Went to store earlier for a last minute pre-order and they has stock in, so I've now got a black one!
It's lovely - excellent screen (nicer than my G4), really solid build and first impressions are fast. Very excited to get to know it over the next few days!
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Went to store earlier for a last minute pre-order and they has stock in, so I've now got a black one!
It's lovely - excellent screen (nicer than my G4), really solid build and first impressions are fast. Very excited to get to know it over the next few days!
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What about camera . Quality and low light pic.
Any problem with lines
Cuchulainn said:
Went to store earlier for a last minute pre-order and they has stock in, so I've now got a black one!
It's lovely - excellent screen (nicer than my G4), really solid build and first impressions are fast. Very excited to get to know it over the next few days!
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Please share your battery experience
I'll share battery info but am off work the next few days so it won't be representative.
Camera seems good. Not tried low light. Definitely not going to take a picture of a grid because snaps so far look good and if I calibrate it and then see some distortion on the grid it'll annoy me unnecessarily. If I really need pictures of objects with minimal distortion then no camera phone is suitable so in my mind no point looking for flaws in a phone that's giving me a great first impression.
Are you on T-Mobile USA, if so, does VoLTE work on your phone?
I'm in the UK. Just got the new firmware update too. Still good impression after using it today.
Got mine as well, went for the Blue version. Had the XZ and the XZ1 is a good improvement, much quicker, a bit lighter and nicer overall. Also got the XZ Premium which I find a bit unwieldy in comparison. I'd been looking forward to the XZ1 coming out and am not disappointed. I loved the XZ so I knew in advance I'd really like the XZ1.
Decent battery - not a normal day's use. But about 3 hours screen on time and still 53% left.
Screen auto dim is a bit annoying. It doesn't change as smoothly as the g4 but seems to stutter. This a Sony thing?
anyone else with a blue one? The paint/finish on the back of mine looks like it a bit thin...there's a wispy/straggly bit all the way down the middle which is visible when tilted and it's annoying me
I'm on the black one, they only had that and silver in stock and I didn't like the look of the silver from the front. Had planned on getting a blue if they had one though!
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... Screen auto dim is a bit annoying. It doesn't change as smoothly as the g4 but seems to stutter. This a Sony thing?
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'The auto backlight mode is jittery, though. It flickers up and down rather than doing so smoothly. I’ve found it a bit distracting when reading an article on the train. Go through a tunnel and the Xperia XZ1 looks like it’s having a breakdown. Let’s hope Sony fixes this with an update.'
http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/sony-xperia-xz1
Thanks for the link on the review. If it's being commented on in reviews then hopefully Sony will sort out the screen.
Using it today, the phone is definitely responsive. And no stuttering over Bluetooth. That was driving me mad on the g4
How's the camera guys? I'm thinking of buying it but not sure because of the distortion issue.
Blue one for me also coming from the green Z5 I love this one.! Two things I notice though 'where are the small apps and why is the nfc icon in the status bar!'
So I just received my Sony XZ1 compact, and I was hoping someone could help me with these three questions:
- how can I check my lockscreen (notifications) when using the fingerprint sensor? (It immediately unlocks...)
- two triangles appear left of the WiFi icon (in the statusbar) when data is being transferred, shifting the position of the vibrate icon; is there any way to prevent this? (It's rather distracting)
- vibration is really noisy, can others with an XZ1 compact confirm?
Thanks!
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So I just received my Sony XZ1 compact, and I was hoping someone could help me with these three questions:
- how can I check my lockscreen (notifications) when using the fingerprint sensor? (It immediately unlocks...)
- two triangles appear left of the WiFi icon (in the statusbar) when data is being transferred, shifting the position of the vibrate icon; is there any way to prevent this? (It's rather distracting)
- vibration is really noisy, can others with an XZ1 compact confirm?
Thanks!
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Use a different finger or try to puss the button using the minimum of your finger just to see the lockscreen. I had the same problem and solve it like this
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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
kirbygonzalo said:
Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
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kirbygonzalo, thanks but even googling it I couldn't find anything about wire stripe or ribbon.
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I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
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sdk16420, thanks for sharing this, It is somehow a relief for me to know I'm not alone in this. Yet, I'll wait until next week to see if I can find more explanations, and then maybe I'll return it for a replace. It's especially bad for me, as I waited a lot to receive the silver one (a week or so), and I don't know if I can find another.
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It doesn't depend on Bravia Engine, unfortunately. It was also the first thing that came into my mind, tried it several times, even with deactivating and rebooting, but the effect is persistent.
Again, it's only visible on light backgrounds, especially white and large ones (browser, gmail, etc). If you read this, please check yours also find some time to post a reply with the result. I would be very grateful.
Thanks!
I have the blue model but i can barely see that pattern with a screen flashlight (on full white) and i don't find it annoying at all in daily use of the phone.
You can check the screen from a new phone in a shop, to see if it looks like yours ... or you have a eagle eye
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I think I can see what you're talking about on my Red Neo but only if I max the screen brightness and look really closesly (like practically inserting the Neo into my eye). 99.99% of the time I don't notice a thing.
I just followed your description and found the same with my neo, so I think it the LCD design. Not an issue to me indeed.
Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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When I put brightness on 100%, and hold my finger on the light sensor, I don't see the screen getting darker. What does annoy me is that you can't make the brightness less than about 30%. I use widgetsoid for brightness adjustment, and the screen will only become darker than 30% if I hold my finger on top of the sensor. That sucks. I I want to sacve energy, I have to hold my hand there, while using the phone.
I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I use it a lot outside, and its sunlight legibility isn't as good as SAMOLEDs or others, but that I knew from reviews before the buy. If it wasn't for the problem in this thread, I wouldn't be so harsh on it.
LE I se new posters here. Do you noticed the problem described in the first post? Does it bother you?
Hi everyone,
I got my nexus 9 last week from Best Buy. The serial number is HT4C, which means it has been manufactured in December of 2014.
I don't have like any problems with it so far, except the light bleed I think. I was not sure if this is too bad or this is normal and I can't get any Nexus 9 to have better LCD than this, so I decided to attach some pictures so maybe you guys can suggest either I should go and ask for a replacement or just deal with the current one...for comparison I have also put a pic I took in similar condition from my HTC One M8 screen...
Everything else is working fine..the volume button is working great and no problem with back cover...but also sometimes I feel when pressing the multi tasking button there is a delay to show the app, would anyone know how to fix this (is this even a problem?).
Thanks!
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Hi everyone,
I got my nexus 9 last week from Best Buy. The serial number is HT4C, which means it has been manufactured in December of 2014.
I don't have like any problems with it so far, except the light bleed I think. I was not sure if this is too bad or this is normal and I can't get any Nexus 9 to have better LCD than this, so I decided to attach some pictures so maybe you guys can suggest either I should go and ask for a replacement or just deal with the current one...for comparison I have also put a pic I took in similar condition from my HTC One M8 screen...
Everything else is working fine..the volume button is working great and no problem with back cover...but also sometimes I feel when pressing the multi tasking button there is a delay to show the app, would anyone know how to fix this (is this even a problem?).
Thanks!
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A slight delay every so often when hitting the recent app button shouldn't be any indication of a major issue. Unless you are having major lag, I wouldn't worry about it. It's really hard to judge how bad light bleed is in real world use from pics. My Nexus 9 does have some visible light bleed during boot up while the screen back light is unrestricted, but during use it is not noticeable at all. Even when watching letter boxed movies. I'm sure it would probably look much worse than it is if I took a pic of it during boot up. Honestly, if the only time you can see it is during boot and it isn't giving you issues during use, I wouldn't bother returning or exchanging. This device really has a beautiful display and, although I'm sure there are a few people with really bad screens, I think the issue is being over exaggerated.
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A slight delay every so often when hitting the recent app button shouldn't be any indication of a major issue. Unless you are having major lag, I wouldn't worry about it. It's really hard to judge how bad light bleed is in real world use from pics. My Nexus 9 does have some visible light bleed during boot up while the screen back light is unrestricted, but during use it is not noticeable at all. Even when watching letter boxed movies. I'm sure it would probably look much worse than it is if I took a pic of it during boot up. Honestly, if the only time you can see it is during boot and it isn't giving you issues during use, I wouldn't bother returning or exchanging. This device really has a beautiful display and, although I'm sure there are a few people with really bad screens, I think the issue is being over exaggerated.
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Thanks.
I agree, this is why I posted this here. However, the problem is there whenever there is something with a black screen, like when watching movies, I can't avoid looking at black stripes on the top and bottom and see the light bleed....which is kind of annoying.
But overall, the display is great, very warm colors and good contrast.
Also, regarding the delay..no I am not experiencing lags, but sometimes when i.e. I play the FiFa ultimate for 2hrs and then come out of the game it takes 1 second or so to home screen get loaded.
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Thanks.
I agree, this is why I posted this here. However, the problem is there whenever there is something with a black screen, like when watching movies, I can't avoid looking at black stripes on the top and bottom and see the light bleed....which is kind of annoying.
But overall, the display is great, very warm colors and good contrast.
Also, regarding the delay..no I am not experiencing lags, but sometimes when i.e. I play the FiFa ultimate for 2hrs and then come out of the game it takes 1 second or so to home screen get loaded.
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I watch a lot of Netflix, etc in bed with the lights off when the wife is sleeping, so it would probably drive me a little crazy if the lightbleed was very noticeable under those conditions.
Taking a second to load the homescreen after two hours of gaming isn't anything to worry about. Some apps will do that, some won't from my experience.
I have one of the first Nexus 9's, a white 32gb. I'm very happy with the screen and have had no performance issues other than what we've come to expect from Android. The only (non)issue with mine si a slightly flush volume up button on the volume rocker. But it still clicks nicely and I've never considered returning mine.
I was playing with two demos at the local best buy the other day and the buttons on the white demo they had were horrible! But the Black demo had the most raised buttons I've ever seen. They were amazing, a made a very firm "click" when pressing them. But, when I went into the settings and started scrolling, the screen started to do this weird purple flickering thing, so what can you do?
As long as you are happy with yours, that's all that really matters.
A couple weeks ago i bought 2 nexus 9's from 2 different best buys. both were December builds. One looked like yours when it booted; it looked really bad IMO. My other one wasnt nearly as bad, there was some bleed in a few spots, mostly upper right, but there was no significant color shift. i returned the bad one. so, you can do better, but its all luck of the draw. depends if it's worth your effort and time and how noticeable it is in normal usage.
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A couple weeks ago i bought 2 nexus 9's from 2 different best buys. both were December builds. One looked like yours when it booted; it looked really bad IMO. My other one wasnt nearly as bad, there was some bleed in a few spots, mostly upper right, but there was no significant color shift. i returned the bad one. so, you can do better, but its all luck of the draw. depends if it's worth your effort and time and how noticeable it is in normal usage.
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During the past two days, after my work, I went to Best Buy store that I got my Nexus 9 from...the first day I opened 3 Nexus 9s all with HT4C serial numbers and 2 of them had awful light bleeds and the third one had bad volume buttons...I ended up with bringing the third one to see if I can deal with the buttons. However,the buttons were so bad and I also saw that this one also has the same color shift but small light bleeds...
Today I went back to BestBuy and asked them to change it again. They give me another HT4C and I checked it over there, the built quality and volume buttons are great and small light bleed...but when I got home I saw that this one still has the color shift problem...
I think all of the high res LCD panels have this problem, because I put my N9 beside my friends iPad mini 2 and surprisingly saw that the iPad has also exactly the same color shift on black screen in Max brightness...So, I think I should deal with it....
BTW, I also called google and they said some light bleed and color shift is normal and probably any replacement device I get is going to have these issues (they didn't call it a issue though and just said ..are going to be like that).
So my question is, could you please take a photo from you N9 in a black screen in Max brightness to I see how it looks?
Thanks.
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During the past two days, after my work, I went to Best Buy store that I got my Nexus 9 from...the first day I opened 3 Nexus 9s all with HT4C serial numbers and 2 of them had awful light bleeds and the third one had bad volume buttons...I ended up with bringing the third one to see if I can deal with the buttons. However,the buttons were so bad and I also saw that this one also has the same color shift but small light bleeds...
Today I went back to BestBuy and asked them to change it again. They give me another HT4C and I checked it over there, the built quality and volume buttons are great and small light bleed...but when I got home I saw that this one still has the color shift problem...
I think all of the high res LCD panels have this problem, because I put my N9 beside my friends iPad mini 2 and surprisingly saw that the iPad has also exactly the same color shift on black screen in Max brightness...So, I think I should deal with it....
BTW, I also called google and they said some light bleed and color shift is normal and probably any replacement device I get is going to have these issues (they didn't call it a issue though and just said ..are going to be like that).
So my question is, could you please take a photo from you N9 in a black screen in Max brightness to I see how it looks?
Thanks.
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You're fretting over nothing. No one uses their device with a black screen with max brightness. Besides, it's an lcd screen, it will never be jet black in that condition.
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Here it is.
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Here it is. View attachment 3241664
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Thanks.
OK, here is how my story ended yesterday ?, during the past days I swiped 7 nexus 9 tablets from 2 different Best Buy stores! Sounds crazy? But all of them had problems...three of them as I posted here had severe LCD light bleed, the other one had volume bottun problem and two of them had soft back cover problem (!), that was so funny even the best buy costumer service couldn't believe the back panel could be like that when we opened the box!...anyways...finally O got one yesterday (the last one in their store, lol) and thank to god, it has min light bleed...volume buttons are OK and the back cover as far as I checked is fine...some part of the right top of it seem to be soft again but its negligible and since I want to put it in a case I will never notice that...fare enough I think for the money I paid and the fact that got sth that at least looks to be not full of faults...
Here is a photo from its screen, in max brightness...thanks again.
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You're fretting over nothing. No one uses their device with a black screen with max brightness. Besides, it's an lcd screen, it will never be jet black in that condition.
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I know and agree, but when sth has problem and you know that it should not be like that, then I think it is not fretting over nothing...I love nexus..and this is why I swiped 7 N9s to get one without these problems...thanks
When I first got my Nexus 9, I looked very carefully for the light bleeding as I heard it was really common on these devices. And to be quite fair, mine had a lot when you ramp up to max screens brightness (especially on the bottom left corner). But after several months of use, I hardly see it now as it's due to myself not always nitpicking at it. You will eventually grow accustomed to it so in the end, it'll definitely fade into the background of your device
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When I first got my Nexus 9, I looked very carefully for the light bleeding as I heard it was really common on these devices. And to be quite fair, mine had a lot when you ramp up to max screens brightness (especially on the bottom left corner). But after several months of use, I hardly see it now as it's due to myself not always nitpicking at it. You will eventually grow accustomed to it so in the end, it'll definitely fade into the background of your device
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The first one I got from Amazon, a early build white 16gb had really bad bleed and the buttons were flush. They sent a replacement with a later build date and it has MUCH less bleed and great buttons. I was fortunate I assume.
I have one of the same models you have I bought from best buy yesterday. I'm really happy with mine. I have no perceivable bleed and the build quality is excellent. The back of the device has no flex. Its much better than the floor model in the store for sure.
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I love my Xperia Z4 Tablet. However the backlight is noticeably dim on the bottom (when in the default landscape position) or the left hand side when in portrait (volume/power button facing up). It is most noticeable in portrait mode when there is a white background (Kindle, Chrome and Instagram most notably). I am willing to live with this issue, but was wondering if anyone else is seeing any issues?
For the price I paid, it would be nice to have uniform backlighting. But I am worried it could be worse on another unit. Expansys has offered me an exchange or refund but there is a delay in availability now that the first lot has sold out.
No problems with mine
I am sending mine back for an exchange. I miss it already
Now I noticed that too. The difference is really small, but it's there.
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Now I noticed that too. The difference is really small, but it's there.
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Hopefully my replacement isn't any worse than the one I just sent back. It was as bad as I could handle.
Interesting, the same with my tablet - seems to be a general problem
I don't know if I should return and change the tablet...
can you make a picture for us? I dont know what you mean? my backlight is perfect - no bleeding and no clouding )
I'm sorry, but it was not possible to make a picture where you can see this.
However I can only see it on white backgrounds - the first centimeter is slightly grayish...
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I'm sorry, but it was not possible to make a picture where you can see this.
However I can only see it on white backgrounds - the first centimeter is slightly grayish...
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It is not a hardware problem. I see the band only when the bottom menu appears. It looks like the transperancy issue with that menu layer.
Mine looks fine, just hope it is not something my eyes just don't notice, but others do.
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It is not a hardware problem. I see the band only when the bottom menu appears. It looks like the transperancy issue with that menu layer.
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No, I think it is a hardware problem - if I turn the tablet from landscape to portrait mode, white backgrounds are gray on the left. Btw for me it's only visible in portrait mode - in landscape mode the menu bar on the bottom is usually black or transparent...
It is definitely a hardware problem and it sounds like the backlight is weaker on several units on the bottom (when in landscape) or left hand side (when in portrait with power button facing up). It is a shame as it is very distracting to read on anything that doesn't have a dark or black background in portrait. Still waiting for my replacement unit As long as the replacement isn't worse, I will likely live with it as I really enjoyed (and miss) the tablet.
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can you make a picture for us? I dont know what you mean? my backlight is perfect - no bleeding and no clouding )
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Try anything with an all white background. If you open Chrome with no web pages loaded and the new tab page up or Kindle with a white background and hold the tablet in portrait, you might see uneven backlighting on your left or right sides depending on the orientation.
Backlight direction is notable
Got my Z4 tablet yesterday. After reading some issues with the backlight I checked this at my device and can see there is a notable uniformity.
If you hold the device with power button upside, then one can see a thin bright line from the backlight LEDs on the left side, while the opposite screen edge is slightly darker.
It looks like the screen is only backlighted from one side. For the normal usage it is not really annoying, but it is there and you would see it, if you take attention for the issue.
Do other Z4 owners have the same effect?
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Got my Z4 tablet yesterday. After reading some issues with the backlight I checked this at my device and can see there is a notable uniformity.
If you hold the device with power button upside, then one can see a thin bright line from the backlight LEDs on the left side, while the opposite screen edge is slightly darker.
It looks like the screen is only backlighted from one side. For the normal usage it is not really annoying, but it is there and you would see it, if you take attention for the issue.
Do other Z4 owners have the same effect?
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That's how I saw my issue. Still waiting a replacement from my reseller.
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That's how I saw my issue. Still waiting a replacement from my reseller.
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I have the impression my Amazon Z4T packages was already a replacement from someone else. The box made used look, some scratches and one corner had a ditch.
It wasn't sealed in any way. The charge adapter cable looked out of its the small box. The screen protection layer made the impression it was reattached, a lot of air bubbles were included.
Can someone describe how he found the delivery when unboxing it?
Was it sealed?
I also consider a replacement, if the screen issue is not a general construction feature.
Oddly enough, I purchased mine from another supplier, and also felt the item had been handled if not used. USB cable was out of wrapping and screen protector had signs of being removed and re-applied. I received mine the day after they were available for sale. I am hoping my replacement looks like new and has minimal or no backlight uniformity issues.
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Oddly enough, I purchased mine from another supplier, and also felt the item had been handled if not used. USB cable was out of wrapping and screen protector had signs of being removed and re-applied. I received mine the day after they were available for sale. I am hoping my replacement looks like new and has minimal or no backlight uniformity issues.
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Hopefully you get it soon and can report here the condition of the replacement.
I have 14 days left to send it back to Amazon for free.
Please also describe how it was packaged.
Are there any seals or blister foil?
I can't believe Sony delivers an open package to retail stores.
Unboxing videos on Youtube don't show this clearly.
Thanks in advance.
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I have the impression my Amazon Z4T packages was already a replacement from someone else. The box made used look, some scratches and one corner had a ditch.
It wasn't sealed in any way. The charge adapter cable looked out of its the small box. The screen protection layer made the impression it was reattached, a lot of air bubbles were included.
Can someone describe how he found the delivery when unboxing it?
Was it sealed?
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For me:
Not sealed.
Box in perfect condition.
Screen protector had a few bubbles, but not that many.
It was perfectly even on the tablet, edges protector = edges tablet.
Charge cable was in box, but it was wound a bit loopsided. But I think it more likely that it came that way - besides, how many people do even need those cables nowadays? Even if they need them, they likely will not use them when trying the tablet out.
Charge of 65%
Tablet itself:
I couldn't see a backlight uniformity issue, tried it with a white background with 100% luminosity in a dark room. Compared to the Z1 Tablet the screen looks a LOT dimmer in the dark, but I suspect that is more because the Z4 has some auto-dim function there. In bright light the Z4 screen looks slightly brighter.
What I noticed is that the speakers produce a fair amount of white noise. At 10% it is very noticeable, at 50% I do not hear it unless it is a very silent scene and I am concentrating on it. Somewhat annoying and IMO not something a tablet in that price range should have, but not annoying enough for me to play replacement bingo.
My seller is out of stock with a new batch due next week. I'll let you know when it comes. From what I can tell, Sony products are never fully sealed.
Here's a light review of the phone from Clove:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFeUoVyT9Q&feature=youtu.be
Preorders up today as well.
Unboxing vid. Looks like they went with a nicer packaging this time.
VS. an iPhone 6 vid
VS. the Z5 Compact vid
i have bought yesterday the white x compact. unfortunately its a bit larger than the z3c. well im a bit disappointed but not because of the sd 650. the performance is quite good. its definately responsive and quick for a compact. but the bezel on the bottom is bigger than at the top. looks like a design fail. vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept. maybe for some people a minor thing but for me when i got used to my z3c this not ok. the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap. dust and dirt wil again find a nice place there. this was the reason why i have replaced my white z3c with a black one after the motherboard was dead on the white one. it seems sony has not learned from their mistakes. fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced but works very well. on the back side there you have gaps on top and bottom. i really do not understand sony. this phone costs 450€ and it seems they have no QA before packaging. camerawise i can see some improvements. focus is much faster than z3c. but the camera quality nowhere comparable to a galaxy s7. its ok but not that i would say wow. front cam is better than z3c. no softskin blur effect more but when it gets dark the front cam is not very good. generally i was expecting more from sonys camera system.
the best thing at this phone is the display. the black values and color reproduction is very good. looks like amoled but is probably a very good ips. but i think its displaying to much red. adjusting whitebalance helps. generally much better than z3c. due to the 2D glass curves it seems that display is almost printed regardless the 720p.
but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
loudspeakers are a bit louder probably due to the lack of water resistance. they sound better.
the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
the biggest problem is that there are no smartphones at 4,6inch with good quality anymore. i was even thinking about iphone but no thanks. i dont want to be a slave of itunes and pay more than 750€ for a phone. SE is too small. z5c is overheating, bulky & too rectangle. A3 2016 is 4,7inch and therefor longer. could be ok. BUT it has no fuc*** notification LED. major fail by samsung as this is inacceptable in 2016. but generally the build quality by samsung has raised. the galaxy s7 in a size of 4,6inch would be perfect. im remembering the times with my galaxy s1. fantastic phone and it was undestroyable. well if you have any questions you can ask me until i have still the phone. currently im thinking of testing an s7. but i hate to to do strange things with my thumb just to be able to reach the back button on the bottom of the phone. the s4 mini was perfect size.
So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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..vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept...
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i didn't realize that with swift key. but you are right. if you set to system vibration you have that issue. but me, i am using swift key where you can set you individual vibration duration and that works like a charm.
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the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap...
fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced...
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on my xxc the gaps are all the same size and nothing is deplaced.
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..but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
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can't confirm that too.
the 'p' works just fine. (swift key)
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the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
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i hope, root is just a question of time. i hope very soon. can't wait for it to make all my customisations i am used to.
i found a way posted here but its written so weird. i dont know if its reliable.
http://www.sadroid.com/root-sony-xperia-x-compact-5-minutes/
the individual vibration is the same. the often and quicker you are pressing a button the more the motor of the vibrator gets crazy. sound like a bee on Speed.
You must try to press the letter p probably from the right side. a bit through the curved glass. the galaxy s7 and z3 compact touchscreen is much more responsive and sensitive. for me it was often not reacting when i was not thinking to touch more precisely in the middle of the letter P. maybe a defect on my device but i think the whole touchscreen production will be affected by this. i have tested the Xperia X and it has the same behavior. i will have to test another device in store if this is the case there as well.
this website is untrusted. dont download anything from that. you will get a virus. nothing else. when a root is availbale someone will for sure post it here first. but i doubt that it will be soon. x compact has not the best specs. all the famous and talented devs have other phones currently. xxz0o was the person that developed a root for z3c after half a year i think.
ok. now i found the issue with the vibration. your duration seems to be set pretty long. i set it to 35ms and that works absolutely fine. but if you set it to f.e. 60ms you have that issue. but why would you like to have it that long?
i mean its obvious that it can be a prob. if your next press is in the range of the 60ms there is no other way for the phone to vibrate permanently. are other phones adjusting the vibration if you press faster than the setted duration?
but i am a slow writer. maybe i will never understand that problem. i just found that issue while pressing complete randomly on the keyboard. i could never write that fast.
jeah, as i thaught. the page is very weird. i would also only try a root from a page i know pretty good.
ohh. half a year? thats sad. but hope never dies.
i like the phone. maybe there are some others
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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The S7 mini would be perfect, but it will never be created. The S7 is about the same size as the iPhone 6, so if any of your friends have one, just try using it and you'll quickly realize how much harder it is to reach the top of the phone with your thumb. I'm sticking with my Z3C for another year to see if anyone (not just Sony) releases a 4.5-4.7" flagship device. The XC just doesn't meet my expectations for an "upgrade".
Phone Arena review:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-Compact-Review_id4256
The AndroidCentral Review is up, one note the lack of a fingerprint scanner is US only, the rest of the world has the fingerprint scanner available!
http://m.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-x-compact
All of these first reviews to be released seem to be very shallow in depth. They don't go into any real analysis of the phone and use very general statements to describe the user experience. In fact, these read more like unboxings than actual reviews. There's a lot of talk about what the phone looks like, the specs it comes with, and way too much of it sounds like they're reading a press release. If I was in the market for a new device. I'd wait another month for real reviews to be released.
Android Authority review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uullDQFq5W0
I sure do not have those build quality issues. gaps?! display is dead flush, heck everything is. I am very impressed with the build quality, very sturdy. I do not have trouble with coming in from the right and typing 'p' either, but if you display is not flush it would probably influence it. I am more than sure you were unlucky and got a bad apple (heh). as for the key vibration issue; if you type faster than the vibration delay is set, you are of cause going to have it vibrate all the time while typing, odd btw that you guys was set to 60ms mine was set to 25ms as default.
Hey everyone, just wanted some feedback regarding an issue I began having this week with my X Compact.
Issue: The phone is not as responsive during the unlocking process as it once was. I used to simply swipe to unlock and the phone would immediately unlock with a simple swiping motion. Now, the phone requires a harder swipe before it unlocks.
Any ideas?
So got my phone.
450 Euro, I was lucky to sell my over a year old XZ for 350.
Somebody was selling his XZ1 from TMobile contract, which is my carrier as well...
Anyway quick findings:
- Now in the Camera ISO and Shutter speed is independent. Which is nice
- They removed Pictures widget. What a shame
- The phone looks great (black), and feels great. Battery seems great as well.
- Current Xperia Transfer is a f.... joke. I got really annoyed. I mean I wanted to do in in the Cloud first, but Xperia Transfer app was PREPARING the files to send for like 50 minutes so I ditched this method. I just wanted sms and call log.
I've chosen Xperia Companion via Backup method... I took me like 6 backup and restore attempts to eventually get all the sms up to two weeks ago. I just couldn't get the latest ones. Crazy. Maybe it's a Android 7.1.1 - 8.0 compatibility issue?
- I have no bloody idea how to make Picture in Picture work
- So far the phone seems amazing. It's very snappy.
The QUESTION:
How to disable the function which changes the colour of the dark Ui elements according to the
surrounding lighting? It changes the keyboard, the dropdown menu colour etc, while other elements stay the same.
Adaptive brightness is OFF here and the phone still performs this.
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- I have no bloody idea how to make Picture in Picture work
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My xz1 hasn't arrived yet, but i can help you with picture in picture. The apps have to support it.
Try watching a video on vimeo using chrome and tap the home button to minimize it in picture in picture mode. Same for gmaps when using navigation.
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My xz1 hasn't arrived yet, but i can help you with picture in picture. The apps have to support it.
Try watching a video on vimeo using chrome and tap the home button to minimize it in picture in picture mode. Same for gmaps when using navigation.
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Okay. Thanks.
As I've tried it now, it works with Youtube or Vimeo IN THE CHROME BROWSER.
In the settings apparently Youtube supports this feature itself.
But oddly, this feature doesn't work with Youtube, Vimeo apps...
I mean who the f... is watching Vimeo or Youtube in the browser?!
This functionality is cr...p than since it doesn't follow the main functionality pattern.
Is it only Sony or any Android phone on 8.0?
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Okay. Thanks.
As I've tried it now, it works with Youtube or Vimeo IN THE CHROME BROWSER.
In the settings apparently Youtube supports this feature itself.
But oddly, this feature doesn't work with Youtube, Vimeo apps...
I mean who the f... is watching Vimeo or Youtube in the browser?!
This functionality is cr...p than since it doesn't follow the main functionality pattern.
Is it only Sony or any Android phone on 8.0?
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You need the Youtube Red subscription for the app to work in P in P mode, but it's not available in all country.
It's like that too for any Android 8.0 phones, including the Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL, so it's not Sony's fault.
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You need the Youtube Red subscription for the app to work in P in P mode, but it's not available in all country.
It's like that too for any Android 8.0 phones, including the Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL, so it's not Sony's fault.
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Thanks for clarification.
XZ1 is loveable BTW.
Do you know how to turn off this adaptive screen colour functionality?
One more:
Where the f... is magnyfying glass on text input??!
YouTube HDR does now work on the XZ1 =D
doministry said:
Thanks for clarification.
XZ1 is loveable BTW.
Do you know how to turn off this adaptive screen colour functionality?
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I've read somewhere that it's a hardware based thing (tied with the display panel/light sensor) and not really tired to Adaptive Display settings.
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I've read somewhere that it's a hardware based thing (tied with the display panel/light sensor) and not really tired to Adaptive Display settings.
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Lol what? Didn't know that. Where is it?
try this with august firmware
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/ta-backup-g814x-t3691603
So there is no magnifying glass when we input text and move the coursor
on txt input boxes?
Apparently no there is no glass here.
But the phone is very good so far.
doministry said:
So got my phone.
450 Euro, I was lucky to sell my over a year old XZ for 350.
Somebody was selling his XZ1 from TMobile contract, which is my carrier as well...
Anyway quick findings:
- Now in the Camera ISO and Shutter speed is independent. Which is nice
- They removed Pictures widget. What a shame
- The phone looks great (black), and feels great. Battery seems great as well.
- Current Xperia Transfer is a f.... joke. I got really annoyed. I mean I wanted to do in in the Cloud first, but Xperia Transfer app was PREPARING the files to send for like 50 minutes so I ditched this method. I just wanted sms and call log.
I've chosen Xperia Companion via Backup method... I took me like 6 backup and restore attempts to eventually get all the sms up to two weeks ago. I just couldn't get the latest ones. Crazy. Maybe it's a Android 7.1.1 - 8.0 compatibility issue?
- I have no bloody idea how to make Picture in Picture work
- So far the phone seems amazing. It's very snappy.
The QUESTION:
How to disable the function which changes the colour of the dark Ui elements according to the
surrounding lighting? It changes the keyboard, the dropdown menu colour etc, while other elements stay the same.
Adaptive brightness is OFF here and the phone still performs this.
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I believe the answer to your question is to edit a setting in the build prop if I'm not mistaken. However don't think this is possible without root
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Apparently no there is no glass here.
But the phone is very good so far.
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So you switched from the XZ? How does it compare in battery?
I have a really good offer for my XZ, I could get an XZ1 for a little bit more if I sell my XZ, but I'm reluctant because I'm really happy with it.
The all metal design is what I was waiting for from Sony for a long time. Things that worry me are the issues people have with rebooting, crashing apps and wifi drops. It's probably an Oreo thing, but it happens even after a recent update. The camera distortion didn't get fixed either, if I'm not mistaken. It did on the Premium.
I could get the XZ Premium for even less than my phone is worth, but the phone is really huge, the speaker mesh is fabric which freaks me out, it's a nightmare if you have to clean it and also I've seen people reporting the painted plastic loosing color or even chunks of paint falling off (only on the chrome one, as far as I noticed, not sure if it's a case with the black one as well).
The XZ1 seems to be a more premium built than the actual Premium, but reading through the user impressions, it all sounds like Oreo early adoptors issues, which might or might not be fixed.
I'm really torn here, Premium seems more matured in software and better battery, but it's a bit too big for me and the idea of it getting wear and tear marks so fast is something I'm not used to from Sony. The XZ1 seems to be opposite, buggy software, but excellent and durable build quality.
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So you switched from the XZ? How does it compare in battery?
I have a really good offer for my XZ, I could get an XZ1 for a little bit more if I sell my XZ, but I'm reluctant because I'm really happy with it.
The all metal design is what I was waiting for from Sony for a long time. Things that worry me are the issues people have with rebooting, crashing apps and wifi drops. It's probably an Oreo thing, but it happens even after a recent update. The camera distortion didn't get fixed either, if I'm not mistaken. It did on the Premium.
I could get the XZ Premium for even less than my phone is worth, but the phone is really huge, the speaker mesh is fabric which freaks me out, it's a nightmare if you have to clean it and also I've seen people reporting the painted plastic loosing color or even chunks of paint falling off (only on the chrome one, as far as I noticed, not sure if it's a case with the black one as well).
The XZ1 seems to be a more premium built than the actual Premium, but reading through the user impressions, it all sounds like Oreo early adoptors issues, which might or might not be fixed.
I'm really torn here, Premium seems more matured in software and better battery, but it's a bit too big for me and the idea of it getting wear and tear marks so fast is something I'm not used to from Sony. The XZ1 seems to be opposite, buggy software, but excellent and durable build quality.
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In my case XZ1 seems to be as stable as my XZ I loved. Just better. I can't turn off one thing here mentioned before, but overall it's great.
I didn't have any reboots or crashes, battery is great. Alarm works.
My XZ1 is working very good overall. The battery is enough for a whole day with 4G and chatting Facebook surfing and I use my phone for watching movies which takes me 30% per movie with full brightness and full sound. The WIFI issue is the only thing but if I restart the phone it works properly. I think it is oreo and I wonder if xz premium which recently get oreo faces the same problem. I hope it will be fixed with a later update. Bad camera shots in the auto mode with low light and not so light flush is something on the other hand selfies with low light are great. To sum up if I were to buy a new smartphone (with this experience of XZ1) I would buy this one again. Hope I helped you...