Well that was a very tough release to watch online.
The biggest question I have is how is that screen when compared to a note 8. Also, have they improved the software experience?
Considering they cheaped out on the Pro screen because of "performance and battery life", it will not match up to the Note 8.
I'm a disappointed that the Mate 10/ Pro will not be having the dual sim and a dedicated micro sd card feature.
I have lost hope that the industry has a clue about smartphones that make sense. They introduce useless hardware/software features and bloated OSes and instead of sticking to the basics they rely on cunsumers' stupidity/weakness and on deteriorating the UI so that StupidPhones are enforced.
All I wanted (not from Huawei) was a Samsung Note 3 with modern hardware (better CPU, recent WiFi/Bluetooth, better DAC/camera/stylus/screen, more robust body, etc). User replaceable battery that lasts, capacitive and non-cheap-feeling physical buttons, dual sim, SDCard, 3.5mm jack, mate-finish, wireless charging, USB-C, OIS, h/w and s/w to support note taking with a stylus, IR, open bootloader, etc is my thing, not shiny/reflective backs, bezeless designs, selfies cameras that try to outsmart you, OS/apps that are spyware, ...
Nobody will deliver, my only chance is to become rich and get a company to build a proper phone for me.
Pro is nonsense of a phone and I won't go into any details on it, but non-pro (Mate 10) is quite good except for the glossy finish. I love the fact that at least one major phone producer has kept the 16:9 aspect ratio going. This is the first "new" phone which actually would feel like upgrade screen size wise when coming from a 5.5"+ capacitive button phone like OP5/P10+ because here you actually get to use those 5.9 inches fully and you are not cheated with them ****ing on screen buttons, rounded corners, fat side bessels, black bars on video playback or missing parts of video due to zoom-ins/cropped videos (samsungs solution @18:9.5 aspect ratio when on youtube for example).
So this feature (16:9 and option to remove on screen buttons and use home button with gestures (tap to get back, hold for home, swipe for recents) alone makes Mate 10 stand out. Unfortunately 18:9/9.5 aspect ratio seems a trend that is likely to stay.
18:9/9.5 IMO opinion was the easiest way for producers to lure consumers into buying supposedly larger phones, where actually many older 5.5" (above 70% screen to body ratio) phones with capacitive buttons offer more screen real estate than for example that hot-dog looking 5.8" phone with on screen buttons and rounded corners.
IMO, the right way was to maximize efforts and try to create the biggest possible beze-less screen on a 16:9 aspect ratio screen and this is what Huawei has tried with Mate 10, so cheers to them! If it wasn't for that shiny glossy back cover I would run to Huawei factory to get one
i think Huawei missed an opportunity to go top of the pile. YES on battery, YES on specs (mostly - why did they drop MicroSD?), yes on Camera, but a big NO on screen resolution. Of course, if they charge $700 then its a big win, but if pricing is close to Pixel XL2 or Note 8 then I cant understand why anyone would go for a device with lower resolution that will devalue worse than any other device out there. im disappointed.
Bezel less display, 4000mha battery, Oled screen 128GB storage, monthly updates, Ir Blaster i'm stoked for the 10 pro!
I think the standard 10 is what ive been looking for.
6 inches of 16:9 screen is exactly what ive been looking for in a flag ship since my nexus 6. Not a fan of the 18:9.
The only thing i have not been able to find out is whether they kept the "stereo" speakers working like on the mate 9. Both bottom firing and ear piece for media.
I couldn't watch the entire launch..they really need to get someone with a better command of the English language. He was very difficult to understand for me.
A for effort however and doing a big presentation like that in a language which is not your native one must be extremely difficult.
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force70 said:
6 inches of 16:9 screen is exactly what ive been looking for in a flag ship since my nexus 6. Not a fan of the 18:9.
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Totally agree. Nexus 6 imo was a phone ahead of its time. At the time I thought its way too big/too bulky and never actually buy it although there aren't many phones I've skipped throughout the years. Mate 10 is Nexus 6 2017 edition
I am getting Mate 10 although I hate its gloss finish and I am not sure which color option would be the best looking and least finger print magnet.
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Pro is nonsense of a phone and I won't go into any details on it, but non-pro (Mate 10) is quite good except for the glossy finish. I love the fact that at least one major phone producer has kept the 16:9 aspect ratio going. This is the first "new" phone which actually would feel like upgrade screen size wise when coming from a 5.5"+ capacitive button phone like OP5/P10+ because here you actually get to use those 5.9 inches fully and you are not cheated with them ****ing on screen buttons, rounded corners, fat side bessels, black bars on video playback or missing parts of video due to zoom-ins/cropped videos (samsungs solution @18:9.5 aspect ratio when on youtube for example).
So this feature (16:9 and option to remove on screen buttons and use home button with gestures (tap to get back, hold for home, swipe for recents) alone makes Mate 10 stand out. Unfortunately 18:9/9.5 aspect ratio seems a trend that is likely to stay.
18:9/9.5 IMO opinion was the easiest way for producers to lure consumers into buying supposedly larger phones, where actually many older 5.5" (above 70% screen to body ratio) phones with capacitive buttons offer more screen real estate than for example that hot-dog looking 5.8" phone with on screen buttons and rounded corners.
IMO, the right way was to maximize efforts and try to create the biggest possible beze-less screen on a 16:9 aspect ratio screen and this is what Huawei has tried with Mate 10, so cheers to them! If it wasn't for that shiny glossy back cover I would run to Huawei factory to get one
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just get a nice skin on amazon for the back of the phone and you're good to go!!
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i think Huawei missed an opportunity to go top of the pile. YES on battery, YES on specs (mostly - why did they drop MicroSD?), yes on Camera, but a big NO on screen resolution. Of course, if they charge $700 then its a big win, but if pricing is close to Pixel XL2 or Note 8 then I cant understand why anyone would go for a device with lower resolution that will devalue worse than any other device out there. im disappointed.
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Imo the should go at least 2k on mate 10 pro, I think 95% of smartphone users don't need more than that, don't ask for more than that, and wont take advantage for anything higher than a 2k resolution in a smartphone screen anyways.
I was hoping to sell my note 8 but what's the point.
Apple makes the rules. Don't know why they keep following their trend.
They finally give is the qhd but started taking away features.
I normally buy on release but I buy second hand in december/January when it's half off.
intruda119 said:
I was hoping to sell my note 8 but what's the point.
Apple makes the rules. Don't know why they keep following their trend.
They finally give is the qhd but started taking away features.
I normally buy on release but I buy second hand in december/January when it's half off.
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i cant see the point of swapping from my Note 8 either. Not yet, anyway.
They really messed up the two models.
I wonder what went on to make them do this.
I'm guessing it was a combination of several desires and issues.
Probably wanted a lower priced model, wanted all OLED but couldn't get enough and then wouldn't meet the price point they wanted, weren't sure about going all-in with the new screen ratio, etc, etc..
I really wish they offered OLED with a headphone jack, DAC and SD card, front fingerprint reader is better too.
I can't buy either of these phones.
I just won't go back to LCD. It's inferior technology.
Otherwise that regular mate 10 is great..
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I'm a disappointed that the Mate 10/ Pro will not be having the dual sim and a dedicated micro sd card feature.
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Mate has dual 4G sim cards. However I haven't found any conformation if Mate 10 Pro has dual sim active (like Mate 8) or passive (like Mate 9). Can both cards be used simultaneously for data and phone calls or two 3G phone calls (not VoLTE) on different sim cards ? Any does this concern all the variants (including Chinese).
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Mate has dual 4G sim cards. However I haven't found any conformation if Mate 10 Pro has dual sim active (like Mate 8) or passive (like Mate 9). Can both cards be used simultaneously for data and phone calls or two 3G phone calls (not VoLTE) on different sim cards ? Any does this concern all the variants (including Chinese).
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Why would they call it "world's first" if the setup was the same as any other ? So it has to be 4G dual sim active.
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My only complaint is that the Mate 10 (not the Pro) should be FullHD and not 1440p. Or at least, an option to switch like the Galaxy.
I prefer battery life and definitely can't tell the difference.
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My only complaint is that the Mate 10 (not the Pro) should be FullHD and not 1440p. Or at least, an option to switch like the Galaxy.
I prefer battery life and definitely can't tell the difference.
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I have seen screenshot of Mate 10 with option to switch to FHD and HD. It has been on EMUI for a long time.
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I have seen screenshot of Mate 10 with option to switch to FHD and HD. It has been on EMUI for a long time.
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That's great, didn't know that. So I guess I have nothing to say haha
Thanks for the information, btw.
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I prefer battery life and definitely can't tell the difference.
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So do I
After checking the both out i think i prefer the Mate 10to the pro, think i will go for it. Then read its not coming to the UK :crying:. Anybody have advice on how/where i can get a working model from and if its doable?.
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OK, I think a lot of you are here from a note or note 2, am I wrong?
I came from a Tmobile note 2. When i saw the original note 2, i was hooked on the big screen phones. People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
Now, onto the specifics of the phone. Yes, I think it is a tiny bit slower that the note 2, but still, in some benchmarks it did even better than the note 2. And my test is, can i download using torrents (which suck the processor and ram) and still listen to skip free music, browse the web and navigate the phone. This champ can.
The screen is awesome. it just hits you its so bright. I would have loved a 1080 but hey...
Battery life is great. Ive got a few extra off brands until the oem's come out (if they ever do) but Ive said this before, If i have a 3,200 and a smaller phone has a 2,000-2,500. When the screens are on, we are evenly matched. But the screen is not always on. So when its off, we are both running the same radios and processors, but i have a bigger battery. People don't realize this.
I don't know about you early adopters, but i just paid 515 US, no tax for mine. I think that's pretty good.
Oh, the stares. I was one of the Note 1 early adopters. I loved all the attention and envy that poured in on all sides, call me shallow, but i loved it. Its been diminishing for a long time now, becayse the note 2 was basically around the same size and it came to all the carriers. The feeling is back in full force now. That's what you get for going up an inch.
The functionality of having a pocket-able big screen phone is amazing. It's a small pocket-able tablet, that also handles my calls and texts. You basically give up one handed use at this point, even though i have big hands, but you gain in every area; typing, watching videos, gaming, surfing, any app....
I'm curious how unpopular this phone actually is.... There is basically zero devs here. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been out for a month...
On a similar note, the lack of the Samsung battery/charger anywhere on the web is pissing me off. I like having the ability to keep batteries charges externally so my phone doesn't have to be tethered to an outlet. You just swap out the batteries and your back at 100%.
Discuss.
mottyengel said:
OK, I think a lot of you are here from a note or note 2, am I wrong?
I came from a Tmobile note 2. When i saw the original note 2, i was hooked on the big screen phones. People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
Now, onto the specifics of the phone. Yes, I think it is a tiny bit slower that the note 2, but still, in some benchmarks it did even better than the note 2. And my test is, can i download using torrents (which suck the processor and ram) and still listen to skip free music, browse the web and navigate the phone. This champ can.
The screen is awesome. it just hits you its so bright. I would have loved a 1080 but hey...
Battery life is great. Ive got a few extra off brands until the oem's come out (if they ever do) but Ive said this before, If i have a 3,200 and a smaller phone has a 2,000-2,500. When the screens are on, we are evenly matched. But the screen is not always on. So when its off, we are both running the same radios and processors, but i have a bigger battery. People don't realize this.
I don't know about you early adopters, but i just paid 515 US, no tax for mine. I think that's pretty good.
Oh, the stares. I was one of the Note 1 early adopters. I loved all the attention and envy that poured in on all sides, call me shallow, but i loved it. Its been diminishing for a long time now, becayse the note 2 was basically around the same size and it came to all the carriers. The feeling is back in full force now. That's what you get for going up an inch.
The functionality of having a pocket-able big screen phone is amazing. It's a small pocket-able tablet, that also handles my calls and texts. You basically give up one handed use at this point, even though i have big hands, but you gain in every area; typing, watching videos, gaming, surfing, any app....
I'm curious how unpopular this phone actually is.... There is basically zero devs here. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been out for a month...
On a similar note, the lack of the Samsung battery/charger anywhere on the web is pissing me off. I like having the ability to keep batteries charges externally so my phone doesn't have to be tethered to an outlet. You just swap out the batteries and your back at 100%.
Discuss.
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I came from the original Note so I can see and feel a big leap in performance. I guess if you came from a Note 2 then you might not notice any difference or maybe expect so much improvement that you think it's slower. Size wise I am very happy with it, friends and family actually didn't even notice that I'm using a Mega. You can only see the big difference if you set them next to each other, most of the time they see my phone from afar and think it's the Note. If strangers ask, I'll just tell them it's a mini tablet that can make calls rather than a huge smartphone.
Development is slow because they are waiting for a kernel to be developed by Philz and/or Chainfire. It's just been 2 weeks since its been available so I won't worry much about developer support. Right now I've just got root and deleted/uninstalled a lot of bloatware and disabled almost all features so my phone runs very fast. Also, using Foldermount I am able to install apps exceeding the internal storage capacity.
I got 2 extra batteries from eBay which are 3500 mah and I'm okay with the battery life so I'm just using one. As for popularity, I think it will be like the original Note where people started to like it when they saw it being used by others since just looking at the specs of it on paper is not as appealing as holding it in your hand and seeing that huge display for videos and games. Lots of other manufacturers are releasing phones over 6 inches and I'm sure it will be the norm next year.
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I came from the original Note so I can see and feel a big leap in performance. I guess if you came from a Note 2 then you might not notice any difference or maybe expect so much improvement that you think it's slower. Size wise I am very happy with it, friends and family actually didn't even notice that I'm using a Mega. You can only see the big difference if you set them next to each other, most of the time they see my phone from afar and think it's the Note. If strangers ask, I'll just tell them it's a mini tablet that can make calls rather than a huge smartphone.
Development is slow because they are waiting for a kernel to be developed by Philz and/or Chainfire. It's just been 2 weeks since its been available so I won't worry much about developer support. Right now I've just got root and deleted/uninstalled a lot of bloatware and disabled almost all features so my phone runs very fast. Also, using Foldermount I am able to install apps exceeding the internal storage capacity.
I got 2 extra batteries from eBay which are 3500 mah and I'm okay with the battery life so I'm just using one. As for popularity, I think it will be like the original Note where people started to like it when they saw it being used by others since just looking at the specs of it on paper is not as appealing as holding it in your hand and seeing that huge display for videos and games. Lots of other manufacturers are releasing phones over 6 inches and I'm sure it will be the norm next year.
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I didn't realize it had only been two weeks. But yeah, same with me i guess. Rooted, got rid of the bloatware, uninstalled some apps. And now i can use the multi wondow manager.
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People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
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I'm absolutely with you on that one mate. I'm actually hoping the go for the full 7" screen at some point.
I'm currently rocking the Note 2... I have bought a Mega 6.3" for the mrs and I'm waiting to see what the Note 3 will bring. However I think the Note 3 will be around 6" so the largest top spec device is going to be the Xperia X Ultra for some time, so thats what Im planning on going for (despite the limitations of non removable battery an no flash)... I'd love a 6.5 or 7" Note with small bezels, removable battery etc but I just cant see it being an option this year..
I do predict though that next year we will see some genuine top notch 7" convergence devices. Even with the new Xperia X Ultra if they had trimmed the top and bottom bezels they could have almost fitted a 7" screen into the same footprint. It would have to be "marginally" wider of course. Exciting times ahead I think. I know the tech industry moves fast, but its not moving fast enough for me lol
Bold move by Sony though. At least they are genuinely trying, even if they haven't quite hit it on the head yet.
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I'm absolutely with you on that one mate. I'm actually hoping the go for the full 7" screen at some point.
I'm currently rocking the Note 2... I have bought a Mega 6.3" for the mrs and I'm waiting to see what the Note 3 will bring. However I think the Note 3 will be around 6" so the largest top spec device is going to be the Xperia X Ultra for some time, so thats what Im planning on going for (despite the limitations of non removable battery an no flash)... I'd love a 6.5 or 7" Note with small bezels, removable battery etc but I just cant see it being an option this year..
I do predict though that next year we will see some genuine top notch 7" convergence devices. Even with the new Xperia X Ultra if they had trimmed the top and bottom bezels they could have almost fitted a 7" screen into the same footprint. It would have to be "marginally" wider of course. Exciting times ahead I think. I know the tech industry moves fast, but its not moving fast enough for me lol
Bold move by Sony though. At least they are genuinely trying, even if they haven't quite hit it on the head yet.
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I hear what you're saying, and I love the large screens, but that Xperia Ultra looks TOO damn big. I think they crossed the line with that one. I think that 6" is perfect for me, but i'm willing to do the Mega 6.3 because Samsung made it so thin and it looks stylish. But the Xperia Ultra kinda looks like a small brick. lol
This would be an ideal device for me if it only had apt-x support. Samsung build quality, large battery, great display, no Exynos(!!).
I have wireless speaker system at home and I use HS3000 headset a lot when I am commuting.
The difference in sound compared to standard Bluetooth A2DP is noticeable.
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This would be an ideal device for me if it only had apt-x support. Samsung build quality, large battery, great display, no Exynos(!!).
I have wireless speaker system at home and I use HS3000 headset a lot when I am commuting.
The difference in sound compared to standard Bluetooth A2DP is noticeable.
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I thought it has apt X support as mentioned in the Engadget review
Anyway, we use Sonos so it's not a requirement for us.
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I hear what you're saying, and I love the large screens, but that Xperia Ultra looks TOO damn big. I think they crossed the line with that one. I think that 6" is perfect for me, but i'm willing to do the Mega 6.3 because Samsung made it so thin and it looks stylish. But the Xperia Ultra kinda looks like a small brick. lol
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I agree and I'd have been happier with the mega form factor. Lets hope they see fit to outfit it with top specs at a later point.
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I agree and I'd have been happier with the mega form factor. Lets hope they see fit to outfit it with top specs at a later point.
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Here is a video of the Xperia ZU pocket test. I don't think you can walk comfortably with that in your pocket let alone sit or put it in your shirt pocket unlike the Mega. Even the ads for it never show it being put in the pocket, just in bags. The difference in screen size is just 0.1 inch (2.54 mm) which is almost negligible and for that small increase you get a phone that is 2.78 square inches bigger than the Mega plus onscreen buttons that take up to 10 mm of the screen. Also, on screen buttons can be a hassle specially when playing games because they are more prone to tapping.
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The price of the Xperia ZU is also questionable at the moment.
You can buy 2 Galaxy Mega 6.3s with over £110 left over with the pre-order price tag.
So how's the Mega like in low light? If you're using it in the bedroom at night with lamps turned off? Is it as bad as the Note 10.1 where light bleeds from the edges and blacks are grey?
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The pocket size is not really an issue for me. I wear loose bottoms most of the time at home/gym and don't even put my current phone (note 2) in my pocket while in the car or at work.
I admit the ultra certainly has its shortcomings, and without dismissing the mega 6.3 (I bought one for the mrs and she loves it), there really is noting else with real top end specs with the same real estate.
Give me a mega 6.3 with a 1080p screen and a snapgragon 800 and I'd be all over it. It just doesn't exist yet. While nobody can really say they really "need" all that extra horsepower I "want" it and thats enough for me to pay a premium. The device itself will only cost me £49 upfront on my current contract which is up for renewal.
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So how's the Mega like in low light? If you're using it in the bedroom at night with lamps turned off? Is it as bad as the Note 10.1 where light bleeds from the edges and blacks are grey?
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I'm using it right now in bed with the lights off and I can't see any light bleed on the screen. The blacks will not be as deep as AMOLED but it's very good. I actually like the fact that it's brighter than my original Note under sunlight and darker at night time which is great for the eyes.
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The pocket size is not really an issue for me. I wear loose bottoms most of the time at home/gym and don't even put my current phone (note 2) in my pocket while in the car or at work.
I admit the ultra certainly has its shortcomings, and without dismissing the mega 6.3 (I bought one for the mrs and she loves it), there really is noting else with real top end specs with the same real estate.
Give me a mega 6.3 with a 1080p screen and a snapgragon 800 and I'd be all over it. It just doesn't exist yet. While nobody can really say they really "need" all that extra horsepower I "want" it and thats enough for me to pay a premium.
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I'm sure the Mega you wish for will be available next year. As for now, I'll enjoy the first gen Mega since I usually change my phone every year. Paying over double the price of the Mega for something which is not over double the advantage is not for me.
^^^^^^^^^ Logically your right of course, but been as my contract is up and its a case of having the mega 6.3 free of charge or paying £49 upfront for the Ultra Im not going to sweat it.. If i had to double down in cold hard cash and buy outright it would be a completely different senario.
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^^^^^^^^^ Logically your right of course, but been as my contract is up and its a case of having the mega 6.3 free of charge or paying £49 upfront for the Ultra Im not going to sweat it.. If i had to double down in cold hard cash and buy outright it would be a completely different senario.
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How much do you pay each month and how long is the contact? Are they already offering the Xperia Z Ultra? What network is this?
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I'm using it right now in bed with the lights off and I can't see any light bleed on the screen. The blacks will not be as deep as AMOLED but it's very good. I actually like the fact that it's brighter than my original Note under sunlight and darker at night time which is great for the eyes.
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Thanks... so what you're saying is that at night in bed you can actually make the Mega less bright than the Note2? If that's the case then it's great.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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How much do you pay each month and how long is the contact? Are they already offering the Xperia Z Ultra? What network is this?
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Im with 3 mobile uk. I pay £36 a month for 2000min 5000texts and unlimited data including teathering. Its a 2 year contract. Its been announced they will carry it in Sept. Upfront prices have been rumoured but not confirmed yet. The plan price will stay the same it always does its just the upfront cost that will vary. The £49 upfront sounds about right.
At the end of my contract I usually cancel and take another contract out with the same carrier through quidco the cash back site and get about 100 cash back
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Thanks... so what you're saying is that at night in bed you can actually make the Mega less bright than the Note2? If that's the case then it's great.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Yes. I need an app to get the original Note's brightness down to acceptable levels at night which I don't need with the Mega.
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Im with 3 mobile uk. I pay £36 a month for 2000min 5000texts and unlimited data including teathering. Its a 2 year contract. Its been announced they will carry it in Sept. Upfront prices have been rumoured but not confirmed yet. The plan price will stay the same it always does its just the upfront cost that will vary. The £49 upfront sounds about right.
At the end of my contract I usually cancel and take another contract out with the same carrier through quidco the cash back site and get about 100 cash back
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I see. So the £49 up front is not official, being the most expensive phablet/smartphone at the moment I expect the upfront cost to be higher.
£36 x 24 months + £49 upfront = £913 is not bad if you use most of the included minutes, texts, and data.
I just use an Ovivo SIM which give me 150 minutes, 250 texts, and 500MB data every month for FREE so I just look at the actual cost of the phone.
^^^^^^^^^ The upfront cost is going to be same as a 32gb or 64gb iphone 5.
The ebay link posted on the previous page is inflated. You can order for Expansys for £639 http://www.androidorigin.com/sony-x...se-date-set-to-september-13-priced-at-639-99/
By comparison the 32gig iphone 5 is £599 and the 64gb is £699. But yeah using that rational the xperia Z Ultra upfront cost should be about £150... Three charge £129 upfront for the 32gig iphone.
Theres not that much difference in their price plans...The basic ones (with devices) start about £30, and the unlimited one is £36. I have been known to download torrents and teather my laptop to the phone so its nice just not to have to worry about worrying out of date etc
How's the loudspeaker compared to the Note2? Let's say if you're showing a YouTube clip to someone... which one is louder?
Brgds...
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How's the loudspeaker compared to the Note2? Let's say if you're showing a YouTube clip to someone... which one is louder?
Brgds...
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I don't have a Note 2 to compare it with but I don't have to put the volume to max when showing youtube videos to others with my Mega 6.3.
Will Mediapad X1 7D-501L firmware, stuck/pause forever with 4.4.2??
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Will Mediapad X1 7D-501L firmware, stuck/pause forever with 4.4.2??
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Maybe... The latest Emotion UI is already 3.0 and thy didn't give to this one with the Kitkat update. If they do make a lollipop update for this one, The new version of this phone might be out. For their old Phablet the Ascend Mate 2 they have the emotion UI 2 update but They are still waiting for the Kitkat update. If only they are as the other companies to update their software Huawei would be bigger outside of China.
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Maybe... The latest Emotion UI is already 3.0 and thy didn't give to this one with the Kitkat update. If they do make a lollipop update for this one, The new version of this phone might be out. For their old Phablet the Ascend Mate 2 they have the emotion UI 2 update but They are still waiting for the Kitkat update. If only they are as the other companies to update their software Huawei would be bigger outside of China.
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That is why, I am afraid of buying Huawei phones.
I hope this X1 wont be stuck with 4.4.2 forever.
Other products like Sony n others, has a good firmware updates.
RaJa BerSiong said:
That is why, I am afraid of buying Huawei phones.
I hope this X1 wont be stuck with 4.4.2 forever.
Other products like Sony n others, has a good firmware updates.
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I do hope they do make the update. for their customers and for their company. also their phones doesn't have NFC w/c i really would like to have. Their phones look nice and have good specs and price. but if they don't follow up with the regular updates of android or their own UI it may cause old Huawei owners to upgrade and buy new Huawei.
IMHO, software versions generally don't impact what you are able to do with the device from day 1.
A Gingerbread device will still let you install apps, make calls, use the camera, upload/download stuff, browse the internet etc.
You bought this device because of the hardware and what the hardware does, not because of the software version. My Note 3 is still on 4.3 from day 1 (1 year ago) with root and Xposed, and I'm completely satisfied with it.
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IMHO, software versions generally don't impact what you are able to do with the device from day 1.
A Gingerbread device will still let you install apps, make calls, use the camera, upload/download stuff, browse the internet etc.
You bought this device because of the hardware and what the hardware does, not because of the software version. My Note 3 is still on 4.3 from day 1 (1 year ago) with root and Xposed, and I'm completely satisfied with it.
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Actually, im still deciding what to buy so i did some research about the x1. if you don't mind me asking you sir. im stuck with the note 3 and this phone the x1. i know the note 3 would be future proof for about a year or two because of its high specs but i like the metal build, screen size and the fact that the x1 has no physical home button because i don't like it. also the price of the x1 here where i'm at is around 140orm and the note 3 has a discounted price of 200orm for the 32gb version. if you would pick one from the two, which would you rather have?
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Actually, im still deciding what to buy so i did some research about the x1. if you don't mind me asking you sir. im stuck with the note 3 and this phone the x1. i know the note 3 would be future proof for about a year or two because of its high specs but i like the metal build, screen size and the fact that the x1 has no physical home button because i don't like it. also the price of the x1 here where i'm at is around 140orm and the note 3 has a discounted price of 200orm for the 32gb version. if you would pick one from the two, which would you rather have?
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I have both. They serve different purposes.
The Note 3 for ease of portability and general browsing. The X1 is for media consumption and work email/VPN access to Microsoft Remote Desktop. That is why different screen sizes serve different purposes.
However, the X1 has better network reception than the Note3.
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Actually, im still deciding what to buy so i did some research about the x1. if you don't mind me asking you sir. im stuck with the note 3 and this phone the x1. i know the note 3 would be future proof for about a year or two because of its high specs but i like the metal build, screen size and the fact that the x1 has no physical home button because i don't like it. also the price of the x1 here where i'm at is around 140orm and the note 3 has a discounted price of 200orm for the 32gb version. if you would pick one from the two, which would you rather have?
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I too have both devices. I actually bought this one because I found the Note 3 screen a bit small for reading PDFs, browsing the web and watching videos. My initial intention was to sell the Note 3 but now I'm not so sure. My feelings on both phones, after a month with the MediaPad X1 and 9 month with the Note 3:
MediaPad X1:
+ The screen size is a joy to use with certain applications and to watch videos. It also allows me to use my thumbs to write on the keyboard in portrait mode. I type much faster this way.
+ Skin tones are rendered more naturally than on AMOLED screens.
+ Battery life. It lasts sooooo much longer than the Note 3.
+ Speaker. Very good sound quality.
- Size. This thing is HUGE. No, let me correct it: GIGANTIC is a more appropriate term. Its main advantage is also its main drawback. The only place it fits is on the back pocket of my jeans and it protrudes like 3-4 cm. Even coat pockets are small for this thing. It is also nearly impossible to answer call with only one hand.
- Poor screen uniformity and washed out blacks.
- Weight. It is noticeably heavier than the Note 3.
- Even tough it fits in my hand (barely), making long calls with it is uncomfortable.
- Support. Huawei's support is a joke and even here on XDA there is little support for this device. This device's user manual is pathetic. There are loads of functionalities that aren't addressed on the manual. The ROMs feel like a rush job with lots of rough edges.
- Only supports memory cards up to 32GB.
- Non removable battery
- No NFC
- On screen home buttons steal a lot of screen space
Note 3:
+ Still fits in my pockets.
+ Blacks are as deep as they get, the screen has perfect uniformity and AMOLED's oversaturated colors are great for games and apps.
+ Support, both from Samsung and here on XDA.
+ Better hardware, better stock ROMs and availability of custom ROMs (if you are into them, which I'm not).
+ Supports cards up to 128 GB
+ Removable battery
+ NFC
+ S-pen (not a deal breaker for me, but it is nice to have)
+ Physical home buttons mean that every single pixel of the screen is used at all times with all applications.
- The screen size is big for a phone but a bit small for certain applications. 6.3" would be a great compromise between the gigantic Mediapad X1 and the not so big Note 3. I owned the Mega 6.3 for a short period and it was just the right compromise. Shame Samgung discontinued it.
- Skin tones are oversaturated and unrealistic, even in Movie, Professional photo (LOL!) or any other display mode meant to desaturate the colors.
- Battery life is O.K. for its class but pales in comparison with the MediaPad X1.
- Better camera
Right now I still haven't decided which one I'll keep but I'll have to make a decision until next week. Whatever I decide, it will be a compromise. The day Samsung makes a Galaxy Note phablet with 6.3" screen and razor thin bezels, I'll have my perfect phone. Until then, I have to make a compromise.
Alexei,
The X1 is not gigantic. It is way smaller than the Nexus 7 and it DOES fit into my work pants front pockets. It even fits in the breast pocket of some of my shirts.
If you want to make long calls, for any phone, the best thing is to sit down compfortably and use a headset whether wired or bluetooth. I participate in hour-long conference calls often, and I have always used a headset. It's bad ergonomics if you don't.
SDcard support - definitely 64Gb is usable in FAT32 format, and I'm sure 128Gb in FAT32 is also usable. I am using a 64Gb card in my X1.
Color reproduction - I don't think you will be looking at a movie that has lots of black in it for most of the movie. Even if you were to be reading comics or black and white manga, most of the screen is white background anyway.
The onscreen buttons in 4.4.2 tend to autohide in media and game playback, so it's not an issue.
As for the rest, I do agree, but I'm not one that chanes devices often, so I'll definitely keep it till the next big thing comes along. *NOT* crapple of course.
Hi joytest,
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The X1 is not gigantic. It is way smaller than the Nexus 7 and it DOES fit into my work pants front pockets. It even fits in the breast pocket of some of my shirts..
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When I meant "gigantic", I was making a comparison with phablet class devices. Of course that if you compare to 7" tablets, the X1 is actually much smaller than the competition. Being big or small will depend from user to user. I'm not a short person but I'm far from being tall or having big hands. My advice to any potential buyer is to try it and decide for themselves.
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If you want to make long calls, for any phone, the best thing is to sit down compfortably and use a headset whether wired or bluetooth. I participate in hour-long conference calls often, and I have always used a headset. It's bad ergonomics if you don't.
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I agree. However, it would be something else to carry in my already filled pockets. At home I use a headset, but on the move I use it with any headset, wired or BT. Again, one should access your his typical uses of the phone.
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SDcard support - definitely 64Gb is usable in FAT32 format, and I'm sure 128Gb in FAT32 is also usable. I am using a 64Gb card in my X1.
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I tried a 64 GB Sandisk Ultra card and the device didn't recognize it. When I inserted a 32 GB card, also a Sandisk Ultra, it was immediately recognized. Both where formatted in FAT32. Which card are you using? I would love to have 64 GB on my X1.
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Color reproduction - I don't think you will be looking at a movie that has lots of black in it for most of the movie. Even if you were to be reading comics or black and white manga, most of the screen is white background anyway.
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I tend to agree with you when you say that most of the times it will not be an issue. However, the difference does exist. My X1 has notorious light bleed around the edges. It is very noticeable with a uniform black screen background. Is my device faulty? How does yours behave?
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The onscreen buttons in 4.4.2 tend to autohide in media and game playback, so it's not an issue..
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Not in media and game playback but you have to hide them manually in all other applications, which I find annoying.
Cheers,
Alex
for 64GB card u can try format first to fat32 at yr PC using mini partition after that format again using yr x1.it work for me .
Update: I've finally made a decision. I'm keeping my Note 3 and selling my MediaPad X1. As much as I love the long battery life and the big screen, it is just no practical to use all day long as a phone. I could live with its other flaws but I'm tired of feeling something this heavy in my pocket, of its cumbersome use for calls and feeling like I'm carrying a small brick in my pants in general. It is a great device if this doesn't bother you.
I'm moving back to the Note 3 forums. To all you gentlemen who I've interacted with in this forum, my best regards.
Good for you. As amazing a device this is, it is not for everyone. I routinely flip between this and other smaller flagship phones but this phone always trumps for battery life and screen size. With a smart watch and headset it is manageable but sometimes I long for a normal 5" or so smartphone in my pocket. Cheers.
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Hi Guys, Does anyone still have the link for this firmware?
Thanks
Hi all
suppose that you didn't buy Galaxy Alpha yet ... would you buy it now ???
please explain why for both answers yes/no ....
don't tell me that the battery is too small because I don't care about this thing at all
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please give some attention to my question .......
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Yes.
The reasons :
+Beautiful design and nice feel
+Excellent 8core processor
+No problems in functionality ( no lags, freezes, restarts, shutdowns)
+I like super amoled screens, the blacks are amazing.
+Good camera in day light (not good in low light conditions though)
+I like powerful compact phones.
+ Priced at 300€ in my country ( one of the most top selling smartphones when the priced dropped) , which makes it the top value for money compact smartphone.
As for your needs , there is a problem and you already know it . The support from devs is little so you will not be able to "play" with custom roms.
No
Now that the S6 is out I would probably have gotten that.
The small battery may be a non-issue for you but for most people, it is a real annoyance. So I would chalk up the battery life to be the top reason I would not get this phone if I hadn't.
yes ... this phone is better than eny other phones.....even better than s6 becuse the s6 has a 2k screen and in the games is not that good...alpha is the best i install cm 12.1 that was awesome and in cm 12.1 battry life was verry good much better than ferench android 5.0 i get 54000 antutu and 1.50 free ram but still cm in the nightly ...im going to keep it for next 4 yers .. i love it
maybe. I would go for the s6 if I had the money
is there cyanogenmod support for galaxy alpha !! it is unofficial as i see on the internet :\ ..
what about the performance of the memory (RAM) & the white colour problem with the camera like these photos & the focus speed of the camera??
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6 in the images=iphone 6...
s6 is costs more than the doubled price of alpha in my country
anyone dropped his phone ? .. as in youtube videos , in drop test, this phone fails & break the glass of the screen by the first drop !
ipred said:
Yes.
The reasons :
+Beautiful design and nice feel
+Excellent 8core processor
+No problems in functionality ( no lags, freezes, restarts, shutdowns)
+I like super amoled screens, the blacks are amazing.
+Good camera in day light (not good in low light conditions though)
+I like powerful compact phones.
+ Priced at 300€ in my country ( one of the most top selling smartphones when the priced dropped) , which makes it the top value for money compact smartphone.
As for your needs , there is a problem and you already know it . The support from devs is little so you will not be able to "play" with custom roms.
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this is really the best phone of 2014 in my opinion!
compact and powerfull and no issues
as a minus, only battery but you dont care about
not to forget a big minus for me is that damn gorilla glass 4 display - after 2 weeks of use i saw 3 superficial scratches and i dont know how they appeared.
i use my phone with the ringke fusion case and alone in my pocket...
for me this is a dillema -how the hell gorilla glass 4 get scratched knowing that no heavy materials pocked the phone...
youtube is full of videos with gorilla glass 4 being resistant to scissors, cutter, keys, etc
my old lg g2 was used with keys in my pocket and display is still untouched, not even a microscratch!
and of course that will not be changed on guarantee, i have talked to customer service of the shop.
i should talk with gorillas peoduction service, but i have no hopes.
thanks bro.
anyone would talk about the camera or the memory ?? :'(
camera wasent that good it bad verry bad ....memory was the best 1.530 mb free ram
I buy it now cause it is $250 unlock n new. It is a nice phone for this price. It has metallic edges and removable battery. I use this tiny phone when I go jogging instead of the bigger phone which I also have.
Yes. But only the octacore version. Att one not only dies in 3-4 hours. It lags real bad. If ur in america get the 850m. Best fone I've had. And I've had em all. I do wish there was more development. Tho. But the one Rom we got is great tho
I just got my alpha 2 days ago. Mines the att version, the 850m was $100 more, but for the price it was at its a very good phone, I think the camera is very good, the battery life is ok, but you can turn on power save mode if you're going to be away from a charger, I wish Samsung wouldn't have discontinued the alpha line. It's a very good phone, my favorite part is the metal build and the display, the display is very good even at 720p
chong67 said:
I buy it now cause it is $250 unlock n new. It is a nice phone for this price. It has metallic edges and removable battery. I use this tiny phone when I go jogging instead of the bigger phone which I also have.
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Where for 250? Cheapest I've found is through target (can't post link since new account).
Amazon has em for 250 new
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I'd rather have an s4 than the 850a
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Where for 250? Cheapest I've found is through target (can't post link since new account).
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Go find it on fleabay.
If battery is a concern, get another OEM battery for $6.
I love this phone. I dont know why Samsung discount this phone. I wish they make it for every carrier here.
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Yes. But only the octacore version. Att one not only dies in 3-4 hours. It lags real bad. If ur in america get the 850m. Best fone I've had. And I've had em all. I do wish there was more development. Tho. But the one Rom we got is great tho
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Do you use your 850M with ATT? If so, do you have trouble connecting to LTE?
I've just bought my brand new Galaxy Alpha (850F), 330€ (with 23% vat).
It came with Lollipop installed (v5.0.2).
I found it the best choice for this prize target considering the specs and screen size (4,7'' was the limit).
My last device was the heroic Galaxy S - still perfectly working, but 5 years of difference is quite something...
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I've just bought my brand new Galaxy Alpha (850F), 330€ (with 23% vat).
It came with Lollipop installed (v5.0.2).
I found it the best choice for this prize target considering the specs and screen size (4,7'' was the limit).
My last device was the heroic Galaxy S - still perfectly working, but 5 years of difference is quite something...
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Haha 5 years, so how does the alpha feel now?
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Without a doubt yes. The only phone i'd switch to is an s6 or ip6.
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Camera is very good but not excellent or great.
Camera is like a Galaxy S5 if S5 is in 12 megapixel mode.
Because Alpha IS the S5 Sensor restricted to 12 megapixels in Firmware. Samsung intentionally held back the Camera to be BELOW quality of S5 ¿!
Note 4 , S6, LG G4 Cameras are a major step up from Alpha but in good light you can get very good results.
If you get a Tempered Glass Screen Protector Alpha is one of the most durable Phones extremely rigid.
I had the Alpha charging on someones Patio and when sliding door was opened the USB Cable metal end into Phone got bent to perfect 90 degree angle ( ouch) with NO damage to Alpha USB Port or Frame etc. Case was a Casemate Naked Tough but it was the metal frame that absorbed the force.
USB Cords still fit snugly.
That is a rugged metal frame !
The Exynos Alphas have the Wolfson Audio Chip which gives a great speakerphone almost as loud as S6 but less distortion so you can hear an Internet Broadcast clearly 20 or 30 feet away in quiet room or quiet Patio etc on Tune In or Iheart and hear what they are saying.
Spare battery for heavy users 3 to 4.5 hours SOT at low brightness per battery charge on one battery.
Very good loud call quality- again Speaker is as loud and full as HTC One Mini (not the big HTC) and on a way different level than S4 S5 etc.
The AT&T Version does not have this
Speaker volume or fullness- AT&T has decent but tinny speaker.
Alpha is very good at $250 to $350
IF you like a smaller rugged phone.
IF you like very high res screens obviously you won't like 720p but I like it.
Agree to get Exynos version faster more efficient CPU and much better Audio.
As discontinued less popular phone not much Development.
Hi guys,
I am having some problems with my Huawei Watch, so I am thinking of exchanging it for a Moto 360 2nd gen. So I thought it would be good to hear from you, what made you choose the 360 over the Huawei watch when you picked yours up?
For me, I went first with the Huawei mostly because of the full circle. But after all the problems people (including me) are having with the screen, maybe the flat tyre is a small price to pay.
I'd like to hear your opinion on this. Why the moto 360?
Thanks!
I have both. Since bestbuy didn't have them on display, I ordered a Huawei from Amazon and grabbed a moto from best buy locally. I've had the moto since Sunday and just received the Huawei today. I have the original moto too.
Some quick initial thoughts :
I have the black versions with black link bands for both. Even though they are the same height on paper, the moto looks and feels like it's thinner due to the case design. The lugs on the moto allow it to sit flatter on my arm. And I have the 46mm moto for reference. Also with the glass being above the bezel the moto is easier to swipe, IMO.
Screen is noticeably larger on the moto. But doesn't feel too big. I never considered the original big either but this one does look and feel more proportional; that is the band and body seem to match up better. The side button on the moto is less squishy and feels better.
I immediately noticed the Huawei's red screen issue during boot up in a dark room and on other black screens. Aside from that, the screen is great. More crisp given the higher dpi.
The light sensor on the moto is great. Down in my man cave watching tv in the dark the moto works wonders. The Huawei, even on 3, is still stupidly bright in a dark room especially if there is a white notification card or your watch face is white.
The low res pixelated ambient screen on the moto is my only significant complaint so far. Some faces look horrid. Sky master for example, looks great on the Huawei, but on the moto the tick marks are very messy in low res. I really hope a future update can address that or at least make it an option to change.
So far, I've been less impressed with the Huawei that I thought I would be. All the reviews made it sound like a killer watch but so far im leaning toward keeping the moto.
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Thank you Brian! Awesome post!
I actually don't mind the red tint on the HW screen, but I worry it might cause problems over time (like red sub pixel burn in for instance). And I don't know how well Huawei would deal with this.
Let me ask you something since you have them both: I know that the HW has greater ppi, but did you notice that it's got a pentile matrix like AMOLED phones (the subpixel matrix is not a grid)? Therefore every pixel is missing a subpixel. I don't know how sensitive you are for this, but for me it's very annoying. So even though the 360 has a theoretically lower res screen, it may look better because of the subpixel arrangement (in LCD displays usually the matrix is a grid, and every pixel has indeed 3 subpixels, there is no sharing subpixels).
Any thoughts on that?
And thank you again for sharing your experience.
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I have the black versions with black link bands for both. Even though they are the same height on paper, the moto looks and feels like it's thinner due to the case design. The lugs on the moto allow it to sit flatter on my arm. And I have the 46mm moto for reference. Also with the glass being above the bezel the moto is easier to swipe, IMO.
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This has been exactly the impressions I have had - even though I have never seen either of these 'in the flesh'. From all the reviews and videos, it seems clear that the Moto 360 sits much more neatly on the wrist even though most people seem to say the Huawei is marginally thinner (on specs, not visual perception). I have been wrestling with which one to get, but I'm slowly getting to 75%+ in favour of the Moto 360 42mm (small wrists here).
These have been my thoughts on the pros and cons of each - just my perceptions of what I've seen and read online, obviously I may be totally wrong about some of these!
Moto 360 Pros:
- Wireless charging, any Qi charger will work
- Apparent Size
- Leather strap seems to have more holes for different sized wrists
- Ambient light sensor
- Mic placement and sensitivity
- Price
- Stock faces seem nicer, more customisable
- Standard straps (20mm or 22mm)
- Vibration stronger?
- Angled lugs
- No obstructions to finger swiping (screen flush with bezel)
Moto Cons:
- The so called 'flat tire' (doesn't really bother me)
- LCD screen (not sure if this is a pro or con - seems better for bright sunlight?)
- Edge bevel on the glass? (Annoys some people, some think it adds to the look)
- Ambient mode blocky, and possible software issue: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/1a5cbb0aa8
Huawei Pros:
- AMOLED screen
- Full circle screen
- Ambient mode better
- Sapphire crystal
Huawei Cons:
- Apparent Size
- Price
- Leather strap seems to have less holes for different sized wrists
- Red screen tint issue (http://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-watch/general/huawei-screen-red-tint-issue-t3214209)
- Mic placement issue, people report that it doesn't pick up voice consistently (https://youtu.be/H_ISBzY96M0?t=5m43s)
- Weak vibration?
- Stock faces (don't appeal to me as much as the Moto ones)
- Raised bezel may interfere with finger swipes
- Non standard straps (18mm straps will fit, but the supplied strap itself is 22mm with 18mm between the lugs)
- Proprietary wired charger seems a bit fiddly, $40 for a replacement
- Straight lugs, rather than angled to fit around the wrist - makes them appear to 'wing' over small wrists
In particular, these two reviews have swayed my opinion even more in favour of the Moto 360:
http://www.androidcentral.com/review-moto-360-2015
http://www.androidcentral.com/huawei-watch-review
EDIT: Not interested in any of the fitness/step counting/heart rate stuff by the way - that's why none of that is mentioned in my list
Caio 73 said:
Thank you Brian! Awesome post!
I actually don't mind the red tint on the HW screen, but I worry it might cause problems over time (like red sub pixel burn in for instance). And I don't know how well Huawei would deal with this.
Let me ask you something since you have them both: I know that the HW has greater ppi, but did you notice that it's got a pentile matrix like AMOLED phones (the subpixel matrix is not a grid)? Therefore every pixel is missing a subpixel. I don't know how sensitive you are for this, but for me it's very annoying. So even though the 360 has a theoretically lower res screen, it may look better because of the subpixel arrangement (in LCD displays usually the matrix is a grid, and every pixel has indeed 3 subpixels, there is no sharing subpixels).
Any thoughts on that?
And thank you again for sharing your experience.
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no, the pentile doesnt bother me and honestly its never been something ive been bothered by. i can see it in blownup screen shots and if i stick my eye super close to a device but in normal use, i cant tell. the sharpness (not counting the ambient low-res junk on the moto) is in favor of the huawei, though only slightly so. in normal usage at arms length its a non-issue. and i would bet if you had the smaller 42mm moto, you would be hard pressed to notice any difference.
to re-touch on the awesomeness of moto's light sensor, last night the huawei was bothering the wife while we watched TV because it was too damn bright whenever it lit up due to notification or arm movement. i ended up just putting it in theater mode all night.
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I have both.
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Hi Brian - thanks for your insights! It's great that you have access to both, I can imagine there are quite a few people who would have some questions for you!
Could you comment on the mic sensitivity for each of these watches. How close you have to hold them to your mouth, how reliably they pick you up etc? How do they compare to using 'OK Google' on a phone? For example, my Note 4 seems to pick me up and understand exactly what I say almost without fail. Thanks.
I don't own the Huawei but I did own a first gen Moto that got broken a few weeks ago. I was deciding on a replacement and finally got the second gen Moto in Black 46mm. Why? Firstly the Huawei is a lot more expensive. It doesn't have inductive charging and I don't like the shape. The Moto is the only truly round smartwatch out there. The LG and the Huawei are strangely shaped watches with round displays. The 8 bit ambient mode on the Moto serioulsy annoyed me at first and showed my favourite watch face as a blurry blocky mess. So I made my own and I think it's quite nice. It shows just enough information and is sufficiently discreet. I don't watch my watch glowing like a light house during meetings. Here's some pics. Sorry about the crappy quality of my phone camera.
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Hi Brian - thanks for your insights! It's great that you have access to both, I can imagine there are quite a few people who would have some questions for you!
Could you comment on the mic sensitivity for each of these watches. How close you have to hold them to your mouth, how reliably they pick you up etc? How do they compare to using 'OK Google' on a phone? For example, my Note 4 seems to pick me up and understand exactly what I say almost without fail. Thanks.
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just tested some, and the moto is WAY more sensitive to picking up "ok google". with both sitting on the desk in front of me, the moto registered every time when talking at a normal level. i almost had to yell at the huawei. same experience on my arm. the moto picked me up way better. had to talk louder to the huawei. i can see the mic hole on the moto on the left side. not sure where it is on the huawei, i dont see any visible mic holes
Comparison shot. 46mm moto and 42mm Huawei. The moto looks thinner, IMO
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just tested some, and the moto is WAY more sensitive to picking up "ok google". with both sitting on the desk in front of me, the moto registered every time when talking at a normal level. i almost had to yell at the huawei. same experience on my arm. the moto picked me up way better. had to talk louder to the huawei. i can see the mic hole on the moto on the left side. not sure where it is on the huawei, i dont see any visible mic holes
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Thanks SO much Brian - you're really helping me make my mind up! The speech recognition is pretty important for me, so it looks like I'll definitely be going for the Moto 360 42mm. You mention the mic placement on the Moto - I had noticed this too. It is placed on the left side which, for most people, will mean it is pointing directly at their mouth. However, as far as I'm aware, the Huawei mic is on the back of the watch under the top lug. Strange placement, if that's true. This, the ambient light sensor, and the weak vibration on the Huawei seal the deal for me.
Thanks for the comparison photo too - I think it's the sloped bezel on the Moto that makes it look thinner, even though it is supposedly the same thickness.
EDIT: Always interested in any other insights you have about these two - and, of course, which you ultimately go for.
Kinsman-UK said:
Thanks SO much Brian - you're really helping me make my mind up! The speech recognition is pretty important for me, so it looks like I'll definitely be going for the Moto 360 42mm. You mention the mic placement on the Moto - I had noticed this too. It is placed on the left side which, for most people, will mean it is pointing directly at their mouth. However, as far as I'm aware, the Huawei mic is on the back of the watch under the top lug. Strange placement, if that's true. This, the ambient light sensor, and the weak vibration on the Huawei seal the deal for me.
Thanks for the comparison photo too - I think it's the sloped bezel on the Moto that makes it look thinner, even though it is supposedly the same thickness.
EDIT: Always interested in any other insights you have about these two - and, of course, which you ultimately go for.
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ah yes, theres the mic, actually mics. looks to be 2 holes. the location aims them away from you, no wonder it has a harder time picking me up.
other thoughts, i posted this in another thread, but the moto has a stronger vibrator. hehe. :silly: if you wear your watch loose, i could see the huawei being more difficult to notice. both sound about the same though
Mister-B said:
I don't own the Huawei but I did own a first gen Moto that got broken a few weeks ago. I was deciding on a replacement and finally got the second gen Moto in Black 46mm. Why? Firstly the Huawei is a lot more expensive. It doesn't have inductive charging and I don't like the shape. The Moto is the only truly round smartwatch out there. The LG and the Huawei are strangely shaped watches with round displays. The 8 bit ambient mode on the Moto serioulsy annoyed me at first and showed my favourite watch face as a blurry blocky mess. So I made my own and I think it's quite nice. It shows just enough information and is sufficiently discreet. I don't watch my watch glowing like a light house during meetings. Here's some pics. Sorry about the crappy quality of my phone camera.
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Love that watchface. Would you be able to share a link for that one? My 2nd Gen is being delivered tomorrow to replace my 1st Gen one. I assume you have other downloaded watchfaces for Faceer/Watchmaker for the 1st Gen. How do those ones look on the 2nd Gen since the screen is slightly higher resolution?
Of course I will share. Have a look here:
https://plus.google.com/104408596370514322518/posts/hJfqgcChRNs
I don't really notice much difference in the quality of my watch faces (I use WatchMaker the most) in bright mode. In dim mode all of the third party watch faces I use in dim mode are unfortunately horrible with the colours being terribly distorted. Hopefully this will be sorted out with a future update. In the meantime I adapt my favourite faces to show a decent 8 bit dim mode.
Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts and experience.
From my perspective (I am using the Huawei watch for about 5 days now) I don't mind the weaker mic (actually I prefer that the watch just listens to me when I am deliberately talking to it) and the vibration on my HW is strong enough for me (I don't have anything to compare to and this is my first smartwatch, but it's very noticeable IMO, so it's fine for me).
As for the other points raised, I do think that the ambient mode is to bright. I use the simplest stock watch face (I think it's called Elegant) in which the only diference between the ambient mode and the full active watch face is the seconds hand and the date. Some times I have the impression that the ambient mode is brighter than the full watch face when the brightness is set to one... But, on the other hand, the watch face I use looks really good on always on.
And, as some users have reported, I find the accelerometer not very sensitive and, on top of that, the waking up time is kinda slow. So, if you are planing to leave ambient mode off, this is annoying. You have to really raise your wrist up high and then wait a second for the display to come to life. Bothersome...
Now, about that red tint issue, it's horrible on mine. It's really, really red. It glows like crazy for something that's supposed to be pure black. But realistically speaking, I don't see Huawei doing anything about it. It's to subtle to bother (or to be noticed for that matter) most people. And despite being really bad on mine, if someone could guarantee me that this is not going to cause any problems in the future, I could overlook it easily.
I am still struggling to decide if I am gonna ask for a replacement or a refund and go for the 360. I don't know if I can handle that flat tyre...
Mister-B said:
Of course I will share. Have a look here:
https://plus.google.com/104408596370514322518/posts/hJfqgcChRNs
I don't really notice much difference in the quality of my watch faces (I use WatchMaker the most) in bright mode. In dim mode all of the third party watch faces I use in dim mode are unfortunately horrible with the colours being terribly distorted. Hopefully this will be sorted out with a future update. In the meantime I adapt my favourite faces to show a decent 8 bit dim mode.
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You, sir, are a gentleman AND a scholar. Thanks! :highfive:
Mister-B said:
I don't own the Huawei but I did own a first gen Moto that got broken a few weeks ago. I was deciding on a replacement and finally got the second gen Moto in Black 46mm. Why? Firstly the Huawei is a lot more expensive. It doesn't have inductive charging and I don't like the shape. The Moto is the only truly round smartwatch out there. The LG and the Huawei are strangely shaped watches with round displays. The 8 bit ambient mode on the Moto serioulsy annoyed me at first and showed my favourite watch face as a blurry blocky mess. So I made my own and I think it's quite nice. It shows just enough information and is sufficiently discreet. I don't watch my watch glowing like a light house during meetings. Here's some pics. Sorry about the crappy quality of my phone camera.
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As an owner of the new Moto 360, I totally agree with all of you, especially the case design of the HW and the vibration made my decision clear. I am happy with the 360 except the ambient mode screen.
On a side note, very nice watch face! did you made, is it possible to share it?
Thanks in advance.
has128 said:
As an owner of the new Moto 360, I totally agree with all of you, especially the case design of the HW and the vibration made my decision clear. I am happy with the 360 except the ambient mode screen.
On a side note, very nice watch face! did you made, is it possible to share it?
Thanks in advance.
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I only made the 8 bit ambient mode part of the face. The original face I found on FaceRepo I believe. The concensus on the usual forums is that it is Ok to modify and distribute other people's work as long as you explicitly state who did the original work. In my case the beautiful watch face work was done by John Feaster. He and he alone deserves the credit for this beautiful watch face. I just adapted it to suit the new Moto.
Usually the weeks after the launch of a phone especially one that was so anticipated the boards are absolutely full of user feedback.
It feels strangely dead here.
I held back on a purchase just to hear what people were thinking - particularly about the standard Mate 10 but there's very little happening.
Even on Google there is very little information on the Mate 10 (a lot on the pro) and very little user follow-up/long term reviews.
It's slightly un-nerving.
So ARE people buying this phone (the pro at least because of the availability)? Are you liking it? What's the experience been like? What DON'T you like......
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Usually the weeks after the launch of a phone especially one that was so anticipated the boards are absolutely full of user feedback.
It feels strangely dead here.
I held back on a purchase just to hear what people were thinking - particularly about the standard Mate 10 but there's very little happening.
Even on Google there is very little information on the Mate 10 (a lot on the pro) and very little user follow-up/long term reviews.
It's slightly un-nerving.
So ARE people buying this phone (the pro at least because of the availability)? Are you liking it? What's the experience been like? What DON'T you like......
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Pros
Battery life. Good speed. I have to stress the battery life. The best I've ever had on a phone. EVER. Over 7 hrs SOT. Easily lasts 2 days.
Cons
WiFi is unacceptable. I constantly have to switch to 4g.
Camera for me is not good enough.
A little buggy at times. Couple of random reboots, one or two other minor weird stuff.
I brought this phone whilst my HTC u11+ gets repaired. I thought I may stick with the Huawei, however due to the cons I think I'll go back to the HTC u11+ (a better overall phone for me)
Hope that helps
I've only had the Mate 10 for about a week, and it's growing on me. As posted above, the battery life is SUPERB. 7+ hours of SOT, close to 2 days standby. Fast charging (which requires Huawei's proprietary charger and a 5 amp type C cable) is also amazing. As is the speed and accuracy of the front fingerprint reader (and it's great that it can be tapped, long-tapped and swiped).
I think the screen, camera and speed are all excellent and, having originally thought about returning it (I was coming from a Note 4), I think it's now a keeper, although, like the OP, I'm surprised at how quiet the community has been.
Some cons: I hate the volume buttons placement, on the right side just above power. It's a pain since I like to use them for reading and cursor control, and I'm used to doing that with my thumb on the left side. I also am disappointed that there's not TWRP yet, as I'm used to GMD Gesture Control and Titanium, although I'm finding relatively decent substitutes.
Other pros: 3.0 type C charger, great sound, IR blaster, SD Card, dual-sim, comes with a usable case (the phone is otherwise slippery).
I purchased the regular Mate 10, AL00 rebranded to L29, so it has 6 gigs of ram/128 gigs of storage. I believe I'm having some buyers remorse. It's just not a big enough upgrade from the Mate 9. As a matter of fact, I still often pick up and play around with my Mate 9. I've only had the 10 for about 4 days and am debating on selling it, probably at a $100/$150 loss.
Two aspects I was excited for, the updated screen and offscreen button, both have issues for me. The screen isn't nearly as bright as the Mate 9 which makes it look a little duller, but is much sharper. There is also an adaptive brightness issue which causes certain screens and apps to dim and cannot be toggled off. The fingerprint sensor is still super fast but using it as the offscreen buttons can be problematic for those with larger fingers. It's so small and very close to the app drawer button, provided you use one as I do.
The added thickness is also quite noticeable to me. Despite being taller and wider, the Mate 9 seems more comfortable in my hands.
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Some cons: I hate the volume buttons placement, on the right side just above power.
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My s7 edge has the buttons on the different side, and my P10 plus has it on the same side but with a different texture on the power button instead. I have the Mate 10 pro since it's availability, but I sometimes still push the wrong button. It is not a deal breaker, just something to note.
i might consider checking it out if you are selling.
Sammae7 said:
I purchased the regular Mate 10, AL00 rebranded to L29, so it has 6 gigs of ram/128 gigs of storage. I believe I'm having some buyers remorse. It's just not a big enough upgrade from the Mate 9. As a matter of fact, I still often pick up and play around with my Mate 9. I've only had the 10 for about 4 days and am debating on selling it, probably at a $100/$150 loss.
Two aspects I was excited for, the updated screen and offscreen button, both have issues for me. The screen isn't nearly as bright as the Mate 9 which makes it look a little duller, but is much sharper. There is also an adaptive brightness issue which causes certain screens and apps to dim and cannot be toggled off. The fingerprint sensor is still super fast but using it as the offscreen buttons can be problematic for those with larger fingers. It's so small and very close to the app drawer button, provided you use one as I do.
The added thickness is also quite noticeable to me. Despite being taller and wider, the Mate 9 seems more comfortable in my hands.
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daz_2000 said:
Pros
Battery life. Good speed. I have to stress the battery life. The best I've ever had on a phone. EVER. Over 7 hrs SOT. Easily lasts 2 days.
Cons
WiFi is unacceptable. I constantly have to switch to 4g.
Camera for me is not good enough.
A little buggy at times. Couple of random reboots, one or two other minor weird stuff.
I brought this phone whilst my HTC u11+ gets repaired. I thought I may stick with the Huawei, however due to the cons I think I'll go back to the HTC u11+ (a better overall phone for me)
Hope that helps
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You're having WiFi issues as well as some random bugs? I haven't heard much of this anywhere so I am curious now. What is wrong with the WiFi? And random reboots? Have you factory reset? What model/version do you have / are you running and did you rebrand?
I have the Mate 10 and since its officially available where i live, the price in Asia and Middle East is a pretty strong point (620$ for 4gb/64gb) and even better i got my hands on a Mate 10 that was only couple days used for 500$. So there is no regrets for me at all considering the excellent pricing for a flagship phone. Moreover i have been using a P9 plus which is almost 2 years old. So the Mate 10 is a proper upgrade for me.
Initially i was breaking my head over whether to buy the Mate 10 or Mate 10 pro (was it worth 200$ more?). It was a debate between big 16:9 screen, QHD, front fp (really important for me), cheaper price versus an oled screen with a 5.5inch gotten taller 18:9 ratio, narrow better in hand feel, blue color, 2 day battery life. Coming from a 5.5 inch oled display phone, i was expecting Mate 10 pro to be the right choice. But after getting the Mate 10 i have to say i don't really feel that urge to get the Mate 10 pro anymore. So i am now in a stage where i just wait and if i come across a good deal for Mate 10 pro i might give it a try.
Initial hands on the phone felt wide to hold but soon after usage of the phone the muscle memory or whatever kicks in and you get used to it. I have used the Huawei TPU case for a while but couple days ago realized again how much thickness it adds to the phone and the real phone without the case feels far slimmer and the edge to edge bezels shows its real self. So i will be getting myself a pouch case to protect the phone in pocket while able to use the phone without any case in real usage rather than miss out such an important part of the phone, the built quality.
The display as mentioned elsewhere i have gotten spoilt by the QHD and big screen. The narrow and tall 18:9 FHD+ just does not woo me anymore. Deeper black of Oled is compensated by the purer white of the IPS. And i don't have a note 8 near me to compare and complain, so in stand alone usage and compared to what phone i was using all along, the display is a great upgrade for me. And yes the battery life would be better with an oled but for my personal usage i go to bed with enough battery to watch a dozen youtube videos and still have at least 30% battery left, and charge the phone back in 30 minutes of shower in the morning. So i have nothing to complain personally.
I am not a camera guy so can't say much other than that it is a huge upgrade from my existing Leica of P9 plus. From all the reviews online, its camera is clearly in flagship territory. And i guess there is a personal preference that comes in that makes people to prefer one among Pixel 2 series, Iphone X, Note 8 and Mate 10 series camera.
I have been using Huawei phones for a while so have a natural inclination to Huawei over other brands. LG & Samsung is a no no for me. One plus feels like a wannabe. Pixel 2 is overpriced outside USA. Personally not inclined to HTC. I was close to getting the Essential phone for being such a compact and minimal bezel phone. But the availability outside US and camera performance kept me away.
The only con is that Huawei did not bring much changes to the UI, whereas they used to have significant UI upgrade with every year. This year they brought out the Oreo and added few Oreo features, and cleaned up the settings and then called it EMUI 8. So not much visible changes to the UI experience and there are still places on the UI where they have to do a lot more refining and staying ahead.
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Pros
Battery life. Good speed. I have to stress the battery life.
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Hey, thanks. Yeah the phone suddenly seems lost between the OnePlus 5t, the U11+, the LaV30, the Google, the Apple and the i phone!
Not to mention now, it's very own Honor V10.
The uptake, looking at the boards seems to have been tempered somewhat by....I don't know... The camera? The lack of ear-phone jack? The screen resolution?
I can't put my finger on it but the Mate9 was far more successful in drumming up a critical mass of users here on XDA.
I think Huawei's Mate release this year may have been a little muddled and I get the feeling that the Mate core user actually wants the 10 standard and not the pro and that they can't find it?
The competition is really deep this year.... I'll keep watching the boards but it's like.....brrrrrr.... So far.
Got a Mate Pro. Absolutely love it.
I got a Pixel 2XL at the same time and I really can't decide which one to use. Got the Pixel as my private phone and Huawei as my work phone.
The Pixel camera is as good as the reviews say, but the Mate's is as good if you ask me. It certainly is more flexible and had many more options.
Battery life is excellent as mentioned by others.
The screen is fine and plenty bright enough. I honestly can't see any circumstances where I'd want it to be brighter than Mac can take it.
HDR for YouTube can be enabled.
No issues with WiFi here.
As for slow uptake, a quick search of the internet shows that the Mate at least is breaking sales records for Huawei.
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I purchased the regular Mate 10, AL00 rebranded to L29, so it has 6 gigs of ram/128 gigs of storage. I believe I'm having some buyers remorse.
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Thanks for the reply.
Yes, this is the feeling I'm getting looking around the internet, particularly on the screen brightness AND this funny adaptive thing one seems not to be able to control.
I think, particularly with the move from Mate 9 to the 10, with the technology seemingly plateaued for 2017, that perhaps they didn't go far enough in redesign?
The anticipation for the phone is not being matched by the number of people buying. Clearly the fact that it is only the pro being made easily available in the West has something to do with it - because Mate 9 users and Mate 9 pro users are different profiles.
Where the Mate 9 managed to carve out a nice for itself apart from the regular contenders, the pro sat right in the middle of it's competitors, and this year, is overtaken by the screen.
It's fascinating I think - also, what does it mean for discussion on the standard Mate 10? When you go to Google, almost all the results returned concern the Mate 10 pro....and it is being experienced completely outside of the impact that the Mate 9 had.
Anyway, thanks, I'm in Kenya and so both phones have just been released and are available now.
I have this niggling suspicion that the P11 & P11 Plus will have to pull something special out of the box to change the situation.
Also..... The Honor V10 then feels like it's in direct competition - apart from it's screen. It's all very strange indeed.
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You're having WiFi issues as well as some random bugs? I haven't heard much of this anywhere so I am curious now. What is wrong with the WiFi? And random reboots? Have you factory reset? What model/version do you have / are you running and did you rebrand?
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The WiFi is very slow particularly when I am a little further away from my router. Note. This was not the case for any other phone. E.g. Samsung s8 and HTC u11+. I even did a side by side test and Huawei failed miserably. I am now at a point where I pretty much have to leave WiFi off as do not want to wait for pages to load. I have had 3 random reboots in 7 days.
I have not done a factory reset. And not rooted rebranded etc. I brought from carphone warehouse UK.
Huaweis been really bad with release
Still not available in Australia
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Huaweis been really bad with release
Still not available in Australia
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Are you sure ? I see Huawei website has provided links to Australian stores and you get a 360 camera free as well.
http://consumer.huawei.com/au/
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Are you sure ? I see Huawei website has provided links to Australian stores and you get a 360 camera free as well.
http://consumer.huawei.com/au/
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Only one store has it contract unfortunately
daz_2000 said:
Pros
Battery life. Good speed. I have to stress the battery life. The best I've ever had on a phone. EVER. Over 7 hrs SOT. Easily lasts 2 days.
Cons
WiFi is unacceptable. I constantly have to switch to 4g.
Camera for me is not good enough.
A little buggy at times. Couple of random reboots, one or two other minor weird stuff.
I brought this phone whilst my HTC u11+ gets repaired. I thought I may stick with the Huawei, however due to the cons I think I'll go back to the HTC u11+ (a better overall phone for me)
Hope that helps
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I am undecided between U11+ and mate10.
why repaired u11+ after 2 weeks?
u11+ better camera,auto hdr for photos ,audio and new 18:9 but HTC sense has less feature.
mate 10 Emui has a lot features but no auto hdr for photos, and 16:9
I dropped the HTC and the camera would not load. Other than that I loved it. Screen could be better as LCD. But still very good. I will be going back to HTC over Huawei.
Got mine yesterday sold my iPhone x to get this and love it, mainly bought for projection mode with no need for a dock like the S8 really find this useful.
Would be happier with Google Services.
Sammae7 said:
I purchased the regular Mate 10, AL00 rebranded to L29, so it has 6 gigs of ram/128 gigs of storage. I believe I'm having some buyers remorse. It's just not a big enough upgrade from the Mate 9. As a matter of fact, I still often pick up and play around with my Mate 9. I've only had the 10 for about 4 days and am debating on selling it, probably at a $100/$150 loss.
Two aspects I was excited for, the updated screen and offscreen button, both have issues for me. The screen isn't nearly as bright as the Mate 9 which makes it look a little duller, but is much sharper. There is also an adaptive brightness issue which causes certain screens and apps to dim and cannot be toggled off. The fingerprint sensor is still super fast but using it as the offscreen buttons can be problematic for those with larger fingers. It's so small and very close to the app drawer button, provided you use one as I do.
The added thickness is also quite noticeable to me. Despite being taller and wider, the Mate 9 seems more comfortable in my hands.
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I got my Mate 10 three weeks ago. In the first week, I was not happy with the phone because it can not get google services in full operation. Google cannot even get the phone number lift out of this phone. However now I am quite impressed by the features from this phone that others mentioned, battery, fast fingerprint. I am particularly happy with camera, screen and buttons. My previous phone was Samsung GS7 Edge.
Now, I will be much happier if I can get Google services work on this phone. Without phone number association to the phone, cannot use find a phone, track a phone, and other administrative features of the phone from google.
I assume your re-branding it to L29 would resolve this issue. I actually tried to use DC-unlocker as well as FH Mate 10 tool. I don't have bootloader code that i could not pass either of the tools. Would you please share your way of re-branding and give me some suggestions?
thank you/
chris
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I got my Mate 10 three weeks ago. In the first week, I was not happy with the phone because it can not get google services in full operation. Google cannot even get the phone number lift out of this phone. However now I am quite impressed by the features from this phone that others mentioned, battery, fast fingerprint. I am particularly happy with camera, screen and buttons. My previous phone was Samsung GS7 Edge.
Now, I will be much happier if I can get Google services work on this phone. Without phone number association to the phone, cannot use find a phone, track a phone, and other administrative features of the phone from google.
I assume your re-branding it to L29 would resolve this issue. I actually tried to use DC-unlocker as well as FH Mate 10 tool. I don't have bootloader code that i could not pass either of the tools. Would you please share your way of re-branding and give me some suggestions?
thank you/
chris
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Check out the FunkyHuawei thread on this forum. That seems to be the best way to rebrand your device to L29 (or any version for that matter), though you do have to pay to do that. But if it is the difference between having google services and not having google services, I would definitely suggest looking into it!