I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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Wait for the carrier unlocked versions European or U.S.) which will be eligible for official bootloader unlock.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3665927
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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I agree. I love the pre-order stuff, but TBH, this one isn't giving much. I don't use vr headsets. I'm gonna wait until the unlocked one comes and get that. I miss root.... Haven't had it since the G4.
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
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I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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I think he is just being a smart ass, same **** people were doing in the note 8 forums about root on carrier phones.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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You feel better? Just because I don't need root means I need to go Apple. Great thought processing you have going. KY
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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Nothing official but more than likely around the middle of November, at least what some sites are hinting towards.
the LG V30 is the most gorgeous phone they've ever made. I like that it doesn't have overly curved sides creating a glare. BUT....I have to have full theming available. The theming out of the box doesn't cut it. I need everything to be black with an accent color of my choosing.
Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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You mean the 600MHz frequency? LTE BAND 71? The new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band? Not sure why you used the words "network speed".
I'm not speaking for LG, but European carrier unlocked V30 wouldn't need it. What carriers in Europe are using that LTE band? It's not just software, but also hardware (antennas) needed to send/receive that new LTE band.
For instance the South Korea LG V30 model does not have that band.
We have yet to see if the U.S. carrier unlocked version will definitely have it on release. It should, as all the U.S. variants should have the same hardware, with various bands enabled/disabled according to carrier needs. Verizon doesn't need LTE band 71, T-Mobile does.
But it would make sense for LG to basically make the same phone for all of North America, and then enable/disable bands for various carriers.
The "carrier unlocked" version US998 SHOULD have all the U.S./Canada bands enabled. One dept. of T-Mobile said it would, but another said it wouldn't or they didn't know. But LG doesn't need T-Mobile permission to enable that band on a phone T-Mobile is not selling (carrier unlocked version, US998). T-Mobile can't speak for LG.
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So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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Why did you sent the note 8 back???
Is the best phone out there so far....
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hey guys i am officially done with samsung after a complete circus ride of an s6. would like to buy a g5 but there are so many flippin variants i don't know what to buy. i'm currently on at&t, and i know they are all against unlocking the boot loader, so which do i get? i saw that the european g5 is the only one to get twrp? i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
European variant is H850.
I might get a European version myself. It costs the same if I were to buy it outright in Canada. The only thing I have to verify is the frequencies.
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i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
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No IT Has to be a H850 from Europe.
H860 is a dualsim LG g5.
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No IT Has to be a H850 from Europe.
H860 is a dualsim LG g5.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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You have to be sure that the Phone Comes from a European country.
And like mohsinkhan35 mentioned you schuld check the frequencies
Edit: in a Lot of countrys tmobile is a Network Carrier.
I don think that Helps.
Maybe ask the selber.
Amazon just started selling the RS988 model that is supposedly fully unlocked and supports all the US carrier frequency bands. I just ordered one today - $649.99 + tax, free same day delivery (in some areas - I'm in LA).
http://amzn.to/206SH6F
When I get it, I'll let you know if it is actually fully unlocked.
BestBuy also has fully unlocked G5s.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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Clove is where I bought mine... Very reputable seller out of the UK. Myself and some other people on the forums bought their H850 from clove. Got mine via DHL from the UK to Colorado in 2 days!
Verified H850 unlocked, unbranded, and made for UK but listed as EU open. Have had ZERO issues that others report.
Everytime I look at the lg g5 site listing the price goes down.
If u want guaranteed root and twrp go with H850 EU open variant. Do not buy from eBay! Go with Clove or AmazonUK.
Also H850 supports all the band's you'll need unless u decide to join CDMA network. DO not get RS988 , if history has shown us anything about LG, it tells us that variant will only ever be carrier unlocked.
Clove link:
https://m.clove.co.uk/lg-g5
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hey guys i am officially done with samsung after a complete circus ride of an s6. would like to buy a g5 but there are so many flippin variants i don't know what to buy. i'm currently on at&t, and i know they are all against unlocking the boot loader, so which do i get? i saw that the european g5 is the only one to get twrp? i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
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Just a PSA if you get the rs988 do not change or update your imei. Att does not recognize the device in any way and you would be stuck with hspa+ just was on the phone with them had to use my old imei.
Thanks for the clove link. How long does shipping take? Kinda wanting to get one asap.
I know the locked version will for sure, but what about the unlocked version? If you have any official info, please post it here.
Thanks!
Yes, it will. The unlocked LG G6 US997 released a few months ago vhas Verizon VoLTE, so this will too.
However, Wi-Fi calling doesn't work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72372878&postcount=8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72538132
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Yes, it will. The unlocked LG G6 US997 released a few months ago vhas Verizon VoLTE, so this will too.
However, Wi-Fi calling doesn't work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72372878&postcount=8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72538132
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Hi Chazz,
Well here's the problem though. T-Mobile REQUIRED VoLTE to be certified with them before it works. It takes time and money to get certified. But like AT&T and Verizon don't, so not as difficult with them. That's why I'm asking cuz no official word yet on the unlocked V30 getting it. Obviously for sure the locked T-Mobile variant will be VoLTE-certified with T-Mo though.
Yeah Wi-Fi Calling I think is only available on T-Mobile still. I think?
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Hi Chazz,
Well here's the problem though. T-Mobile REQUIRED VoLTE to be certified with them before it works. It takes time and money to get certified. But like AT&T and Verizon don't, so not as difficult with them. That's why I'm asking cuz no official word yet on the unlocked V30 getting it. Obviously for sure the locked T-Mobile variant will be VoLTE-certified with T-Mo though.
Yeah Wi-Fi Calling I think is only available on T-Mobile still. I think?
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I apologize, I mis-read. For some reason I thought you were asking about Verizon VoLTE. I'll research. If the unlocked G6 has it on T-Mobile, then this will too. But I only researched Verizon. Sorry.
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I apologize, I mis-read. For some reason I thought you were asking about Verizon VoLTE. I'll research. If the unlocked G6 has it on T-Mobile, then this will too. But I only researched Verizon. Sorry.
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No problem at all man! Yeah it would be good to know how they handled the Unlocked G6 on T-Mobile.
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No problem at all man! Yeah it would be good to know how they handled the Unlocked G6 on T-Mobile.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
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Model US997 does not have wifi calling. Yes to Volte, but no wifi calling!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
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I did have wifi calling enabled as well as VoLTE on my unlocked G6. I'm not sure why you don't have that option but I did.
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So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the US998 LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better on T-mobile.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better.
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Ok thanks! Maybe after it comes out I'll make sure. I could care less about Wi-Fi Calling though I have used it once or twice. VoLTE is very important though. Hopefully it has both.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the US998 LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better on T-mobile.
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I'm confused though. Is the Unlocked G6 the same as the Int'l Unlocked G6? The variant you posted was the U.S. Cellular one.
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I'm confused though. Is the Unlocked G6 the same as the Int'l Unlocked G6? The variant you posted was the U.S. Cellular one.
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It's coincidentally the U.S.Cellular model number also -- as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
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It's coincidentally the U.S.model also, as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
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Ok, interesting.
So the U.S. Unlocked G6 had VoLTE for sure then it seems. Cool, thanks for sharing this info!! :good:
I will probably still wait for verification on here from someone before I buy the Unlocked one. I want the unlocked one cuz it will be cheaper than the T-Mobile variant.
Do you know anyone who has T-Mobile and also plans to get the Unlocked U.S. variant of the V30 as well?? lol
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It's coincidentally the U.S.Cellular model number also -- as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
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Hey Chazz,
Any idea if the unlocked US V30's DAC will get B&O Certification like the int'l V20 did (but US V20 didn't)?
What about the locked US ones?? Will any version get it? Update: Ok it looks like the US version won't get it, but the European one will. Oh well. No big deal.
It appears that the unlocked V30 will get released on 10/27. B&H.com shows that date for the US998. I'm very likely going to buy it.
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Hey Chazz,
Any idea if the unlocked US V30's DAC will get B&O Certification like the int'l V20 did (but US V20 didn't)?
What about the locked US ones?? Will any version get it? Update: Ok it looks like the US version won't get it, but the European one will. Oh well. No big deal.
It appears that the unlocked V30 will get released on 10/27. B&H.com shows that date for the US998. I'm very likely going to buy it.
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No, I don't know about the B&O certification. It really took me by surprise the U.S. carrier versions didn't have B&O logo on the back and didn't have B&O headphones included. LG made such a big deal about that in the press release...
Yet, all the pre-production "US998" phones lent out for few weeks to U.S.-based tech reporters (which had to be returned after reviews) did have B&O logo and did have the headphones.
(Nobody got "free phones". That was a myth some people were spreading, saying that's why the V30 got such great reviews. People who don't understand how all this works. Yes, it helps for reviewers to have new phones in hand for a couple of weeks prior to global announcement -- with signed non-disclosure agreements -- so they can immediately write about them when embargo is lifted, but those phones are loaners. Nobody gets to keep $800 phones.)
So, does that mean the production official carrier unlocked US998 with also have those B&O features -- since the pre-production model did? Your guess is as good as mine.
I'm hoping the 10/27 date by B&H is not just a placeholder date that will mysteriously morph into 11/14 or something. Just keep in mind 10/27 would be two weeks sooner than the LG G6 US997 was released after carriers started selling their versions. Then, six weeks after that (total of 11 weeks after carrier versions) was the LG G6 US997 (and European counterpart) placed on the official bootloader unlock list. Since I'm not buying until I can root from Day 1, just when B&H starts selling is not as important as the bootloader unlock list.
I'm hoping LG speeds up the total timeline, including adding LG V30 US998 and H930 to the bootloader unlock list. THEN, the real fun can begin. :laugh:
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No, I don't know about the B&O certification. It really took me by surprise the U.S. carrier versions didn't have B&O logo on the back and didn't have B&O headphones included. LG made such a big deal about that in the press release...
Yet, all the pre-production "US998" phones lent out for few weeks to U.S.-based tech reporters (which had to be returned after reviews) did have B&O logo and did have the headphones.
(Nobody got "free phones". That was a myth some people were spreading, saying that's why the V30 got such great reviews. People who don't understand how all this works. Yes, it helps for reviewers to have new phones in hand for a couple of weeks prior to global announcement -- with signed non-disclosure agreements -- so they can immediately write about them when embargo is lifted, but those phones are loaners. Nobody gets to keep $800 phones.)
So, does that mean the production official carrier unlocked US998 with also have those B&O features -- since the pre-production model did? Your guess is as good as mine.
I'm hoping the 10/27 date by B&H is not just a placeholder date that will mysteriously morph into 11/14 or something. Just keep in mind 10/27 would be two weeks sooner than the LG G6 US997 was released after carriers started selling their versions. Then, six weeks after that (total of 11 weeks after carrier versions) was the LG G6 US997 (and European counterpart) placed on the official bootloader unlock list. Since I'm not buying until I can root from Day 1, just when B&H starts selling is not as important as the bootloader unlock list.
I'm hoping LG speeds up the total timeline, including adding LG V30 US998 and H930 to the bootloader unlock list. THEN, the real fun can begin. :laugh:
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Well it appears that T-Mobile actually IS having a promotion (or promotions) for the locked V30 after all. So I guess I'm just gonna buy the locked one. No sense in waiting. I can just sell the Plus tablet for prob at least $180 on eBay so F it. lol Plus I'm gonna sell my Topaz Gold HTC 10 for maybe $250? and then pay off the remaining $140 I owe on it. They ran out of the Topaz Gold one months ago, so I'm guessing that's why it's going for higher than the other colors (selling for around $200 vs. $300) which they still had available more recently.
Just called T-Mobile now and bought the locked V30 over the phone. I'd still like to thank you so much for all your help & info here! It is VERY much appreciated Chazz.
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Just called T-Mobile now and bought the locked V30 over the phone. I'd still like to thank you so much for all your help & info here! It is VERY much appreciated Chazz.
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You're very welcome. Glad to help when I can.
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You're very welcome. Glad to help when I can.
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One thing, the locked T-Mo V30 will have that Band 71/600 MHz capability (first one ever on their network). Do we have any idea if the unlocked V30 will have that too? VoLTE seems pretty likely given your findings on the unlocked G6, but what about this?
Need full system dumps or full images for the locked/unlocked US version to possibly find out the B71 support.
Went through Korean version system dump but couldn't find hints for B71.
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Need full system dumps or full images for the locked/unlocked US version to possibly find out the B71 support.
Went through Korean version system dump but couldn't find hints for B71.
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Interesting.
Do we know if Korea even has Band 71? That would probably be a good indication of if the unlocked one will get it too.
This is the reason why I went for the T-Mobile locked version............guaranteed Band 71 (though my area doesn't have it, YET lol)........plus guaranteed T-Mo Certified VoLTE. The unlocked V30 I believe probably will have VoLTE, but will it be T-Mo certified VoLTE is the real question for me. With the promo T-Mo is running to get the $500 G6 for free (which I am selling at a profit of course lol.....made more sense to get that vs. the tablet and then profit less) along with your V30 purchase, then the price difference b/t the unlocked and locked versions no longer matters. I'm selling the G6 to a relative, and agreed to $225. That right there puts my $800 locked V30 at below the expected price of the unlocked ($700?) if you subtract that profit from the $800 cost. Yeah I'll have bloatware lol, but I'll just disable or uninstall them.
Thanks for checkin' into this VeixES!
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Interesting.
Do we know if Korea even has Band 71? That would probably be a good indication of if the unlocked one will get it too.
This is the reason why I went for the T-Mobile locked version............guaranteed Band 71 (though my area doesn't have it, YET lol)........plus guaranteed T-Mo Certified VoLTE. The unlocked V30 I believe probably will have VoLTE, but will it be T-Mo certified VoLTE is the real question for me. With the promo T-Mo is running to get the $500 G6 for free (which I am selling at a profit of course lol.....made more sense to get that vs. the tablet and then profit less) along with your V30 purchase, then the price difference b/t the unlocked and locked versions no longer matters. I'm selling the G6 to a relative, and agreed to $225. That right there puts my $800 locked V30 at below the expected price of the unlocked ($700?) if you subtract that profit from the $800 cost. Yeah I'll have bloatware lol, but I'll just disable or uninstall them.
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No, Korean doesn't have band 71.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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No, Korean doesn't have band 71.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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Well then I'm VERY glad I got the T-Mobile locked version. lol
Do you think LG will allow this one to be unlocked?
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Do you think LG will allow this one to be unlocked?
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Considering LG's track record it's highly unlikely. I emailed them about it but have yet to get an answer. It's a shame really because right now the only way to get V30 in most of Europe is importing H930DS (3 months after announcement!).
Probably not. The European model was added on the developer list pretty fast after release, like next day. The DS is not there and was released before, I think. Waiting to see if the US998 model will be added.
@caseyryback21 opened one of the difficult Q&A format questions yesterday, then asked it be deleted -- but the question itself is valid, so I'm reposting it in a "regular" discussion thread, along with my answer.
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What version of the phone is the ideal model to purchase that it's carrier unlocked, and able to be bl unlocked/root?. The LG V30 seems like just what I'm wanting, but there are so many variants I am simply to afraid to purchase in fear of getting a less than ideal model.
From the reading and searching I've done, it seems that I can buy almost any of the iterations, then just convert it to a us998. I just can't figure out which one I should to get, to ensure that it's carrier unlocked, and able to be bl unlocked, and root.
I'm currently on T-Mobile prepaid and still have the 5gb, ul text,and just 100 minutes for only $30/mo. I have switched to Straight Talk (att mvno) when I've needed more talk time or traveled to certain places where the coverage is a little more reliable.
Lastly, what added to my confusion was that I was looking at a us998 for sale, but the listing indicated it was locked to US Cellular. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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EDITING SOME OF MY REPLIES IN THIS THREAD AS THEY WERE ORIGINALLY WRITTEN IN AUGUST 2018. STUFF HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN.
Any LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. But some V30/V30+ sold in other parts of the world do not have the bands you need for your carrier. So, for North America carriers with bootloader unlock and root, you want any North America variant.
V30+ (128GB) has more internal storage than V30 (64GB), if that's important to you. The V30S has more RAM (6GB vs 4GB), but right now the V30+ seems to be the sweet spot in price between the three "V30" (code name Joan) series models. For the rest of this discussion, I'm only going to be talking about V30/V30+.
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For the WTF bootloader unlock exploit you need Oreo and fastboot flash commands. North America US998 V30/V30+ has fastboot flash commands, while the other North American variants do not.... But there's no need to specifically buy that US998 V30/V30+ variant, if you can easily convert a less expensive carrier variant bought off eBay to that model (except for T-mobile H932). For instance, right now you can get MINT LS998 V30+ (128GB) on eBay for $315. eBay often has flash 10%, 15% off sales you can take advantage of, to lessen the price even more. In 10 minutes time that LS998 V30+ can be converted to US998 V30+ and then you're ready for bootloader unlock and root.
Yes, you can Frankenstein an AT&T H931 V30, Canadian H933 V30, Verizon VS996 V30 and Sprint LS998 V30/V30+, or regional carrier AS998 (any of them) to be carrier unlocked US998. Or you can buy carrier unlocked US998 V30/V30+ to begin with... I've done both: I bought three "original" US998 V30/V30+ (from B&H Photo) and I've since bought two LS998 V30+ off eBay and converted them to US998 V30+.
The US998 is the carrier unlocked model, and it's sold by both US Cellular carrier as well as being sold as official "open market" model by 3rd party retailers on behalf of LG (like B&H Photo). Whoever said it's locked to US Cellular has no clue what they are talking about -- UNLESS it's a specific seller who signed a contract with U.S. Cellular and has not finished paying for that phone. (I doubt that; I think they just don't know what they are talking about.) But any U.S. Cellular US998 fully paid for at purchase are carrier unlocked. Tons of people bought them to use on other carriers before LG released the "official" open market US998 V30/V30+ in December 2018.
Only the official "open market" US998 (sold by authorized 3rd party retailers like B&H Photo) are eligible for LG's Developer website bootloader unlock code (IMEI and DEVICE ID are registered with LG) -- but we don't need LG's permission anymore since @TxanMoe discovered the Oreo WTF bootloader unlock exploit back in May 2018. It's easier, takes less time and you can buy almost any phone you want. LG has tried to patch that exploit with recent "security" updates, but it's very easy to downgrade back to pre-July 2018 firmware for bootloader unlock. Afterwards, you can then update back to latest firmware, once bootloader is unlocked.
US998 can be used on T-mobile, as it's the official carrier unlocked model and works on any North American carrier. The only quibble is you may or may not get T-mobile's new band 71 on US998. Some people with root said they have gotten it, others say they do not. I do not know as I use AT&T. There's various threads where it's been discussed in depth.
Thanks so much for reposting this. I don't make a lot of posts and felt like such an idiot opening up a Q & A. Your info was really great and as a matter of fact I just got my ls998 in the mail this afternoon.
Next step is just to convert it to a us998 then bootloader unlock and root
Another question I was going to ask, but will find out here soon enough, is whether or not a T-Mobile SIM will work in an LS 998 as is. Or must you first convert to a us998 before using it on another carrier?
Thanks so much, your post is full of so much info and definitely helped me make my decision.
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Next step is just to convert it to a us998 then bootloader unlock and root
Another question I was going to ask, but will find out here soon enough, is whether or not a T-Mobile SIM will work in an LS 998 as is. Or must you first convert to a us998 before using it on another carrier?
Thanks so much, your post is full of so much info and definitely helped me make my decision.
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You're welcome for the information.
For the LS998, you'll need to convert to US998. Almost all LS998 are carrier locked to Sprint. Unless the seller guarantees it's carrier unlocked. Still better to convert to US998, even if just for updates. Sprint won't release KDZ for their updates, and US998 KDZ are readily available.
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You're welcome for the information.
For the LS998, you'll need to convert to US998. Almost all LS998 are carrier locked to Sprint. Unless the seller guarantees it's carrier unlocked. Still better to convert to US998, even if just for updates. Sprint won't release KDZ for their updates, and US998 KDZ are readily available.
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One more thing you might want to add is that not all converted V30s can run AOSP ROMs. This might affect some people on which one to choose. I am not sure which ones, I believe H931 (att) and mine for sure, H932PR can't. But had I known before hand that by going with a different model I could run stock Android, I would have.
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One more thing you might want to add is that not all converted V30s can run AOSP ROMs. This might affect some people on which one to choose. I am not sure which ones, I believe H931 (att) and mine for sure, H932PR can't. But had I known before hand that by going with a different model I could run stock Android, I would have.
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EDIT: all V30/V30/V30S can run AOSP ROMS. But H931/H933 needs extra prep work. If that's too much bother, stick with US998/LS998/VS996 for North American variants.
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Yes, I've heard that. But I'm still on stock rooted firmware, so haven't thought about that.
The eBay mint LS998 V30+ ($315) are the best deal, so that's the most popular. I may buy another for a family member.
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Yes, I've heard that. But I'm still on stock rooted firmware, so haven't thought about that.
The mint LS998 V30+ are the best deal, so that's the most popular. I may buy another for a family member.
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Can those run AOSP roms after conversion? If they can I might get one and flip mine. I'm just worried I get a lemon. Mine is still in pristine condition and no issues with the screen.
I got the us998 model, too bad I upgraded to far so I can't root anymore but I really don't want root. Kind of miss my s7 edge.
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I got the us998 model, too bad I upgraded to far so I can't root anymore but I really don't want root. Kind of miss my s7 edge.
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You can still root. Just temporarily downgrade to US998 20B or 20A via dev patched LGUP (it's attached to post #1 of the US998 KDZ thread). Unlock bootloader via WTF bootloader unlock method, then upgrade back to current firmware.
With unlocked bootloader, then install TWRP and root.
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Can those run AOSP roms after conversion? If they can I might get one and flip mine. I'm just worried I get a lemon. Mine is still in pristine condition and no issues with the screen.
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EDIT: both H931 and H933 can run AOSP/LINEAGE ROMs once additional prep work has been done.
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The original AT&T H931 and I believe the original Canada H933 are the only two that have issues with AOSP ROMS once converted to US998. But you can still run stock-based ROMs on those, as well as have just rooted stock firmware.
All the other North America variants are fine. It's not just "original" US998 that are running AOSP ROMs. All the Sprint guys especially are running them. And Verizon, even former LS998 converted to US998, (rooted) then converted sometimes to VS996... Even original VS996 converted to US998 and back to VS996.
@SGCMarkus, can you give some details? I read through the AOSP ROM threads, but you're the dev for all those ROMs.
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The original AT&T H931 and I believe the original Canada H933 are the only two that have issues with AOSP ROMS once converted to US998.
All the other North America variants are fine. It's not just "original" US998 that are running AOSP ROMs. All the Sprint guys especially are running them. And Verizon, even former LS998 converted to US998, (rooted) then converted sometimes to VS996... Even original VS996 converted to US998 and back to VS996.
@SGCMarkus, can you give some details? I read through the AOSP ROM threads, but you're the dev for all those ROMs.
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Can those run AOSP roms after conversion? If they can I might get one and flip mine. I'm just worried I get a lemon. Mine is still in pristine condition and no issues with the screen.
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Yeah, H931 and H933 (even converted to US998) will bootloop for atm unknown reasons on AOSP :/
I dont think ive heard anyone report anything yet about the H932PR?
On the H930DS (Dual Sim) SIM Cards wont be recognized, and some people reported something similar for the 3 Korean variants (even though other people then said again it worked )
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Yeah, H931 and H933 (even converted to US998) will bootloop for atm unknown reasons on AOSP :/
I dont think ive heard anyone report anything yet about the H932PR?
On the H930DS (Dual Sim) SIM Cards wont be recognized, and some people reported something similar for the 3 Korean variants (even though other people then said again it worked )
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H932PR is from Claro Latin America, specifically for Puerto Rico. While we have three of the four major carries (Att, Sprint and Tmobile), Claro is the fourth major provider, but they actually were Verizon many years ago. They tried to enter the local market some time ago but failed and Claro bought their oprations. The thing is, Claro bring phones different than those on the other carriers. Their Samsung phones for example, are mostly the exynos versions and almost always are bootloader unlocked.
Thanks for the information. Just to be clear, is this the phone you mean when you say the V30S from B&H?
neverfox said:
Thanks for the information. Just to be clear, is this the phone you mean when you say the V30S from B&H?
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Yes. The V30S from B&H Photo is US998R -- it's just another US998. You'll need pre-July security patch KDZ firmware for the V30S to downgrade back to Oreo bootloader unlock exploit.
The people who initially unlocked bootloader on V30S was right after release. LG has since patched the exploit. But V30/V30+/V30S has Oreo KDZ you can temporarily downgrade to using the WTF bootloader unlock instructions. Then upgrade back to latest firmware using TWRP-flashable zips. V30S uses same firmware as the other US998. The B&H Photo US998 V30S official name is US998R (for more RAM).
I know this thread is older and it was a snapshot in time. I was hoping to switch to an ATT MVNO but after more research I'll stick with T-mo in an area that uses band 71. Unbelievably, T-mo is the only big 4 carrier that is native here in the "middle of nowhere" WY where I live as their tower is at the edge of town. I want the H932 for band 71 as well as to have all the T-mo bands when I travel.
On ebay, there are a bunch of sellers from Hong Kong that say their stock is in NJ. Reading some reviews some people call their phones fake others say they are selling used V30s. Anyone here deal the the Hong Kong sellers saying they ship out of NJ? Anyone know of a reputable seller on ebay that has H932 models reasonably priced. I'm leaning new but an open box might be OK if I can ship it back if I don't like it. A V30+ would be even better.
Thanks,
BH
bearhawk said:
I know this thread is older and it was a snapshot in time. I was hoping to switch to an ATT MVNO but after more research I'll stick with T-mo in an area that uses band 71. Unbelievably, T-mo is the only big 4 carrier that is native here in the "middle of nowhere" WY where I live as their tower is at the edge of town. I want the H932 for band 71 as well as to have all the T-mo bands when I travel.
On ebay, there are a bunch of sellers from Hong Kong that say their stock is in NJ. Reading some reviews some people call their phones fake others say they are selling used V30s. Anyone here deal the the Hong Kong sellers saying they ship out of NJ? Anyone know of a reputable seller on ebay that has H932 models reasonably priced. I'm leaning new but an open box might be OK if I can ship it back if I don't like it. A V30+ would be even better.
Thanks,
BH
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Yes, the New Jersey/Hong Kong dealers sell refurbished phones and some are totally fraudulent. I returned mine and got refund because I specifically was paying for new-in-box this time.
* Was 64GB V30 in 128GB V30+ box. I paid for new US998 V30+. Wasn't new, wasn't V30+.
* had previous owner's 128GB SD card still in the phone...
* had "B&O" branded headphones -- which don't come with North America US998. If legit North American V30+, should have come with LG-branded headphones.
Thanks, once again, ChazzMatt for the insight. Reading between the lines, it sounded like they were selling refurbs (many of which appear to have broken issues.).
I got a really good deal on a vs996 this week from ebay for $164 refurbished in "good" condition. I bought the 2 year Square Trade Warranty on top of that for $38.99 in case anything happens. Got phone yesterday and honestly, looks basically new.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-VS9...xWYu7FUH-sak82Q:sc:USPSFirstClass!91351!US!-1
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I got a really good deal on a vs996 this week from ebay for $164 refurbished in "good" condition. I bought the 2 year Square Trade Warranty on top of that for $38.99 in case anything happens. Got phone yesterday and honestly, looks basically new.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-VS9...xWYu7FUH-sak82Q:sc:USPSFirstClass!91351!US!-1
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I bought mine from YYWireless on ebay for 190 ls998 converted to a us998 looks fairly new, literally has one small scratch you cant see with the screen on so I'm happy. Plus no burn in, and finger print scanner still works so probably never been taken apart! https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 plus I mean if you do not like it they send you a return label already printed out with the phone.
First, I went back and edited some of my answers in this thread as it was first written in August 2018, and some information was outdated. T-mobile H932 was not rooted yet back then and the fix for H931/H933 to run AOSP ROMs was not discovered yet. Ignore any prices mentioned back then, as that was last year.
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Cobra11Murderer said:
I bought mine from YYWireless on ebay for 190 ls998 converted to a us998 looks fairly new, literally has one small scratch you cant see with the screen on so I'm happy. Plus no burn in, and finger print scanner still works so probably never been taken apart! https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 plus I mean if you do not like it they send you a return label already printed out with the phone.
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I used that eBay seller several times and have recommended them before in other threads. Their "9/10" listing is the one to look for, like you have. That seller has other others in various quality, like "8/10", "7/10" but with increasing dents, scratches. Two of the 9/10 I got were flawless, while the third had a slight ding on the side below the volume button no one would ever see with a TPU case on it.
From other sellers, there are allegedly still "new" V30/V30+ inventory out there but be very careful. Some are shoddy refurbished being touted as new or outright frauds:
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Yes, the New Jersey/Hong Kong dealers sell refurbished phones and some are totally fraudulent. I returned mine and got refund because I specifically was paying for new-in-box this time.
* Was 64GB V30 in 128GB V30+ box. I paid for new US998 V30+. Wasn't new, wasn't V30+.
* had previous owner's 128GB SD card still in the phone...
* had "B&O" branded headphones -- which don't come with North America US998. If legit North American V30+, should have come with LG-branded headphones.
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ChazzMatt said:
First, I went back and edited some of my answers in this thread as it was first written in August 2018, and some information was outdated. T-mobile H932 was not rooted yet back then and the fix for H931/H933 to run AOSP ROMs was not discovered yet. Ignore any prices mentioned back then, as that was last year.
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I used that eBay seller several times and have recommended them before in other threads. Their "9/10" listing is the one to look for, like you have. That seller has other others in various quality, like "8/10", "7/10" but with increasing dents, scratches. Two of the 9/10 I got were flawless, while the third had a ding on the side below the volume button no one would ever see with a TPU case on it.
From other sellers, there are allegedly still "new" V30/V30+ inventory out there but be very careful. Some are shoddy refurbished being touted as new or outright frauds:
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Right, I figured well if it's that bad I can send it back. But it really is new condition. I've tested everything imaginable now getting ready to upgrade it to 8.0 as I wanted to make sure it was a good phone. Also if you buy the phone while eBay has it's 8% or more back even better deal!.
Hello all,
On eBay it looks like I can get one of these for ~$200 "pre-owned" so I'm thinking of maybe picking one of these up. My ZTE Axon 7 was my favorite thing ever, but my wife dropped it on concrete.
Looking at the specs it looks pretty impressive - Snapdragon 835, 4gb ram, microsd support, IP68. Since ZTE is dropping headphone jack support, the Axon 9 won't be my next pick.
It looks like all the V40 adds is the snapdragon 845, more ram, and more cameras. But for almost a grand I can't really justify it.
Thoughts? Is the development community good here? Treble working good?
I'm currently using a Nexus 6P while I wait for parts -_-
You can get"mint" (like new) for just over $300. eBay often has 15% - 20% off sales.
Best phone of 2017.
Read this experience. He had Axon 7 also! @christoophat:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/questions-buying-t3834615/page3
TPMJB said:
Hello all,
On eBay it looks like I can get one of these for ~$200 "pre-owned" so I'm thinking of maybe picking one of these up. My ZTE Axon 7 was my favorite thing ever, but my wife dropped it on concrete.
Looking at the specs it looks pretty impressive - Snapdragon 835, 4gb ram, microsd support, IP68. Since ZTE is dropping headphone jack support, the Axon 9 won't be my next pick.
It looks like all the V40 adds is the snapdragon 845, more ram, and more cameras. But for almost a grand I can't really justify it.
Thoughts? Is the development community good here? Treble working good?
I'm currently using a Nexus 6P while I wait for parts -_-
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Yes,
You can get a like new v30 for around $300 with boot loader unlocked. Or you can get a new v40 in two months for $1000 and hope you'll be able to unlock the bootloader like the v35
Interesting. I think I will take the plunge. There are a bunch of bad imei phones on eBay for less than $200. I think my carrier (red pocket wireless, an mvno for at&t) doesn't actually check imei, but you can't use a bad esn/meid phones.
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Interesting. I think I will take the plunge. There are a bunch of bad imei phones on eBay for less than $200. I think my carrier (red pocket wireless, an mvno for at&t) doesn't actually check imei, but you can't use a bad esn/meid phones.
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IMEI and MEID are used the same way.
No two devices have the same MEID number. The MEID is also called the ESN or serial number. Some phones may not have an MEID, they may instead have a IMEI number. Both have the same purpose and function the same way.
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If Red Pocket uses the same U.S. carriers blacklist database, then bad IMEI won't work. I really would encourage you to get the mint US998 or LS998 (which can be easily converted to US998) with guaranteed good IMEI/ESN, depending on which is less money at the time (prices vary).
Doesn't do you any good to get a bad IMEI phone then find out it doesn't work. The seller warned you, so you can't get a refund.
MINT US998 V30+
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...149660?hash=item28667cd81c:g:dD4AAOSwqj9beX9a
MINT LS998 V30+
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-LS9...345150?hash=item2cd8695e7e:g:P3sAAOSwWktaYPOk
Plus eBay often has "flash" site-wide sales of 15%-20% off.
@christoophat
TPMJB said:
Interesting. I think I will take the plunge. There are a bunch of bad imei phones on eBay for less than $200. I think my carrier (red pocket wireless, an mvno for at&t) doesn't actually check imei, but you can't use a bad esn/meid phones.
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I got the US998 v30+ refurbished which looks brand new with the sticker off of ebay for $294 and a coupon. The only complaint is that they sent me an ls998 convereted to US998. Although it doesn't really affect the phone, I can't use LG Bridge to get the right kdz.
You can get a new US Cellular US998 in box for $370 or something, but you'll need to find someone to sim unlock it for you (and it only has 64gb of memory compared to the US998 v30+ 128GB)
Alibaba0101 said:
I got the US998 v30+ refurbished which looks brand new with the sticker off of ebay for $294 and a coupon. The only complaint is that they sent me an ls998 convereted to US998. Although it doesn't really affect the phone, I can't use LG Bridge to get the right kdz.
You can get a new US Cellular US998 in box for $370 or something, but you'll need to find someone to sim unlock it for you (and it only has 64gb of memory compared to the US998 v30+ 128GB)
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Sim unlock isn't something you can do yourself?
Afaik IMEI flashing is still illegal even if you just use one of your other phones, so I won't ask about it here. But hypothetically speaking I would possibly use the one from this pos Nexus 6p
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Sim unlock isn't something you can do yourself?
Afaik IMEI flashing is still illegal even if you just use one of your other phones, so I won't ask about it here. But hypothetically speaking I would possibly use the one from this pos Nexus 6p
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ALL US998 are already SIM card unlocked. If you buy an LS998 you can easily convert it to US998, Which would then SIM card unlock it. This is what we used Frankenstein for in the beginning, to free the Sprint V30/V30+ and AT&T V30.
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You can get a new US Cellular US998 in box for $370 or something, but you'll need to find someone to sim unlock it for you (and it only has 64gb of memory compared to the US998 v30+ 128GB)
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U.S Cellular US998 is already SIM card unlocked, if paid for in full.
U.S. Cellular sells both v30 and the v30+.
The ebay listing for the new sealed in box us998 for US Cellular specifically says it will only work on us cellular...
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The ebay listing for the new sealed in box us998 for US Cellular specifically says it will only work on us cellular...
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Then the sellers don't know what they're talking about. We had lots of people buy the US Cellular US998 V30/V30+ models here in this forum, starting back in October when they were released. It's carrier unlocked. It's exactly the same as the Open Market US998 but isn't eligible for the "official" LG bootloader unlock code. Other than that, no difference and is not locked to any carrier, even though sold by U.S. Cellular.
That's probably generic language they use for other US Cellular phones.
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Then the sellers don't know what they're talking about. We had lots of people buy the US Cellular US998 V30/V30+ models here in this forum, starting back in October when they were released. It's carrier unlocked. It's exactly the same as the Open Market US998 but isn't eligible for the "official" LG bootloader unlock code. Other than that, no difference and is not locked to any carrier, even though sold by U.S. Cellular.
That's probably generic language they use for other US Cellular phones.
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I thought CDMA phones couldn't be used on GSM networks though? So if I were to use an MVNO for AT&T, I'd need a T-mobile/AT&T device - I couldn't use US Cellular, Sprint, or VZW devices. Or am I old and this is no longer a thing?
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I thought CDMA phones couldn't be used on GSM networks though? So if I were to use an MVNO for AT&T, I'd need a T-mobile/AT&T device - I couldn't use US Cellular, Sprint, or VZW devices. Or am I old and this is no longer a thing?
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You're driving me crazy. US998 V30/V30+ is what you want. It doesn't matter where you buy it from or if you even buy another variant and CONVERT it to US998. But US998 V30/V30+ is what you want for what you describe. US998 is the also the ONLY North America variant with fastboot flash commands, which is why for WTF bootloader unlock/TWRP/ROOT for any North American carriers you have to convert the other carrier phone to US998. It's easier if you already have one -- that's one less step.
US998 is NOT a CDMA only phone, it's THE carrier unlocked phone for ALL carriers from LG. It has all the HSPA/LTE bands -- and yes CDMA bands -- of all the North American carriers. Because it IS the official carrier unlocked phone which can be used on any carrier.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS(HSPA): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
Since U.S. Cellular is distant (and I mean very distant) 5th sized carrier in the U.S., LG does not make a dedicated variant for them like AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-mobile. LG lets this tiny carrier sell the carrier unlocked model and pretend it's their variant. Then, a couple of months later, LG sells the EXACT SAME PHONE as the "Open Market" carrier unlocked phone through authorized third party retailers like B&H Photo and Best Buy.
I bought three of these US998 from B&H Photo -- two V30 and one V30+, to use on AT&T.https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/LG_V30+_vs_LG_V30/BHitems/1379518-REG_1357369-REG
I later bought two "mint" Sprint LS998 V30+ off eBay, CONVERTED them to US998 and am using them on AT&T.
So, I've bought 5 of these phones -- either as original US998 or converted to US998 -- and they are all running on AT&T. The US998 IS THE CARRIER UNLOCKED MODEL FOR ALL OF NORTH AMERICA. Don't let the fact U.S. Cellular also sells it warp your brain. Many entities sell the US998. Yes, when US998 sold by B&H Photo through LG, it's the "official" carrier unlocked model, but when sold by U.S. Cellular it's the "unofficial" carrier unlocked model. No difference, except the B&H Photo V30 are eligible for official bootloader unlock code (which we no longer need with WTF method).
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But even taking your question at face value -- have you bought a smartphone in the past 3 or 4 years? Even the "CDMA" carriers (Sprint and Verizon) phones also have GSM/HSPA/LTE bands. All Verizon "postpaid" (contract) phones since 2012 are carrier unlocked and have HSPA and some LTE bands of their competitors, because the FCC made them. Even the Sprint LS998 has most of the HSPA/LTE bands, for when Sprint occasionally does let you unlock the phone to use on other carriers. Even in 2014, people were using the Verizon Droid Turbo on AT&T and T-mobile. It was carrier unlocked (by order of FCC), and had the major AT&T/T-mobile GSM/HSPA/LTE bands.
See this website below for bands. For the US998 above, I am quoting directly from LG website. If you convert any other North America variant to the US998 you will have carrier unlocked phone with all those bands.
LG V30 Model Numbers (H930DS, H930K, H931, H933, V300 S/K/L, LS998, VS996, H930G, H930, VS996, H932, US998) Differences
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
EDIT: Tech Walls has mostly correct specs, but good to compare. The US998 specs posted above are directly from LG website. Some phones may have more bands than listed on LG website, but you know they will have all bands listed on LG (manufacturer) website.
The North America phones UNLOCKED out of box are:
* US998,
* AS998 (basically same as US998, but sold by regional carriers)
* Canadian H933 and
* Verizon VS996.
BUT US998 is the ONLY one that also has fastboot flash commands.
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You're driving me crazy. US998 V30/V30+ is what you want. It doesn't matter where you buy it from or if you even buy another variant and CONVERT it to US998. But US998 V30/V30+ is what you want for what you describe. US998 is the also the ONLY North America variant with fastboot flash commands, which is why for WTF bootloader unlock/TWRP/ROOT for any North American carriers you have to convert the other carrier phone to US998. It's easier if you already have one -- that's one less step.
LG V30 Model Numbers (H930DS, H930K, H931, H933, V300 S/K/L, LS998, VS996, H930G, H930, VS996, H932, US998) Differences
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
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The techwalls site is not completely correct however. The US998 does not support band 30.
Alibaba0101 said:
The techwalls site is not completely correct however. The US998 does not support band 30.
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Yes, that's why I specified I was quoting straight from LG for those US998 specs, and gave the link. I felt I was already overwhelming with information. The tech walls site is mostly correct for the others.
The North America phones carrier UNLOCKED out of box are:
* US998,
* AS998 (basically same as US998, but sold by regional carriers)
* Canadian H933 and
* Verizon VS996.
Some have more or less bands than others. US998 and AS998 seems most complete. BUT US998 is the ONLY one that also has fastboot flash commands, which is why it's King.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
If we've learned anything from the past 1-2 years, LG phone prices will fall pretty hard after 4-6 months. I mean the LG G7 came out in May. That's 4 months ago and the price already dropped by 300$ where I live. That's insane.
But, knowing that LG will do that, it also means that it wouldn't make a lot of sense buying an LG40 when it has just been released. Because ~4 months later it will probably significantly drop in price too...
So my advice would be, if you need a phone right now: The v30 is amazing. It never lags. It has amazing audio. The battery lasts forever. No notch bull****, beautiful design... It even does VR very well. I mean what more do you want? But if you can hold out a little longer and want something fresh, wait for the v40 to come out and drop in price.
Of course this is only true if money is a factor for you! Otherwise wait for the v40 to come out and then base your decision on the feature set v30 vs. v40. The v40 doesn't automatically have to be better... It could have a notch and i hate those things
Bought a Sprint version for 150 and flashed unlocked room for tmobile and work without any issue.
300 and understand go for it.
ChazzMatt said:
But even taking your question at face value -- have you bought a smartphone in the past 3 or 4 years?
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Uhhh...lol not really. My current phone with the cracked screen is a ZTE Axon 7. Before that I had the Nexus 5x and before that I had a Samsung Relay, aka the last keyboard phone in existence. The Nexus 5x was a google Fi variant and the relay was T Mobile. My ZTE Axon 7 was "unlocked" when I bought it off craigslist.
Generally I'm new to GSM. Before the Relay I did a lot of modifying CDMA phones since I had Verizon.
Edit: Is this "notch" that everyone is *****ing about the part of the phone case that kind of...interrupts the top of the phone screen? Yeah, it is kind of ugly.
TPMJB said:
Uhhh...lol not really. My current phone with the cracked screen is a ZTE Axon 7. Before that I had the Nexus 5x and before that I had a Samsung Relay, aka the last keyboard phone in existence. The Nexus 5x was a google Fi variant and the relay was T Mobile. My ZTE Axon 7 was "unlocked" when I bought it off craigslist.
Generally I'm new to GSM. Before the Relay I did a lot of modifying CDMA phones since I had Verizon.
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The ZTE Axon 7 is a good example. It has also CDMA bands and works on Verizon. Even has Verizon VoLTE. But it's not CDMA- only phone, of course. It just happens to ALSO have CDMA bands, in addition to GSM/HSPA/LTE.
It's called all-carrier unlocked phone like the US998.
Google Pixel phones sold by Verizon are a better example. They are identical to the Pixel phones sold by Google in specs, just are not eligible for bootloader unlock. They will work on any carrier. US998 sold by US Cellular is identical in specs and being carrier unlocked to US998 sold by other retailers, just not eligible for the "official" bootloader unlock" code (which we don't need anymore anyway, thanks to WTF). US998 is not CDMA-ONLY and it's not locked to any carrier, especially US Cellular.
ChazzMatt said:
The ZTE Axon 7 is a good example. It has also CDMA bands and works on Verizon. Even has Verizon VoLTE. But it's not CDMA- only phone, of course. It just happens to ALSO have CDMA bands, in addition to GSM/HSPA/LTE.
It's called all-carrier unlocked phone like the US998.
Google Pixel phones sold by Verizon are a better example. They are identical to the Pixel phones sold by Google in specs, just are not eligible for bootloader unlock. They will work on any carrier. US998 sold by US Cellular is identical in specs and being carrier unlocked to US998 sold by other retailers, just not eligible for the "official" bootloader unlock" code (which we don't need anymore anyway, thanks to WTF). US998 is not CDMA-ONLY and it's not locked to any carrier, especially US Cellular.
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Learn somethin new every day, thanks!
I've decided getting a "bad IMEI" phone and "repairing" it isn't really worth the $80 price difference on eBay (Plus my key of CDMA workshop only works on Windows XP,) so I think I'll wait till the v40 launch if I can't get one under $200. For specs the V30 is definitely a solid phone! I just can't necessarily justify it when I paid $100 for an LCD to repair my ZTE.
But if I snag it under $200, I've justified it
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Learn somethin new every day, thanks!
I've decided getting a "bad IMEI" phone and "repairing" it isn't really worth the $80 price difference on eBay (Plus my key of CDMA workshop only works on Windows XP,) so I think I'll wait till the v40 launch if I can't get one under $200. For specs the V30 is definitely a solid phone! I just can't necessarily justify it when I paid $100 for an LCD to repair my ZTE.
But if I snag it under $200, I've justified it
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Don't forget if you sell your ZTE axon 7 you'll get some money to make up the difference.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+