Does usb tether use mobile data or hotspot data? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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A couple phone carriers have unlimited 4G device data. As in it will never throttle. I work from my laptop a lot and was bummed to hear that it's only 8 gigs of hotspot data. Yeats ago I paid for a full version of Foxfi and I was wondering if any body knows if usb tether uses hot spot or device data.

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Why do people want a 3g tablet with all these 4 LTE phones.

What is the big deal of a 3g prime I tether at 4 LTE speeds all day.
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cjbailey75 said:
What is the big deal of a 3g prime I tether at 4 LTE speeds all day.
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Europe doesn't have LTE And tether sucks battery faster than any game
But I don't need any kind of mobile connectivity anyway on my Prime, HSPA tether is enough
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What is the big deal of a 3g prime I tether at 4 LTE speeds all day.
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anyone who buys a 3G tablet likes wasting money or has so much they don't know what to do with free Wi-Fi/USB/Bluetooth tether from smartphone is the only way to go even my 55 year old father knows as much
cjbailey75 said:
What is the big deal of a 3g prime I tether at 4 LTE speeds all day.
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Yea, I hotspot from my phone now, but if money was no object I'd prefer the setup I previously had with my xoom.
xdaspyder said:
Yea, I hotspot from my phone now, but if money was no object I'd prefer the setup I previously had with my xoom.
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It would be nice, if money was no object. But given that it is, I'm happy tethering my phone; I don't have cause to use my tablet outside of Wi-Fi enabled areas enough to warrant another data plan.
in maine we will not have 4 lte anytime soon, so up here getting some thing lte is a waste.
Because companies like Verizon and At&t limit you to 2GB a month and there's no way you could share the connection with your phone AND tablet for a whole month and not go over that limit?
3G tablet plans cost too much. I just tether to my Galaxy Note as well.
My area doesn't have LTE support. The service providers only just installed new towers a few months ago, and before that my devices were struggling for a signal. What's the point in an LTE device if the most you'll get is hspa?
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I am with T-Mo so LTE is not an option, though speeds are acceptable. I would be willing to shell out a bit for 3G on the tablet for the convenience factor. Since I already have a wi-fi only TP though I am not going to buy another tablet just for 3G.
mattykinsx said:
Because companies like Verizon and At&t limit you to 2GB a month and there's no way you could share the connection with your phone AND tablet for a whole month and not go over that limit?
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Prior to my contract with Verizon its unlimited and they offer 10 gigs for $50 now which is more than enough. Downloading avg of 18mb a sec its wonderful. Tethering is a dream with my gaze rooted.
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jdbaker82 said:
anyone who buys a 3G tablet likes wasting money or has so much they don't know what to do with free Wi-Fi/USB/Bluetooth tether from smartphone is the only way to go even my 55 year old father knows as much
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It depends on how you use your tablet. If you're home or around places with decent Wi-Fi 80% of the time I agree with you. I travel a lot and anyone who does knows you can't depend on Wi-Fi. At hotels, restaurants, or airports.
So you can either get a 3/4G tablet or tether. Tethering is a pain in the ass. Get out the phone, turn on sharing, connect the tablet, disconnect the tablet, turn off sharing. Forget the latter any your phone's battery is hosed. It's hosed anyway because you can literally watch it run down when Wi-Fi sharing's enabled.
Here's some of the advantages of 3/4G:
- Your tablet's always online and can receive e-mails and messages continually.
- You can just flip it open and use it without having to wait for a gazillion background process to all finish competing for the Wi-Fi signal at the same time.
- Your phone's battery is spared the torture of Wi-Fi (or BT) sharing so it's available for calls when you need it.
- You can split your data across multiple devices. For $20 a month on AT&T (they think it's a non-smartphone) my tablet uses 6ishGB of data. I use 4-6GB on my phone too. I'd get flagged and put on a tiered plan if I didn't have seperate devices so it's actually cheaper to have two data plans.
While it's not for everybody it has its advantages. I wouldn't personally own a non-3/4G tablet.
A dialogue between me and my employer.
Employer: Why didn't you get a tablet with 3G/4G built in?
ME:*holding up phone* Do you want to expense two data plans?
Employer: Point taken.
I can leave my wifi tether on literally all day and do very little harm to the battery. Tmobile G2 (HSPA+ 15down2up)
Also there is no conflict with Tmobile's data and phone services. I can answer a call without interrupting my connection.
The trick is to be reasonable about your expectations.
IE: dont stream HD youtube all day, or you'll kill the phone.
I use a 4G (has 3G support) Hotspot device instead of buying additional data plans for various devices.
While I could tether to my phone which is still 3G, when I am in the field, I normally need my phone while using data at the same time and tether would also reduce the battery of the phone quicker as well.
With the 4G hotspot, I can tether up to 5 devices at the same time which includes not only tables, slates, netbooks, notebooks, regular desktops with a WiFi adapter but also even my phone which still has 3G.
In my field kit, I carry a battery unit which will power the 4G hotspot for more than 14 hours continuously, so I can do data for longer than most of the device I could connect to it without AC power.
I can and have many times provided data access to people who were with me who had only WiFi enabled devices securely as well.
Most of the time, I just turn the hotspot on, and stick it in my pocket and have hi-speed Wifi available where I am walking.
I don't use free Unsecure WiFi hotspots.. only secure WiFi connections

[Q] Cannot connect view to iPhone4 for bluetooth tethering

I would like to be able to tether my HTC View to my iPhone 4 via bluetooth to share the internet connection. It works successfully via MiWi with the wireless hotspot. I would like to use the bluetooth instead though since the wifi hotspot kills my battery and makes my phone physically hot to the touch after a few hours of it. Is this possible?
The 2 devices do pair through mywi using bluetooth. But when i click to connect and use for internet access the View just sits there and says connecting.
iPhone is running 5.0.1 and is jailbroken
HTC View is running 3.2.1 and is rooted and s-off
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I would like to be able to tether my HTC View to my iPhone 4 via bluetooth to share the internet connection. It works successfully via MiWi with the wireless hotspot. I would like to use the bluetooth instead though since the wifi hotspot kills my battery and makes my phone physically hot to the touch after a few hours of it. Is this possible?
The 2 devices do pair through mywi using bluetooth. But when i click to connect and use for internet access the View just sits there and says connecting.
iPhone is running 5.0.1 and is jailbroken
HTC View is running 3.2.1 and is rooted and s-off
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Sorry, I don't have a solution for you. I was just more curious if your wireless carrier has found out about you tethering and tried to force you into a tethering plan? I really want to jailbreak my iPhone for tethering but it sounds like there isn't a fullproof way of not letting carriers find out you are doing this.
I would like to do the same. I've read on other forums that some have success with honeycomb connecting to 4.0 miwi
I've been using tethering for about 6 months now. In the beginning it was only when wifi wasn't available for my laptop, or my wife's iPhone on trips (she has 200mb data)
They have not complained yet but it was very low data usage before. I'm sure my data will increase now so I will have to see. I work in IT, everywhere I go has wifi. I've used 702mb of data this month (1/2 through cycle). I'm normally around around 300 - 400mb of data a month. I'm also grandfathered into unlimited plan, so they get $30 a month from me for data. I doubt they are complaining much since i'm such a light user. This bill will be my first full month with the view, so we will see if I ever get any complaints.
jonesychris said:
I've been using tethering for about 6 months now. In the beginning it was only when wifi wasn't available for my laptop, or my wife's iPhone on trips (she has 200mb data)
They have not complained yet but it was very low data usage before. I'm sure my data will increase now so I will have to see. I work in IT, everywhere I go has wifi. I've used 702mb of data this month (1/2 through cycle). I'm normally around around 300 - 400mb of data a month. I'm also grandfathered into unlimited plan, so they get $30 a month from me for data. I doubt they are complaining much since i'm such a light user. This bill will be my first full month with the view, so we will see if I ever get any complaints.
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Ah ok, well keep us updated. I too am grandfathered in on unlimited data on my iPhone 4. And I also am a fairly light user (< 1GB/month), but everyone makes it sound like the carriers are jumping on illegal tethering pretty hard. Regardless of how much data is actually used, they know from the ports that tethering is happening. I almost wouldn't mind paying for a tethering account, but the worst part about doing it is that you lose unlimited regular data.
Reading your posts, I can't understand why tethering is "illegal" or forbidden. I you pay for a data plan, why can't one use it on any device?
Because they want to charge for it. Not sure
No one has successfully tethered with bluetooth?
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I found this article with some searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374213&highlight=bluetooth+tether
I wonder if this would work with the View. Same WPA file work?
tito12 said:
Reading your posts, I can't understand why tethering is "illegal" or forbidden. I you pay for a data plan, why can't one use it on any device?
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Its not "illegal", in that I don't think you can get thrown in jail or sued for it.
But you agree to the carrier's Terms & Conditions when you sign up to use their network, whether you like it or not (or bothered to read them). Violation of the Terms means that the carrier can terminate your service, add charges to your account, or other repercussions, depending on what the Terms state.
Not sure what carrier's policies are in Israel. But in the US, most of the big carriers have specific statements in their Terms of Use, that prohibit tethering other devices to your phone without a tethering specific plan. If you are caught violating this policy, they reserve the right to add that plan to your account, or even drop your account if they want.
And yes, its of course so they can charge you extra. I completely agree that data should be data. And if you pay for a certain amount of data, or on an unlimited plan, then ideologically it should not make a difference if you are tethered or not. But there are many times in life where the most logical or fair concept is not what happens in reality. Especially in the for-profit business world.
No one has any ideas? Surely i'm not the first person who has tried to do this.
I just posted a possible solution related to this except I did it on the View:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469997

[Q] Info on how hotspot works

Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for other users' experience with and using their phone as a mobile hotspot. I'm going to be going on a family vacation in a couple of weeks and I was looking into using my phone as a hotspot so kids can watch netflix while driving or I can hook up a Roku in the room and stream through my phone. The hotel we're going to doesn't have Internet in the rooms from what I can gather, they only have an Internet Cafe' down by the pool.
I only have 1GB of LTE data on my phone since I'm surrounded by WiFi and music streaming is free. I called T-mo and they said I can switch to the unlimited data on my phone for however many days I needed it (pro-rated charge) and that works out well for me. But then when I asked about the hotspot info, I got pretty confused on it. The rep was trying to explain that I could use my own mobile data for hotspot, but it would cap at 5gb of data transfers (which is like 1 HD Netflix movie). Then he tried telling me that there were specific hotspot plans but I needed a special device for that.
So what's the deal? Is it possible to just upgrade to the unlimited lte data plan for my phone line and then have hotspot access and be able to watch more than one or two movies using it as a hotspot? Or is there a special plan that I should be asking to get added? My phone is Tmo S5, rooted, running S&T rom.

Anyone knows how to bypass the hotspot speed cap of 512kbps

school wifi sucks, which means i need a reliable hotspot tethering speed
Buy the T-Mobile One Plus international plan and you'll get unlimited lte hotspot
YourWorstFears said:
school wifi sucks, which means i need a reliable hotspot tethering speed
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use PDANet or EasyTether Pro
T-Mobile One Plus International plan does NOT give you unlimited LTE hotspot, because after you consumer 50GB in a single billing cycle your data will be de-prioratized. You will still get LTE tethering, but the speed of it won't be fast, because the phone itself, even without tethered connection, will be slowed down until next billing cycle start. For the same reasons the suggestion of next poster to use a tethering app like PDANet or EasyTether Pro will only work for the first 50GB consumed. After that your tethered devices will get slow speeds, because the hotspot source itself will be deprioratized on T-Mobile network.

Unlimited Hotspot (zero throttling) on SM-G965U1a

This is my first post and I'm not sure if I'm even in the right place or not but here goes.
I have an old SM-G965U1 and for at least the last 2 years I've been using the hotspot as my primary home internet connection. I have absolutely no idea how but using the hotspot on that phone (and only that phone) I'm able to use an unlimited amount of hotspot data without the speeds ever being throttled. I was under the impression for a long time that it had something to do with my plan. It had the $65/month unlimited prepaid plan when it was still called "GoPhone" so I just assumed that since I always renewed the same plan even after they switched to calling it "ATT Prepaid" that the unlimited hotspot service was somehow grandfathered in.
But it turns out that regardless of what Sim card I put into the phone as long as it's got a plan that has hotspot available (even if it's already reached the hotspot data limit) and the plan is active it will provide unlimited hotspot.
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this and/or how to replicate the results? I can't find much info on this subject and most of the info I've found is specific to other devices.

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