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Dear all
Got my HTC HD2 today,Need ur help guys to share best working rom without any bugs,I want to dual boot my HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5 & Android
Thanks in Advance
munishjoshi said:
Dear all
Got my HTC HD2 today,Need ur help guys to share best working rom without any bugs,I want to dual boot my HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5 & Android
Thanks in Advance
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Congrats bro and welcome aboard.
Just wanted to point out, this is the Dev forum, Q&A going in the General Section.
Anyhow, you Have Sense rom, Sense 2.1 and CM7 (no Sense, other ui such as LaunchPro or ADW).
You got too many choice.
Pick which you want to test first and enjoy flashing once you get addicted.
You could also put more than one Android build on your SD card. So you can test more than one at once without deleted the other.
Whichever you choose, Good luck
PS: Most famous are CM7 builds
Thanks Bro for replying
i m not new into flashing..already flashed so many phone..m already flashing addicted...i saw so many roms in this forums...i just would like to know that which one is bugs freeee
Thanks
munishjoshi said:
i m not new into flashing..already flashed so many phone..m already flashing addicted...i saw so many roms in this forums...i just would like to know that which one is bugs freeee
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Anyone who knows anything about software(or real life for the matter) will tell you - "it does not exist"
You will have a better luck asking what ROMs people are using and would recommend.
it's hard to say which rom doesnt have bugs... try first. i like the rom from MCCM HD 4.0. i'm using it at this time.
I can personally recommend the AmeriCan Android rom, been using it past months and updates makes it better and better ^^
Personally though, uninstall the NetFlix thing right after putting the rom on, it made my HD2 uber slow, the second it was gone, it was back to super speedy
Hi, could somebody please link me the thread where the multiple versions of abdroid is expaned? Thanks
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Just buy a HTC phone with Android like DHD.. That is not any bug.
I personally like and use JAGUARMIUI 5.
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manhktqd said:
Just buy a HTC phone with Android like DHD.. That is not any bug.
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I´ve been running AmeriCanAndroid GB2.3.3 on my HD2 for over 2 months now and have less bugs than my friend with a stock (updated) DHD.
I could recommend this one and version 2.3.4. I suggest you try that one and give it a go. I can't imagine that this ROM is not good. Be sure to read the last 10 pages of the ROM thread to be sure. I think that´s the best way to check if the latest version doesn´t have any significant bugs. Good luck!
American android. You wont look back
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I have used the following SD Builds during the last 3-4 months. Do not want to switch to NAND as I still have some use for WM. Even tried some of the older RAM builds like Darkstone's SuperRAM Froyo. I am giving my preferences below and check my sig for other info.
1. AmericanAndroid, have tried almost every build since it came out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
The two most recent Builds, 05172011, 05192011 and 05212011 have given me the most issues with significant screen lag and persistent wait periods when using these. I tried them with three different SD cards (4G C2, 8G C4, 8G C6) and still had issues. I am now back to the 05032011 Build which runs superbly on two different SD cards (4G C2, 8G C4). I was surprised to find that the Class 2 SD card was the smoothest although I am sure there are variations based on other factors beyond the scope of my intelligence. Everything works like a charm on 05032011 build except Market acts up sometimes. Follow the link for all Builds by date here: http://uploading.com/linklists/debamfea/ACA
2. May 14 BOYPPC Build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970542
is good too but as is usual we all have our personal preferences and I feel more comfortable with AmericanAndroid. This would be my backup if AmericanAndroid goes loopy.
3. Have used MccMBoxMaX Build too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694
I have kept it on a separate SD just in case. Pretty solid build but I am sticking to AmericanAndroid for the time being.
I have tried at least 8 releases for the past 6 mths. From one chef to another chef. But for the past 3 mths, I m using MCCM SE V3.3 . I must say it is stable n fluid. I have also recently tried other GB version from MCCM n other chefs..... but I guess its not really that stable yet. Probably someone can recommend me a stable GB version. Would LOVE to get my hand on one of em.
this isn't to mislead anyone...i feel i've gotta say.....mccm doesn't compile his builds from source. his is completely reliant on switching files around....i have yet to see anything i'd trust for a second from him. he's had previous problems with actual chef's and even developers because he breaks xda's rules and steals builds....this isn't just a warren dislikes mccm thing.
use those builds if you wish......but those very builds are 100% reliant on the taking of someone elses compiled source. if he at least built from source code, he'd get some credibility from me.
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this isn't to mislead anyone...i feel i've gotta say.....mccm doesn't compile his builds from source. his is completely reliant on switching files around....i have yet to see anything i'd trust for a second from him. he's had previous problems with actual chef's and even developers because he breaks xda's rules and steals builds....this isn't just a warren dislikes mccm thing.
use those builds if you wish......but those very builds are 100% reliant on the taking of someone elses compiled source. if he at least built from source code, he'd get some credibility from me.
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@warrenb213, thx for letting us know about this issue. I wasn't aware of it but will treat MccM's work cautiously. I'm going to head over to the AmericanAndroid thread to give you thanks which I should have done some time ago.
warrenb213 said:
this isn't to mislead anyone...i feel i've gotta say.....mccm doesn't compile his builds from source. his is completely reliant on switching files around....i have yet to see anything i'd trust for a second from him. he's had previous problems with actual chef's and even developers because he breaks xda's rules and steals builds....this isn't just a warren dislikes mccm thing.
use those builds if you wish......but those very builds are 100% reliant on the taking of someone elses compiled source. if he at least built from source code, he'd get some credibility from me.
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Hi... Warrenb long time no see. How can u give comments without thinking . Any proof that i stealing your build ? In xda rules u can post build if the other dev give u permissions . Just after giving permissions then give fake info to Moderator after u realized that i better tweaker than u . I got ban because of warez , big 'thanks' to u . But at the end just live with it . If u want to give comment think carefully please.
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Warrenb213
14th May 2011, 09:51 PM
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I feel like I've got to ask....
Did Tytung approve of this SD-build? I ask because Tytung has experience in this already, I don't know why he/she wouldn't convert the build themselves? lol
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tytung
15th May 2011, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenb213
I feel like I've got to ask....
Did Tytung approve of this SD-build? I ask because Tytung has experience in this already, I don't know why he/she wouldn't convert the build themselves? lol
Yes, I approve it.
Thanks to HaPeWe for the time and effort to convert it from NAND ROM.
I have no time to install WM just in order to test SD build.
And I won't like to release a SD version without testing.
That's why I don't release it myself.
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OH man ... feel hurt right
mccmjoon76 said:
Hi... Warrenb long time no see. How can u give comments without thinking . Any proof that i stealing your build ? In xda rules u can post build if the other dev give u permissions . Just after giving permissions then give fake info to Moderator after u realized that i better tweaker than u . I got ban because of warez , big 'thanks' to u . But at the end just live with it . If u want to give comment think carefully please.
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This is the reply from the man him self :
OH man ... feel hurt right
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You were banned for good reason, not once....but twice.
You are NOT CURRENTLY stealing the ACA build because the mod's gave you the choice to take it down or be banned. Wouldn't get too confident. Most of the time, including in our case, you acted before getting permission. I wouldn't be surprised to find out most of your "builds" are the same.
If Tytung approved one of your "hack" builds then that is one example where you did in fact get permission.
What you do though in messing with builds has been observed as quite sloppy, and has proved you to be more of a "theme" applier than anything. I have never seen evidence of anything more than a theme applied. You never have shown source code for the majority of your projects, and when you do it's typically been to a place of no actual value for other folks to check out the source. You can't post people to look @ CM code when your using another dev's compiled source which stems AWAY from the stock CM repo's, for example. But the mod's have been lenient in that regard.
I think carefully before I respond, each and every time. I've not said anything which you could refute, mccm. Or was there something I said more specifically about your technique which you wanted to address?
Tweaker? Sir, if that is what you are then we should give folks like you your own subforum under here, called "Tweaked builds from people that have never compiled a build themselves." ACA is a compiled AND tweaked build, and our files can be found in builds across the HD2 forums.
Any developer which would accept the idea that a fellow not building from source code could make their ROM better than they could themselves, would be kidding themselves and they'd know it.
Nuff said, moving on.
warrenb213 said:
You were banned for good reason, not once....but twice.
You are NOT CURRENTLY stealing the ACA build because the mod's gave you the choice to take it down or be banned. Wouldn't get too confident. Most of the time, including in our case, you acted before getting permission. I wouldn't be surprised to find out most of your "builds" are the same.
If Tytung approved one of your "hack" builds then that is one example where you did in fact get permission.
What you do though in messing with builds has been observed as quite sloppy, and has proved you to be more of a "theme" applier than anything. I have never seen evidence of anything more than a theme applied. You never have shown source code for the majority of your projects, and when you do it's typically been to a place of no actual value for other folks to check out the source. You can't post people to look @ CM code when your using another dev's compiled source which stems AWAY from the stock CM repo's, for example. But the mod's have been lenient in that regard.
I think carefully before I respond, each and every time. I've not said anything which you could refute, mccm. Or was there something I said more specifically about your technique which you wanted to address?
Tweaker? Sir, if that is what you are then we should give folks like you your own subforum under here, called "Tweaked builds from people that have never compiled a build themselves." ACA is a compiled AND tweaked build, and our files can be found in builds across the HD2 forums.
Any developer which would accept the idea that a fellow not building from source code could make their ROM better than they could themselves, would be kidding themselves and they'd know it.
Nuff said, moving on.
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Your right man. Move on! Stop interfere the members that want to share about build.. let them judge by their own.
Banned twice! I make history
U should know the ROM or Build is come from Google we are making it works for HD2. U your self are not builder. Or else u won't be here. U will working with Google.
XDA site is about sharing. I don't mind some one here can come out better build then me. i congrat them. Cause members can enjoy the build daily..
By the way,I being thinking to post up my GB build back here again it will be nice right?
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I see this has turned into a bad conversation.
I don't know why you need to quarrel guys, I mean I have no business of meddling but since you've startet arguing I feel I should add a small opinion, knowing I don't have much right to do so:
MCCM's builds don't even run on my device, and Warren's ones work for 5 minutes then corrupt my SD! and yes that includes AmDroid.
it's not SD-related since I'm already using a build that's stable enough to handle 3 days of constant work on the same card.
Both of you guys are great in what they do really, considering the number of users you serve, but I don't think a public thread is the right place to argue. PMs were created for a reason, and there are MODs to complain to and stuff like that.
In my opinion, no matter who's right here, you both are looking bad.
HD2one
It is an older build, but very stable. I get 2970 on quadrant so it takes full advantage of the HD2's power. I've tried new builds, but i always come back.
@corsicanu suddenly stops developing of the AOD included AryaMod Note7 Port ROM because of some complaining people who can't wait some hours and keep nagging.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series/development/rom-aryamod-note7-port-v2-1-t3536186
Please, for the people it matters, convince him to continue developing!
He's not lazy to update his ROM and work out solving bugs, he always help!
The ROM is full of great Note 7 functions and he's trying to make it possible and create a bugless ROM, which is STABLE as now!!
Please, XDA members, convince him to come back and resume this great ROM!!!
Well, i dont blame him, not at all.
I myself am no dev, though have learned a lot here through reading, and that is exactly what people ARE NOT DOING, reading. Especially the A Series has a lot of members that dont bother thinking, it takes more time to ask a question rather then just have a search and see if people have asked something similar to you.
Long story short, a lot of members have 0 knowledge, 0 tolerance and 0 patience, but have HIGH expectations. This place is for twiddlers, not for people who want something changed and then disappear.
Remember, people do this for free, 100% out of pure will. Some may see it as a challenge, and some want to help. Even the one who may want donations, 95% of the A Series users are from developing countries, so most of the users here cannot afford to donate, and donations are very important if you want people like corsicanu around.
Me too he has real proplems in real life so he works in free time but everyone is asking for ETAs but he not A ROBOT see this different!!!!!!
@PlutoDelic, @huseein A5 that's known, The thing is, there are people who shouldn't be allowed to post or reply. That's all. He was working on the ROM for free, in freetime. Because of the freshly registered bastards who come here straight after buy their first Samsung phones.
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@PlutoDelic, @huseein A5 that's known, The thing is, there are people who shouldn't be allowed to post or reply. That's all. He was working on the ROM for free, in freetime. Because of the freshly registered bastards who come here straight after buy their first Samsung phones.
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Yes and he is very good man but the time doesn't allows to him to work
huseein A5 said:
Yes and he is very good man but the time doesn't allows to him to work
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I guess, in this case it wasn't because of time. Because of the users. However, it's well known that developing is a really long process and takes time.
But I wish he could send the deleted link to download the latest version or don't you have it @huseein A5? I was downloading the root files when he deleted them and closed the tread.
I'm truly disappointed @corsicanu!
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I guess, in this case it wasn't because of time. Because of the users. However, it's well known that developing is a really long process and takes time.
But I wish he could send the deleted link to download the latest version or don't you have it @huseein A5? I was downloading the root files when he deleted them and closed the tread.
I'm truly disappointed @corsicanu!
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I will upload on mega but what is your variant
huseein A5 said:
I will upload on mega but what is your variant
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Mine is A500FU, thanks, I'be thankful.
But I'll be happier if he comes back. I really hope so!
I haven't seen a better developer and a better supported A5 ROM yet!
just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
Bulgaricus said:
just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
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Yes you are right
Bulgaricus said:
just f*cking leave him, god........ leave him alone, he will come back as you people stop acting like damn kids ;_;
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We all hope so, dude.
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I will upload on mega but what is your variant
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If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
yellowrobot said:
Mine is A500FU, thanks, I'be thankful.
But I'll be happier if he comes back. I really hope so!
I haven't seen a better developer and a better supported A5 ROM yet!
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Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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corsicanu said:
If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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I will not give him but my files are ok I flashed it on my device and works now @Bulgaricus build ares kernel supporting A500H using my files and everything ok
@corsicanu is damn right, most of the people act like they are f*cking apes. Leave us do our job, we all have life and sh*t to do! Nothing in this world is perfect, or else to make something good and almost perfect it needs time! Don't act like hungry dogs against the devs, we are doing all our best if you don't like what we do then JUST F*CKING TRY DO IT YA OWN SELF
See I will not upload it and I will delete it from my device if that makes you happy
corsicanu said:
If you do that i will report you and you will get banned. You are the cause that i left. You gave me wrong files 2 TIMES IN A ROW. You didn't stopped with spaming that you want a5h kernel, that you need to learn, that you want to be like me. I struggled years to learn what i know now and you keep spaming me, my work, my threads, my users.. Ok if that is what you want, develop by yourself, because you don't know to have patience, understanding and apreciation.
Do not install or use anything from hussein as he kang my work MANY TIMES. It's only my choice to retract all the files since i worked for nothing. And no, i don't want donations. I did all the things because i wanted to make the difference but like i said earlier, this community doesn't deserve anything. Like my friend said in the second post, most of the users have small amount of knowledge and big amount of disrespect and requests. I made the most stable rom in this subforum and the only thing that i got were requests of N7 camera and Google assistant. If that so, thanks but no thanks.
Just my 2 cents.
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I can't even imagine how Google assistant COULD take place in a Marshmallow Touchwiz ROM and of course you're not expected to do the impossible, LOL.
Has anybody seen Assistant in ANY TW-based ROM? Miserable.
On the other hand, yeah, I was thinking about if he might modified some files in it and anyway he couldn't upload and re-use it without your permission.
But you didn't work for nothing. See, loads of us were testing and reporting bugs and the team work was complete.
But the whole thing is over because of some users, who can't see a difference between F and H...
Hope you give us one more chance.
@corsicanu i feel like you when I used a kitchen to re write updater script and everyone was laughing on me I'm just like you do development stuff at free time and make what's your want
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I can't even imagine how Google assistant COULD take place in a Marshmallow Touchwiz ROM and of course you're not expected to do the impossible, LOL.
Has anybody seen Assistant in ANY TW-based ROM? Miserable.
On the other hand, yeah, I was thinking about if he might modified some files in it and anyway he couldn't upload and re-use it without your permission.
But you didn't work for nothing. See, loads of us were testing and reporting bugs and the team work was complete.
But the whole thing is over because of some users, who can't see a difference between F and H...
Hope you give us one more chance.
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For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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@corsicanu i feel like you when I used a kitchen to re write updater script and everyone was laughing on me I'm just like you do development stuff at free time and make what's your want
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No you don't develop stuff. If you develop why don't you port the rom on your own? Why don't you make a kernel? You need to learn much more than "put libril.so in system and set 644 permission"...
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corsicanu said:
For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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No you don't develop stuff. If you develop why don't you port the rom on your own? Why don't you make a kernel? You need to learn much more than "put libril.so in system and set 644 permission"...
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I learned how to port roms but I need to repair my pc and one wise man said
Cheers!!!
corsicanu said:
For what one more chance? Read the last 4 pages on the rom or last 2 pages on the kernel.. Not to mention the group on Telegram where the bugs were "why do i hear ringtone on headphones?". You will convince yourself that it doesn't worth it. I will think about it next days but don't get anxious as i'm very dissapointed. Thanks.
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I'm not gonna be anxious, I totally understand you. I'm not in the Telegram group, though, but it must be full of stupid questions then...
Some people just doesn't deserve an answer. Piss them off, a lot of users can't open developer settings, either.
Anyways, keep it up and we're waiting if you may come back!
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A little about myself and the ethos I have to talk
I am Waseem Alkurdi, developer and owner of a Grand 2 since July 2014, and one of the earliest contributors to the community (Does anybody remember The Ultimate S5 Mod or MicroKat?).
I have a little mission to complete before taking my Grand 2 out of active service as a daily driver (NOT GOING TO DESERT IT THOUGH, EVER) which is building every next Android version from AOSP/CM (Lineage) sources (starting from Android O until the last version of Android that boots on 1.5 GB of RAM) and porting something significant to this beaut (I'm talking about OEM ROMs, but tips are welcome!)
What the Grand 2 was one day
The Grand 2 was the utopia of an Android device community turned real.
The community was rolling out ROM after ROM, mod after mod, and everybody was excited ...
First, @balliboxer rolled out the first TouchWiz (Android 4.3-based) rooted ROM for the device, and that was May 2014 if I remember. It was the first victory for the community, as everybody thought that the device could never see root because of the Qualcomm SecureBoot technology, which apparently got everybody thinking about a locked bootloader, which was not the case. (If anybody has a Grand 2 on 4.3, boot into Download Mode and you'll see what I mean: QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLED in blue letters).
Then came the official KitKat update: Of the most important changes was that the dreaded QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT:ENABLED line was replaced with a red UDC:START in red letters). Does that mean that technology was disabled? Only God knows.
With the KitKat update came GenNxt, another ROM by @balliboxer, and one of my first projects, the Ultimate S5 Mod. The mod exploited the S5 code hidden under the stock ROM to "transform" the device into an S5 look-alike.
But my mod has lost the limelight when @balliboxer and @aapav01 came out with the S5 mini port ROM. The ROM was not a lookalike, it was the real deal, and was a hit to Samsung itself and their corporate policy of not updating the UI design of older devices.
Then came the 4.4.4 port from the S3 Neo, another device with the same SoC as the Grand 2. It hadn't received much attention though, as the S5 mini port took it all.
At about the same time, I released MicroKat, a barebones ROM based on stock. It has received some attention from people whom I call "purists", those who like everything pure without the garbage that sticks to stuff at times, and from people who wanted the most performance of their devices.
Later on, a stream of ROMs came: A bombshell of 4.4.4 CyanogenMod 11, CyanognenMod 12 by @mukulsoni, another S5 mini port, this time using Lollipop TouchWiz, and CyanogenMod 13, and later, 14, by @adityaupreti, ResurrectionRemix M by @buggatty, and some Nougat ROMs by @SoUnd001, among more. With each ROM came a surprise.
Where the Grand 2 stands today
We, folks, have passed the climax of the story of our Grand 2. Way long ago, to be honest. We have hit the climax in those ol' times when the team of contributors ported ROM after ROM, when Android Lollipop from source was nothing to this community, and when the Lollipop port from the S5 Mini was being downloaded like nothing the Internet has ever seen
Folks, this device is officially dead.
But is the Snapdragon 400 SoC archaically old?
Heck, no!
Is 1.5 GB of RAM dead?
Heck, no!
What killed the Grand 2 is nothing but the childish bickering of the community.
Yep, the whole community, myself included.
When the same generous developers of our community and all of XDA turn into selfish, egoistic bullies, because of their impatience with some kids, yeah, kids, babies, children who have not been taught respect by their families, who are equally rude, that's what we get, the current state of the Grand 2.
I am not referring to one incident, but to a collective of incidents.
What is supposed to happen
Quite nothing could be done.
Well, quite nothing could be done to a community which has brought itself down.
Speaking for myself, I will aim at my goals, listed above, no matter what. But for other developers, all of which are of higher order than I am, please give this community a second chance.
I have a word for them (especially @adityaupret i
The Grand 2 community is at risk of collapsing prematurely. One hand cannot clap, as we Arabs say. However, all of our hands can work together for the prosperity of the community. Do you want to save this community?
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Another one!
SoUnd001 is still active as he said earlier(but he deleted his recent TW MM port so i rather doubt it), i am trying to make MIUI 8. Another friend of mine is working on FlymeOS.
Other than that there are no projects/devs active. If i succeed with MIUI & my friend also succeed with FlymeOS then we will work on more projects and try to keep the developement alive.
Are you also working on any project???
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@WaseemAlkurdi bro Glad to see you after long Time.... i dont know whether u remember me or not but i remember u from the effort u took for CM11....
We still expecting u to return to development..... Aditya Upreti will be always be helpful for our Device as my knowledge is concerned...(may be its false) .....
Once upon a time balliboxer ruled Grand 2 and then aapav ruled and then aditya ruled and now its dethroned... its set as free for someone whom we r waiting to enthrone to rule Grand 2 Developments back....
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@WaseemAlkurdi bro Glad to see you after long Time.... i dont know whether u remember me or not but i remember u from the effort u took for CM11....
We still expecting u to return to development..... Aditya Upreti will be always be helpful for our Device as my knowledge is concerned...(may be its false) .....
Once upon a time balliboxer ruled Grand 2 and then aapav ruled and then aditya ruled and now its dethroned... its set as free for someone whom we r waiting to enthrone to rule Grand 2 Developments back....
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First, I do remember you ... It's indeed a pleasure to hear from you after all that time ...
Well, as far as I could see, Aditya and @SoUnd001 have announced that they'll desert the Grand 2 (on the ResurrectionRemix Nougat thread), with threats of using the moderators for "policing" of the community, effectively installing (politically not technically here) themselves as absolute monarchs, waving their device trees, as if it was only them who had the intelligence and skill of learning the craft ...
But they are indeed justified and I do agree with them, as some users are indeed rude ...
Have they stepped back from their decision?
I hope they do.
Edit: RR Nougat is back online.
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SoUnd001 is still active as he said earlier(but he deleted his recent TW MM port so i rather doubt it), i am trying to make MIUI 8. Another friend of mine is working on FlymeOS.
Other than that there are no projects/devs active. If i succeed with MIUI & my friend also succeed with FlymeOS then we will work on more projects and try to keep the developement alive.
Are you also working on any project???
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It is great to know that there's some hope left ... Wish you and your friends the best of luck!
@SoUnd001, as it seems, is out of the scene for the time being.
As for myself, I am a Grade 12 student, and I have halted almost all electronic activity until I finish my secondary education exams (like the IGCSE, but my country's flavor).
However, I intend to start building a multitude of ROMs (mostly AOSP-based) from source starting June-July 2017.
Well G2 was having some Awesome Roms and Ports !
When Aapav ported TW LL from S5 Mini then Whole G2 Development loved that ROM.....all were crazy abt it ! As Samsung left G2 to die alone !
But after some time Aapav left G2 becoz of people ! And then Aditya and Sound were left on G2....They made cool rom to make G2 Live more ! Aditya Booted first Android N Rom on G2 and TW MM on G2 ! And then Aditya and Sound both made RR N....but again people spam bug bug bug.....NO Voice...how can I use...and soo on ! Soo they both decided to left Development ! But after a While....more longer....They came back with First ALPHA Release of TW MM.....And it was srsly the Best rom for G2 as it was TW MM which Samsung would never even thought that it will be Booted ! But due to some problems the Thread was closed.....but still I can hope that Aditya and Sound will again Release TW MM if they think that It is Fully STABLE to get it Released !
G2 lived a Very long Life !
And we shld thank all the Developers for that....Just Thank them not Spam them !
Regards @bravoInc
Can anybody please tell me what "skills" I require if I'm to start with this so called "Android Development"? (building thingies from source). It'd be really helpful.
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lollipop_99 said:
Can anybody please tell me what "skills" I require if I'm to start with this so called "Android Development"? (building thingies from source). It'd be really helpful.
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Generally, you will need:
A computer running Linux, preferably Ubuntu
Knowledge on Linux (just some terminal-friendliness, no need for really deep knowledge)
Knowledge about Android; pretend to be a doctor or your ol' mechanic and carefully dissect the stock ROM or any other ROM to get that)
Lack of terminalphobia is absolutely essential, as the whole Android build process is in the terminal.
Debugging interfaces shipped with Android (logcat, dmesg, and the whole lot)
Being generally tech-savvy (not running to others for help, but learning by trial and error, knowing how to wisely use Google, and knowing how to multiboot Windows, Linux, and Mac OS is generally proof of that)
Edit: Forgot a knowledge of a) programming (recommended, not obligatory) and b) Git and source control.
Worse news guys. SoUnd001 left Grand 2 & moved on to J5 developement. He even deleted his device tree. He and aditya got some problems thats why he left
So in my opinion we must setup a device tree if developement has to be continued. @Hammerhead2502 @WaseemAlkurdi & all other people willing to join hands to keep the developement alive please do something :'(
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simranjitsingh said:
Worse news guys. SoUnd001 left Grand 2 & moved on to J5 developement. He even deleted his device tree. He and aditya got some problems thats why he left
So in my opinion we must setup a device tree if developement has to be continued. @Hammerhead2502 @WaseemAlkurdi & all other people willing to join hands to keep the developement alive please do something :'(
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For me, and once again, I will be fully dedicated as of Jun.-Jul. 2017, not a day before that.
And although what SoUnd001 did of removal of trees was rude and unethical in open-source community terms, it is totally his right as his own effort and mental work. Being his right though, does not justify the action, and again, he is not the only one with the mental ability and skill needed to start building Android.
WaseemAlkurdi said:
For me, and once again, I will be fully dedicated as of Jun.-Jul. 2017, not a day before that.
And although what SoUnd001 did of removal of trees was rude and unethical in open-source community terms, it is totally his right as his own effort and mental work. Being his right though, does not justify the action, and again, he is not the only one with the mental ability and skill needed to start building Android.
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Yes i agree he has rights to delete and all. I don't blame him. But as usual Grand 2's developement is the one to bare the consequences of aditya & SoUnd's fight.
So in my opinion the first step should be setting up a device tree.
simranjitsingh said:
Yes i agree he has rights to delete and all. I don't blame him. But as usual Grand 2's developement is the one to bare the consequences of aditya & SoUnd's fight.
So in my opinion the first step should be setting up a device tree.
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All the shiit happened becoz of Some Misunderstanding between them......That's all !
simranjitsingh said:
Yes i agree he has rights to delete and all. I don't blame him. But as usual Grand 2's developement is the one to bare the consequences of aditya & SoUnd's fight.
So in my opinion the first step should be setting up a device tree.
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Bravo Inc. said:
All the shiit happened becoz of Some Misunderstanding between them......That's all !
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You guys mean to say that there was a fight between those two? I thought they were best friends.
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You guys mean to say that there was a fight between those two? I thought they were best friends.
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Okay. So what is that supposed to mean?
simranjitsingh said:
Worse news guys. SoUnd001 left Grand 2 & moved on to J5 developement. He even deleted his device tree. He and aditya got some problems thats why he left
So in my opinion we must setup a device tree if developement has to be continued. @[email protected] & all other people willing to join hands to keep the developement alive please do something :'(
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So development of RR N is completely stopped? It was very terrible.
rickyyohanes626 said:
So development of RR N is completely stopped? It was very terrible.
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The reality is that Nougat Trees are now Deleted !
Move on to Another Device if u want new Roms and all !
Hey Guys And Ladies Im Now Back Ive Been Thinking Over The While Ive Been Off Ive Thought Well Im Gonna Keep On Updating My Asus Rom And T-W Sony Rom Ive Found A Hell Lot Of Bugs With My Asus Rom Im Bringing It To Other J5 Users Too Im Sorry If Ive Promised Anything My Reason For Not Being Here Is Because My Brother Was In Hospital Im Happy To Be Back Also Im Making A Group For Us To Chat In Hopefully The J5 Crew And Developers Will Grow Again Id Be Happy To Add Whatever Apps You Want In My Random Rom ...... Theirs A Major Update Comming Out For Asus Rom
PS: ADS ROMS LOVES YOU
I NEED YOUR HELP TO BE A BETTER DEVELOPER
GOOGLE HELPS BUT SOMETIMES CANT RELY ON IT
DONATIONS ARE WELCOME
:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed
ADS ROMS PROJECT said:
Hey Guys And Ladies Im Now Back Ive Been Thinking Over The While Ive Been Off Ive Thought Well Im Gonna Keep On Updating My Asus Rom And T-W Sony Rom Ive Found A Hell Lot Of Bugs With My Asus Rom Im Bringing It To Other J5 Users Too Im Sorry If Ive Promised Anything My Reason For Not Being Here Is Because My Brother Was In Hospital Im Happy To Be Back Also Im Making A Group For Us To Chat In Hopefully The J5 Crew And Developers Will Grow Again Id Be Happy To Add Whatever Apps You Want In My Random Rom ...... Theirs A Major Update Comming Out For Asus Rom
PS: ADS ROMS LOVES YOU
I NEED YOUR HELP TO BE A BETTER DEVELOPER
GOOGLE HELPS BUT SOMETIMES CANT RELY ON IT
:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed
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CoOl StOrY bRo!
PlZz PoRt AnDrOiD o bRo, I kNoW yOu CaN dO iT bRo! PlzZzZ bRo.
Ty bRo!
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dat moemnt when henkate freaks out and goes crazy
bRo
ADS ROMS PROJECT said:
Hey Guys And Ladies Im Now Back Ive Been Thinking Over The While Ive Been Off Ive Thought Well Im Gonna Keep On Updating My Asus Rom And T-W Sony Rom Ive Found A Hell Lot Of Bugs With My Asus Rom Im Bringing It To Other J5 Users Too Im Sorry If Ive Promised Anything My Reason For Not Being Here Is Because My Brother Was In Hospital Im Happy To Be Back Also Im Making A Group For Us To Chat In Hopefully The J5 Crew And Developers Will Grow Again Id Be Happy To Add Whatever Apps You Want In My Random Rom ...... Theirs A Major Update Comming Out For Asus Rom
PS: ADS ROMS LOVES YOU
I NEED YOUR HELP TO BE A BETTER DEVELOPER
GOOGLE HELPS BUT SOMETIMES CANT RELY ON IT
:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed
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Voila!!!! Finally our bro is back!!!!
Welcome back bro!!!! Thanks for your comeback. J5 community needs you!!!!! :angel:
mitko7411 said:
dat moemnt when henkate freaks out and goes crazy
bRo
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Nah lol.
I'm just enjoying this xD.
ADS ROMS PROJECT said:
Hey Guys And Ladies Im Now Back Ive Been Thinking Over The While Ive Been Off Ive Thought Well Im Gonna Keep On Updating My Asus Rom And T-W Sony Rom Ive Found A Hell Lot Of Bugs With My Asus Rom Im Bringing It To Other J5 Users Too Im Sorry If Ive Promised Anything My Reason For Not Being Here Is Because My Brother Was In Hospital Im Happy To Be Back Also Im Making A Group For Us To Chat In Hopefully The J5 Crew And Developers Will Grow Again Id Be Happy To Add Whatever Apps You Want In My Random Rom ...... Theirs A Major Update Comming Out For Asus Rom
PS: ADS ROMS LOVES YOU
I NEED YOUR HELP TO BE A BETTER DEVELOPER
GOOGLE HELPS BUT SOMETIMES CANT RELY ON IT
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Let's press the THANKS button like crazy to make this dev build that rom, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS !
And by build I meant forget.
Watch out, watch out here comes Ads roms outta nowehere.
Who said that this phone was abandoned and dead regarding development???
Thank you for keeping this phone alive, thank you milion times.
I dont need Thanx
just respect
everyones probally with j5 (2017)
dont disrespect thanx
im not gonna be that next amazing rom but i know its just stuff being added im sorry if you dont like me here all im asking for is respect not thanx
i dont know if j5 is dead im looking for features too !
Lets work together
Android Nougat Not Officially Out For J5 So Android O will be hard
Android O Is Not Out Yet And Devs Probably Building It Lol
Whenever my girlfriend asked me, honey, why are you crying all day. I always tell her that ADS ROM PROJECT has left J5 community, when she heard that she cried too. But today i heard that ADS ROMS PROJECT is back, i can't be more happier, me and my girlfriend are not going to cry anymore, my life has some inspiration now, i can just be happy because best starting dev is back for our dear J5.
I can only say 3 words to you ADS ROMS PROJECT, THANK YOU MAN, i knew you would come back!
THANK you THNAK you THANK you.
I just recieved my pay check, so do you have paypal so i can donate to you 50 dollars, for all your work you contributed? YOU DESERVE THAT MONEY BRA!
Now lets get real, what are you going to port after updating ASUS ROM, can you please port MIUI 18? or android grace dream ux lollipop 5.1.1 KITKAT from NOTE FE?
Thank you once again , j5 community still has a chance!
You are the King of Glory ADS ROM PROJECT, our lives depend on you, please dont leave us anymore!!!
Acccidental post. :/
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Now lets get real, what are you going to port after updating ASUS ROM, can you please port MIUI 18? or android grace dream ux lollipop 5.1.1 KITKAT from NOTE FE?
Thank you once again , j5 community still has a chance!
You are the King of Glory ADS ROM PROJECT, our lives depend on you, please dont leave us anymore!!![/QUOTE]
I will let u guys chose I've been looking around how to port I found out how to do it I will check in with those roms ?
Now lets get real, what are you going to port after updating ASUS ROM, can you please port MIUI 18? or android grace dream ux lollipop 5.1.1 KITKAT from NOTE FE?
Thank you once again , j5 community still has a chance!
You are the King of Glory ADS ROM PROJECT, our lives depend on you, please dont leave us anymore!!![/QUOTE]
I will let u guys chose I've been looking around how to port I found out how to do it I will check in with those roms ?[/QUOTE]
thank you my dear brother from another mother
Fixed the quote of previous reply.
ADS ROMS PROJECT said:
I will let u guys chose I've been looking around how to port I found out how to do it I will check in with those roms ?
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Ragazzza said:
thank you my dear brother from another mother
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Oki Who Wants MiUi 6.0.1? Jw I've Read How To Port ?
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Oki Who Wants MiUi 6.0.1? Jw I've Read How To Port ?
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I believe it when I see it.
Is this real life?
Is this me just dreaming?
Did i hurt my brain and now i have trauma?
Am i imagining things?
Is someone messing with me?
Did someone hacked ADS ROMS PROJECT xda account?
I hope that this is real life and our dear brother ADS is back.
Time will tell!
Hail ADS Hail ADS
ROM
PROJECT
FOREVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
ADS ROMS PROJECT FOR PRESIDENT
It feels great to welcome you back to our team. When you left us, we all were filled with sadness. We are glad that you are back with us again. Looking forward for effective and productive time with you. Welcome back!
Welcome back! We are so happy to have you back at the XDA. We've all missed you, and the members have been anxious for your return. We were worried about you during your absence, and I speak for everyone here when I say that we are all thankful for your quick recovery.
Take whatever time you need to settle in and get back to ROMS fast. We're grateful to have you back so soon.
Fond Regards,
Ragazzza.
THREAD CLEANED.
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Ragazzza said:
Is this real life?
Is this me just dreaming?
Did i hurt my brain and now i have trauma?
Am i imagining things?
Is someone messing with me?
Did someone hacked ADS ROMS PROJECT xda account?
I hope that this is real life and our dear brother ADS is back.
Time will tell!
Hail ADS Hail ADS
ROM
PROJECT
FOREVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
ADS ROMS PROJECT FOR PRESIDENT
It feels great to welcome you back to our team. When you left us, we all were filled with sadness. We are glad that you are back with us again. Looking forward for effective and productive time with you. Welcome back!
Welcome back! We are so happy to have you back at the XDA. We've all missed you, and the members have been anxious for your return. We were worried about you during your absence, and I speak for everyone here when I say that we are all thankful for your quick recovery.
Take whatever time you need to settle in and get back to ROMS fast. We're grateful to have you back so soon.
Fond Regards,
Ragazzza.
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Thank You! I have a lot of Roma in mind at the moment im trying to port miui 6.0.0 mm
Next month im having a new computer so I will make rims even faster
I now have pay pal for those who want
I am making Facebook group
NEXT MONTHS BETTER ROMS
BIG UPDATE
ASUS ROM...... HOPEFULLY NEXT MONDAY
I WANNA KNOW WHAT LOVE IS!
JUST KIDDING
...............
LETS GO
S6 Port For Lollipop Only Just Wanna Make It Clear That Some Features Might Not Work
ADS ROMS PROJECT said:
Oki Who Wants MiUi 6.0.1? Jw I've Read How To Port ?
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SpamMachine said:
Where is it
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it is now in womb where gradual organogenesis occuring.After 9 clender months +/- 7 days it will deliver via normal delivery or c-section.you have to wait
Please pay a bit more attention to the reason why most of us bought this phone: https://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-moto-z3-play-review-885207/
Must I stress this? I'm sure I am not the only one getting annoyed by the lack of Moto Mod support in most current Custom Roms.
(Pixel Experience and Lineage 15.1 implementing it the best when it comes to 8.1)
There is even an entire sub redit complaining about this...
I am no developer myself, but here it is laid out on how to make a ROM that supports most Moto Mods, this seemed a bit buried and hard to find, but seems extremely useful as if someone has already done the nitty gritty work:
There is a detailed Mod Porting tutorial at the bottom of this thread:
> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72601804&postcount=2 <
And I don't know if this is possible but it would also be great to have something like a flashable zip or base that supported Moto Mods for treble or/GSI ROMS in the future.
If anyone can get a Pie rom working with MODS soon enough, you'll beat Motorola to it. Think about that... you could work for them, because sadly it's something they haven't accomplished yet lol.
This should be in MOTO Z2 PLAY GUIDES, NEWS, & DISCUSSION.
Try looking, it has been explained before why we only have battery mod support. Besides, development is dead, there are no Devs now.
Cupcake 1.5 said:
Try looking, it has been explained before why we only have battery mod support. Besides, development is dead, there are no Devs now.
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I looked and I found that it is possible to have more than the battery mod support, hence this post. The ROM I am on now, lineage 15.1 (Oreo 8.1 with November security patch)> works with my projector mode also.
Past custom Roms have also supported more than the battery mod.
I hope I don't have to explain the concept of looking to you, there are no Devs currently, development is not dead, they are waiting for/working on Pie. That you would know if you have been looking and reading the forums and posts by Devs.
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This should be in MOTO Z2 PLAY GUIDES, NEWS, & DISCUSSION.
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Tell me, where is it more likely to be seen by Devs?
MusicAlleyInc said:
I looked and I found that it is possible to have more than the battery mod support, hence this post. The ROM I am on now, lineage 15.1 (Oreo 8.1 with November security patch)> works with my projector mode also.
Past custom Roms have also supported more than the battery mod.
I hope I don't have to explain the concept of looking to you, there are no Devs currently, development is not dead, they are waiting for/working on Pie. That you would know if you have been looking and reading the forums and posts by Devs.
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For your information, one of the old Devs here said only battery mod for z2 play because the other mods caused too many problems on custom ROMs. Also, nobody is working on pie on xda for z2p. The Devs that where here all left, they are not waiting, they moved on.
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For your information, one of the old Devs here said only battery mod for z2 play because the other mods caused too many problems on custom ROMs. Also, nobody is working on pie on xda for z2p. The Devs that where here all left, they are not waiting, they moved on.
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Even tho I have proof of the projector mod working very stable on my phone on lineage 15.1 January security update???? And other mods in the link I supplied in the post??? Cool story...
The whole point of this post was to help devs like that accomplish it. I am guessing this is one reason why many give up...You have no idea how incorrect you are obviously, I have read 2 devs for these mod compatible ROMS state they were waiting for Pie. Because 8.1 is sufficiently accomplished now. Waiting= no current activity/posts/8.1 updates. I just technically had a dev here work on lineage 15.1 for me yesterday, compiling the new security update.
Want the link to this best ROM for the phone right now or can you LOOK for it by yourself? Thanks to me it's really not hard to find.
MusicAlleyInc said:
Even tho I have proof of the projector mod working very stable on my phone on lineage 15.1 January security update???? And other mods in the link I supplied in the post??? Cool story...
The whole point of this post was to help devs like that accomplish it. I am guessing this is one reason why many give up...You have no idea how incorrect you are obviously, I have read 3 devs for these mod compatible ROMS state they were waiting for Pie. Because 8.1 is sufficiently accomplished now. Waiting= no current activity/posts/8.1 updates. I just had a dev here work in lineage 15.1 for me yesterday, compiling the new security update.
Want the link to this best ROM for the phone right now or can you LOOK for it by yourself? Thanks to me it's really not hard to find.
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I was going to respond to your misunderstandings but, had to much of a giggle at your progressive edits to further attack me. Goodbye, no time for you.
Please explain this misunderstanding of mine:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/development/rom-lineageos-15-1-t3731228/page42
And look where that got me. 2 stable mods, 8.1 64 bit, January security patch and even a microg version.
Again I will add another screenshot taken from the post about mod compatibility.
...
Fact: A Dev compiled a security update for lineage albus yesterday. Another made a microg variant a few weeks ago.
Fact: the link in this post is how stable mod support can be accomplished.
Cupcake 1.5 said:
Try looking, it has been explained before why we only have battery mod support. Besides, development is dead, there are no Devs now.
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K.O.
This was your original comment, you were clearly claiming we only have battery mod support now, and why that is.
On a post containing information to why that is not, and how we can achieve more than that.
Like wow...
MusicAlleyInc said:
K.O.
This was your original comment, you were clearly claiming we only have battery mod support now, and why that is.
On a post containing information to why that is not, and how we can achieve more than that.
Like wow...
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Correct, I was claiming based on the last information I had from a Dev. And you seem to have found the answer, I stand corrected. Finished?
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Correct, I was claiming based on the last information I had from a Dev. And you seem to have found the answer, I stand corrected. Finished?
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Sure, please enjoy the ROM.
I was initially perturbed mostly because you told me to go look, when I had already spent countless hours looking and finding. Thanks for acknowledging this.
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Tell me, where is it more likely to be seen by Devs?
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It's gonna be more likely to be seen in the right thread section (as now). Otherwise it looks like you believe that you are higher than the rules we all here try to respect (the convenient thing is to keep each section ordered).
Have a nice day. :good:
guys, guuuys !! You done bickering, have you?
Now please have a look back at your posts, they look better, don`t they?
Further inflammatory posts containing disrespectful and useless remarks like "stupid, idiotic, butt-hurt" and so on will be removed and not only edited would also unleash some "respectful" pm`s straight to your inbox.
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Tell me, where is it more likely to be seen by Devs?
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if it is a discussion then it must take place in this section, and "to be more visible" this is up to the level of conversation, what needs to be seen it will be always seen.
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Please keep it civil and enjoy the forums.
Thank you!
as long as the topic has drastically changed its direction and no one is interested anymore, I`ll be closing it.
I have nicely requested to keep it civil but it seems that no one cares. @MusicAlleyInc message me please when you think this thread can continue on the topic that has been created and I will reopen it.
Thanks for understanding
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