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I did have a rooted kindle fire hdx 7" running 3.2.4 quite happily but thought id fiddle with it to get the new nexus rom installed so i did the following
put the 13.3.0.0 installation on my kindle and tried to get it to update it would not co-operate. But as i left it i think it upgraded automatically to 3.2.5
firmware. I may have stopped this before completion im unsure and factory reset. it has however removed safestrap. the kindle is now displaying 13.3.0.0. ive tried putting a few img files on the kindle but its not recognizing the files and not allowing me to upgrade the firmware. The system is still rooted, id just like to get back to a nexus rom. I used the toolkit kfhdx to towelroot , Id apreciate some help. As Ive been playing with the system most of the day without success. Any help id be grateful
Hello,
I have this Kindle Fire HDX with Fire O.S. 4.5.3
I can't see the firmware version in settings, any alternative in order to find it?.
What would the basic steps to follow in order to be able to install a ROM?
I'm not asking for instruction for each step, I can search for that, I'm just hoping to get a comprehensive step by step.
I'd guess I need to root first, but in order to root I need to have certain OS and/or firmware version, therefore I'll need to rollback?
Then what would be next?
peterpayne said:
Hello,
I have this Kindle Fire HDX with Fire O.S. 4.5.3
I can't see the firmware version in settings, any alternative in order to find it?.
What would the basic steps to follow in order to be able to install a ROM?
I'm not asking for instruction for each step, I can search for that, I'm just hoping to get a comprehensive step by step.
I'd guess I need to root first, but in order to root I need to have certain OS and/or firmware version, therefore I'll need to rollback?
Then what would be next?
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I found how to rollback to version 13.3.2.8, and did the towelroot root... with the KFHDX ToolKit v0.95
But it seems there's no way currently to install a bootloader unless I have 13.3.1.0 and I haven't seen if there's a way to rollback further.
If I find a way, I'll post again I guess...
I for one have many of the same questions you are asking. I honestly have done a decent amount of research on this, having successfully rooted and installed custom ROMs and recovery on my HTC One M8, I feel I have the basics down.
So if you learn more please share, and I also would like to know how you found your firmware info?
, kk,
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I just got an HDX 7 (3rd gen) today for free, been mucking around with it for the past few hours (it's a piece of crap, really) and kinda pissed at Amazon (nothing new for me considering).
Here's what I've gleaned so far in a few hours of research... and please understand that since the OP said he's already on 4.5.3 this info is specifically related to what can be done with an HDX running 4.5.3.
What you can't do: If you're on 4.5.3 forget doing anything at all - you can't root it, you can't install custom ROMs (no Safestrap use at all), you can't unlock the bootloader, you can't do a damned thing, period. Well, you could use it like Amazon wants you to use it: a consumption device overall but that's not why we're here at XDA basically so there goes that ridiculous idea. (note this information applies to 4.5.3 specifically and nothing else)
What you can do: The only thing you CAN do if you're on 4.5.3 is to roll it back to 3.2.8 using the 3.2.8 firmware bin copied to the storage root (you can find that yourself someplace, I did but I don't have the particular link to that particular thread at the moment).
Once you're on 3.2.8 you CAN root it (I don't have the thread for that at the moment, I think the HDX Toolkit or whatever can do it using Towelroot or something). At that point you can stick with 3.2.8 and do whatever (disable OTA's, etc) - I believe you can install Safestrap as well and then install that Nexus ROM I see mentioned but that's Jelly Bean based and CM11 and CM12/12.1 cannot be used presently - the best you'll ever be able to do with 3.2.8 is running the Nexus ROM as I understand things (I could be wrong on that, someone else can chime in as needed).
Another thing you can do once you're on 3.2.8: you CAN update it to 4.5.2 using the 4.5.2 firmware bin copied to the storage root (again, you'll have to find this yourself) and 4.5.2 CAN be rooted but that's where you're stuck because you can't install Safestrap or any custom ROMs at all (not even the Nexus one), but you can kill off the OTA updates and stay with 4.5.2 as long as you want because if you don't it will update to 4.5.3 again the first chance it gets.
I didn't know all this about 6 hours ago, I got the HDX and it had 3.0.5 on it - I didn't know not to update it - well, yes, I did, but I forgot about the WiFi thing and as soon as I realized that the update had downloaded it was already too late - as soon as I rebooted it installed and I couldn't stop it from happening so that ruined my ability to do the bootloader unlock and potentially get CM12.1 on it. My fault, my mistake, but that's what happens sometimes.
As it stands I don't even want this piece of crap to be honest, I find it useless overall unless you can do custom ROMs 'cause Amazon and FireOS just flat out suck for me - if I can't do what I want with the device then I can't use it, basically, so it's listed on craigslist for sale at the moment and I hope someone grabs it quick.
That's the gist of what I've learned in the past few hours with respect to this HDX device and doing an awful lot of reading and research not only here at XDA but MobileRead and some other places.
Hope this helps...
br0adband said:
I just got an HDX 7 (3rd gen) today for free, been mucking around with it for the past few hours (it's a piece of crap, really) and kinda pissed at Amazon (nothing new for me considering).
Here's what I've gleaned so far in a few hours of research... and please understand that since the OP said he's already on 4.5.3 this info is specifically related to what can be done with an HDX running 4.5.3.
What you can't do: If you're on 4.5.3 forget doing anything at all - you can't root it, you can't install custom ROMs (no Safestrap use at all), you can't unlock the bootloader, you can't do a damned thing, period. Well, you could use it like Amazon wants you to use it: a consumption device overall but that's not why we're here at XDA basically so there goes that ridiculous idea. (note this information applies to 4.5.3 specifically and nothing else)
What you can do: The only thing you CAN do if you're on 4.5.3 is to roll it back to 3.2.8 using the 3.2.8 firmware bin copied to the storage root (you can find that yourself someplace, I did but I don't have the particular link to that particular thread at the moment).
Once you're on 3.2.8 you CAN root it (I don't have the thread for that at the moment, I think the HDX Toolkit or whatever can do it using Towelroot or something). At that point you can stick with 3.2.8 and do whatever (disable OTA's, etc) - I believe you can install Safestrap as well and then install that Nexus ROM I see mentioned but that's Jelly Bean based and CM11 and CM12/12.1 cannot be used presently - the best you'll ever be able to do with 3.2.8 is running the Nexus ROM as I understand things (I could be wrong on that, someone else can chime in as needed).
Another thing you can do once you're on 3.2.8: you CAN update it to 4.5.2 using the 4.5.2 firmware bin copied to the storage root (again, you'll have to find this yourself) and 4.5.2 CAN be rooted but that's where you're stuck because you can't install Safestrap or any custom ROMs at all (not even the Nexus one), but you can kill off the OTA updates and stay with 4.5.2 as long as you want because if you don't it will update to 4.5.3 again the first chance it gets.
I didn't know all this about 6 hours ago, I got the HDX and it had 3.0.5 on it - I didn't know not to update it - well, yes, I did, but I forgot about the WiFi thing and as soon as I realized that the update had downloaded it was already too late - as soon as I rebooted it installed and I couldn't stop it from happening so that ruined my ability to do the bootloader unlock and potentially get CM12.1 on it. My fault, my mistake, but that's what happens sometimes.
As it stands I don't even want this piece of crap to be honest, I find it useless overall unless you can do custom ROMs 'cause Amazon and FireOS just flat out suck for me - if I can't do what I want with the device then I can't use it, basically, so it's listed on craigslist for sale at the moment and I hope someone grabs it quick.
That's the gist of what I've learned in the past few hours with respect to this HDX device and doing an awful lot of reading and research not only here at XDA but MobileRead and some other places.
Hope this helps...
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This is a reasonably accurate accounting of the current state for those starting at 4.5.3. A minor footnote is the ability to install Google Play Services on 4.5.2 once rooted. That makes the device a bit more intersting as most apps in the Play Store will happily run on Fire 4.5.2. However, there is both effort and risk going this route. A safer alternative is to utilize an alternative market such as 1mobile to secure free (and some paid) content offered in the Play Store.
br0adband said:
I just got an HDX 7 (3rd gen) today for free, been mucking around with it for the past few hours (it's a piece of crap, really) and kinda pissed at Amazon (nothing new for me considering).
Here's what I've gleaned so far in a few hours of research... and please understand that since the OP said he's already on 4.5.3 this info is specifically related to what can be done with an HDX running 4.5.3.
What you can't do: If you're on 4.5.3 forget doing anything at all - you can't root it, you can't install custom ROMs (no Safestrap use at all), you can't unlock the bootloader, you can't do a damned thing, period. Well, you could use it like Amazon wants you to use it: a consumption device overall but that's not why we're here at XDA basically so there goes that ridiculous idea. (note this information applies to 4.5.3 specifically and nothing else)
What you can do: The only thing you CAN do if you're on 4.5.3 is to roll it back to 3.2.8 using the 3.2.8 firmware bin copied to the storage root (you can find that yourself someplace, I did but I don't have the particular link to that particular thread at the moment).
Once you're on 3.2.8 you CAN root it (I don't have the thread for that at the moment, I think the HDX Toolkit or whatever can do it using Towelroot or something). At that point you can stick with 3.2.8 and do whatever (disable OTA's, etc) - I believe you can install Safestrap as well and then install that Nexus ROM I see mentioned but that's Jelly Bean based and CM11 and CM12/12.1 cannot be used presently - the best you'll ever be able to do with 3.2.8 is running the Nexus ROM as I understand things (I could be wrong on that, someone else can chime in as needed).
Another thing you can do once you're on 3.2.8: you CAN update it to 4.5.2 using the 4.5.2 firmware bin copied to the storage root (again, you'll have to find this yourself) and 4.5.2 CAN be rooted but that's where you're stuck because you can't install Safestrap or any custom ROMs at all (not even the Nexus one), but you can kill off the OTA updates and stay with 4.5.2 as long as you want because if you don't it will update to 4.5.3 again the first chance it gets.
I didn't know all this about 6 hours ago, I got the HDX and it had 3.0.5 on it - I didn't know not to update it - well, yes, I did, but I forgot about the WiFi thing and as soon as I realized that the update had downloaded it was already too late - as soon as I rebooted it installed and I couldn't stop it from happening so that ruined my ability to do the bootloader unlock and potentially get CM12.1 on it. My fault, my mistake, but that's what happens sometimes.
As it stands I don't even want this piece of crap to be honest, I find it useless overall unless you can do custom ROMs 'cause Amazon and FireOS just flat out suck for me - if I can't do what I want with the device then I can't use it, basically, so it's listed on craigslist for sale at the moment and I hope someone grabs it quick.
That's the gist of what I've learned in the past few hours with respect to this HDX device and doing an awful lot of reading and research not only here at XDA but MobileRead and some other places.
Hope this helps...
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Thanks, but at what point can you actually unlock the bootloader? If you have 4.5.2 (never updated to 4.5.3), are you able to downgrade far enough to unlock the bootloader, or what? Is 4.5.3 essentially the cutoff point?
3.2.7 was the cutoff point. Sorry.
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Heres the deal I have a kindle fire HDX 8.9" (Apollo) On firmware version 14.3.2.4_user_324002120 and was wondering if it is possible to unlock the bootloader.
Montisaquadeis said:
Heres the deal I have a kindle fire HDX 8.9" (Apollo) On firmware version 14.3.2.4_user_324002120 and was wondering if it is possible to unlock the bootloader.
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Yes. Procedure involves a rollback to FireOS 14.3.1.x, installation of TWRP recovery, updating the native bootloader and then working through the unlock procedure (tedious for some). Once complete you can flash several HDX compatible roms including Nexus v4, CM11, two lollipop variants (CM12, SlipLP) or stick with FireOS provided you don't want to install gapps.
If needed I can post an outline and link to contributor supplied guides in a day or so ... or perhaps someone will jump in with the gory details. Or you also can browse through the forums. I'd wait for more info as it's pretty easy to brick your device (no recovery) if you go off script. In no case should you tweak build.prop or flash different versions of FireOS without specific instructions.
"If needed I can post an outline and link to contributor supplied guides in a day or so..."
This would be highly appreciated! Thanks!
fabische said:
"If needed I can post an outline and link to contributor supplied guides in a day or so..."
This would be highly appreciated! Thanks!
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With 3.2.4 you could use the rollback images provided by @ggow. Check page 2 of this thread (page 1 is about 3.2.5/3.2.6 users, who can NOT use the rollback images!).
This would require rooting with HDX Toolkit and installing Safestrap 3.75. With Safestrap v3.7x note that factory reset means standard wipe only! Do NOT open advanced wipe menu, and especially do NOT wipe system! Keep WLAN off/flightmode active to avoid getting updated by Amazon, (re-)root and disable OTA via HDX Toolkit after downgrade, then flash TWRP, update 3.2.3.2 bootloader via TWRP, unlock bootloader and flash ROM of your choice - be sure do create a backup of your Fire OS in TWRP and move it to your PC before you flash any custom ROM!
Read the info, and ask first if you have questions, i.e. before you brick your HDX.
Cl4ncy said:
With 3.2.4 you could use the rollback images provided by @ggow. Check page 2 of this thread (page 1 is about 3.2.5/3.2.6 users, who can NOT use the rollback images!).
This would require rooting with HDX Toolkit and installing Safestrap 3.75. With Safestrap v3.7x note that factory reset means standard wipe only! Do NOT open advanced wipe menu, and especially do NOT wipe system! Keep WLAN off/flightmode active to avoid getting updated by Amazon, (re-)root and disable OTA via HDX Toolkit after downgrade, then flash TWRP, update 3.2.3.2 bootloader via TWRP, unlock bootloader and flash ROM of your choice - be sure do create a backup of your Fire OS in TWRP and move it to your PC before you flash any custom ROM!
Read the info, and ask first if you have questions, i.e. before you brick your HDX.
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cheers mate! Just wonder how I can rollback my Apollo from 14.4.5.2 to 14.3.2.4 which is required to unlock the bootloader.
All the instructions that I can find state that you cannot rollback below 14.3.2.8....
fabische said:
cheers mate! Just wonder how I can rollback my Apollo from 14.4.5.2 to 14.3.2.4 which is required to unlock the bootloader.
All the instructions that I can find state that you cannot rollback below 14.3.2.8....
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You can't. Any attempt to rollback below 3.2.8 will brick your device (anti-rollback protection). There is no way to unlock the bootloader on a device that has been upgraded (or began life) above 3.2.6.
However, with 4.5.2 you can root, install Safestrap v4 and then have a choice of CM11 or Nexus v4. Post back if you need assistance.
Davey126 said:
You can't. Any attempt to rollback below 3.2.8 will brick your device (anti-rollback protection). There is no way to unlock the bootloader on a device that has been upgraded (or began life) above 3.2.6.
However, with 4.5.2 you can root, install Safestrap v4 and then have a choice of CM11 or Nexus v4. Post back if you need assistance.
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Thanks for the quick reply! Basically, I have constant issues with GAPPS running on my rooted 4.5.2 Apollo. For the last six months I have simply blocked any updates of Google Play Services (+chattr command). This was fine for a while, however, meanwhile apps like Google+ & Photos are working less than satisfying. I have updated Google Play Services today which eventually killed my Google Play Store. I managed to get back to the previous so-so state because I had backed up the Google Apps files with Titanium backup. Though my "simple" aim remains to have a working Gapps package on my system. However, the safestrap method, for some strange reason, is currently no option: when I install safestrap 4.1 and try to enter recovery the system goes into a black screen.
To cut a long story short my longterm plan now is to rollback to 3.2.8 again, upgrade to 4.5.2., root and reinstall Gapps manually (or is there a quicker option?). Possibly, Safestrap will work again then too.
Does this make any sense to you?
cheers!
fabische said:
THowever, the safestrap method, for some strange reason, is currently no option: when I install safestrap 4.1 and try to enter recovery the system goes into a black screen.
To cut a long story short my longterm plan now is to rollback to 3.2.8 again, upgrade to 4.5.2., root and reinstall Gapps manually (or is there a quicker option?). Possibly, Safestrap will work again then too.
Does this make any sense to you?
cheers!
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You are in a tricky situation. If Safestrap v4 won't boot the contents in one of the native Amazon partitions (boot, recovery or system) may be damaged. You need some of these components to rollback or upgrade. If attempted outcomes can range from refusing to process the rollback/update file to an unrecoverable brick. You sometimes see this in a pure stock device. Working fine then bricks after receiving an OTA.
Thoughts:
- it is possible to 'refresh' the recovery partition with Flashify but you will need to find a compatible 4.5.2 recovery image
- suggest you upgrade to 4.5.5 first. Based on limited feedback the risk of a minor FireOS v4 upgrade is less than rolling back.
- if the upgrade is successful you can then attempt a rollback to 3.2.8 followed by upgrade to 4.5.2 (keep WiFi off!!)
- you should uninstall GAaps before upgrading/downgrading.
- there is increased risk if you previously changed permissions on system files to block OTA, etc.
- you will need to reenable OTA (hopefully just a file rename) to up/downgrade.
- I believe Safestrap v4 will install and run correctly if you successfully rollback and upgrade to 4.5.2.
Davey126 said:
You are in a tricky situation. If Safestrap v4 won't boot the contents in one of the native Amazon partitions (boot, recovery or system) may be damaged. You need some of these components to rollback or upgrade. If attempted outcomes can range from refusing to process the rollback/update file to an unrecoverable brick. You sometimes see this in a pure stock device. Working fine then bricks after receiving an OTA.
Thoughts:
- it is possible to 'refresh' the recovery partition with Flashify but you will need to find a compatible 4.5.2 recovery image
- suggest you upgrade to 4.5.5 first. Based on limited feedback the risk of a minor FireOS v4 upgrade is less than rolling back.
- if the upgrade is successful you can then attempt a rollback to 3.2.8 followed by upgrade to 4.5.2 (keep WiFi off!!)
- you should uninstall GAaps before upgrading/downgrading.
- there is increased risk if you previously changed permissions on system files to block OTA, etc.
- you will need to reenable OTA (hopefully just a file rename) to up/downgrade.
- I believe Safestrap v4 will install and run correctly if you successfully rollback and upgrade to 4.5.2.
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Thanks, davey126. Before I set off for this next adventure: what is your guess that we will see an unlocked bootloader for current fire OS versions in the future? (this might save a lot of trouble)
fabische said:
Thanks, davey126. Before I set off for this next adventure: what is your guess that we will see an unlocked bootloader for current fire OS versions in the future? (this might save a lot of trouble)
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Close to (effectively) zero. A new vulnerability would have to be discovered followed by an exploit to leverage it. 3rd gen devices have been discontinued; we don't even have root for 4th gen devices. I suspect few resources are being expended on this device. All the (Amazon) excitement surrounds the new $50 USD tablets that have been rooted and have a selection of custom roms. HDX is quickly becoming a beautiful dinosaur. Hi specs are out, cheap is in.
Davey126 said:
You are in a tricky situation. If Safestrap v4 won't boot the contents in one of the native Amazon partitions (boot, recovery or system) may be damaged. You need some of these components to rollback or upgrade. If attempted outcomes can range from refusing to process the rollback/update file to an unrecoverable brick. You sometimes see this in a pure stock device. Working fine then bricks after receiving an OTA.
Thoughts:
- it is possible to 'refresh' the recovery partition with Flashify but you will need to find a compatible 4.5.2 recovery image
- suggest you upgrade to 4.5.5 first. Based on limited feedback the risk of a minor FireOS v4 upgrade is less than rolling back.
- if the upgrade is successful you can then attempt a rollback to 3.2.8 followed by upgrade to 4.5.2 (keep WiFi off!!)
- you should uninstall GAaps before upgrading/downgrading.
- there is increased risk if you previously changed permissions on system files to block OTA, etc.
- you will need to reenable OTA (hopefully just a file rename) to up/downgrade.
- I believe Safestrap v4 will install and run correctly if you successfully rollback and upgrade to 4.5.2.
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Am I in serious trouble now?
I have followed to downgrade path by first updating (my 3rd Gen Apollo) from 4.5.2 to 4.5.4 and then to 4.5.5. Next was the 3.2.8-downgrade file:
mod-update-kindle-apollo-14.3.2.8_user_714328020.bin
However, starting this downgrade always results in a "Last update failed" message.
It turns out that there are two different 4.5.5 update files.
update-kindle-22.4.5.5_user_455001820
update-kindle-14.4.5.5_user_455001320
I have updated to the more recent "455001820" which actually refuses the downgrade to 14.3.2.8.
Seems I am stuck now?
Can I at least root update-kindle-22.4.5.5_user_455001820?
Thanks!
UPDATE:
Stuck where I was, I allowed my apollo to go online again. It found a newer 4.5.5 Fire os update and I let it download and run through. It now seems that I am on the latest version of 4.5.5. However, with this setup I am still unable to downgrade to 3.2.8. Every attempt to do so delivers a "Last update failed" message...
AFTERTHOUGHT
Could it make any difference if I factory reset the device (i.e. with regards to the downgrading process)? I have also noticed that I did not uninstall GAPPs before updating Fire OS to 4.5.5. However, I did manage to uninstall Google Apps and then also deleted google related files by searching with ES Explorer.
fabische said:
Am I in serious trouble now?
I have followed to downgrade path by first updating (my 3rd Gen Apollo) from 4.5.2 to 4.5.4 and then to 4.5.5. Next was the 3.2.8-downgrade file:
mod-update-kindle-apollo-14.3.2.8_user_714328020.bin
However, starting this downgrade always results in a "Last update failed" message.
It turns out that there are two different 4.5.5 update files.
update-kindle-22.4.5.5_user_455001820
update-kindle-14.4.5.5_user_455001320
I have updated to the more recent "455001820" which actually refuses the downgrade to 14.3.2.8.
Seems I am stuck now?
Can I at least root update-kindle-22.4.5.5_user_455001820?
Thanks!
UPDATE:
Stuck where I was, I allowed my apollo to go online again. It found a newer 4.5.5 Fire os update and I let it download and run through. It now seems that I am on the latest version of 4.5.5. However, with this setup I am still unable to downgrade to 3.2.8. Every attempt to do so delivers a "Last update failed" message...
AFTERTHOUGHT
Could it make any difference if I factory reset the device (i.e. with regards to the downgrading process)? I have also noticed that I did not uninstall GAPPs before updating Fire OS to 4.5.5. However, I did manage to uninstall Google Apps and then also deleted google related files by searching with ES Explorer.
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I do not think the different subversion of 14.4.5.5 are significant in your situation although good to know they exist.
Yes - I would try a factory reset as others have reported success when update (rollback) files fail to process. This is one of the few cases where benefits of a factory reset outweigh risks. Make sure usb debugging is enabled as it may prove beneficial if your device has trouble restarting after the reset.
Davey126 said:
I do not think the different subversion of 14.4.5.5 are significant in your situation although good to know they exist.
Yes - I would try a factory reset as others have reported success when update (rollback) files fail to process. This is one of the few cases where benefits of a factory reset outweigh risks. Make sure usb debugging is enabled as it may prove beneficial if your device has trouble restarting after the reset.
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Thanks, davey126. I have made factory reset on my device. I will try to downgrade later today. With regard to unlocking the 4.5.5. bootloader there has been an interesting development: a couple of days ago somebody managed to crack the 4.5.5 bootloader - unfortunately for the Kindle HD 7 (3rd Gen, 2013) only. What is your guess: could this prove useful for the HDX? Could this become a Safestrap alternative? Is it worth the wait?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...ment/unlock-kfsowi-bootloader-unlock-t3262770
fabische said:
Thanks, davey126. I have made factory reset on my device. I will try to downgrade later today. With regard to unlocking the 4.5.5. bootloader there has been an interesting development: a couple of days ago somebody managed to crack the 4.5.5 bootloader - unfortunately for the Kindle HD 7 (3rd Gen, 2013) only. What is your guess: could this prove useful for the HDX? Could this become a Safestrap alternative? Is it worth the wait?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...ment/unlock-kfsowi-bootloader-unlock-t3262770
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Aside from sharing a generational identifier the two tabs have little in common. It's possible there is some similar code in the bootloader...but that seems unlikely. The real issue imo is the number people working on HDX vs HD variants. Only a few talented devs (I'm not one of them) tinkering with the former which is now discontinued.
Installing Safestrap does not decisively close the door to leveraging future BL exploits should one become available. I also think we may see some progress on a LP/MM rom for SS over time. Fingers crossed!
Davey126 said:
Aside from sharing a generational identifier the two tabs have little in common. It's possible there is some similar code in the bootloader...but that seems unlikely. The real issue imo is the number people working on HDX vs HD variants. Only a few talented devs (I'm not one of them) tinkering with the former which is now discontinued.
Installing Safestrap does not decisively close the door to leveraging future BL exploits should one become available. I also think we may see some progress on a LP/MM rom for SS over time. Fingers crossed!
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Thanks again, Davey126. All is well now.
It all turned out as you predicted: downgrading 3.2.8 was possible after I made a factory reset on 4.5.5.
The rest was easy: upgrading back to 4.5.2 and rooting.
Your second prediction also proved correct: Safestrap 4.0.1 was not working properly on my fire os stock ROM. However, by going through this whole down- and upgrading process again Safestrap couldn't run smoother as it runs now. Finally, a working Safestrap opened the road (Hallelujah!!) to GET RID OF FIRE OS ONCE AND FOR ALL. I am now on rooted CM11 with GAPPS and starting to explore a new, liberated tablet! One more reason to celebrate!
fabische said:
Thanks again, Davey126. All is well now.
It all turned out as you predicted: downgrading 3.2.8 was possible after I made a factory reset on 4.5.5.
The rest was easy: upgrading back to 4.5.2 and rooting.
Your second prediction also proved correct: Safestrap 4.0.1 was not working properly on my fire os stock ROM. However, by going through this whole down- and upgrading process again Safestrap couldn't run smoother as it runs now. Finally, a working Safestrap opened the road (Hallelujah!!) to GET RID OF FIRE OS ONCE AND FOR ALL. I am now on rooted CM11 with GAPPS and starting to explore a new, liberated tablet! One more reason to celebrate!
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Excellent - glad everything went as hoped. I suggest you glance through previous posts to make sure everything is configured to give you the best experience.
Enjoy your liberated HDX.
I'm trying to restore my HDX 7" (Thor) to stock (or at least as close as possible). I was able to restore from an old backup to get back to an old amazon firmware from 2014 but i cannot install updates through the OS (this is after a factory reset in the amazon fire OS)...i then attempt to load the newest update via ADB in TWRP but i get the message that "this package is for thor products this is cm_thor."
Any ideas?
Thanks!
edit: went into the "updater-script" and changed all instances of Thor to cm_thor to see if that would help...instead i just got "this package is for cm_thor products this is a thor."
xamievilx said:
I'm trying to restore my HDX 7" (Thor) to stock (or at least as close as possible). I was able to restore from an old backup to get back to an old amazon firmware from 2014 but i cannot install updates through the OS (this is after a factory reset in the amazon fire OS)...i then attempt to load the newest update via ADB in TWRP but i get the message that "this package is for thor products this is cm_thor."
Any ideas?
Thanks!
edit: went into the "updater-script" and changed all instances of Thor to cm_thor to see if that would help...instead i just got "this package is for cm_thor products this is a thor."
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Wrong procedure; lucky you didn't brick it. Details please:
- native TWRP or Safestrap?
- what ROM is current installed (including version)
- reason for restoring? Are you trying to resolve a problem?
TWRP - 2.8.7.0
Amazon firmware: 13.3.2.1
i have an old backup that i can restore from at anytime from right after i initially rooted and blocked OTA updates back in 2014...
i just decided i wanted everything back to stock...didn't realize it was going to be such a pain...
xamievilx said:
TWRP - 2.8.7.0
Amazon firmware: 13.3.2.1
i have an old backup that i can restore from at anytime from right after i initially rooted and blocked OTA updates back in 2014...
i just decided i wanted everything back to stock...didn't realize it was going to be such a pain...
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Given you have TWRP (nice!) and no interest in a custom ROM you could simply flash FireOS v4.5.5 from this thread. You won't be able to restore stock recovery...nor is their any benefit in doing so.
Hi,
So a while back(couple years ago), I successfully rooted my kindle fire hdx and installed cynogenmod(i think cm11) using safestrap because I think I remember reading something about how this specific kindle could not install twrp. Everything was running fine and my root was working. Anyways, fast forward to now I discovered that certain apps that detect root such as banking apps do not allow use on rooted devices. I found something called Magisk which is an alternative root that is hidden from apps. I then downloaded the Magisk manager and tried to install it directly using the app without first unrooting my current SuperSU root.
My device is now stuck in a bootloop with the kindle fire logo. I have tried resetting to factory defaults but it did not help. Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Thanks.
yumsty said:
Hi,
So a while back(couple years ago), I successfully rooted my kindle fire hdx and installed cynogenmod(i think cm11) using safestrap because I think I remember reading something about how this specific kindle could not install twrp. Everything was running fine and my root was working. Anyways, fast forward to now I discovered that certain apps that detect root such as banking apps do not allow use on rooted devices. I found something called Magisk which is an alternative root that is hidden from apps. I then downloaded the Magisk manager and tried to install it directly using the app without first unrooting my current SuperSU root.
My device is now stuck in a bootloop with the kindle fire logo. I have tried resetting to factory defaults but it did not help. Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Thanks.
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Bootloop was 100% assured regardless of what you did with SuperSU. You'll need to intentionally 'brick' (not entirely accurate) and unlock you device to recover. Upside is you will score a more versatile gizmo that can run a newer version of Android. Downside is procedure is not for the faint of heart. You'll receive little assistance along the way as these devices have fallen out of favor despite being superior to most other <$200 USD Android tablets on the market today. Good luck.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/how-to-root-unlock-hdx-noobies-t3916167
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/multi-platform-1-click-bootloader-t3241014