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Im debating leaving my 4S for android again and to me in terms of looks and features this and the one x look the best, now advantages this has over the x is 32gb internal (US version of x), 4.3 vs 4.7 (4.7 is huge!) and not sure what else, both sense 4 and xperia ui look great, both look awesome in design, both are dual core, both have fast data speeds and stuff like that. As for the one x it has only 16gb vs 32gb on the xperia s but the one x has LTE on att.
Anyway, for those of you with the XS, what are your thoughts overall? Happy with your purchase?
I'm interested in the Xperia S as well.
I will tell you I had a Euro HTC One X last month and sold it. The phone was very buggy. Not just a few but enough to make me sell it. Size wise it was fine, yes big and I have a iPhone 4S as well.
The AT&T version looked good, but I was just reading that users are only getting about 9 gigs after all the bloat wear and apps on the phone. Just not enough IMO.
So I'm temped to get the Xperia, no ICS, but the UI looks good and a good Launcher won't matter.
I like the camera features, though the One X had a few better features, like taking a pic while recording video.
Anyway any AT&T users of this phone, what's the verdict?
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I'm interested in the Xperia S as well.
I will tell you I had a Euro HTC One X last month and sold it. The phone was very buggy. Not just a few but enough to make me sell it. Size wise it was fine, yes big and I have a iPhone 4S as well.
The AT&T version looked good, but I was just reading that users are only getting about 9 gigs after all the bloat wear and apps on the phone. Just not enough IMO.
So I'm temped to get the Xperia, no ICS, but the UI looks good and a good Launcher won't matter.
I like the camera features, though the One X had a few better features, like taking a pic while recording video.
Anyway any AT&T users of this phone, what's the verdict?
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Hmm, interesting. I can always stay iphone as well, I have many apps and im sure the IP5 will have a nice res 4" screen, lte, better proc etc AND tons of memory (64gb ftw!), and say what you will but apple build quality is always A+
bothfly said:
I'm interested in the Xperia S as well.
I will tell you I had a Euro HTC One X last month and sold it. The phone was very buggy. Not just a few but enough to make me sell it. Size wise it was fine, yes big and I have a iPhone 4S as well.
The AT&T version looked good, but I was just reading that users are only getting about 9 gigs after all the bloat wear and apps on the phone. Just not enough IMO.
So I'm temped to get the Xperia, no ICS, but the UI looks good and a good Launcher won't matter.
I like the camera features, though the One X had a few better features, like taking a pic while recording video.
Anyway any AT&T users of this phone, what's the verdict?
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Taking pics while shooting video is an ICS thing. HTC is trying hard to make it their killer feature, but it actually isn't.
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For me personally having tested the one x as well, the xperia is a much better phone.
The two front runners are the xperia and the galaxy S3.
The one x has all the bells and whistles but fails to deliver, the galaxy S3 has doggy looks but delivers a great user experience while the xperia looks the best but only really delivers for the mainstream user. It's not a phone for the hardcore who always want the latest cutting edge specs.
All these phones are much much better than the toyish iPhone. Apple's problem isn't hardware but software. IOS is still just basically an app launcher and I don't believe that'll change much with IOS6.
Steve jobs stuck to the line that fluidity was better than sophistication. Google on the other hand opted for sophistication knowing fully well that hardware would catch up. Google have won there just as Microsoft did in the nineties.
IOS is so inferior to android that I just can't see them closing the huge gulf that exists between both platforms in only a year. Software wise Apple are behind and will always stay behind because of a philosophy that failed them against Microsoft and is certain to fail them again today.
Overall I'd say get the xperia. ICS hopefully will see the phone really shine bright.
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For me personally having tested the one x as well, the xperia is a much better phone.
The two front runners are the xperia and the galaxy S3.
The one x has all the bells and whistles but fails to deliver, the galaxy S3 has doggy looks but delivers a great user experience while the xperia looks the best but only really delivers for the mainstream user. It's not a phone for the hardcore who always want the latest cutting edge specs.
All these phones are much much better than the toyish iPhone. Apple's problem isn't hardware but software. IOS is still just basically an app launcher and I don't believe that'll change much with IOS6.
Steve jobs stuck to the line that fluidity was better than sophistication. Google on the other hand opted for sophistication knowing fully well that hardware would catch up. Google have won there just as Microsoft did in the nineties.
IOS is so inferior to android that I just can't see them closing the huge gulf that exists between both platforms in only a year. Software wise Apple are behind and will always stay behind because of a philosophy that failed them against Microsoft and is certain to fail them again today.
Overall I'd say get the xperia. ICS hopefully will see the phone really shine bright.
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Personally for what I do with my phones I see them as pretty similar, its when I start wanting to do stuff like moves files on the phone, apps arent as open in what they can do with the file system and you can basiclly customize anything in android, beyond that to call an iphone a toy is ridiculous, it can do mostly everything android can except some features when you start digging deep, in the end its all about what you need, I consider myself a pretty big tech guy and I rarely run into a situation where Im like "Oh man I REALLY wish I had and android right now!" only times are when using the crappy youtube app (guess why lol), maps could be better, and random scenarios when doing file management stuff.
And yea the GS3 has great specs but but ugly! Like...really ugly lol
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Personally for what I do with my phones I see them as pretty similar, its when I start wanting to do stuff like moves files on the phone, apps arent as open in what they can do with the file system and you can basiclly customize anything in android, beyond that to call an iphone a toy is ridiculous, it can do mostly everything android can except some features when you start digging deep, in the end its all about what you need, I consider myself a pretty big tech guy and I rarely run into a situation where Im like "Oh man I REALLY wish I had and android right now!" only times are when using the crappy youtube app (guess why lol), maps could be better, and random scenarios when doing file management stuff.
And yea the GS3 has great specs but but ugly! Like...really ugly lol
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Even you yourself have in your response, highlighted quite a few instances where android either can while the iPhone can't or where android can just do it better.
I suggest to you that there are a lot of these instances, and that's right through the operating system. Android carries out most functions in fewer steps than IOS and is more intuitive in just as many ways.
The iPhone like I said, is just an app launcher and that's the stuff of 5yrs ago.
Hand held computing is much more than that now.
The iPhone is what it is, just another 'must have' joker, a status symbol, a very bold neon sign that says ' hey look at me, I'm the man you see in the place to be'.
There you will find the reason for its success and nowhere else.
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My 2 pennies worth.
I don't like Apple, never have and never will for various reasons.
As far as the one x, used one for few hours last week and hated it. It is just full of bugs, too many annoyances to list here. I tried it as I was offered one at a good price, but decided to stick with my XperiaS.
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One x on ATT is boot loader locked, great mobile tho and I'd get that version not the Tegra3.
I'd still get the xperia s over both of them tho as I did
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Even you yourself have in your response, highlighted quite a few instances where android either can while the iPhone can't or where android can just do it better.
I suggest to you that there are a lot of these instances, and that's right through the operating system. Android carries out most functions in fewer steps than IOS and is more intuitive in just as many ways.
The iPhone like I said, is just an app launcher and that's the stuff of 5yrs ago.
Hand held computing is much more than that now.
The iPhone is what it is, just another 'must have' joker, a status symbol, a very bold neon sign that says ' hey look at me, I'm the man you see in the place to be'.
There you will find the reason for its success and nowhere else.
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Eh, we all have opinions, I like the simplicity and integration of apple combined with its top notch hardware, and I find Android to be a bit all over the place at times, for me they both have their pros and cons and I can use either, now WP7, thats a different story, I have tried it twice and just cant use it, the font and overall style is amazing and it does something things that "just make sense" when you think about it, but then it does things or misses features where it leaves you scratching your head, that combined with the fact that the app slection sucks and the hardware is pretty sub par, wp7 overall leaves much to be desired but has big potential if some major changes are done.
For now I'll wait for the IP5 and see what it offers, if disappointing I'll go android. As of now Im happy with my 4S.
Symbian also wasnt actually too bad! Just SO slow due to bad specs and like 10 apps lol, other then that it was great on my old Nokia's, and WM was alsmot the same in those aspects aswell imo, great potential but the OS was so slow due to low ram and weak proc, they were ahead of their time, but when the time came it was too late.
Yes symbian was very functional. It just lacked the fluidity and the presence of android. Android just like windows will become almost ubiquitous within 10 years.
It's Google's alternative to Windows. Understand that and you'll understand where it's going.
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Yes symbian was very functional. It just lacked the fluidity and the presence of android. Android just like windows will become almost ubiquitous within 10 years.
It's Google's alternative to Windows. Understand that and you'll understand where it's going.
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Competition is good, it forces everyone to step up their games, hopefully apple can impress with IOS6 and lets see if MS can turn around WP sales with an updated WP fixing the missing features and what not.
Please, lets stop saying "the Iphone can do what android can" and just face the facts. My droid can share files ota easily, run programs that can remotely control computers, etc... My sister has a hard time transferings songs from her mac book to her iphone... Enough said.
I am already planning on getting an xperia S. The choices I was facing was either the SGS3, ONE X and Xperia S. I was a bit dissapointed with SE last year when I got my NEO V because the hardware specs werent that competitive(single core 1ghz, 512 ram, 420mb storage). When xperia s came out it was a large step from what they had last 2011. I was thinking of shifting to samsung for the s3 but after I saw how ugly it is, it was safe to assume that im going with sony again. I never did like htc because of its crappy QC and sub-standard build quality.
I have to give to Sony though...their phones really are sexy. Aesthetically, it looks top class. Even the UI is one of the best around.
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Please, lets stop saying "the Iphone can do what android can" and just face the facts. My droid can share files ota easily, run programs that can remotely control computers, etc... My sister has a hard time transferings songs from her mac book to her iphone... Enough said.
I am already planning on getting an xperia S. The choices I was facing was either the SGS3, ONE X and Xperia S. I was a bit dissapointed with SE last year when I got my NEO V because the hardware specs werent that competitive(single core 1ghz, 512 ram, 420mb storage). When xperia s came out it was a large step from what they had last 2011. I was thinking of shifting to samsung for the s3 but after I saw how ugly it is, it was safe to assume that im going with sony again. I never did like htc because of its crappy QC and sub-standard build quality.
I have to give to Sony though...their phones really are sexy. Aesthetically, it looks top class. Even the UI is one of the best around.
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You are right Android can do more then iphone but the majority of iphone users could care less about that stuff so its a moot point for them, all they care about is playing music, web, phone, text, apps, just the basic stuff which iphone does exceptionally well, honestly thats all I use my phone for. Most iphone users dont care about cores, ram, and stuff like that, thats what many seem to not understand. All I want is a quad core and bigger screen on iphone which im sure the 5 will.
Exactly! Its like comparing apples with oranges...each has its own purpose.
Me personally, I needed a phone that can double as my pc and laptop at the same time... I do a lot on it; edit files, remotely controling my pc at home, viewing wifi cams at home, works as an extension for other devices, etc. I need a phone that can do more than just play music and other basic stuff.
When I saw the xperia S camera specs, I figured I need more now. I travel a lot and take tons of photos for personal and work purposes... This means I dont have to carry my camera all the time.
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hope the decision was a good one.....have had it for a few days........used s4 for about an hour in the store, and HTC One in the store........
rep at att store said: "Are you crazy?" ie: his way of sayign s4 for life.
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hope the decision was a good one.....have had it for a few days........used s4 for about an hour in the store, and HTC One in the store........
rep at att store said: "Are you crazy?" ie: his way of sayign s4 for life.
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Went from a iPhone 4 to the One and I don't regret it a single bit. Only tying I miss is the huge selection of great iPhone themes there are. Android community definitely isn't even close to how the jailbreak theme in community does. But themeing is just so much easier on iOS than android. All images and you could toggle things on and off. Immensely different process on android. Functionality is worth it though. And the Ones UI is absolutely amazing already.
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Went from a iPhone 4 to the One and I don't regret it a single bit. Only tying I miss is the huge selection of great iPhone themes there are. Android community definitely isn't even close to how the jailbreak theme in community does. But themeing is just so much easier on iOS than android. All images and you could toggle things on and off. Immensely different process on android. Functionality is worth it though. And the Ones UI is absolutely amazing already.
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Wat, no.
You're too new to make broad general statements like that about a mod community you are barely familiar with. There are far more themes for Android, and the updates to things like Widget Locker, all of our launchers, UCCW, make it far superior to Winterboard or any of it's replacements.
I think you are still to familiar with iphone modding to make statements like that. Sorry to be so blunt.
Example:
http://mycolorscreen.com/2013/05/02/tiles-4-0/
http://mycolorscreen.com/2013/05/02/simple-screen-21/
I would agree that homescreen and lockscreens are definitely far superior by a long shot. I should have specified that I meant UI wise. I've already made my own concepts for homescreens in photoshop I plan on creating them through all the great homescreen and lockscreen applications that can bring it to life. Winterboard wins over in themeing UI and simple icons. I don't consider lockscreen and homescreen set ups themes. I'm talking about icon to icon, UI to UI. Which is definitely superior when it comes to Winterboard. This is why I talked about loving the HTC one UI so much because that's what I was really talking about. I definitely prefer my homescreen set ups on android though. Far more creativity.
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Went from a iPhone 4 to the One and I don't regret it a single bit. Only tying I miss is the huge selection of great iPhone themes there are. Android community definitely isn't even close to how the jailbreak theme in community does. But themeing is just so much easier on iOS than android. All images and you could toggle things on and off. Immensely different process on android. Functionality is worth it though. And the Ones UI is absolutely amazing already.
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I would agree that homescreen and lockscreens are definitely far superior by a long shot. I should have specified that I meant UI wise. I've already made my own concepts for homescreens in photoshop I plan on creating them through all the great homescreen and lockscreen applications that can bring it to life. Winterboard wins over in themeing UI and simple icons. I don't consider lockscreen and homescreen set ups themes. I'm talking about icon to icon, UI to UI. Which is definitely superior when it comes to Winterboard. This is why I talked about loving the HTC one UI so much because that's what I was really talking about. I definitely prefer my homescreen set ups on android though. Far more creativity.
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They have full themes that you can download that reskisn the entire phone, including all the dialers, menus, buttons, fonts, icons, etc. It's not like it's not there, it's just people who make it and generally distribute it for free. Winterboard was just a commercialized repository that became the most successful. It's ease of use is what plagues iPhones as being generally simple and boring anyways. Plus, in my own experience with Winterboard, it was buggy as **** and slowed the phone down considerably when it was asked to do something it didn't like.
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They have full themes that you can download that reskisn the entire phone, including all the dialers, menus, buttons, fonts, icons, etc. It's not like it's not there, it's just people who make it and generally distribute it for free. Winterboard was just a commercialized repository that became the most successful. It's ease of use is what plagues iPhones as being generally simple and boring anyways. Plus, in my own experience with Winterboard, it was buggy as **** and slowed the phone down considerably when it was asked to do something it didn't like.
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All I've seen are color mods and such. Nothing major. If you could point me in the right direction that would be nice. And I don't see how Winterboard being easy to use is a "plague." That's why there are so many good themes for it. Also it's not a repository, just a MS add on. Repositories can host themes but Winterboard it's self is just the themeing engine. Also the slow down was only really there on old devices. Had no problems on my 4 and it's nearly 3 years old. And I've never experienced bugs besides there being a summerboard bug, but even in the app it says summerboard is the ancient way of themeing and is slow. Ever since iOS 4 I've never had an issue with Winterboard. It's easy to use and the fact that it's the only themeing engine and isn't fragmented, there are huge amounts of good themes. Of course the themeing never made up for the functionality that Android had which is why I wanted to switch.
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IPhone is crap! Android is the best and the one is awesome.
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IPhone is crap! Android is the best and the one is awesome.
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I respect both platforms for what they are but I prefer Android. Though I would never use an iPhone if not jailbroken. Believe it or not its not that bad if jailbroken. I still prefer the ease of tweaking that iOS has by a long shot (no flashing roms or zips and you don't need an app icon for every single tweak you get off the playstore with has been really irritating). Also the fact that its 100% impossible to brick an iPhone no matter what you may have heard or think. I'd rather not fanboy over one side. I fell in love with the One since I ever laid my eyes on it. Honestly any phone before the One I wouldn't have ever even considered looking at besides an iPhone. Even the S4 I wouldn't have even looked at. The One is perfect in every single way I believe. Not a single complaint besides the overhangs I have on my device which I don't mind too much. I could complain about Android just as much as I could complain about iOS though. I'm finally glad I'm able to see both sides through first hand account so I know what I'm talking about. My opinions have changed about both platforms after getting the One but I still think they are both great platforms.
The real question i think is Samsung S4 or HTC One ...
I prefere Android Platform ...
I'll never understand when people say flat out that iPhones suck. They don't. They may not be your cup of tea, but they are great products that cater to a specific group of people. I've owned the 4s (which I actually loved) and the 5 (not so much) in between various Androids. While there is no question that I prefer Android, iOS does have its merits. They are easy to use (for a layman/soccer mom), well built, and Apple has HANDS DOWN the best support in the industry. Lets not forget that iOS gaming is light years beyond Android. That said, I couldn't get rid of my iPhone 5 fast enough and it feels great to be back on Android. I am keeping my 5 as a back up phone though.
The HTC One is IMO the first Android device ever that can compete with and even best the iPhone in terms of build and design. There is nothing else like it on the market. The GS4 is nice but sorry, it's a piece of plastic. The One is elegant, sophisticated, and plain BAD ASS.
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I'll never understand when people say flat out that iPhones suck. They don't. They may not be your cup of tea, but they are great products that cater to a specific group of people. I've owned the 4s (which I actually loved) and the 5 (not so much) in between various Androids. While there is no question that I prefer Android, iOS does have its merits. They are easy to use (for a layman/soccer mom), well built, and Apple has HANDS DOWN the best support in the industry. Lets not forget that iOS gaming is light years beyond Android. That said, I couldn't get rid of my iPhone 5 fast enough and it feels great to be back on Android. I am keeping my 5 as a back up phone though.
The HTC One is IMO the first Android device ever that can compete with and even best the iPhone in terms of build and design. There is nothing else like it on the market. The GS4 is nice but sorry, it's a piece of plastic. The One is elegant, sophisticated, and plain BAD ASS.
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I'm glad not all android users are narrow minded. Very well said. All I ever see is android fan boys saying iPhone is the worst thing ever and apple fan boys saying android is the worst thing ever. Nice meeting people who are objective about the subject.
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Coming from the iPhone 3, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and iPhone 5, the HTC One is the closest thing to the iPhone experience I've seen so far. I tried out the Galaxy s4 and within a week, took it back.
The iPhone experience is very well polished and catered to older people and less tech savvy people. The truth, however, is that I started to get bored with the iPhone. I've still got my iPhone 5 and I do hope that iOS 7 brings some new features to the iPhone to compete with Android, but I just don't see it happening. The HTC One is my first Android phone I've owned and so far it feels more like a jailbroken iPhone.
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I'm glad not all android users are narrow minded. Very well said. All I ever see is android fan boys saying iPhone is the worst thing ever and apple fan boys saying android is the worst thing ever. Nice meeting people who are objective about the subject.
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I just like cool toys, no matter what logo is on them It really is awesome not being tied down to one specific brand or ecosystem. Liberating even. I'm that way with everything. Been an Android guy since it first came out, still owned iPhones. I have a Nexus 7 and an iPad Mini, haven't touched the N7 since getting the Mini. I was born with a Ford motor for a heart, but just bought a badass Dodge Challenger. Grew up with Windows computers only, but my MacBook Pro is my primary personal computer. I honestly feel bad for people who are too closed minded to see positives in products that they wouldn't normally buy. And every time somebody uses the term iSheep I roll my eyes- is it not more sheepish to jump on a blind iOS/Apple hating bandwagon than people using the iPhone because it fits their needs more than an Android? I think so! Oh well, their loss.
htc one should compare with iPhone 5 .that is fair.
Iphone is only good for women in my opinion specifically teenage women. They seem to criticize their phone for doing something "stupid" when it was their fault. Remember guys it's never the tech, it's always the user
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Believe it or not its not that bad if jailbroken. My opinions have changed about both platforms after getting the One but I still think they are both great platforms.
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I couldn't agree with you more. I have owned every iPhone since the original (except the 5) and just got my first Android last week. My new job requires me to test our mobile apps on all devices and I kept finding that I was pretty lost when it came to Android so I decided to get this phone and master the OS.
I've been going through some growing pains, no doubt. There were times I wanted to take it back just from sheer frustration. My jailbroken 4S was a thing of beauty, configured with all the apps needed to do EVERYTHING. Having to start from scratch and re-learn how to do things on a new platform is painful. But I'm not a quitter and I'm going to stick with my One. In all honesty, I'm liking it better and better every day.
But it's weird...I picked-up my 4S today after not having held it in days and it was...euphoric. I was like a crack-addict that had found some free blow after having quit cold-turkey. The 3.5-inch screen might be considered small, but it just feels so perfect in the hand.
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I couldn't agree with you more. I have owned every iPhone since the original (except the 5) and just got my first Android last week. My new job requires me to test our mobile apps on all devices and I kept finding that I was pretty lost when it came to Android so I decided to get this phone and master the OS.
I've been going through some growing pains, no doubt. There were times I wanted to take it back just from sheer frustration. My jailbroken 4S was a thing of beauty, configured with all the apps needed to do EVERYTHING. Having to start from scratch and re-learn how to do things on a new platform is painful. But I'm not a quitter and I'm going to stick with my One. In all honesty, I'm liking it better and better every day.
But it's weird...I picked-up my 4S today after not having held it in days and it was...euphoric. I was like a crack-addict that had found some free blow after having quit cold-turkey. The 3.5-inch screen might be considered small, but it just feels so perfect in the hand.
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Agreed. My jailbroken iPhone 5 is just about perfect for me, but I like the larger screen size of the One and the word wrap in the browser.
I have 4S, the 5 sucks and One is prettier anyway so my Dec edition is on the way.
Goog thing
In fact it's a good thing to change for the ONE :good:
I'm still on the fence as to whether I should return the one and wait for the next iphone. I admit one of the reasons is because apple has pretty much ball-and-chained me with imessage. I refuse to pay at&t $20 for their one and only text plan so I'm on pay-per-use text now. Since most of my friends/family are on ios texting was pretty much free for the most part. Now I'm getting hit left and right with old school SMS each of which I need to pay for.
Also, for a few days after getting the one I could not receive any messages from friends that use imessage until I figured out how to deregister all my ios devices from apple.
The battery life on the one is also a bit disappointing compared to the 4s.
As for the screen, most of you prefer larger screens but like furious0331 mentioned, people who are used to iphones will find the larger android screens a bit difficult to adjust to. We're used to using our phones with one hand without having to awkwardly shift it in our palms to reach parts of the screen. Still have 10 more days to decided.
Sorry if I sound like I'm trolling. Just expressing my honest thoughts on the one coming from ios. Up until recently I always though android was an inferior mobile OS but that's obviously not the case anymore.
I wish I had an iphone. All I have is a galaxy s6 and the LG g5 doesnt look too good. If it was a iPhone e it would be Considered great. Who how is better android of apple and shy?
It's subjective, they both have pros and cons.
I prefer Android as it offers more freedom and customization. IPhone lacks any kind of customization and with the very limited color selection, you end up with the exact same phone and layout as half the planet. The lack of homescreen widgets is also a negative.
The only real benefits to an IPhone, for me, are that Apple doesn't cater to carriers and let them bloat the phone with their bloatware/custom UI's, which leads to the second benefit of immediate updates. I also like that they support all bands, so you don't need to buy a new device when jumping carriers.
There is no best with phones. There is only better for you. Some users (like myself) prefer android. It allows me to customize and do things I cannot on the iPhone. Some users love the UI of iOS and love how simple it is and hate android because of how complex it can be. I find the best way to make a ex iPhone user happy with android is to go Nexus. It is similar in simplicity and provides a familiar ease. My wife just did that and she hated android before but not loves it with her Nexus 5X.
Really it depends on the person. These debates can be irrelevant and get heated for no reason because people will argue points that are better for them and not the other person in the debate. I find as time passes the gap between iOS and android is closing in. The non-stock android devices are becoming closer to stock and slimming down their skins and it is helping iOS users to come over. I have owned a lot of iOS and Android devices (see my signature) but eventually I find the iPhone to be boring and want more features. But once again the features that I use and the features that you use will differ so there is no reason for me to state android is better.
I do think that Apple really needs to shake up the market. They have been dry the last couple of years and allowed android to take off with the market. They could easily lock up the market permanently if they just add some of the features android users love (quick charge, front facing speakers, slimmer bezels, larger batteries, wireless charging and the list goes on)
This is my unbiased opinion, hope it helps
If you wish you had an iPhone, get an iPhone.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
There is no best with phones. There is only better for you. Some users (like myself) prefer android. It allows me to customize and do things I cannot on the iPhone. Some users love the UI of iOS and love how simple it is and hate android because of how complex it can be. I find the best way to make a ex iPhone user happy with android is to go Nexus. It is similar in simplicity and provides a familiar ease. My wife just did that and she hated android before but not loves it with her Nexus 5X.
Really it depends on the person. These debates can be irrelevant and get heated for no reason because people will argue points that are better for them and not the other person in the debate. I find as time passes the gap between iOS and android is closing in. The non-stock android devices are becoming closer to stock and slimming down their skins and it is helping iOS users to come over. I have owned a lot of iOS and Android devices (see my signature) but eventually I find the iPhone to be boring and want more features. But once again the features that I use and the features that you use will differ so there is no reason for me to state android is better.
I do think that Apple really needs to shake up the market. They have been dry the last couple of years and allowed android to take off with the market. They could easily lock up the market permanently if they just add some of the features android users love (quick charge, front facing speakers, slimmer bezels, larger batteries, wireless charging and the list goes on)
This is my unbiased opinion, hope it helps
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Everyone that I know says that their iphone is better. The iphone does look nice and it is faster and doesn't lag or get stuck like android phones do. It also has better features and I would buy one but i can't afford the iphone.
Dgball40 said:
Everyone that I know says that their iphone is better. The iphone does look nice and it is faster and doesn't lag or get stuck like android phones do. It also has better features and I would buy one but i can't afford the iphone.
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It doesn't matter what "everyone" says... I know a lot of people who would disagree with your "everyone". By the statement you made and my comment above , clearly if they own an iPhone then they prefer iOS to android and it is better for them. But it does not mean it is better for everyone. My 6P and my wife's 5X do not have any lag. In fact I had more lag on my iPhone 6 than I have on these devices. So you may buy an iPhone and still get frustrated with issues. My wife's iPhone had issue after issues which led her to get an android after everything lagged and would crash.
Well either save up and buy one or sell your phone and buy an older iPhone. I do not get the point of this thread if you asked for which is better but then you stated you have already made up your mind. This thread is irrelevant now unless your plan was to public state how you think iOS is better. I have owned many iPhones in my life and I have never had a better phone than my 6P. It is crazy fast and handles any task I toss at it. Future android phones will be similar.
EDIT: oh @Dgball40 I will admit that the S6 is a laggy mess with horrible battery life so if you are judging your android experience on that phone try a real phone.
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These debates can be irrelevant and get heated for no reason because people will argue points that are better for them and not the other person in the debate..
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This guy nailed it.
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Like many of you, I was extremely disappointed to see what Google had to show us last night!
With the Pixel as the new Google phone and Google's decision to discontinue the Nexus series, Google clearly wants to appeal more to the masses, while it also means that the Nexus owners probably will experience less support from Google, primarily in terms of the lag of software updates...
This leaves a few questions I find it interesting to discuss; What will the future bring for Google, will they finally be a competitor to Apple and what will happen to the existing Nexus phones, will we be left in the dark?
This thread is meant to be a place to discuss and a place ti share your frustrations/excitement!
1,2,3... Go!
Pixel will be dead in few months, lets see what google will cook next.
Personally, after many years, I'm done with google.
Although I also think it's very likely there will be no more Nexus phones (though there are rumors of another Nexus tablet), has Google outright said there won't be any more?
I could imagine/hope that next year they reveal another Nexus device (maybe in the spring), then another Pixel device in the fall. They'd have the best of both worlds at that point. Nexus for the android enthusiasts, and Pixel for... the "former Apple enthusiasts and now Google enthusiasts"?
I don't know... that's just what I hope. All I know now is that I'm not switching from my 6P for a while.
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Pixel will be dead in few months, lets see what google will cook next.
Personally, after many years, I'm done with google.
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I feel the same way but the thing is that I don't know where to go instead... I don't like any other android manufacturers
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I feel the same way but the thing is that I don't know where to go instead... I don't like any other android manufacturers
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ZTE Axon. Same screen as Pixel XL from Samsung, 820, OIS, same Pixel VR support, front facing speakers, better 32 bit DAC, all metal build, better looking, smaller bezels, overall a much better phone than Pixel starting at $399
zymphad said:
ZTE Axon. Same screen as Pixel XL from Samsung, 820, OIS, same Pixel VR support, front facing speakers, better 32 bit DAC, all metal build, better looking, smaller bezels, overall a much better phone than Pixel starting at $399
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But you don't get the Siri clone, or the 24 hour customer support with screen sharing.
Personally , At the moment, I don't see myself spending that pile of money for the new Pixel. Already been saying that today. Sound outrageous to me to pay at least 650$ for a 5" device with quicker shutter speed and an additional 1G of RAM.
I guess Google is moving towards the masses and the "iPhone look a like" crowed.
As for OS updates, since there aren't any other devices that are likely to get any faster updates, I'll stick with my 6P for as long as it will be alive.
Unfortunately I believe the Pixel line will succeed , eventually.
Nexus Not Dead.
I'll probably buy Pixel only after some price cuts.
Hopefully Google will realize their big mistake and revive the Nexus!ftw!
The only way these will sell well is if they push them out to all the carriers who push the cost to monthly installments. They also are going to have to spend a lot on an advertising campaign so the general public has any idea about the pixel. Maybe that's what they're going for this time. Otherwise, slash the prices by $200 to make it appealing at all to the Nexus crowd.
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I would enjoy the new pixel XL phone cause the bluetooth issues on my 6P drives me nuts. but theres no 64GB option at all. so either 32 or 128. and I will not pay $860 for a phone. I will wait until the price drops considerably before i consider buying the pixel. I suppose google decided that they had to retire the Nexus name if they wanted to start charging a grand for a phone. Nexus is supposed to be the "affordable" phone.
Honestly I'm pretty tilted, not just over what Google cooked up for us during last nights stream, but also their decision to kill Nexus as well. What good will this bring to them? All it's doing is alienate their customers even more. I understand that us enthusiasts are the 1% of the 1% but Google killing off their Nexus line and going for a more closed, more proprietary Android device with their Pixel line is not only going to make things harder for ROM/root devs but also sway away customers on Nexus for two things: price and customisation. At this point I might as well just get an iPhone and jailbreak, considering the fact that not only is the Pixel literally the same price as the iPhone, but also the fact that jailbreak does just as much these days, actually more, I can still use Apple Pay with a jailbreak.
What are you doing Google.
Hope things go better with the Pixel 2 or whatever the next phone in line is called.
I don't care about the nexus termination tbh. Though I did buy the 6p partly because its a nexus, it was never a deciding factor. Brand loyalty shouldn't be a thing now in 2016 since no company gives a crap about old customers anymore. If google wants to position itself as a premium phone brand then so be it, it just means that I wont be touching a pixel or any phone >$600. Have always bought products that make my money go the furthest taking quality, features and my needs into account. Its gonna be a tough day when the above-mentioned lead me away from Google products but it won't ultimately change my decision. For now the 6p still looks to have a good year or 2 for me until the tech evolves more
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....I understand that us enthusiasts are the 1% of the 1%
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then you should know our preferences and opinions matter naught. If us tinkerers are that important to the final sales figures I'm sure we would have seen prerooted samsung phones and jailbroken iphones being officially available products for purchase
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then you should know our preferences and opinions matter naught. If us tinkerers are that important to the final sales figures I'm sure we would have seen prerooted samsung phones and jailbroken iphones being officially available products for purchase
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You're spot on, to me XDA is about taking the mainstream and hacking and modding it for the enthusiasts, it's no fun if the devices are pre modded
I will buy 2nd hand 128GB XL next year.
I really hope the nexus is not dead. One the other hand if they market right and sell a lot of pixel devices uses will have proper android devices. A lot of I phone uses can't stand Samsung. They form their opinion a of android as Samsung. And honestly Samsung android ( touchwiz) is a bad example of the great system we here at XDA love
Well the nexus line might be dead but to me it doesn't mean "long live the new PIXEL king".
I don't see the PIXEL especially the XL device becoming a huge sales item.
It will at most be a niche device, losing the developers community.
Change this thread title to "The Pixel is dead DOA, and long live the Nexus spirit!"
I Love the Nexus Line and personally Nexus isn't Dead for me!
I hope Google will Launch the Google Assistant on Nexus, too. If Not, I hope the Great XDA Community will bring the Google Assistant or the whole Pixel System to our Nexus devices.
Yes the tittle should be the pixel already dead, long live the nexus
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a small phone, since I find it uncomfortable those that exceed 5 inches.
I was watching and analyzing those who have good battery, camera and features and I think the best that there are currently on the market are these 2: the Iphone SE and the Sony X Compact.
I'm not going to use it for games of any kind. What I most look for is that it has good battery life, a good rear camera (selfies do not bag) and, if possible, you can hear well with the headphones on.
Obvious that it is 2 different operating systems and, leaving aside that, since I like to use IOS or Android, from their own experience, comments or whatever: with which would they stay?
From now, thank you for you help!!
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Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a small phone, since I find it uncomfortable those that exceed 5 inches.
I was watching and analyzing those who have good battery, camera and features and I think the best that there are currently on the market are these 2: the Iphone SE and the Sony X Compact.
I'm not going to use it for games of any kind. What I most look for is that it has good battery life, a good rear camera (selfies do not bag) and, if possible, you can hear well with the headphones on.
Obvious that it is 2 different operating systems and, leaving aside that, since I like to use IOS or Android, from their own experience, comments or whatever: with which would they stay?
From now, thank you for you help!!
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I haven't ever owned an SE so I can't really comment on it vs the compact. However I do know that the compact has more picture storage potential due to the SD Card slot (SE doesn't have one). The SE uses a 12 megapixel shooter vs the Compact using a 23. I am note a huge taking pictures kinda guy so no complaints from me on the camera but I guess that's not saying much. Anyway below is a link to a video comparing the two. It's a little outdated as it has the compact running marshmallow (it has Nougat now) but does a decent job of comparing the two. https://youtu.be/U5g7LTCJqaY
Sony. Water resistance, SDcard. That's about it lol.
The SE may perform smoother as it is powered by the 6S internals.
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If you're not bothered about customizing then buy an iPhone, if you want customization then buy any Android.
iphone fails
- missing notification led
- no customizing and no jailbreak in sight, closed source system
- no slight to unlock (stupid doubble press home button to unlock since apple removed slide to unlock)
- less ram, no sd card, memory not expandable
- 1600 mAh vs 2700 mAh and no quick charge
- smaller display hurts your eyes,
- ligning connector incompatible (how many cables do we need ?)
- easy scratches on alu frame,
- banana bending,
- design from 2012
- steve jobs is dead
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How is the dev community for this phone though?
There doesn't seem to be any official Lineago OS builds and only one AOSP ROM ...
I would buy this phone in a heartbeat with Lineage OS support but without it seems like one would be dependent on one single developer for ROMs on this phone.
andTab said:
How is the dev community for this phone though?
There doesn't seem to be any official Lineago OS builds and only one AOSP ROM ...
I would buy this phone in a heartbeat with Lineage OS support but without it seems like one would be dependent on one single developer for ROMs on this phone.
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You are welcome to join the dev community and help to bring LineageOS to this device. Otherwise buy yourself a Nexus...
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You are welcome to join the dev community and help to bring LineageOS to this device. Otherwise buy yourself a Nexus...
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Nexus phones have ****ty hardware, so no thank you. Then I will get an iPhone.
Don't need a phone with a manufacturing defect that has thousands of phones failing and Google telling you that you are sadly 21 days out of warranty.
Problem solved
I have owned both of them and I found the iPhone SE to be the absolute perfect size for 1 hand use. The X Compact is good but there are still times where the opposite corner can be hard to reach. The SE also feels great in hand and is built with high quality materials. I inevitably returned mine and got a X Compact instead. They are both great phones and if OS doesn't matter to you, I would go with the SE, but I personally prefer Android and it's customization so I returned it.
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iphone fails
- less ram, no sd card, memory not expandable-
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Well you're comparing two different Systems, iOS doesn't require as much RAM as Android.
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Well you're comparing two different Systems, iOS doesn't require as much RAM as Android.
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maybe in the old days, but have you seen IOS 10.3 on the SE today ? Compared to the SE the XC performs much better
and the iphone 7+ is shipped with 3gb for a good reason
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maybe in the old days, but have you seen IOS 10.3 on the SE today ? Compared to the SE the XC performs much better
and the iphone 7+ is shipped with 3gb for a good reason
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haha honestly I haven't seen an iPhone since 2012, maybe you're right
I own both, they both have positives and negatives. I actively swap between the two because of that! The iPhone is smooth and beautiful, great quality hardware, but iOS feels much more restricted and the screen is very small (even for a small phone fan like myself). Camera is awesome; super quality and quick in all conditions, although selfie camera is only 1.2mp. Not that big a deal though since the pics still look good. X compact on the other hand has a much more vibrant screen which is bigger (but not too big!), very snappy and excellent performance compared to other androids, the system is overall much more customizable, great camera too with wider lens and better selfies. But overall the phone feels cheaper in hand (plastic body), and like all android phones it doesn't have the super polished behaviour, look and feel of apple. As I said, positives and negatives for both! For me I use Google Apps for everything, which is more restricted on iphone obviously, and I like being able to read news clearly on my commute on the larger brighter screen, so I use the x compact more. But sometimes I go back to the iPhone se just because of the smooth shiny experience
Hello, I really wanted a powerful and fast phone with clean interface, so I bought an iPhone 7 as the first non-Android phone in 7 years, so I'm very experienced with Android. I just wasn't impressed with with the Pixel for it's price. I also have a SE. I need some functionality in Android that's missing on the 7 and looking for a companion small phone that I can alternate with if needed, so I'm looking to get rid of my SE to fund for the Compact.
What I do learn from using iOS is that it's more primitive than I thought, despite the clean smooth experience. Somethings are just a joke on it I don't know how they get away with it when millions people are paying for it. But it has it's benefits as well, I do enjoy the A10 chip performance and not spending many hours to setup my phone. And some things just work better, like the Fine my iPhone. On the Honor 8, I could just bypass that lost phone screen . I see too many bugs on Android with skinned devices, and giant devices, which made me really tired of dealing with them. The Pixel just doesn't do it for me in term of pricing, all the issues I'm hearing about, the availability. I would say the Android market abandoned me, not the other way around, and this pushed me to iPhone.
My last Sony phone was the Xperia Play. I'm hoping the current Sony's OS is not too far away from stock Android.
I bought the X Compact for my wife as a Christmas gift - the other phone I was looking at was the iPhone SE.
After she tried out a loaner iPhone for about three weeks she decided she preferred Android, chiefly due to more free apps being available/costing less than the iOS version.
From everything I gathered from the numerous reviews, it essentially comes down to which platform you prefer. The iPhone SE has a slightly better camera in low light (night), but that looked like the only hardware advantage. If you go with the x-compact, try to wait until B&H photo has it on sale for $270. It's done that 3 times in the last five months.
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- no customizing and no jailbreak in sight, closed source system
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I was also seriously considering the SE, but that is the big reason I got the X compact. The Sony open devices program is a major plus for me. I look forward to actually owning my own device and have freedom of messing around with it, maybe even trying out Jolla's SailfishOS when it's available.
The only thing that concerns me about Android is there seems to be vulnerabilities exposed on the net or viruses (adware that calls back to someone's server in the background and monitors SMS messages) through legitimate apps.. seems there's a security flaw announced once a week. How is development for security patches on it, given the frequency of malware?
Not sure about ios but I kinda like having open source android., So long as devs are on top of things and not just adding feature fluff.
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The only thing that concerns me about Android is there seems to be vulnerabilities exposed on the net or viruses (adware that calls back to someone's server in the background and monitors SMS messages) through legitimate apps.. seems there's a security flaw announced once a week. How is development for security patches on it, given the frequency of malware?
Not sure about ios but I kinda like having open source android., So long as devs are on top of things and not just adding feature fluff.
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Android now have built in permission management so you can deny that app from accessing your personal info. It would be nice to have a built in feature to block internet access outright, but generally only MIUI based roms have that. I don't see it as an issue aside from people who download dubious apps or sideloading from questionable sources.
If you are that concerned you should get a phone that is promised monthly security updates, which is a Google Pixel. https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/ I was surprised the X Compact (international version) have timely monthly security updates.
I would say the closed source nature of iOS potentially makes it more insecure, with open source at least you have much more developers looking at it and alerting the issues.
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Android now have built in permission management so you can deny that app from accessing your personal info. It would be nice to have a built in feature to block internet access outright, but generally only MIUI based roms have that. I don't see it as an issue aside from people who download dubious apps or sideloading from questionable sources.
If you are that concerned you should get a phone that is promised monthly security updates, which is a Google Pixel. https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/ I was surprised the X Compact (international version) have timely monthly security updates.
I would say the closed source nature of iOS potentially makes it more insecure, with open source at least you have much more developers looking at it and alerting the issues.
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It'd have been easier to state that the XC already gets monthly (security) updates as the GP, but I digress. This is good, probably better than most manufacturers in that regard. My last phone was a buy once, throwaway after a couple months because Huawei decides "Want latest Android, your phone is obsolete -- buy a new Mate instead". Before folks say "Wait, they update their Mate line now!" - watch a "beta" ROM come online from Huawei after a year of not releasing any updates for months (once new phones are around the corner), the poof, scrapped ROM/patch (and now your phone is obsolete/vulnerable) because hey go buy new shiny phone to get the latest "update". It's infuriating, a phone should be "supported" for at least 3 years. Usually the good XDA developers make a phone last much longer than that!