Navigation bar timeout and always on display - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion

I have a couple of questions that relate to potential screen burn in:
Firstly, is there any way to change the delay for when the navigation bar hides itself? I don't like having it locked in place, but I also find the timeout way too quick which is very frustrating.
Secondly, is there a risk of burn in from the always on display? I found a really cool always on display that uses some yellow and some white, but it worries me that it'll burn in.
I have read mixed reviews and posts that indicate that even though the text/images allegedly keep moving, people have experienced burn in as early as six days into getting the s8/s8+.

AOD is moving around to prevent burn in. Not sure about the soft keys though.

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CM7 Screen Dim Levels

I've done a search and it produced no results at least nothing relevant.
I'm wondering what people are using for their custom Light Levels in CM7.
Auto typically, but in my office I find it too dark... so I use 40%. I've got brightness (all of them) in the notification dropdown.... removed bluetooth and gps (pointless).
I have not done any of the screen rendering...
That's the same issue that I've had as well. I suppose it's partially due to my eyes being so accustom to the bright colors from the standard 2.2 ROMs. I'll look at tweaking it a bit. I don't mind the screen not being as bright as it was before, but it stays rather dim and becomes slightly hard to read at times.

automatic brightness bug

Hello,
theres a bug in automatic brightness: if you turn it on and hold it against the sun the brightness will go to maximum but it won't get back (darker).
ImmanuelCunt said:
Hello,
theres a bug in automatic brightness: if you turn it on and hold it against the sun the brightness will go to maximum but it won't get back (darker).
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I can't help myself, 3 thanks virgins in 2 days!!!! Owned!!!! last time I held something up to the sun it melted. Its kinda hot!!!!........
Ok in all seriousness I have not had this issue....did you try rebooting your prime? I have noticed some hicups from time to time, like touch tones stop working....but if I reboot it will work again. I am sure its just the newness of ICS, these things will get ironed out in time.
I leave it off anyways. Its a known automatic brightness is a battery drainer. You'll get better battery life with it off.
slayer69 said:
I can't help myself, 3 thanks virgins in 2 days!!!! Owned!!!! last time I held something up to the sun it melted. Its kinda hot!!!!........
Ok in all seriousness I have not had this issue....did you try rebooting your prime? I have noticed some hicups from time to time, like touch tones stop working....but if I reboot it will work again. I am sure its just the newness of ICS, these things will get ironed out in time.
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I wish you took my thanks virginity LOL but yeah i've not come across this issue but who holds their tablet up at the sun... lol
ImmanuelCunt said:
Hello,
theres a bug in automatic brightness: if you turn it on and hold it against the sun the brightness will go to maximum but it won't get back (darker).
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I think this is more of a feature than a bug, although I keep mine at one certain level anyway.
It's to give you a more seamless experience, as soon as the screen goes off and back on it adjusts. It's so when you're reading an article and move from one area to another, you don't get a surprise mid-sentence. I always hated reading things off my phone with auto brightness on, couldn't just focus on the words had to keep tripping up on a constantly changing screen.
With sun i meant that you can hold it against a bright light
Sry for my bad english...
I've actually noticed some differences in the sensitivity of the light sensor on various units. Some do seem to get "stuck," where others maintain an accurate measurement of ambient light. This seems to be correlated to newer units (e.g., C1 units).
The one I'm using right now does switch lighting both more quickly and, it would seem, more accurately. The ones I had previously would get stuck either on high or low brightness (with very little adjustment in between), and I needed to toggle the auto brightness button to get them to adjust to new conditions.
I found auto brightness on the device to be an annoying burden if anything. I just keep it pretty low all the time. Better that way anyways.
Same problem here - The brightness goes up under bright light, and won't readjust until the next screen off/on or reboot.
Does anyone have a Prime that adjusts back down without turning the screen off?
I swear it's intentional and not a bug, although they should offer you the option of controlling its parameters. Just have to wait for the unlocker and some custom ROMage.
But seriously, I think it's to keep a continuity in your current session, so that if you're gaming or working (the two things this tablet's for) you're not plagued by an ever-changing screen that distracts you...
buxtahuda said:
Does anyone have a Prime that adjusts back down without turning the screen off?
I swear it's intentional and not a bug, although they should offer you the option of controlling its parameters. Just have to wait for the unlocker and some custom ROMage.
But seriously, I think it's to keep a continuity in your current session, so that if you're gaming or working (the two things this tablet's for) you're not plagued by an ever-changing screen that distracts you...
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I can see how the concept of continuity can be good. But in my case for example, switching the bedroom light on - followed by a certain increase of brightness on ATP - then switch the bedroom light off to go to bed - the persistent brightness (tested for >15mins) can be a little straining on the eyes. Although readjusting the brightness is as simple as 'clicking' the 'auto' icon on/off again so that the brightness comes down to appropriate level (it only takes 2seconds to do it) - I think this is defeating the purpose of having the auto-brightness setting in the first place.
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I can see how the concept of continuity can be good. But in my case for example, switching the bedroom light on - followed by a certain increase of brightness on ATP - then switch the bedroom light off to go to bed - the persistent brightness (tested for >15mins) can be a little straining on the eyes. Although readjusting the brightness is as simple as 'clicking' the 'auto' icon on/off again so that the brightness comes down to appropriate level (it only takes 2seconds to do it) - I think this is defeating the purpose of having the auto-brightness setting in the first place.
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Oh I whole-heartedly agree. Going from my living room anywhere else in the house causes blindness with auto brightness on. And it acts completely opposite on this device than all others I've touched that use the feature. And like you say, if it's "automatic brightness" then why would it not be totally automated?
I'm just saying there's definite reasoning and programming behind it, it's not just some bug per se.
Therefore, don't expect ASUS to do anything about it, it'll all be up to our wonderful dev's here; they'll say it's properly functioning even though it's bass ackwards from everything else in existence.

Screen Burn?

Hello.
Today i noticed that my main screen has a burn in.
I used AMOLED Burn in fix and i can see the message bar from whatsapp and also the bottom screen buttons etc.
Anyone else had this problems?
Considering the v10 uses LCD, not OLED or AMOLED....no
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But why can I see whatsapp text entry bar thing on the grey background. And also the home/back buttons etc
LCD does not burn in. I don't know what you could be seeing, but it seems very highly unlikely.
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aniqpirzada said:
Hello.
Today i noticed that my main screen has a burn in.
I used AMOLED Burn in fix and i can see the message bar from whatsapp and also the bottom screen buttons etc.
Anyone else had this problems?
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i have the same issue. i dont know what to do. it has some kind of image retention issue. after that i also noticed a lot of deas pixels.
davidcastyalexandra said:
i have the same issue. i dont know what to do. it has some kind of image retention issue. after that i also noticed a lot of deas pixels.
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mines seemed to fix itself
aniqpirzada said:
Hello.
Today i noticed that my main screen has a burn in.
I used AMOLED Burn in fix and i can see the message bar from whatsapp and also the bottom screen buttons etc.
Anyone else had this problems?
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I've had this problem for a few days about 2 weeks ago, I could still see AT&T in the top corner. It did look like it was burned in but I knew it wasn't since it's LCD so I didn't worry about it too much. It randomly fixed itself. I wonder what caused it.
I have the same exact problem. And it heals itself but 5 mins of whatsapp use and there it is again. It is so annoying. I m thinking of returning it!
I would suggest to get rid of what's app. That seems to be the common cause for the majority here. Could be what's app is bad app to run on V10
If you dont call this a screen burn then what is it:
http://imgur.com/a/zQWIR
After 3hrs of wave navigation
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This won't be too helpful since I can't remember for sure what I was looking at when it happened but...
Earlier today I noticed that my keyboard was showing "in the background" of an app as though it was burned in.
It was definitely strange looking.
I think it was the weather channel app (which had no need for a keyboard popup) yet it almost looked like the app was transparent with the keyboard behind it.
It's definitely not doing it now but it was really weird looking!
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Guys please relax that's just image retention as far as LCDs are the topic. Unless if you stay at the same thing for like 5 hours (this [might] cause a permanent retention i guess).
the only thing that is prone to burn ins are OLED screens. And burn ins are permanent... because they are a burn.
LCDs only retain images because the crystals in their display tends to stay at the same position they are in after a long period of use but this doesn't actually produce damage and doesn't stay permanently. Once the display changes (either turned off or a different thing is displayed) they would eventually return to their normal state and work just fine.
Interesting. I wasn't really "unrelaxed" though... Just never saw it before so I figured I'd share my experience.
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I just noticed a burn-in, or some kind of image retention. I accidentally left my phone on all night while sleeping and the next morning there was a burn in on the top of the screen. It's only noticible when I pull down the notification bar because it's gray. I can only see it in the gray. The whole status bar is burned-in. It has been gradually dissipating. I also noticed a little bit of this when I used Waze for a long road trip a couple weeks ago, but it wasn't as severe of a burn in. At least it is disappearing slowly.
SuhasTheBest said:
I just noticed a burn-in, or some kind of image retention. I accidentally left my phone on all night while sleeping and the next morning there was a burn in on the top of the screen. It's only noticible when I pull down the notification bar because it's gray. I can only see it in the gray. The whole status bar is burned-in. It has been gradually dissipating. I also noticed a little bit of this when I used Waze for a long road trip a couple weeks ago, but it wasn't as severe of a burn in. At least it is disappearing slowly.
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Same happened to me today. Slept through an amber alert that caused my screen to stay on. When i woke up my phone was off and hot to the touch. Switched batteries and noticed after powering on the amber alert was still faintly visible in the backgound. After about 10 minutes of screen use it gradually faded away.
LG V10 From TMobile Image Burn !
My LG V10 Its Haves A Problem When Im Waching Netflix At My V10 I Can See The V10 Google Search Bar Like In The Back Of The Screen Can This Be Fix ??? Help Please And At The Main Screen I Can See Like Logo Of Things Im Not Using ???
rvnlvrz said:
Guys please relax that's just image retention as far as LCDs are the topic. Unless if you stay at the same thing for like 5 hours (this [might] cause a permanent retention i guess).
the only thing that is prone to burn ins are OLED screens. And burn ins are permanent... because they are a burn.
LCDs only retain images because the crystals in their display tends to stay at the same position they are in after a long period of use but this doesn't actually produce damage and doesn't stay permanently. Once the display changes (either turned off or a different thing is displayed) they would eventually return to their normal state and work just fine.
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Apparently officially termed "image persistence". Your post recreates a lot of the language from that article. Yeah, LCDs don't burn-in so this topic seemed rather odd to me. What could start showing up is the "dynamic contrast" done with LED backlights to LCDs burning-in; the fact that I've never heard any reports may mean it is uncommon, but I'm cringing at it happening in the future.
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Apparently officially termed "image persistence". Your post recreates a lot of the language from that article. Yeah, LCDs don't burn-in so this topic seemed rather odd to me. What could start showing up is the "dynamic contrast" done with LED backlights to LCDs burning-in; the fact that I've never heard any reports may mean it is uncommon, but I'm cringing at it happening in the future.
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Or image retention. It does go away though. Maybe a bad batch too? I drive from Ohio to Orlando, FL with Google maps on the entire time and bendy had a retention issue. All the ones with the issue also said the screen was hot. Corks that be a factor?
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I have had my V10 since December (from T-Mobile). Initially no problems to report, but the image retention issue has become progressively worse (as I type this, the image of this site is being temporarily "burned in"). my father also got a V10 the same day, but does not report this issue. User activity may be leading to a faster declining lifespan of phone, but both phones have had a drastic increase in overheating since receiving the Marshmallow update, which may also be playing a role in the even greater amounts of image retention (a single game of candy crush leaves a residual image).
I'm 19, so like most millennials, I use my phone constantly which is possibly why I have this issue, but it is unfortunate to think there's a chance my phone is slowly dying from general use.
same issue with my v10 (bought a month back)
i think my culprit is Deer hunter 2016...as its the only game i play& only notice it more once i have played it.. i have also seen that if i keep my phone off during the night.. it usually goes away.. while if my phone is ON (standyby) during the night.. it stays. i didnt turned my phone off for the past 2 nights & the burn is pretty much there as you can see. my phone is an ATT v10 h900 on lollypop.. any suggestion will be appreciated.

Always on notifcation?

Can anyone show me an example of how text notifications and others will work with always on when you receive it, I am used to having a notification light and I want to make sure this isn't a deal breaker for me.
if you use always on display no notification led appared. icons of the notification appears in the top of clock
In terms of "alerting" you to the phone, definitely not as good as led lights, because from distance it looks the same whether you have a notification or not, and nothing really pops out at you when you get new notification. But I still prefer it because you can see all the notifications you have by simply looking at the screen without turning it on or pressing anything
Will AoD cause issues with screen burn in? Does it stay in the same place or does it move around? And if it moves around, does it move to random locations or does it stay in the same exact locations?
CHH2 said:
Will AoD cause issues with screen burn in? Does it stay in the same place or does it move around? And if it moves around, does it move to random locations or does it stay in the same exact locations?
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Stays in same spot - but of course notification icons and clock constantly changing it slightly. I dont think its an issue due to how dim it is. There is a setting to make it bright, but it warns of battery drain. I have no need to make it bright though.
minnemike said:
Stays in same spot - but of course notification icons and clock constantly changing it slightly. I dont think its an issue due to how dim it is. There is a setting to make it bright, but it warns of battery drain. I have no need to make it bright though.
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Are you sure? I've definitely seen mine in at least a couple of different spots (it seems to change after a certain amount of time rather than number of locks)
cazcryy said:
Are you sure? I've definitely seen mine in at least a couple of different spots (it seems to change after a certain amount of time rather than number of locks)
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LOL. No I'm not. Since you said this, I just checked again and it seems it may have slide down the screen ever so slightly. I also just tried to turn it off and back on a few times to mark where it was and it hasnt changed. So, I will keep an eye on it and see if I can tell if there's movement. Thanks.
minnemike said:
LOL. No I'm not. Since you said this, I just checked again and it seems it may have slide down the screen ever so slightly. I also just tried to turn it off and back on a few times to mark where it was and it hasnt changed. So, I will keep an eye on it and see if I can tell if there's movement. Thanks.
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Lol yea to be honest when I first saw it in a different spot it didn't even occur to me that it might be a thing to prevent burn ins. I'd even admit to having shaken the phone a couple times to move it back once I couldn't find any settings for the clock location -_-...one of the stupider things I've done in 2017
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Will AoD cause issues with screen burn in? Does it stay in the same place or does it move around? And if it moves around, does it move to random locations or does it stay in the same exact locations?
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s8+ it moves slightly. random spots I think. same with the home button, that moves too. all ever so slightly. I think they did this to stop burns.
I hope the v30 isn't as obvious like the v20's burn, I had burn from like day 1.....
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s8+ it moves slightly. random spots I think. same with the home button, that moves too. all ever so slightly. I think they did this to stop burns.
I hope the v30 isn't as obvious like the v20's burn, I had burn from like day 1.....
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Yeah I had temp burn in on my V20 from get-go as well. Especially on the sides of the display and the second screen.
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Can you interact with the notifications? I know on the S8 you can double tap notifications to open them
cathain said:
Can you interact with the notifications? I know on the S8 you can double tap notifications to open them
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yes you can interact with the notification. double tap open the notification

What steps are you taking to prevent screen burn?

Screen burn is a problem on AMOLED Displays. After 9 months my S8 had significant burn in due mainly to gaming activities. I don't enable AOD and limit screen time on to 30 seconds. What other measures can be taken to help save the beautiful display on your S9 device?
Use lower screen brightness. I try to use 50% or less depending on environment and my GS7 didn't run into any issues with screen burn-in.
... Seriously?
I've used nothing but OLED phones since the Galaxy S2 and none have had screen burn. Even my old S3 that i have as a spare is fine. I game quite a lot on my phones too, some times for hours with no breaks but still haven't got screen burn. I never even purposely try to avoid it either.
I know that constant high brightness levels can cause burn-in on OLEDS much faster though. I use around 30 - 65% screen brightness in general, but only because of battery reasons. My S7 Edge is ok as well and i had AOD enabled for 15 months.
Screens are not created equal though and some burn easier than others. Even when they're the exact same model. There's a channel on YouTube called "Rtings" and they're testing multiple OLED LG TV's, and some are burning faster than others. So maybe you just got unlucky with the S8.
Beanyness said:
... Seriously?
I've used nothing but OLED phones since the Galaxy S2 and none have had screen burn. Even my old S3 that i have as a spare is fine. I game quite a lot on my phones too, some times for hours with no breaks but still haven't got screen burn. I never even purposely try to avoid it either.
I know that constant high brightness levels can cause burn-in on OLEDS much faster though. I use around 30 - 65% screen brightness in general, but only because of battery reasons. My S7 Edge is ok as well and i had AOD enabled for 15 months.
Screens are not created equal though and some burn easier than others. Even when they're the exact same model. There's a channel on YouTube called "Rtings" and they're testing multiple OLED LG TV's, and some are burning faster than others. So maybe you just got unlucky with the S8.
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Burn is inevitable with AMOLED, but newer phones seem more susceptible to it. I never had LED burn problems until migrating to the S6. Also, white backgrounds such as on YouTube tend to be the most damaging, because white color is made using all RGB pixels at once.
My AOD burned the number 2 into my screen. It was quite evident. Brought it to T-mobile and they confirmed it was definitely burn in.
Luckily I was within my 14 day protection. Had it replaced with no charge.
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Just don't use the phone at maximum brightness for prolonged period and you'll be good. Never had burn ins on my S4 and S7, at least not yet, screens are still perfect to this day. I rarely set the brightness above 50%.
None.
If it happens I'll return it and get a new one. I use the device as intended.
I set full immersive mode globally using adb, AOD is off, screen brightness on auto but kept below 50% as much as possible, screen timeout is set to 1 minute. I don't play games more than 10-15 mins usually and I try to move 100% of whatever is being displayed on the screen after 30 seconds to 1 minute (even if I have to turn the screen off and back on to accomplish that).
A bit much, I know. But I had a Galaxy S4 back in the day using the screen very moderately, and within 3 months it had terrible blue burn in from the status bar and icons on the home screen Im guessing...
Taking no steps. There's no need whatsoever. People are still using Galaxy S3, S4, S5 devices with no burn in.
This whole burn in thing is taken way out of proportion.
If you get burn in so quickly, you should contact Samsung to get it repaired under warranty, because it's not normal for it to happen that quickly.
I had my S7E on 100% brightness 24/7 for over a year, with AOD, everything.....and saw not a single sign of burn in.
My S8+ had no burn in after a year of usage with AOD always on, with high brightness. There's literally no need to take any preventative steps. That's just overkill.
the_scotsman said:
Taking no steps. There's no need whatsoever. People are still using Galaxy S3, S4, S5 devices with no burn in.
This whole burn in thing is taken way out of proportion.
If you get burn in so quickly, you should contact Samsung to get it repaired under warranty, because it's not normal for it to happen that quickly.
I had my S7E on 100% brightness 24/7 for over a year, with AOD, everything.....and saw not a single sign of burn in.
My S8+ had no burn in after a year of usage with AOD always on, with high brightness. There's literally no need to take any preventative steps. That's just overkill.
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I use my device as I see fit. Not taking much in preventative for burn. More towards batt life. I have never really burned any device. My wife's s5 had Facebook burned in pretty good. I used aod for several hours at night. But it's been great on every Sammy device I ever owned
Way out of proportion. I mean any static image can and will eventually burn to a oled. But I'm sure I'll have a new device before it ever gets as bad as a several year old s3 s4
Well, first thing I'm doing is NOT using a dark theme. (With totally black portions). I found that using such a theme will create uneven screen wear (burn in) , because there's portions of the screen that just wont be affected, like for example think the YouTube app's video portion.
Everything I can...
This is my third Samsung with AMOLED. The first was a Note 2. I started playing a geo-location game that needed to have the screen on to get credit for moving around. So it ran for hours each day. Annoyingly it has a bright green box in the upper right (it's a button you use all the time), and it got burned into my display within a few months. When I got my next phone (Note 4), I took every precaution. I ran an app every night, all night long that cycles through all the colors, full screen, to aid in preventing it. I tried to mostly use my geo-location game at night with the screen brightness turned almost all the way down. It helped a lot. I went over 2 years before screen burn in started appearing. I think I made a mistake with the overnight app. I had the brightness turned way way down when perhaps I should have turned it up instead. I changed that and the burn in faded out for a few more months, but I would notice it whenever I used the game outside during the day (hiking and such), because I had to turn the brightness up to see the screen. Now it no longer fades and is every present on my screen. The phone is almost 3 years of use at this point though.
My last step I have been doing is using one-handed mode to change where that button shows up on the screen. I figure if I can prevent it from sitting in the same place all the time, it will go a long way to preventing the burn in.
Feedback from many different viewpoints is good. However it sounds like some people are saying 'screen burn in is no big deal. I've never had it'. Just because it hasn't been a problem for you, doesn't mean it's not real for other people or that's it's blown out of proportion. We all use our phones differently.
room511 said:
My AOD burned the number 2 into my screen. It was quite evident. Brought it to T-mobile and they confirmed it was definitely burn in.
Luckily I was within my 14 day protection. Had it replaced with no charge.
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Screen burn in in less than 2 weeks from an always moving display (AOD)? Sound fishy.
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Screen burn in in less than 2 weeks from an always moving display (AOD)? Sound fishy.
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Agreed.
It is what it is though.
Haven't turned it on once with my new phone.
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I think that for the typical phone user, the only place burn-in is likely to be a significant issue is on the status bar, and maybe the nav bar. The S9 is my first AMOLED phone with soft buttons instead of Samsung's capacitive buttons, but the only place I've ever noticed any burn in before is on the status bar, and really, who cares about that?
If, OTOH, you frequently keep the screen on for long periods using an app with fixed in place, high-contrast items, there's probably not a lot you can do beyond reducing screen brightness. If the app allows any customization of those items, like changing colors, try to make them less bright.
Well.. having owned a few devices with AMOLED/OLED displays(S2, S3, S6, S8+, S9+), all those devices had burn ins, some worse than others.
Since the S8+, I made a habit to not max out the brightness(I'd go 100% manual on all my previous devices before S8+), l left it on auto brightness, and if I figure that it had gone too bright, I'd move the slider back to 40~50%. And also hide the navigation bar. While web browsing, I hide the status bar too. Throughout the one year of using S8+, I'm happy with how it was holding up. And continued with these habits on my current S9+. Won't say that those are compromises to the experience, if anything it's even better, with hiding the navigation bar and status, it gives it more immersive experience while protecting the display.

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