Note 8 review by a 10 year iPhone user - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion

Found a funny video and I learned something new about icrap as well.
https://youtu.be/hAIheqG5ZQ8
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lol very good !!

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Found a funny video and I learned something new about icrap as well.]
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Ahh iphonedo, a very dramatic guy. He has great drones videos.

hahha this was very entertaining, this guy is great

Zionator said:
Found a funny video and I learned something new about icrap as well.
https://youtu.be/hAIheqG5ZQ8
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Classic, and at the end he still prefers the iPhone due to its ecosystem. Its hard to break out of the iPhone cult.
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For a pretty hardcore Apple Fanboy, he seemed quite amazed with what the Note 8 (and Android in general) could do that the iPhone couldn't. Many Apple users who've never used an Android just assume an iPhone is superior to an Android in every respect because they get sucked into the Apple Reality Distortion Bubble and don't have an informed opinion. It was refreshing to see this guy give credit where credit was due instead of just focusing on Android's weaknesses to the exclusion of all else, like many other Apple-leaning reviewers.

Torquemada288 said:
For a pretty hardcore Apple Fanboy, he seemed quite amazed with what the Note 8 (and Android in general) could do that the iPhone couldn't. Many Apple users who've never used an Android just assume an iPhone is superior to an Android in every respect because they get sucked into the Apple Reality Distortion Bubble and don't have an informed opinion. It was refreshing to see this guy give credit where credit was due instead of just focusing on Android's weaknesses to the exclusion of all else, like many other Apple-leaning reviewers.
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Just wait til regular people get the iPhone X in their hands. The first time they see an OLED screen and an edge-to-edge display, they'll think it's the second coming of Steve Jobs. I remember a lot of iPhone users (and even professional reviewers) making fun of the early Notes because they were gigantic compared to the 5-inch iPhones then. Now you have a lot of Plus users who'd never think of going back to a phone the same size as a 5s or SE.

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Just wait til regular people get the iPhone X in their hands. The first time they see an OLED screen and an edge-to-edge display, they'll think it's the second coming of Steve Jobs. I remember a lot of iPhone users (and even professional reviewers) making fun of the early Notes because they were gigantic compared to the 5-inch iPhones then. Now you have a lot of Plus users who'd never think of going back to a phone the same size as a 5s or SE.
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It will be hilarious watching the Apple fanbois get hard over technology that's already been on Android for ages and proclaim it to be "game changing" and more reason iPhones are better than Android. Clueless little twats.

In that video, the one-handed mode allowed for custom sizing... mine doesn't do that. Am I the only one? And that swiping in from the top corner to get a little floating window... what the heck is that?? Mine is not doing that either! Is this maybe a launcher-specific thing? I can still get one-handed mode but it's locked to one size for me (using the sideloaded Pixel Launcher right now).
Also, this guy is extremely entertaining and I thoroughly enjoyed this video!

PsiPhiDan said:
In that video, the one-handed mode allowed for custom sizing... mine doesn't do that. Am I the only one? And that swiping in from the top corner to get a little floating window... what the heck is that?? Mine is not doing that either! Is this maybe a launcher-specific thing? I can still get one-handed mode but it's locked to one size for me (using the sideloaded Pixel Launcher right now).
Also, this guy is extremely entertaining and I thoroughly enjoyed this video!
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if i remember correctly, you needed to turn ON that option to make it work like that.

koolboyztn said:
if i remember correctly, you needed to turn ON that option to make it work like that.
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I turned on the "popup view" and it shows that resizing in the settings menu. In practice, it just pulls down my notification shade or does nothing for me. Oh well.

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Switch to incredible 4g from iPhone 4s

I'm thinking about doing it. Anyone else make the plunge? What do you think of the incredible vs the 4s?
I haven't but I guess it just depends on what you like or dislike about your operating system and the phone looks.
I've never owned an apple anything much less an Iphone. I will say this though, I do have friends that have Iphones and I watch them power it up, zip right to an app or go right to the phone and start dialing away, seems pretty fast to me. My Dinc is somewhat laggy compared to their speeds of hitting buttons, like waiting for my dialer to come up or say the market to load or other stuff.
Now I realize I got apps I've downloaded etc, but so have they. I'm not pitching a sales for Iphone because I am not an Apple fan however, I personally think the Iphone is a hell of a lot sexier than most any other makers phones available. That aluminum housing is just badass looking.
Also realize this is just my thoughts compared to an OG Dinc, I would imagine the Inc 4g should be a crapload faster than my Dinc....
My gf just got this phone from the iPhone 4 yesterday. She loves it so far and is absolutely amazed how much you can customize. She was a little overwhelmed from everything but that's just because the iPhone had literally nothing to customize. Screen is soo crisp, an phone is fast.
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ohredwood said:
I would imagine the Inc 4g should be a crapload faster than my Dinc....
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Yes. This phone is a world of difference from the original Incredible. I loved the original Incredible but there was never any question that the iPhone was smoother--just completely impossible to customize without jailbreaking. With the Incredible 4G and Ice Cream Sandwich optimizations, the difference is negligible. So now it's really just a question of whether you want customizability or not, and which UI design you prefer. I think Sense 4 is much more beautiful than iOS, but that's a matter of taste.
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Polarimetric, that's good to hear, and what I was hoping to hear myself. One question though, I know I've heard of jailbreaking, and my interpretation of this was the same thing as rooting? If that's the case wouldn't the Iphone peeps have the same level as customizing their Iphones as we do our Androids?
I had a 4s prior. Yes pretty customizable if jailbroken, had nice themes. However I find myself preferring android, because of more options, connectivity, and 4G service, of course on Verizon.
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ohredwood said:
Polarimetric, that's good to hear, and what I was hoping to hear myself. One question though, I know I've heard of jailbreaking, and my interpretation of this was the same thing as rooting? If that's the case wouldn't the Iphone peeps have the same level as customizing their Iphones as we do our Androids?
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Theoretically, yes. Jailbreaking and rooting are pretty much the same thing (they're both just essentially using an exploit to remove the restrictions placed on the phone by the carrier/manufacturer/OS developer), so iPhones and Android phones in theory should be customizable to the same degree. However, one of the reasons the Android dev community is so much more robust (and thus Android phones are considerably more customizable) is the difference between Google's attitude toward the dev community and Apple's attitude. While Google has largely taken a look-the-other-way approach (the only way in which they've really ever put their foot down is disallowing Google-branded apps from being distributed with custom ROMs, but they've never done anything about the Gapps packages that float around the internet), Apple has devoted hours upon hours of development toward addling or completely getting rid of the iPhone dev community. Although they've been unsuccessful and jailbreaking still exists, Apple's adamant anti-development, closed-source policy has turned many developers toward Android. While almost all Android phones are customizable all the way down to the system level (installing a custom ROM can completely change the user experience), iPhones are mostly just tweakable. An iPhone is always going to be an iPhone. If you like iPhones, that may not be a problem for you, but if you like being part of a community that pretty much guarantees choice, Android will always be the way to go.
im on the verge of switching from my 4s to the inc 4g lte due to the fact that i miss android. this is my 3rd time switching from the iphone to android due to the fact that i miss lte and the community :silly:
My dad just traded in 2 old iphones and got the inc4
i think he will like the switch from crapple to android.
esp once i steal and root his phone,
IMO the only thing this phone needs is an Amoled screen and it would be absolutely perfect. Battery life is excellent even in low signal areas like my home. I really don't have anything to complain about with this phone...and I'm pretty picky. I'm just not a fan of the larger screen phones...battery life suffers tremendously. My wife was playing with it all weekend, she has the iphone 4s and wants the Inc 4G immediately. And she is a die-hard iphone junky. Let's see how she feels when the iphone 5 comes out...hehe.
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IMO the only thing this phone needs is an Amoled screen and it would be absolutely perfect. Battery life is excellent even in low signal areas like my home. I really don't have anything to complain about with this phone...and I'm pretty picky. I'm just not a fan of the larger screen phones...battery life suffers tremendously. My wife was playing with it all weekend, she has the iphone 4s and wants the Inc 4G immediately. And she is a die-hard iphone junky. Let's see how she feels when the iphone 5 comes out...hehe.
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I think even once icrap5 comes out inc4 will still be on top, crapple just sucks, what are they gunna do make it a 3.8' screen. lol, iphone4s was the biggest joke in scmartphone history.
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I think even once icrap5 comes out inc4 will still be on top, crapple just sucks, what are they gunna do make it a 3.8' screen. lol, iphone4s was the biggest joke in scmartphone history.
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I don't see how that can be said. I went from a DINC 1 to the iPhone 4S and was amazed with how smooth it is. I miss Android and flashing stuff some, so I'm looking back into it a bit. Just don't understand the statements like this. The thing is stupid fast, takes some amazing pictures, and the battery life has been killer.
Not a fanboy at all, just can respect things. If the DINC 4G LTE came out before the 28th, I'd have snagged one and kept my unlimited. Now I think I'll have to buy phones outright. :crying:
If you have been sticking with iPhone or at least iPod or iPad, I strongly recommend you to move over to Android world. I had iPhone 4S before (although it's not my previous phone), it's dramatic but more fun to discover. iPhone was just too bring for me, and I didn't like jailbreaking because the system got unstable. If you like customizing stuff, I'm pretty sure you would like the phone!
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I don't see how that can be said. I went from a DINC 1 to the iPhone 4S and was amazed with how smooth it is. I miss Android and flashing stuff some, so I'm looking back into it a bit. Just don't understand the statements like this. The thing is stupid fast, takes some amazing pictures, and the battery life has been killer.
Not a fanboy at all, just can respect things. If the DINC 4G LTE came out before the 28th, I'd have snagged one and kept my unlimited. Now I think I'll have to buy phones outright. :crying:
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While I agree his statement was childish...
You went from the dinc 1 to the iPhone 4s... That's like going from a tube tv to a 1080 Samsung flat screen. I owned the dinc 1 before but that was like 10 tech years ago...
Comparing the latest incredible 4g to the iphone 4s would be more fair. I am stunned how far android has evolved and HTC Sense becoming an actual benefit rather than a burden.
So far the incredible has a great camera, killer OS, and is smooth as butter. I just wish manufactures really did spend more time coming out with quality 4 inchers.
HTC is the maker. Cmon google! Give them the nexus.
PhillyCheez said:
While I agree his statement was childish...
You went from the dinc 1 to the iPhone 4s... That's like going from a tube tv to a 1080 Samsung flat screen. I owned the dinc 1 before but that was like 10 tech years ago...
Comparing the latest incredible 4g to the iphone 4s would be more fair. I am stunned how far android has evolved and HTC Sense becoming an actual benefit rather than a burden.
So far the incredible has a great camera, killer OS, and is smooth as butter. I just wish manufactures really did spend more time coming out with quality 4 inchers.
HTC is the maker. Cmon google! Give them the nexus.
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According to the rumor mill, Google is giving everyone the Nexus. http://www.redmondpie.com/google-wi...h-november-to-commemorate-5-years-of-android/
So HTC getting the Nexus? How is that going to work?
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According to the rumor mill, Google is giving everyone the Nexus. http://www.redmondpie.com/google-wi...h-november-to-commemorate-5-years-of-android/
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If I read that right it says, "Google looks to be going all-out in an attempt to appease consumers in both software and hardware, the latter of which will likely be all provided by Samsung."
I really hope those 5 devices aren't Samsung!
PhillyCheez said:
If I read that right it says, "Google looks to be going all-out in an attempt to appease consumers in both software and hardware, the latter of which will likely be all provided by Samsung."
I really hope those 5 devices aren't Samsung!
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Ooh. Should have read the specific article I linked to before I linked you to it.
That article seems to theorize they'll all be Samsung, but most other articles I've read have said that the 5 incoming Nexus devices will come from all different manufacturers, bringing more diversity to the Nexus phone brand. Here's a better article on the same subject that lines up better with what I wanted to say: http://androidandme.com/2012/05/new...from-different-manufacturers-by-thanksgiving/
So, essentially, if the rumor is true, the major manufacturers (presumably HTC and Samsung, obviously the Google-owned Motorola; the other two depend on who they can get--I'd bet Asus will be one of them) would all contribute a phone to the Nexus brand, making Google's Nexus store kind of like a carrier of its own.
I am down for that!
Considering I'm stuck buying phones at retail I'm in for sure. Very exciting news.
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I'm thinking about doing it. Anyone else make the plunge? What do you think of the incredible vs the 4s?
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The incredible is a way better choice, u will be happy with ur decision, considering ur going to root it, only get it if ur planning on rooting. I am purchasing this phone tomorrow, upgrading from the HTC Thunderbolt and I'm very exited.
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Is it me, or does anyone else have phone ADD?

I've had Android since the HTC hero on sprint, moved to the Evo Shift, got the nexus S, and now the new evo.
This phone is incredible, but I'm just bored as hell. Does anyone else get really bored with their phone?
I'm thinking of selling this and buying an iPhone, only because it finally somewhat caught up to android and it's just different.
How much do you think I should sell this phone for? Also, if I did want an android after the iphone, the iPhone has amazing resale value and thats just attractive as well.
Oops free thanks there
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Have fun with your iPhone 5 which just now caught up to the OG EVO in terms of technology....
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When I get bored I flash a new ROM and play with that lol
all the roms are the same imo.
all sense roms look and feel the same
I had miui and aosp on my nexus s and had that.
Im just bored lol
Iphone 5 isnt that bad. its got a solid processor thats better than the current s4.
The build quality has also always been really good too.
Well, the glass panel on the back was a poor decision but overall I agree on build quality
You're bored with ANDROID and think an iPhone will excite you?? Hahaha.
Enjoy deciding whether your icons are on screen one or screen two.
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I understand where you are coming from, but if you are a tech geek iphone won't excite you for long, you just want the latest toys. The tech everyone wants. And right now you are trying to justify it
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I understand where you are coming from, but if you are a tech geek iphone won't excite you for long, you just want the latest toys. The tech everyone wants. And right now you are trying to justify it
Swyped on my EVO LTE
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If i had the nexus s and the evo now.. im pretty sure thats not the case.
sell evo
buy ip5
sell ip5
buy newest android.
The Iphone 5 processor is better than the s4? Sure, on paper it looks nice but I personally won't make that call until I get to use them side by side. The s4 is such a good processor that even Samsung uses it in the us version of the galaxy 3. I'm not an apple fan, but in fairness, they make nice devices. To each their own.
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Keep evo
**** on iphone 5
Buy next best Android device in 6 months
Win.
- I'm a fungi
joebarkho said:
I've had Android since the HTC hero on sprint, moved to the Evo Shift, got the nexus S, and now the new evo.
This phone is incredible, but I'm just bored as hell. Does anyone else get really bored with their phone?
I'm thinking of selling this and buying an iPhone, only because it finally somewhat caught up to android and it's just different.
How much do you think I should sell this phone for? Also, if I did want an android after the iphone, the iPhone has amazing resale value and thats just attractive as well.
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Hey Joe, I been with Apple iPhone since the iPhone 3G-3GS. I got all into it and started to learn the process for jailbreaking. Let me just tell say, it was fun but like every customization. Not everything works! Due to the jailbreaking team catching up on the random iOS updates. Long story short.. When the iPhone 4 came out I was one of the few to get it the first day. It was a pretty good change at the time coming from the 3G. It took Apple two years to come out with the iPhone 5. I was waiting for the world wide conference to see if it will finally bring a change to the table. After seeing that it still looks like the iPhone 4 and will not surpass a big difference in performance like the iPhone 4S. I made the jump to Android over this past weekend. I knew I was because I had my doubts about Apple just trying to make more money. The reason I knew was making the change was because a few months back when the Samsung Galaxy S2 was at its peak I was a proud owner of one for about 3 months. While having a iPhone 4 and a Android device I quickly began to tell the difference in how advance Android phones were about. The screen size, the none laggyness, the performance was amazing compared to any iPhone. My girl now flows with the iPhone 4S. And to tell you the truth, yes its responsive but it still lacks in the department of performance. For me it lacks in two major factors! Free to customization and screen size. Plus the fact of having such a noob "user friendly" OS system is crap. For crying out loud, even my grandma is rocking an iPhone. It sucks that Apple is changing the way we communicate because of their well established campaign! (For the older crowd to get in the action too) lol... So yea my story simply is justifying that being a long term 4+ years user of a iPhone product. I'm here to say I'm done from their marketing scheme. Everybody has problems with Apps and their phones. But if you know how to run them correctly and are tech like you will not have a issue with any software or build. But what Apple is bringing to the table with these iPhones upgrades does not compare to what HTC EVO or any Android device done so far and will continue to do so. I suggest to see it for your self. But I am also saying, you will not be in for surprise. Except for two important updates they made to Two Apps. (youtube & facebook) Like I said, there is a reason why these two main apps on Android runs like shyt and on the iPhone they run great ever since like a month ago. (its all a scam, Apple are Gangsters with Suites On) Apple paid a big lump to Facebook & YouTube to recreate/renew their Application faster. For the purpose of being First in line. Mark Zuckerberg gave him self away by announcing on Facebook "how great the new update on the iPhone is recreated by his team" Trust me it should not take Android a million years to create "renew" these two Apps. But for some reason they are. Main reason should be: THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT. That being said, I think the main two Apps you will enjoy more on the iPhone will be Facebook, & YouTube. Dam I wrote a lot..Or should I say, Ranting.
So in conclusion:
You have a look of a man who excepts what he sees, because he's excepting to wake up. Ironically this is not far from the truth. Let me tell you why you are here. You are here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire time with Android. That there is something wrong with the world of smart phones. You don't know what it is but its there like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has broughten you to me.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
(Joe answers): The iPhone....
(Me): Do you want to know what it is?
(Joe nods curiously)
The iPhone is everywhere, it is all around us. Even now in this very Thread! You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television, you can feel it when you go to work. When you go to Church! When you pay your taxes....It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to Blind you from the truth.
(Joe replys) What truth?
That you are a slave Joe. Like everyone else you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell, taste or touch. A prison for your mind!
Unfortunatly no one can't be told what the iPhone is. You have to see it for your self. (places pills on table)
This is your last chance Joe. After this there is no turning back. You TAKE THE BLUE PILL THE STORY ENDS, YOU WAKE UP IN YOUR BED AND CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR HTC EVO. You take the RED pill, you stay in wonder land AND I show you HOW DEEP THE RABBIT HOLE GOES.
(moments passes, with spooky music playing in the background)
Remember, all I'm offering is the Truth. Nothing more.
Sent from my EVO in The Matrix!
There is nothing wrong with your iPhone. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your iPhone. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits
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LoL...
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I believe he took the blue pill.
sent from my Evo the awaken Eye. with your moms permission.!
joebarkho said:
I've had Android since the HTC hero on sprint, moved to the Evo Shift, got the nexus S, and now the new evo.
This phone is incredible, but I'm just bored as hell. Does anyone else get really bored with their phone?
I'm thinking of selling this and buying an iPhone, only because it finally somewhat caught up to android and it's just different.
How much do you think I should sell this phone for? Also, if I did want an android after the iphone, the iPhone has amazing resale value and thats just attractive as well.
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I'm the same way. As I write this I have 2 original evo's, a Thunderbolt, a Fascinate, 2 MiFi's, a Nexus 7 and the new iPad sitting around me. I do some phone flashing so thats why I have a couple of the phones but they are all mine...oh yea and my EVO LTE. I get bored easily too. I'm getting an iPhone 4 Friday because I'm getting a great deal on it and just want something else to play with. I'm thinking about getting a 5 if I can do a little trading for one. I ported my number to Google Voice when they started offering it so I could switch carriers with easy. Bottom line...I'm a Tech junkie just like you. I need my next fix!!!!
U know, when apple was coming up they had that commercial during the superbowl where people were being brainwashed in q black and white theatre. Then "Apple Zeus" or who ever it was smashed thru the screen and made everything color. Revolt and Revolution was rampant of course.
It's funny how sides have changed. Apple is now the establishment trying to brainwash everyone. Android is the new Apple as far as ingenuity is concerned.
Matter of fact, android doesn't even need Apple. Phone manufacturer's compete well enough on android to spurn innovation.
i mean android did completely change initially before the g1 when the iphone came out, It was going to be a blackberry style phone.
Apple did a great job introducing something new in the world, but android constantly changes.
The first iphone looks like the 6th one.
the G1 looks nothing like the Gnex. Android changes so much and keeps getting better and more unique with time.

Just switched to Android and GNII

I have been on iOS since the 3G was released. On Thursday I got the GNII and today I flashed Bean's ROM. Awesome!!! holy crap Batman, this is a geek's wet dream right here.
Bill
Welcome to the party!
Lol, you'll never go back.....
Congratulations on your purchase (and new found freedom!) -- I'm sure you'll enjoy your Note II.
Another convert! Awesome! :highfive:
My sister has the 16GB iPhone 4S and now she hates the iPhone lol She takes a ton of photos and eventually ran out of storage. Android Does what iPhone can't.
Android FTW!
My neighbors are an older couple. They're fairly tech saavy for their age but they're die hard Apple fans....Macs, iPods, iPhones, iPads, the works. I always give them hell and show off my new Android. Last week I showed them my GN2 and the wife actually said "that will be my next phone". She's got a few more months until her contact expires but she's fed up with little screens. Once I get her over, I'll see what I can do about replacing some other iCrap.
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Welcome, you'll never want to go back to a 4inch phone again.
Eh I can see why people hate iOS products but I really don't. I have an iPad and a Macbook Pro and I love them both. I also loved my iPhone 4 and 4S. I like iOS and I like how the iPhone 5 looks but I prefer Android. I eventually get bored with iOS and need a bigger screen so I go back to android. iOS is like that temptation you go out n seek for a few months but then always come back home to good old reliable n loyal Android
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xXJay_RXx said:
Eh I can see why people hate iOS products but I really don't. I have an iPad and a Macbook Pro and I love them both. I also loved my iPhone 4 and 4S. I like iOS and I like how the iPhone 5 looks but I prefer Android. I eventually get bored with iOS and need a bigger screen so I go back to android. iOS is like that temptation you go out n seek for a few months but then always come back home to good old reliable n loyal Android
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The only iDevice I do like is the iPad. It was simply just done right. Simple and fun with a great app ecosystem, and Web browsing. That's all I really care about for a tablet (though I have the N7 and getting the N10).
The iPhone simply is too small and doesn't have enough of what I want/need. And Mac's, if you're coming from Windows, you have to find all these different work around to do stuff that's easy on Windows. Especially when it comes to rooting all my Android stuff.
Anyways, congrats on the upgrade and welcome to the family!
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My neighbors are an older couple. They're fairly tech saavy for their age but they're die hard Apple fans....Macs, iPods, iPhones, iPads, the works. I always give them hell and show off my new Android. Last week I showed them my GN2 and the wife actually said "that will be my next phone". She's got a few more months until her contact expires but she's fed up with little screens. Once I get her over, I'll see what I can do about replacing some other iCrap.
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I know what ya mean. My mom is 62 and she has the iPad 3, iPod mini 4th gen, iPad mini and a Mac Mini (she's a bit of an apple nut). I've gone through a ton of phones (as you know Josh) over the past year and every Android phone I've had she's been blown away BUT... with the Note 2 she is floored and loves the size and s pen. I've bought her android devices in the past to try and get her to convert. Problem is I was trying to early. I got her the HTC Evo View (honeycomb) and the 5" galaxy tab (gingerbread).... so you can imagine how those experiences were for her. To this day she says android is to confusing and buggy. I think her opinion has changed playing with my note.
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Congrats! The Note II is simply awesome, I love mine!
I still love OS X for my desktop OS though. I feel like it is the reverse of the phone world. Windows is like the iPhone (everyone just gets it without thinking) and OS X was for people who wanted a bit more, and its slowly catching up to Windows.
joshw0000 said:
My neighbors are an older couple. They're fairly tech saavy for their age but they're die hard Apple fans....Macs, iPods, iPhones, iPads, the works. I always give them hell and show off my new Android. Last week I showed them my GN2 and the wife actually said "that will be my next phone". She's got a few more months until her contact expires but she's fed up with little screens. Once I get her over, I'll see what I can do about replacing some other iCrap.
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Exactly. Part of the reason for my switch was bordom. I knew everything about iOS. No challenge. The geek factor was gone. I had dreams of flashing ROM's
I feel the fact I appreciate Android now makes me very "well rounded". iOS and Android have their places. My mom, she has an iPhone and iPad. She jumped right in, figured the basics out, and is very happy. I can't imagine handing her my GNII and having her manage it.
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Eh I can see why people hate iOS products but I really don't. I have an iPad and a Macbook Pro and I love them both. I also loved my iPhone 4 and 4S. I like iOS and I like how the iPhone 5 looks but I prefer Android. I eventually get bored with iOS and need a bigger screen so I go back to android. iOS is like that temptation you go out n seek for a few months but then always come back home to good old reliable n loyal Android
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iOS and Android have their places. My mom, she has an iPhone and iPad. She jumped right in, figured the basics out, and is very happy. I can't imagine handing her my GNII and having her manage it.
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Also just switched from years and years with iOS. For me the great irony was that when we met my technologically-challenged wife had an Android phone and I had an iPhone 4...now she has a 4S and I just got the Note 2. Her almost daily frustration with her old phone (Droid of some sort) made the choice easy when her upgrade time came...my tinkering nature combined with the size and smoothness of the N2 made my choice easy. She just shakes her head when I start yammering on about having just rooted it, or how I'm customizing the latest launcher I'm playing with...but we're both much happier.
IOS most definitely has its place.
One of my best friends for years is a major factory rep for a bunch of electronic lines and is tech savvy.
He lives in a 3 million dollar house on CapeCod and has an awful lot more money than I do......
This guy could have any phone/OS etc that he wants for free but he uses an iphone. I asked him why once and he is one of those guys who says "i just want it to work, I could care less about any customization etc."
I looked at his iphone and he never even bothered to change the wallpaper and he absolutely loves the thing.
Oh ya, head shaking and blank stares when I start talkign about the excitement of the unlock process and loading a new rom. I love it.
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Also just switched from years and years with iOS. For me the great irony was that when we met my technologically-challenged wife had an Android phone and I had an iPhone 4...now she has a 4S and I just got the Note 2. Her almost daily frustration with her old phone (Droid of some sort) made the choice easy when her upgrade time came...my tinkering nature combined with the size and smoothness of the N2 made my choice easy. She just shakes her head when I start yammering on about having just rooted it, or how I'm customizing the latest launcher I'm playing with...but we're both much happier.
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Exactly. It's hard to touch iOS from a "just pick it up and start using it" standpoint. I get a bit annoyed when people are so one sided they trash talk either Android or iOS. We are very fortunate to have 2 excellent choices (ok, 3 if you count Win8, which isn't too bad either)
But for me Android didn't become a player until ICS/JB. I started getting really curious in June of last year, then when I watched the Google IO keynote I was like 'Damn, project butter rocks".
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IOS most definitely has its place.
One of my best friends for years is a major factory rep for a bunch of electronic lines and is tech savvy.
He lives in a 3 million dollar house on CapeCod and has an awful lot more money than I do......
This guy could have any phone/OS etc that he wants for free but he uses an iphone. I asked him why once and he is one of those guys who says "i just want it to work, I could care less about any customization etc."
I looked at his iphone and he never even bothered to change the wallpaper and he absolutely loves the thing.
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Seems like people start with one or the other and stay with it. They really only change to the other if:
Android to IOS
- Friend got an iPhone
- My really old phone is still on GB
- My really old phone is buggy and/slow
- I can't figure this thing out
IOS to Android
- I'm bored. Why can't I customize
- No Flash Player??? WTF
- When will I get JB for IOS 6?
- Apple Maps don't know where I am (it's really not that bad lol)
- I want NFC, big screens, expandable memory, changeable battery, ect!!!
- That's neat, can I flash Roms on my iPhone?
- This is getting expensive
- Wait, I can get free apps without jailbreaking??
There's probably more for each list lol.
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Seems like people start with one or the other and stay with it. They really only change to the other if:
Well, there are a million different reasons. So... this was dumb.
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Exactly. It's hard to touch iOS from a "just pick it up and start using it" standpoint. I get a bit annoyed when people are so one sided they trash talk either Android or iOS. ".
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So do I.
I coach my 12 year daughters soccer team and one of the Moms from the team was talking about upgrading her old droid phone (I'm not even sure which one she had) to an iphone. She told me her phone was very slow/laggy and buggy and she just wanted something simple that worked.
I had a spare ROMed and tweaked Rezound that I was not using and I offered it to her for free. She turned me down flat saying "I never want to see another android phone at this point" and two weeks ago she used an upgrade to buy an iphone 5.
I was talking to her last night and asked how she liked her new phone. She said "this is what I should have bought in the first place"

iOS 7

Since this is general, discuss.
I noticed a lot of things that are very similar to what android had 6+ months ago. Sbeam or their new "airdrop" being one of them. And I'm pretty sure their animated weather was taken from Sense.
Either way. Good refresh. iOS7=ICS/jellybean.
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Wow, I didn't even know it was out. Dammit, I just updated my iPad which is a pita on a jail broken device.
Anyway, I'm not really a huge fan of iOS, in fact I kind of hate it. But the pictures look really nice. I definitely am seeing the android references. Particularly some sense 5 influence.
But yeah the camera looks just like the jb camera, multitasking is obviously android inspired, so is the keyboard, "control center," the new safari is also a direct rip off of chrome, etc.
Still no gesture typing.
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Almost every single "new" feature in iOS 7, Android has had for a while. Also they managed to make an uglier UI than Touchwiz, bravo Apple.
I need to watch some videos on it but judging by the stills I've seen I'm not impressed. I despise iphones and can't really stand my fiances ipad 2. It just feels clunky next to my nexus 7 and all the various android phones I've had. I might enjoy an iPhone if they'd make them wider.
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I like the looks. I can't lie apple makes beauty. But it's simple and dumbed down. I can't stand owning one and all features are stolen
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Feature by feature comparison http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/10/ios7-vs-android-a-quick-comparison-after-the-wwdc-keynote/
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I have only looked at some of the pictures that have been posted on facebook, but thus far most of it looks like stuff I had on my RAZR a year and a half ago.
Looks interesting. Not an iFan at all, but like was posted above; Apple does make a pretty, albeit feature-lacking interface, and it does it well for the masses who don't want to be burdened down with silly things like choice. I work as a sysadmin/support desk person and have to support a lot of BYOD stuff, so I picked up an iPhone 4 for a ridiculously low price (guy wanted a 750gb data drive and so I traded straight up the other day.) Will be interested to see if iOS7 will be supported on the iPhone 4.
As much as I love my newly S-OFFed DNA, the screen on the iPhone is much more crisp and well-defined. Wish HTC would have made a slightly better display, but i can say that it's nice to have 1080 support!
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Looks interesting. Not an iFan at all, but like was posted above; Apple does make a pretty, albeit feature-lacking interface, and it does it well for the masses who don't want to be burdened down with silly things like choice. I work as a sysadmin/support desk person and have to support a lot of BYOD stuff, so I picked up an iPhone 4 for a ridiculously low price (guy wanted a 750gb data drive and so I traded straight up the other day.) Will be interested to see if iOS7 will be supported on the iPhone 4.
As much as I love my newly S-OFFed DNA, the screen on the iPhone is much more crisp and well-defined. Wish HTC would have made a slightly better display, but i can say that it's nice to have 1080 support!
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Actually the dna screen is rated and tested higher than any idevice. And real life I've observed that to hold true.. Oh and your in luck, apple will support iphone 4 tell me how you lije it
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Actually the dna screen is rated and tested higher than any idevice. And real life I've observed that to hold true.. Oh and your in luck, apple will support iphone 4 tell me how you lije it
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I ended up with a couple iPhone 4s also, neither screen comes close to the DNA. I even prefer my gnex screen over them. Oddly they don't even match each other, I'm thinking one was a replacement at some point, its a little cooler then the other iPhone is. There's an app I use to watch movies and its really crappy on the iPhone screen, blacks blur together, brightness and contrast is lackluster, resolution isn't that great. To the point I use airpin to watch them on...my DNA or gnex.
Either we have very different tastes in screens, I have two crappy screens, or I'm spoiled by android screens, the DNA in particular.
It'll be fun to see how iOS 7 plays out, though I won't do it until at least a tether jailbreak.
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From what i've seen on videos of iOS 7 , it's a win. I've been knocking the iphone/ipad since i jumped to Android for the Galaxy Fascinate. This update will resolve the main problem areas i've seen.
1) Crappy notifications, that can't be accessed from the lock screen. - FIXED.
2) powertools or some way to quickly get access to common settings. - FIXED.
3) Task manager that shows pics (like Android or WebOS) - FIXED.
4) Back button or swipe back(Windows) - FIXED.
5) Widgets - NO
...
There is still a long way to go for iOS, but this is a big step in the right direction;
It finally has android beam!!!!!
Its a major update for the people who use amd like it. My brother has a iphone4 and seems to like it.........I cant stand them.
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Anyone see the new Mac pro? They didn't listen to the pro users at all. The specs are nice but there's no expandability... No pro tools HD cards, no cuda, no multiple hard drives, etc unless you want to plug in a bunch of different adapters and stuff to the thunderbolt ports. I guess I'll be sticking with hackintoshes for a while... On the other hand, osx 10.9 actually has some useful features, without adding any useless features.
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They patented the NFC transfers which android has had forever.
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They patented the NFC transfers which android has had forever.
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Yeah I think the reason they were able to patent it is because i think it still transfers over WiFi, even though NFC initiates it. Still though, nothing new there... Wireless file transfers are old news. Is there even a current Apple device with NFC?
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Yeah I think the reason they were able to patent it is because i think it still transfers over WiFi, even though NFC initiates it. Still though, nothing new there... Wireless file transfers are old news. Is there even a current Apple device with NFC?
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Not without an attachment.
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Yeah, I think it might be perception. I don't know how to describe it - side by side, the iPhone's display seems to have deeper blacks, and seems to have a sharper contrast. I agree the overall the DNA is a much better screen, but there's something that has a vaguely superior look to the iPhone's screen. Could just be the carefully designed graphics engineered by Apple to give the impression of a display better than it actually is, for all I know.
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Yeah, I think it might be perception. I don't know how to describe it - side by side, the iPhone's display seems to have deeper blacks, and seems to have a sharper contrast. I agree the overall the DNA is a much better screen, but there's something that has a vaguely superior look to the iPhone's screen. Could just be the carefully designed graphics engineered by Apple to give the impression of a display better than it actually is, for all I know.
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I don't know. It really is a personal issue. I don't like smaller screens to begin with but even back when it first came out the contrast seemed way out of whack for me and looked washed out to a point. Then again though color wise I am also in the minority that dislikes the super amoleds due to over saturation. Although the HTC Thunderbolt had its flaws I liked its screen for the time.
There is no doubt that the iPhone screen is nice. I love the way my DNA screen is but the iPhone screen is good too, just too small for my liking.
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I don't know. It really is a personal issue. I don't like smaller screens to begin with but even back when it first came out the contrast seemed way out of whack for me and looked washed out to a point. Then again though color wise I am also in the minority that dislikes the super amoleds due to over saturation. Although the HTC Thunderbolt had its flaws I liked its screen for the time.
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Yeah, I get that. I was always wowed by the Super AMOLEDs for exactly the reason that you don't like them, but I suppose if you're going for true color precision, Super AMOLED is probably not a very accurate means of display. Either way, no complaints here about my DNA's screen - I love it, just noticed a big difference between the two when I picked up that iPhone 4, and it kind of surprised me.
Dri94 - Cool. Looking forward to giving it a test drive when it becomes available.
Pio, I'll be looking forward to the untethered jailbreak as well. From what I understand, it very well could be pretty soon after iOS 7 is released, as long as at least one of the many recent exploits the devs have been hoarding will be applicable. I'd be really surprised if iOS7 turns out being a total rewrite. Keeping fingers crossed that they will still be building upon at least some of the iOS 6 framework.

I moved to iOS, and these are the things I miss about Android. (Namely the Nexus6P)

I had the Nexus 6P, but as I take a lot of video, the lack of OIS really was a killer for me, so I made the jump to iOS to see which one I prefer. I'm still a baby iOS user, but I do feel like it's superior, but there are a few things I miss from Android (a.k.a. Nexus 6P).
https://www.the-newshub.com/lifestyle/moving-to-ios-6-things-i-miss-about-android
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I had the Nexus 6P, but as I take a lot of video, the lack of OIS really was a killer for me, so I made the jump to iOS to see which one I prefer. I'm still a baby iOS user, but I do feel like it's superior, but there are a few things I miss from Android (a.k.a. Nexus 6P).
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Can't you just tell us here instead of sending us somewhere else?
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Can't you just tell us here instead of sending us somewhere else?
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As a freelance writer with absolutely NO income, I rely on achieving a certain amount views on my posts to get paid. I wouldn't do it if I didn't have to hit a certain number, but unfortunately that's how it works. I hate posting links to things like this, trust me I do, but it's the situation I'm in. Hopefully the community forgives me.
Definitely sounds like click bait.
nice little read
short and not too bad
Agreed. Good & concise read. I don't fault the OP for needing to make a living. He appears to be a good writer!
at least the dude is not out there spamming the internet like SoFlo
Keep it up dude
Good read, for me it's strictly a no-brainer due to the fact that I'm entrenched in the Google ecosystem and services.
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The other thing you missed imo is drag and drop, iTunes is the single biggest reason i don't own an iPhone
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Sounds like a good plan! The 6P is a tough competitor!!
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Agreed. Good & concise read. I don't fault the OP for needing to make a living. He appears to be a good writer!
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Thank you for being understanding and the compliment! Currently tossing up whether I should do journalism in college
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Good read, for me it's strictly a no-brainer due to the fact that I'm entrenched in the Google ecosystem and services.
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That's my situation now. I didn't think I relied too heavily on Google, but boy do I. Now I find myself looking for workarounds, such as for the Google Photos predicament.
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The other thing you missed imo is drag and drop, iTunes is the single biggest reason i don't own an iPhone
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I only use iTunes to back up my iPhone. I stream all my music via Google Play Music because I have so many albums uploaded to it.
Not bad and the "click-bait" is easily forgiven. I'm curious how you feel the sound of the music is between the two. Granted, idk if you used V4A on your 6P at all, but I'm curious which is better. How do you find the AMOLED panel vs the LCD? Which device do you find more fluid?
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Not bad and the "click-bait" is easily forgiven. I'm curious how you feel the sound of the music is between the two. Granted, idk if you used V4A on your 6P at all, but I'm curious which is better. How do you find the AMOLED panel vs the LCD? Which device do you find more fluid?
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I didn't use V4A on the 6P, so it should be unsurprising that the sound on the iPhone is imo much better. (Headphones only, 6P speakers blow the 6s+ away).
Both devices are exceptionally fluid, and I would have trouble discerning a winner in a smoothness test, but I'm not disappointed with either in this regard. Maybe the strangest thing about the iPhone is how Twitter seems to take longer than all other apps to load, but other than that I might even put the iPhone a little ahead, but that's probably due to the transitions.
The AMOLED panel was beautiful, and the resolution was definitely better, but, as an amateur photographer, I prefer the LCD for it's colour accuracy. I'm aware I can turn on sRGB on the 6P to get the same effect, so in that regard I'd have to give the display award to the 6P, but straight out of the box; iPhone.
I went from an iPhone 6S+ to the 6p. IMO, your list of negatives about iOS is way too short! I'd add:
-Can't turn off auto arrange icons
-No app drawer. So if the app is installed, it's on one of your home screens.
-Difficult to make a song your ringtone.
-Will not port all songs from old Android phone. Itunes must think I don't own them all. Have to go through a process to convert them.
-App store sucks compared to Play Store. No ability to sort by feedback, very hard to find useful information. Total disaster organizationally. And most decent apps are not free.
-Have to jailbreak it just to theme it! And Jailbreak had not been achieved on the release I was on.
-Apple maps suck, and so does the current gen Google maps for iphones, since it won't locally store things like "home" and recent searches.
-Notification bar does not show temp.
-Stock keyboard sucks (no swiping) and Apple won't let 3rd party app makers access the speech to text microphone button for their better keyboards. So you have to switch back and forth if you want to use voice to text.
-Where are my home screen Widgets?
-Can't change things on a system level, like the keyboard or messaging. You can change it for some apps, but sometimes the stock one will pop up instead.
Opera mini browser will not allow typing input from the Swiftkey keyboard. Had to switch back to the horrid stock keyboard.
All these little wrinkles just make it feel less refined than a newer Android. Other stuff gives that feel, too. Like most settings for most apps are in the Settings area. But some apps have settings only in the app, some have some settings in both places. And the lack of a back button makes the interface less efficient since not every screen you progress to has a back link. Makes it a bit confusing.
Amazing. After reading it, already thought you were a "professional" (NOT exaggerating)! Best of luck in choosing a career. Continue to do such quality work, and you'll succeed in whatever path you choose.
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Thank you for being understanding and the compliment! Currently tossing up whether I should do journalism in college
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Amazing. After reading it, already thought you were a "professional" (NOT exaggerating)! Best of luck in choosing a career. Continue to do such quality work, and you'll succeed in whatever path you choose.
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Thanks so much man! That means a lot!
i like the 6p, i came from a iphone 6s and it was buttery smooth and outstanding battery but no jailbreak killed it for me. the 6p is a bit too large for me and for a high end it does stutter quite a bit. debating selling it.
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i like the 6p, i came from a iphone 6s and it was buttery smooth and outstanding battery but no jailbreak killed it for me. the 6p is a bit too large for me and for a high end it does stutter quite a bit. debating selling it.
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The jailbreak will be released soon for the next iOS, and I'll almost definitely be jailbreaking it.

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