am experiencing is the android notification bar. But its getting progressively worse. I disabled all animations and it sped the notification for a little but but now it's slow again. The device is very snappy but the ridiculously slow notification bar swipe is unacceptable. I am waiting for the Note 3 now......
sorry to hear you are having poor performance. Again I've only experienced iit when swyping down on the notification bar.
Hmmm I've been playing with my mega a week. I should of put that better ha .
It is a bit laggy n jerky now and again. But for £300 I'm really impressed and it exceeds my needs. Especially with screen size, design and how slim it is.
I'm selling my note 2 on eBay. And staying with the mega 6.3.
numbnutsuk said:
Hmmm I've been playing with my mega a week. I should of put that better ha .
It is a bit laggy n jerky now and again. But for £300 I'm really impressed and it exceeds my needs. Especially with screen size, design and how slim it is.
I'm selling my note 2 on eBay. And staying with the mega 6.3.
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I'm positive that a software update will fix the lags. I feel like Samsung rushed the software for the Mega 6.3 that's why it's not that optimized for the processor.
I own both Note II and Mega 6.3 I9205. The slowdown you mentioned has got something to do with samsung launcher and the rom itself. Update
the ROM to the latest version available. I think that was XXUAMG4 or better yet download the customized one available in this forum (android development). The mega launcher was entirely different from GS4 and Note2. It support landscape mode and the built-in widget resizes accordingly.
I think this was taken from touchwiz tablets. Try to use Nova Launcher instead, then see if you still experience noticeable slowdowns. My mega 6.3 is butter-smooth with Nova launcher. I have never experienced any slowdowns at all, and will never go back to samsung's laggy default laucher. Also try to enable "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer's Section settings. Do not under-estimate power of Snapdragon 400 vs Exynos 4212. It's a hell lot faster in FPU. In fact in most benchmark, its faster than note 2 specially the graphics department. I confirmed this using the latest 3DMark. Dual-core vs quad-core does not make sense anymore. The CPU architecture is what really matters.
Also, the 1.5GB ram is more than enough for daily tablet/phone use. That includes gaming. My Nexus 7 is very fast running JB 4.3 with only 1GB of ram. My Windows 7 Pro netbook, which am using right now, only comes with 1GB of ram but still perform quite decently in multitasking considering that Windows 7 has got more bloatwares in it that Android JB and IOS combined.
I also use Nova Launcher and never had any slowdowns. I find my Mega smoother than my Nexus 7 and my original Note on custom ROM.
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I own both Note II and Mega 6.3 I9205. The slowdown you mentioned has got something to do with samsung launcher and the rom itself. Update
the ROM to the latest version available. I think that was XXUAMG4 or better yet download the customized one available in this forum (android development). The mega launcher was entirely different from GS4 and Note2. It support landscape mode and the built-in widget resizes accordingly.
I think this was taken from touchwiz tablets. Try to use Nova Launcher instead, then see if you still experience noticeable slowdowns. My mega 6.3 is butter-smooth with Nova launcher. I have never experienced any slowdowns at all, and will never go back to samsung's laggy default laucher. Also try to enable "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer's Section settings. Do not under-estimate power of Snapdragon 400 vs Exynos 4212. It's a hell lot faster in FPU. In fact in most benchmark, its faster than note 2 specially the graphics department. I confirmed this using the latest 3DMark. Dual-core vs quad-core does not make sense anymore. The CPU architecture is what really matters.
Also, the 1.5GB ram is more than enough for daily tablet/phone use. That includes gaming. My Nexus 7 is very fast running JB 4.3 with only 1GB of ram. My Windows 7 Pro netbook, which am using right now, only comes with 1GB of ram but still perform quite decently in multitasking considering that Windows 7 has got more bloatwares in it that Android JB and IOS combined.
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Thanks, I'll have to update it then because right now, whether it's the launcher or ROM it's ruining the experience.
I tried Nova Launcher and it was equally as bad if not worse the Touchwiz, it was still jerky and laggy.
And I agree, the benchmarks for the Snapdragon 400 are great and beat the Exynos 4 alot, but for me personally at the moment in terms of everyday use the Note 2's performance is so much better and smooth. I'd really like to keep the Mega, but unless the performance improves dramatically within a new update then I'll be keeping the Note 2. I'll try a custom ROM and the latest update, fingers crossed.
I experienced the slow notification bar and I was running ADW launcher. I disabled animations and it still was slow. I returned my Mega because of this. It was a total deal breaker.
Yes your right it lags sometimes
But thats why I am waiting CM team hopefully or anyone to build AOKP or CM or AOSP
When it reaches the mega it will be awesome
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I have been thinking about going back, but i think i'm gonna sit it out till the Note III gets released.
The Mega has it's slow points now but i trust in samsung fixing some in the upcomming updates.
SquirtingCherry said:
I have been thinking about going back, but i think i'm gonna sit it out till the Note III gets released.
The Mega has it's slow points now but i trust in samsung fixing some in the upcomming updates.
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And maybe CM coming over on the big screen ^^
I don't know exactly why some mega 6.3 owners experienced some significant slowdowns.
Maybe because of the ff:
1. Outdated ROM. Try to install the latest available rom even if its not for your country (XXUAMG4).
2. Stock launcher from samsung. Use Nova launcher or any other payware launcher of your choice.
3. Use Seeder program. I may help speed things up.
4. Flash stock kernel after rooting and stop using vcore2 kernel
5. You may have a faulty slow microSD.
6. Some other apps you have installed maybe affecting your otherwise speedy JB 4.2.2
I'm coming from a Moto G, That phone has a 1.2 Quad Core, 1GB ram, so similar to the S3, I would still be using it only I broke the screen so Im using my wifes old S3.
On stock 4.3 it was a disaster so I spent yesterday playing about with ROM's and to be honest I can't get much improvement over stock, the best I found was CM11 however it was a disaster with battery life, in fact a lot of these ROMS are, My Moto G has a smaller battery but lasts twice as long as the S3 battery life and yes I bought a new genuine battery.
It seems to me TW based ROMS, jerky, redraws etc, or CM based smooth but rubbish battery life. My old Moto G was buttery smooth with excellent battery life and it has lower specs than the S3 in all areas so there can be no excuse for this. Any advice on where I am going wrong?
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I'm coming from a Moto G, That phone has a 1.2 Quad Core, 1GB ram, so similar to the S3, I would still be using it only I broke the screen so Im using my wifes old S3.
On stock 4.3 it was a disaster so I spent yesterday playing about with ROM's and to be honest I can't get much improvement over stock, the best I found was CM11 however it was a disaster with battery life, in fact a lot of these ROMS are, My Moto G has a smaller battery but lasts twice as long as the S3 battery life and yes I bought a new genuine battery.
It seems to me TW based ROMS, jerky, redraws etc, or CM based smooth but rubbish battery life. My old Moto G was buttery smooth with excellent battery life and it has lower specs than the S3 in all areas so there can be no excuse for this. Any advice on where I am going wrong?
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Try using stock + AGNi kernel with these settings:
Governor - lulactiveq-mod
Internal + external scheduler - row
CPU max freq - 1600mhz
CPU undervolting - 30mv
AGNi preloadSWAP - On
Touchboost - 800mhz
Internal + External SD readahead - 3072
LZ4 ZRAM - 500mb
FRANDOM RNG - On
Or keep it simply: NCSROM 8.1
7h SOT
slugger09 said:
I'm coming from a Moto G, That phone has a 1.2 Quad Core, 1GB ram, so similar to the S3, I would still be using it only I broke the screen so Im using my wifes old S3.
On stock 4.3 it was a disaster so I spent yesterday playing about with ROM's and to be honest I can't get much improvement over stock, the best I found was CM11 however it was a disaster with battery life, in fact a lot of these ROMS are, My Moto G has a smaller battery but lasts twice as long as the S3 battery life and yes I bought a new genuine battery.
It seems to me TW based ROMS, jerky, redraws etc, or CM based smooth but rubbish battery life. My old Moto G was buttery smooth with excellent battery life and it has lower specs than the S3 in all areas so there can be no excuse for this. Any advice on where I am going wrong?
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Neatrom AOSP or Archidroid 2.x.x stable
easily 4hr SOT
Does the Moto G have background data sync like the S3? This can be disabled. The background data is the biggest user of battery.
slugger09 said:
I'm coming from a Moto G, That phone has a 1.2 Quad Core, 1GB ram, so similar to the S3, I would still be using it only I broke the screen so Im using my wifes old S3.
On stock 4.3 it was a disaster so I spent yesterday playing about with ROM's and to be honest I can't get much improvement over stock, the best I found was CM11 however it was a disaster with battery life, in fact a lot of these ROMS are, My Moto G has a smaller battery but lasts twice as long as the S3 battery life and yes I bought a new genuine battery.
It seems to me TW based ROMS, jerky, redraws etc, or CM based smooth but rubbish battery life. My old Moto G was buttery smooth with excellent battery life and it has lower specs than the S3 in all areas so there can be no excuse for this. Any advice on where I am going wrong?
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Using a CM or OMNI ROM+ Seeder may help you to improve performances.
So is honor 5X running CM13 or any other "lightweight" ROM significantly faster?
I used Nexus 5 for 2,5 years. What a great phone it was.
My usage consists of:
a) endomondo,
b) relay for reddit,
c) browsing teh internet,
No gaming whatsoever.
My N5's power button died (RIP) so I decided to give Honor 5X a shot, since I had opportunity to get it really cheap.
I love the feeling of the phone, the screen and battery life and fingerprint sensor are amazing - even the camera which is mediocre at best by today's standards surpasses the one on my good old N5.
BUT it is so much slower than N5 that it starts to really grind my gears.
When an app is opened, it works just fine - however the speed of changing apps is terrible, EMUI is way too aggressive with RAM management aswell. Waiting 5s for hangouts to load gets annoying really fast.
I currently use Nova Prime with stock OS and other than the speed itself I have no complaints, I really like the phone.
So, my question is: did you notice significant speed increase after flashing CM/alike ROM? Is it worth the hassle for someone who did not do it before?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I believe that is a noticeable performance increase and is well worth trying out - just make sure you make a full Nandroid backup in case anything goes wrong and then you're safe to do as you please. I don't think it's too much hassle. It's pretty fast for this kind of hardware at this price point, But of course, this isn't a flagship phone like a Nexus so don't expect speeds of that caliber. Overall CM 13 feels buttery smooth to me. I have no issues with it whatsoever. Some people may have issues with XPosed, but so far I have none- your mileage may vary.
The only thing you might miss is the current lack of Fingerprint support - the Devs are aware of this and are working hard at this and are always being harassed about it, haha. Real work on that sensor won't be until the Official Marshmallow release, and it's not even a guarantee since the devs work on this ROM in their spare time. I still give props to crpalmer for providing us with such a nice CM13 for the Honor 5X.
Yes. Former Nexus 5 user as well and I loved that phone to death. CM13 performance on the Honor 5X is comparable to Marshmallow on N5. Very occasional minor hitches and glitches, and the rare crash and reboot, but overall buttery smooth just like the N5 and I am very happy with it. Leaps and bounds better than EMUI.
Biggest improvement is multitasking in my opinion. The EMUI Task switcher is glitchy and clunky and as soon as you start flying back and forth between apps on the recent screen in CM13 it will hit you how slow and limiting EMUI has been.
yes, I am running parallel shifts on SlimROM by @jsbeyond and the default EMUI (rooted and debloated), and the difference is quite telling! It almost seems like a competent athlete speeding away to the racing line while running Slim, while on EMUI it runs like an injured confused directionless bum. Only thing I miss from EMUI is the camera app
Like @mtmv2 said, multi tasking and fluidity is where you will feel most of the difference. I personally felt that the audio output (speakers) on Slim is also way less muffled than in EMUI. I use V4A as well, on both, so I am sure of the difference in audio with the same V4A profiles running in both environments. Battery on Slim is more controllable for drain, privacy protection, boot apps control etc is way better. Best of all is the battery saver, that stops the auto-sync only and helps battery last longer unlike in the EMUI which turns the phone into a 1990s sort of device with call and paging functions the moment you pick "battery saving mode"! Least said the better, but Slim restores all the android dignity of icons and animations compared to the toyish, immature, wannabe UI of the OEM.
I have owned RN3P for two months now, and I'm pretty satisfied with it, except from the camera ofcourse. Just now, I saw a ad on olx for Nexus 5x for pretty reasonable price and now I'm confused should I sell my RN3P and get the nexus device. I know that Nexus 5x has SD808 and Adreno 418, which are definitely inferior to RN3P's config. So, on paper, RN3P blows Nexus 5x out of the water. But, on the other side, Nexus devices PERFORM, and also the nexus 5x sports a much much better camera than RN3P. I don't click much photos, but anyone would like to have a good camera phone. I don't care about battery too much and 2700mah on nexus 5x will be enough for me. And, I do use my phone for bit of gaming (MC4 :-B).
So, if someone has both the devices or just want to give a advice. Please comment..!!
One doesn't appreciate the battery until one jumps to the nexus side......
Seriosuly let aside bells and whistles that our RN3's provides, the battery experience simply cannot be replaced. I used to own the nexus 5x and trust me it's battery sucks, 3-4 hours of SOT. After using RN3 I simply cannot go back to nexus just because of the battery.
Yes if you need a device to tinker with then nexus is an awesome phone but for daily usage I would recommend RN3
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One doesn't appreciate the battery until one jumps to the nexus side......
Seriosuly let aside bells and whistles that our RN3's provides, the battery experience simply cannot be replaced. I used to own the nexus 5x and trust me it's battery sucks, 3-4 hours of SOT. After using RN3 I simply cannot back to nexus just because of the battery.
Yes if you need a device to tinker with then nexus is an awesome phone but for daily usage I would recommend RN3
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What about the difference in performance and camera..?
You've already answered your own question. But in my words:
-If you want to have a nice camera on your phone, with a flagship branding, and clean Stock Android experience, get the Nexus 5x.
-If you need a Big 5.5" screen, with heavy gaming & good battery, and if you can bear MIUI, then keep the RN3 Pro.
Just keep these points in mind. Forget about normal performance. Both phones will perform on par, when on normal usage, because 5x being on stock Android will feel much snappier and light-weight, as compared to MIUI powered RN3 Pro, even if RN3 Pro has more powerful processor. (See I'm talking about normal usage, not heavy such as games etc.), Also, Big battery is a big advantage of RN3 Pro, over 5x. Keep it in mind as well.
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What about the difference in performance and camera..?
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Camera is much much better than RN3 but also SD 650 beats 808 on performance. So you decide yourself, that you want better community support and faster updates or overall better vfm device.
AtomR said:
You've already answered your own question. But in my words:
-If you want to have a nice camera on your phone, with a flagship branding, and clean Stock Android experience, get the Nexus 5x.
-If you need a Big 5.5" screen, with heavy gaming & good battery, and if you can bear MIUI, then keep the RN3 Pro.
Just keep these points in mind. Forget about normal performance. Both phones will perform on par, when on normal usage, because 5x being on stock Android will feel much snappier and light-weight, as compared to MIUI powered RN3 Pro, even if RN3 Pro has more powerful processor. (See I'm talking about normal usage, not heavy such as games etc.)
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Yeah, I got that, even RN3 on CM or any other custom ROMs is "much snappier", significantly. But, in gaming performance, MIUI literally performs better.
sasukay said:
Yeah, I got that, even RN3 on CM or any other custom ROMs is "much snappier", significantly. But, in gaming performance, MIUI literally performs better.
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Well, games performs good in MIUI 'cause it's the default ROM shipped on the phone. You know, some (read: most) custom ROMs' performance degrades for obvious reasons. If Xiaomi has shipped RN3 with AOSP, then games would perform as good as they're currently on MIUI. Seriously, I can't understand, why Chinese companies make Android skins with iOS-y looks. It doesn't even come close to iOS this way. lol.
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Well, games performs good in MIUI 'cause it's the default ROM shipped on the phone. You know, some (read: most) custom ROMs' performance degrades for obvious reasons. If Xiaomi has shipped RN3 with AOSP, then games would perform as good as they're currently on MIUI. Seriously, I can't understand, why Chinese companies make Android skins with iOS-y looks. It doesn't even come close to iOS this way. lol.
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Well, MIUI skin is not that bad. I mean, you could get used to it. The bad part is the bloatwares that come along with it.
And, I don't really understand how's this possible but even after heavy customization, the gaming performance is better in other non-xiaomi devices too. Earlier I had Lenovo A6k+, and not only the Antutu scores went up to 38k from 22k, but also the gaming became extremely smooth, after flashing MIUI ROM.
P.S. : I've dropped my plan getting Nexus 5x.
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Well, MIUI skin is not that bad. I mean, you could get used to it. The bad part is the bloatwares that come along with it.
And, I don't really understand how's this possible but even after heavy customization, the gaming performance is better in other non-xiaomi devices too. Earlier I had Lenovo A6k+, and not only the Antutu scores went up to 38k from 22k, but also the gaming became extremely smooth, after flashing MIUI ROM.
P.S. : I've dropped my plan getting Nexus 5x.
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Then there must be something special in MIUI, if it can increase that much of AnTuTu score.
BTW, Nice to see, you made the decision.
Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The 8GB model is blazing fast! Note8 stays far behind.
Amazing
Insane. Way better than my Note8 and that phone was quick!
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Insane. Way better than my Note8 and that phone was quick!
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This!
Blazing fast!! No lag in sight. And I'm not even in performance mode, which I always was in with the Note8.
I would say it's significantly faster than any other Android device I've owned. Apps load much faster, network performance is about 4x faster on average than my prior phone, even system updates are faster.
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I would say it's significantly faster than any other Android device I've owned. Apps load much faster, network performance is about 4x faster on average than my prior phone, even system updates are faster.
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Restart time is insanely fast too!
How is the 6gb vs the 8gb in speed of opening apps, etc? I don't play games
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How is the 6gb vs the 8gb in speed of opening apps, etc? I don't play games
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I have the 8GB model and my partner has the 6GB and we did some testing the other day and there was no real difference. Had 30 apps open as well as Spotify streaming whilst downloading a torrent via uTorrent and neither model showed any signs of lag/delay. I'm starting to think that the 8GB version is a bit over kill, maybe in the future we could utilise it when playing game's or what not.
TLDR, if you looking at buying the Note9 and don't the need the extra storage space just get the 6GB version, can always get an SD card.
6gb is same as 8 gb.... Just get 6gb it is cheaper.
This is great info. Im coming from the S9 and at time this thing is slow.
Was stunned to get 100Mbps deep in a building
Definitely faster than any other android device I've had. Coming from s7 edge. All specs and day to day use so far blows everything else out the water. Just got mines Saturday. 128gb with 6gb of ram
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I would say it's significantly faster than any other Android device I've owned. Apps load much faster, network performance is about 4x faster on average than my prior phone, even system updates are faster.
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The Galaxy Speed is really huge
I'm a Note 4 & S7 user previously... and I bought Note 9 Exynos 128gb and BAM! I was shocked how fast & quick & smoothie it is... I began to miss the old days when I switch between Apps or multitasking it would lag AF!
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I'm a Note 4 & S7 user previously... and I bought Note 9 Exynos 128gb and BAM! I was shocked how fast & quick & smoothie it is... I began to miss the old days when I switch between Apps or multitasking it would lag AF!
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So far you haven’t experienced any lag or any little hiccups?
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So far you haven’t experienced any lag or any little hiccups?
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I can assure you that... not at all
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I can assure you that... not at all
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Amen!
Just switched from the Note 3, and got the Exynos 6/128, definitely a fast and snappy phone. Very glad I got it