We have a few Note 4X in use. The devices are all the same, same build, same software and same hardware parts.
But the Colour Temperature is different, although the colour settings are the same. The setting is on all devices in the middle: Natural or Standard (not warm, not cool).
How is it possible to adjust or calibrate, that in the setting "Natural" or "Standard", the colour temperature is on all Note 4X devices the same?
mi_eu said:
We have a few Note 4X in use. The devices are all the same, same build, same software and same hardware parts.
But the Colour Temperature is different, although the colour settings are the same. The setting is on all devices in the middle: Natural or Standard (not warm, not cool).
How is it possible to adjust or calibrate, that in the setting "Natural" or "Standard", the colour temperature is on all Note 4X devices the same?
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There are 2 different LCD panels installed in Note 4/4x - Tianma and BOE, they are slightly different. If you want to calibrate then root and use kernel with KCAL support.
k3lcior said:
There are 2 different LCD panels installed in Note 4/4x - Tianma and BOE, they are slightly different. If you want to calibrate then root and use kernel with KCAL support.
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Thx, but I know that there exists BOE and Tianma Displays for the Note 4X. As I wrote above, mine is a BOA Display.
Now, how can I calibrate - WITHOUT root?
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If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Xiaomi Mi A1's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I don't know how to check/test color accuracy. But side to ide with my op5, looks very dull.
i also found the colors to be pretty washed out but thought it was because of it being an lcd and not an amoled. I just installed lineage os and you can tune the colors to whatever you like. it certainly looks very different. I am satisfied now. It looks better to me than the note 2 and the lg g5 which are the only devices I can compare it to.
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i also found the colors to be pretty washed out but thought it was because of it being an lcd and not an amoled. I just installed lineage os and you can tune the colors to whatever you like. it certainly looks very different. I am satisfied now. It looks better to me than the note 2 and the lg g5 which are the only devices I can compare it to.
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I totally agree. This was the single reason to my for flashing a custom rom. My display is made by Tianma and was calibrated way too cold.
After installing LOS 15.1 and voidkernel i used kernel adiutor to calibrate de colors and saturation. This is my color profile: RGB=237,238,252 Saturation=45.
Some more good profile for our device..
Who else have different configuration please share it with us
yeah will be nice people able to reach good result, share theyr screen configuration!!!
I don't think that sharing color profiles would be very useful. Mi A1 is a low budget phone with different types of displays from different manufacturers. Each display will have another tint, so you can't really compare color values. My display was very blueish, I had to reduce blue and green in order to get a proper calibrated screen.
So, maybe you can suggest software/way to calibrate good the display?
riccetto80 said:
So, maybe you can suggest software/way to calibrate good the display?
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There are different ways. You could either flash a custom rom with display adjustment capabilities, like LinageOS or RR. Or you just flash a custom kernel and calbirate the screen with Kernel Adiutor.
Mi 5x has much better display
LoVeRice said:
Mi 5x has much better display
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They have the exact same hardware (screen included), so how can Mi 5x can be much better?
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They have the exact same hardware (screen included), so how can Mi 5x can be much better?
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the MIUI launcher..
it has a software that can change / manipulate the screen "color" output
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the MIUI launcher..
it has a software that can change / manipulate the screen "color" output
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Well, it is possible to easily root Mi A1 and then adjust the colour, so I don't see a problem here
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They have the exact same hardware (screen included), so how can Mi 5x can be much better?
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they have not the same exact display, because both (mi a1 - Mi 5x) can have 2-3 different screen model.
riccetto80 said:
they have not the same exact display, because both (mi a1 - Mi 5x) can have 2-3 different screen model.
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Well yeah, I forgot to mention that. What I meant is that you still get one of these screen models on both devices
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Well, it is possible to easily root Mi A1 and then adjust the colour, so I don't see a problem here
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yes sir, it is possible..
in my point of view, after a few months my eyes adjust itself to the "color scheme" of the MiA1..
wawing_b said:
yes sir, it is possible..
in my point of view, after a few months my eyes adjust itself to the "color scheme" of the MiA1..
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Same for me .... I don't think it's that bad....
Hi guys
Can someone help me out understand something? When I bought the pace I really was not aware that it had such a low resolution when the watch was not active. I know it uses a transreflective LCD.
I understand that amoled screens waste more battery for lighter colors because black does not turn on any pixels.
LCDs on the other hand waste more battery regardless of color because it is the backlight that consumes battery right?
What about this transreflective LCD? I don't understand why the watch uses an 8 bit color pallet on the lockscreen and why does this save battery? Shouldn't the backlight be the only thing that consumes more battery? If it is just displaying and image (whether it is high or low resolution), shouldn't the battery consumption be the same for both?
Can someone clarify this for me? I tried searching but could not find anything..
Transflective mode reflects ambient light without using the back light hence the name.
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Transflective mode reflects ambient light without using the back light hence the name.
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I know that, but that's not what I asked. On traditional LCDs it is the backlight that consumes battery regardless of the resolution correct? On transflective screens, whether the backlight is active or not, why does the watch switch to low resolution on lockscreen and why does that affect battery? Because on traditional LCDs the resolution displayed does not affect battery right?
I don't think it switches to low resolution (otherwise small text would become unreadable which clearly is not the case) . It's just colors looking washed out because now it's only reflecting light.
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I don't think it switches to low resolution (otherwise small text would become unreadable which clearly is not the case) . It's just colors looking washed out because now it's only reflecting light.
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I don't know it it switches to low resolution but from what i read it changes to an 8-bit color pallet, that is why it looks "low quality". What I wanted to know is why does that save battery since traditional LCDs don't have this issue..
This interested me as well and I found out it uses a MiP (memory-in-pixel) transflective LCD display (LPM013M091A). I haven't done much research on how exactly it saves power between those two modes but basically it's a memory limitation in a display itself so it switches between 8 or 262k color palette. As I understand it's not 8-bit color but actually just 8 colors in low power so that's why it only looks like low resolution.
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I don't know it it switches to low resolution but from what i read it changes to an 8-bit color pallet, that is why it looks "low quality". What I wanted to know is why does that save battery since traditional LCDs don't have this issue..
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I think it just uses the 8 color mode to improve contrast and be more readable in low light as the background light is off...
I don't think so. This is just how MiP displays work. They save power similarly to e-paper displays like the ones used in Pebble watches.
According to specifications in MiP mode (8 colors) the consumption is 0.8mW and in Normal Driving mode (262k colors) 9mW for still image and 13mW for moving image and backlight is unrelated and separate from display modes and contrast is the same but as I understand in MiP mode it can only display the maximum intensity pixel colors so it may look sometimes (depending on a watchface and ambient light) that contrast only seems better.
There are also MiP only mode displays as well. The one used in this watch is a hybrid type and it's just a hardware limitation in a display itself for these low power consumption LCDs.
Also maybe it's good to keep in mind that these also suffer from burn-ins if the same image is displayed for prolonged time so it might be prudent to change watchfaces from time to time.
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I think it just uses the 8 color mode to improve contrast and be more readable in low light as the background light is off...
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I don't think so. This is just how MiP displays work. They save power similarly to e-paper displays like the ones used in Pebble watches.
According to specifications in MiP mode (8 colors) the consumption is 0.8mW and in Normal Driving mode (262k colors) 9mW for still image and 13mW for moving image and backlight is unrelated and separate from display modes and contrast is the same but as I understand in MiP mode it can only display the maximum intensity pixel colors so it may look sometimes (depending on a watchface and ambient light) that contrast only seems better.
There are also MiP only mode displays as well. The one used in this watch is a hybrid type and it's just a hardware limitation in a display itself for these low power consumption LCDs.
Also maybe it's good to keep in mind that these also suffer from burn-ins if the same image is displayed for prolonged time so it might be prudent to change watchfaces from time to time.
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Great info, thanks. But why 8 colors mode would use less power than 262k colors if it's the same resolution? Could you please link to the source of the power consumption in both color modes? TIA
EDIT: I've found this: http://www.j-display.com/product/pdf/Datasheet/6LPM013M091A_specification_ver03.pdf
So it seems that they are two completely different modes: MiP with 8 colors and transflective with 262k colors.
Yea, that's the display technical specifications. This is where I got the power consumption modes:
http://www.j-display.com/product/pdf/Leaflet/6LL_1.34_round_LPM013M091A.pdf
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Great info, thanks. But why 8 colors mode would use less power than 262k colors if it's the same resolution? Could you please link to the source of the power consumption in both color modes? TIA
EDIT: I've found this: http://www.j-display.com/product/pdf/Datasheet/6LPM013M091A_specification_ver03.pdf
So it seems that they are two completely different modes: MiP with 8 colors and transflective with 262k colors.
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If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Samsung Galaxy Note 9's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
It would also be helpful if people posting in here would compare the Note 9's color accuracy to the S9/S9+ and/or of course the Note 8 too.
I'm so tired of Samsung inconsistencies with screen colors. Note 9 On top and note 8on bottom. To me the note 8 seems to have the better cleaner whites. The note 9 seems to be pushing a dirty white even compared to my iPhone x. Setting to maximum brightness indoors the iPhone x gets the brightest.
I got my Note 9 yesterday and I immediately noticed that my Note 8 has more vibrant colors. Note 9 seems slightly washed out compared to it. All settings are exactly the same on both phones.
So how are these getting rated as the most amazing, accurate screen ever? It clearly isn't based on the images in this thread... Or are these just isolated cases?
I think the "Basic" setting looks pretty good. The default "Adaptive" mode is terrible. WAY oversaturated.
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I got my Note 9 yesterday and I immediately noticed that my Note 8 has more vibrant colors. Note 9 seems slightly washed out compared to it. All settings are exactly the same on both phones.
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Lol same here.
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When viewing the screen at anything over a 30 degree angle, I get a very slight blue tint. Is that normal?
JuicyBrah said:
When viewing the screen at anything over a 30 degree angle, I get a very slight blue tint. Is that normal?
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Yep
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Yeah... This is kinda annoying. I don't recall my S8 doing this anywhere near as bad.
I noticed the colors didn't pop and weren't overly vibrant like my S8. The Note 9 I believe are much more true and accurate.
I came from using an LG V20 for just over a year and a half. The screen on that one wasn't bad but the burn in was unreal after about 6 months of using it. I have to say that I love this Note 9 screen, it's sad to hear some users say the Note 8's is better
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I came from using an LG V20 for just over a year and a half. The screen on that one wasn't bad but the burn in was unreal after about 6 months of using it. I have to say that I love this Note 9 screen, it's sad to hear some users say the Note 8's is better
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I don't agree with some of the users here. I got both phones, and believe me the Note 9 screen is better than the Note 8, not enough to blow the Note 8 out of the water but it is better.
Both phones are amazing pieces of technology, and any one can be happy with either of them, but to say that the Note 8 has better display is very inaccurate.
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I don't agree with some of the users here. I got both phones, and believe me the Note 9 screen is better than the Note 8, not enough to blow the Note 8 out of the water but it is better.
Both phones are amazing pieces of technology, and any one can be happy with either of them, but to say that the Note 8 has better display is very inaccurate.
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Fingers crossed it was because my n8 screen was more "aged" that it looked better. Either way, it is what it is. Now I just compared my old note 8 and my wife's note 8 to my note 9 screen again.
When comparing the brightness slider bar on the note 8 compared to the note 9, the note 8 appears to be much brighter with same screen mod and given slider values than the note 9. Even turned fully up to Max brightness the note 8 was brighter.
Someone also who has an n8 should compare.. I just compared two note 8s to my note 9.
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my "basic" setting feel like washed out and the colour seems dull and yellowish.. is that my screen problem? able to change new unit?
with adaptive display screen mode is much better
alexchin91 said:
my "basic" setting feel like washed out and the colour seems dull and yellowish.. is that my screen problem? able to change new unit?
with adaptive display screen mode is much better
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Basic always looks like that lol.
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Custom kernel would allow complete control over color and saturation. Not sure why samsung doesn't offer it in stock setup. EVERY screen varies. Not just phone screens, but all including TV's.
What's this best setting for best display?
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Custom kernel would allow complete control over color and saturation. Not sure why samsung doesn't offer it in stock setup. EVERY screen varies. Not just phone screens, but all including TV's.
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So true.
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I'm so tired of Samsung inconsistencies with screen colors. Note 9 On top and note 8on bottom. To me the note 8 seems to have the better cleaner whites. The note 9 seems to be pushing a dirty white even compared to my iPhone x. Setting to maximum brightness indoors the iPhone x gets the brightest.
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Well, in auto brightness mode, the Note9 is brighter than iPhoneX. But of course you have to test it under direct light.
Hello. Can the owners of the Redmi Note 9 please inform the display manufacturer of the device? I have a Redmi note 7 with image retention and my unit uses a Tianma display, which seems to be bound for problems of image retention. And even so, Xiaomi/Redmi hasn't given up on this manufacturer still.
If you don't know how to, please use this guide:
https://all-spares.com/en/articles-and-video/how-to-check-the-lcd-vendor-in-xiaomi-smartphones.html
Thank you very much.
mine redmi note 9s global, huaxing panel ft8756
Mine huaxing
My Redmi Note 9S is huaxing
I think the majority of RMN9S sold globally is used huaxing panel
RMN9s Vietnam huaxing panel
https://youtu.be/AG8S6WSjJ-A?t=42
I didn't understand what the guy said (language), but it's clear there is image retention on his unit. Sadly, no hope for better Xiaomi/Redmi LCD panels.
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https://youtu.be/AG8S6WSjJ-A?t=42
I didn't understand what the guy said (language), but it's clear there is image retention on his unit. Sadly, no hope for better Xiaomi/Redmi LCD panels.
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he mentioned two major problem of lcd panel. 1) pixels burning like amoled screens (he shows putting keyboard on for 30 min and it burned on display). 2) Edge bleeding specially near camera cut and whole boarder of phone.
I don't know is true ? somebody please confirm this. (this redmi is indian version shown in youtube video)
To be honest my old oneplus 3 has good colors than nord 2.
Because most of the phones today prefer to have good and calibrated colours rather than punchy and over-satured.
You still can go to the colour screen settings menu and choose "Vivid" instead of "Gentle" for more saturated colours on the Nord 2
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Because most of the phones today prefer to have good and calibrated colours rather than punchy and over-satured.
You still can go to the colour screen settings menu and choose "Vivid" instead of "Gentle" for more saturated colours on the Nord 2
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vivid is still not look good bro. Even mi 11x has saturated. I used to see saturated colors on my previous devices so disappointed with that. For me it's like the colors are dull buts it's okay. I'll get used to it.
On the vivid setting the colours are obnoxiously over-saturated and wrong...
... Perhaps you have some sort of color-blindness? The colors are plenty saturated.
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On the vivid setting the colours are obnoxiously over-saturated and wrong...
... Perhaps you have some sort of color-blindness? The colors are plenty saturated
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I have used many devices but the nord 2 colors is good but not great. Even comparing to my oneplus 3 nord 2 not good to be honest. The colors are preference but disappointed. There is no issues with the display it's just the software does not have that option.
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I have used many devices but the nord 2 colors is good but not great. Even comparing to my oneplus 3 nord 2 not good to be honest. The colors are preference but disappointed. There is no issues with the display it's just the software does not have that option.
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The ""gentile"" color profile seems accurate to me, but well, i came from a Mi 9T Pro
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The ""gentile"" color profile seems accurate to me, but well, i came from a Mi 9T Pro
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The thing that am disappointed is my old oneplus 3 display is much brighter and has better colors . I'll get used to it. can you able to see the display at direct sunlight?
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The thing that am disappointed is my old oneplus 3 display is much brighter and has better colors
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According to reviews the Oneplus3 has much more worse color accuracy (too much saturated) and is less bright
Oneplus 3 :
max brightness = 420 cd/m²
color accuracy = deltaE 6.0 (normal) & 3.1 (sRGB) (less is better)
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633 cd/m²
deltaE 3.6 (vivid) & 2.1 (gentle)
Saturated fake colors are a thing from the past, today phones tend to go to accurate colors. They are less pleasant/saturated to the eye but at least they are accurate to reality.
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According to reviews the Oneplus3 has much more worse color accuracy (too much saturated) and is less bright
Oneplus 3 :
max brightness = 420 cd/m²
color accuracy = deltaE 6.0 (normal) & 3.1 (sRGB) (less is better)
Oneplus Nord 2 :
633 cd/m²
deltaE 3.6 (vivid) & 2.1 (gentle)
Saturated fake colors are a thing from the past, today phones tend to go to accurate colors. They are less pleasant/saturated to the eye but at least they are accurate to reality.
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Thanks for the info really helpful