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This is a call out to all existing and future developers of Xperia MDPI Devices.
For about a month now there is an app called Update Me Smartphone, which basically gives OTA update functionality for our Custom Roms.
From 01/05/2012 the developer of this app has given it a very interesting feature. You can view all Roms compatible with the Update Me Smartphone application. Even though you get a list a bunch of irrelevant devices, I suppose if we all "help" him with our suggestions he can make an application that will be on par with the Rom Manager app for devices that are fully supported by CWM.
To make this as simple as possible....
User "A" wants to download a new Rom for his Xperia MDPI Device. He has already downloaded and flashed a custom kernel (whether this is a Stock Kernel, or a CM kernel), then proceeds to download the app, install it and browse any compatible Rom's with his device... From then on his device will stay updated, through the Update Me application providing OTA updates of the Rom he has installed. If he wished to download another rom (compatible with the kernel he has - there are 3 Different Kernels AFAIK: GB CM, ICS CM, GB-ICS Stock Sony Kernel) he will just proceed to download the latest version of the rom he has selected straight to his device. No need to download to your computer, then connect the device, then copy it, then flash it. If you have the compatible kernel already installed, then its easy as pie.
Please let me know of your thoughts on this...
Edit: Link to the application's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590170
Edit 2: Apart from Rom's we can also implement various mods, tweaks, fixes, etc for our devices. Even though that would be extremely hard, due to the fact that all these files need to be stored in a direct download location like Dropbox, its is a viable option.
OMG I love the idea, that would be awesome!!
It's very interesting, thanks a lot for the info I will try it!
Some modification: In GB we have 3 different kernel (Stock Based, CM Based, MIUI Based [not released yet]). In ICS we don't have Stock based to Xperia MDPI, because Sony don't released yet the stock for us. So we have CM9 based, AOSP based (it's work with CM9 ROMs btw), and ported Stock based.
Some another notice: I saw a lot of thread (not only in this forum), but sooo many people trying to make ROMs. It's not a problem, but some guy don't know some full minimum things... So who will help this guys to add this app to their ROMs?
Are you using a different Kernel for the Sony ICS rom port? I mean the Ramdisk is the same size and you're using the same zImage from a stock GB rom correct?
Well nobody is forced to do this. All we have to do is provide the app developer a link with the update_me_check.xml so that he will sort of add a link for that in the application.
By the way, i now got my goo.im account, and this have own OTA app. I will try it, and I will report.
But I know, this is not only OTA app... Hmm... I need to think in it
So the only developer checking the thread is Expeacer?
Ok...
dumraden said:
So the only developer checking the thread is Expeacer?
Ok...
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What makes you think like this?
Well, it's been a couple of days since I posted this, either people dont have an opinion of their own, or they don't care...
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Well, it's been a couple of days since I posted this, either people dont have an opinion of their own, or they don't care...
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I also read quite a lot of topics, but I don't respond in every topic.
My question goes to ROM developer. If we can make a flash-able zip files to install or modify files, why can we not only flash the updated files when ROM developers update their ROM?
For example the normal process is:
-Find ROM your like
-Download and flash full ROM(some LG G2 Roms are 1 gig in size)
-New update comes out
-Download full 1 gig ROM again and flash again
why can we not go
-Find ROM
-Download and flash full ROM
-New update comes out
-Download only the updated files (most likely a few MB's only)
-Flash them
Note: I am not a ROM developer so I do not know all the technical aspects that goes into making a ROM. This is why I am asking why something like this is not possible or we just don't do it.
Some roms do support incremental updates. The G2 roms probably aren't that stable yet.
We're just now starting to see an more and more custom 4.4 roms (even on the Nexus 5). Most were typically based off stock.
Once they get stuff ironed out, you should start to see some smaller updates.
1gb roms do sound unnecessary
-sent from my LG G2 using XDA Premium 4
Thanks. I was really wondering about that. So it is possible, it is just up to the developer.
player911 said:
Some roms do support incremental updates. The G2 roms probably aren't that stable yet.
We're just now starting to see an more and more custom 4.4 roms (even on the Nexus 5). Most were typically based off stock.
Once they get stuff ironed out, you should start to see some smaller updates.
1gb roms do sound unnecessary
-sent from my LG G2 using XDA Premium 4
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I may be really off base here. But from past phones and roms it seems that some updates only work really well when built into the Rom. Some have used SVN to put out updates and then you build the Rom with the small update you download. I believe it all depends on how deep the update goes. Looking forward to see how far we can go with this phone. Tomorrow is my 14th day so I guess its a keeper.
CyanDelta does what you are asking for Cyanogenmod.
Consider this. A developer creates a ROM. You download and install it. Then, the developer wants to update it. If he uses a small incremental update, you can download and flash it. Then when it is updated again, you just flash the next update, and so on.
This is all fine and dandy, if you downloaded the ROM from the very beginning, prior to any updates.
If you find the ROM a few weeks or a month or whatever into development, it will likely have gotten at least a few updates. But in order to get to the latest stuff, you would have to download that first build, flash that, and then individually download and flash every update that has been released for that ROM until it is up to date. That is a pain.
If the developer just releases a whole new build for each update, both new and old users can flash it and be on the most current version of the ROM. Yes, it is a bigger file to download, but it saves quite a lot of headaches. Both for the developer and for the end users. Especially if a re-flash is necessary for some reason.
Or, the developer could do both, and create a whole new build, and a small update for the current users. But that would make for a big mess of files to keep and maintain, and could be confusing to make sure the right one is downloaded. Just creating all those updates and ROM builds and writing all the installation scripts sounds like a big pain to me. It's generally simpler to just build the ROM. Still, it does happen.
Just my thoughts, and I am not a ROM developer, so please correct me if I am mistaken about something.
Its a pain plain and simple. Who wants to look at hases to see if a lib changed and stuff. Its also simply more reliable to just keep each base its own then to start merging the two.
Can anyone tell me why are there roms up of to 1gb in size and yet most are just 200mb more or less.
Usually AOSP ROMs are going to be small. When you start to add in LGs ui, features, provider rubbish etc, they climb in size. Most of my Galaxy Note II ROMs were huge. My TWRP back ups would be around 3GB.
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Redmi note 3 ROM Uploaders please read!
I have been flashing stock roms for a few years now and I have noticed with this device that many of the uploaders are not providing all the details just some of the following:
Detailed description
Is bootloader to be unlocked first
Is a custom recovery needed
Full instructions on how to install
Screenshots
bug list
Which Gapps package to use
Please provide all (the above) the neccessary information so we can make the decision is this ROM good for us to flash on our phones.
There needs to be a template for ROM postings so it can be easy for the end users. (Forum moderators will know the formula so I ask ye guys to sticky a template)
Thank you (ordered mine 3 days ago come on gearbest I wants my precioussss)
rslatara said:
Redmi note 3 ROM Uploaders please read!
I have been flashing stock roms for a few years now and I have noticed with this device that many of the uploaders are not providing all the details just some of the following:
Detailed description
Is bootloader to be unlocked first
Is a custom recovery needed
Full instructions on how to install
Screenshots
bug list
Which Gapps package to use
Please provide all (the above) the neccessary information so we can make the decision is this ROM good for us to flash on our phones.
There needs to be a template for ROM postings so it can be easy for the end users. (Forum moderators will know the formula so I ask ye guys to sticky a template)
Thank you (ordered mine 3 days ago come on gearbest I wants my precioussss)
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First thing, its not stock rom, its custom rom.
Second, the developers are not being paid, and thus whatever thay are doing, just accept it and ask for help, not post post like this to command them to list things that are obviously common sense.
1. CM13 Nightly, this 2 words give enough description, what more do you need. In this time, if you don't know what cm13 is then don't buy an android. Nightly means that there are still bugs, both minor and major, and sometimes it means that there are some things broken too. The devs also list whats working or whats not. They can't list every single thing.
2. You are flashing custom rom, thus you must have custom recovery like twrp, in order to install it you must first unlock your bootloader. If you have custom recovery, then it doesn't matter whether your bootloader is unlocked or not.
3. Did you really just asked if custom recovery is needed, are you a fool or what. Let me make this clear, if you want to flash a rom, how are you supports to so without a custom recovery. Stock recovery can't flash rom, neither it can make backup, restore backup and lots of things. The most basic thing to do even before rooting is to flash a custom recovery. Without custom recovery you can't even properly root. Well you can root with some apps, but custom recovery makes it easier, just download supersu and flash it with recovery.
4. Whats there to know. If you have custom recovery, then first create a backup. Almost every thread that i have ever read on xda, it is stated every where to always make a backup before doing anything, even rooting. Then, wipe data cache dalvik system, and then flash the zip file. After that if you wish flash the gapps.
5. What do you need screenshot for. Haven't you ever saw CM13 or ressurection remix. Just google it. they are not obliged to post it here for your convenience.
6. They do provide bugs, whats working or what not. And its not like they know a bug and haven't told other about it. They, in most cases don't know how many bugs there are, the other users tell them the bugs and they fix it.
7. Why would they tell you which gapps package to use. Do they work for google. Anyway, just google gapps, your rom version, ie cm12 or cm13, you mob architecture, arm64 or arm32 or whatever, and just download it. There is no geek stuff behind it that you can't do it yourself.
And finally, you are not paying them do anything, they are doing this because they like doing this. They are not even getting paid by this. So you ordering them to these things which you can do yourself after some googling and using your brain a bit, is just unjust. Just accept what they are doing, thank them, enjoy the rom, and report the bugs, etc etc, and have fun.
archit.bajpai.ab said:
First thing, its not stock rom, its custom rom.
Second, the developers are not being paid, and thus whatever thay are doing, just accept it and ask for help, not post post like this to command them to list things that are obviously common sense.
1. CM13 Nightly, this 2 words give enough description, what more do you need. In this time, if you don't know what cm13 is then don't buy an android. Nightly means that there are still bugs, both minor and major, and sometimes it means that there are some things broken too. The devs also list whats working or whats not. They can't list every single thing.
2. You are flashing custom rom, thus you must have custom recovery like twrp, in order to install it you must first unlock your bootloader. If you have custom recovery, then it doesn't matter whether your bootloader is unlocked or not.
3. Did you really just asked if custom recovery is needed, are you a fool or what. Let me make this clear, if you want to flash a rom, how are you supports to so without a custom recovery. Stock recovery can't flash rom, neither it can make backup, restore backup and lots of things. The most basic thing to do even before rooting is to flash a custom recovery. Without custom recovery you can't even properly root. Well you can root with some apps, but custom recovery makes it easier, just download supersu and flash it with recovery.
4. Whats there to know. If you have custom recovery, then first create a backup. Almost every thread that i have ever read on xda, it is stated every where to always make a backup before doing anything, even rooting. Then, wipe data cache dalvik system, and then flash the zip file. After that if you wish flash the gapps.
5. What do you need screenshot for. Haven't you ever saw CM13 or ressurection remix. Just google it. they are not obliged to post it here for your convenience.
6. They do provide bugs, whats working or what not. And its not like they know a bug and haven't told other about it. They, in most cases don't know how many bugs there are, the other users tell them the bugs and they fix it.
7. Why would they tell you which gapps package to use. Do they work for google. Anyway, just google gapps, your rom version, ie cm12 or cm13, you mob architecture, arm64 or arm32 or whatever, and just download it. There is no geek stuff behind it that you can't do it yourself.
And finally, you are not paying them do anything, they are doing this because they like doing this. They are not even getting paid by this. So you ordering them to these things which you can do yourself after some googling and using your brain a bit, is just unjust. Just accept what they are doing, thank them, enjoy the rom, and report the bugs, etc etc, and have fun.
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1. I know what CM is this is about description not quick copy and pastes from another website.
2. Some modified roms can be ran from the stock recovery.
3. You are a fool this is information for the end user I will slap you with a fresh wet fish!
4. Information is key.
5. Screenshots show people what they are flashing very helpful to the end user
6. They don't always bub!
7. Again inofrmation helps to clarify lot's of things.
Not all the guys that post are the actual devs THAT DO IT RIGHT, some are just bad copy paste jobs coz they wanna be cool n **** and don't Fu(&ing tell me not use andorid you little pretend dev snot! :victory:
rslatara said:
1. I know what CM is this is about description not quick copy and pastes from another website.
2. Some modified roms can be ran from the stock recovery.
3. You are a fool this is information for the end user I will slap you with a fresh wet fish!
4. Information is key.
5. Screenshots show people what they are flashing very helpful to the end user
6. They don't always bub!
7. Again inofrmation helps to clarify lot's of things.
Not all the guys that post are the actual devs THAT DO IT RIGHT, some are just bad copy paste jobs coz they wanna be cool n **** and don't Fu(&ing tell me not use andorid you little pretend dev snot! :victory:
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If you are using a 32bit windows, then do you ask others which application to install, 32bit or 64bit. Man you are a joke, it's not information, its common sense. information is which partition is used for what purpose. How to restore imei. How to unlock lte band, not which gapps to flash. And there is no stock recovery out ther which flash custom roms. The only roms you can flash with stock recovery are ota.
archit.bajpai.ab said:
If you are using a 32bit windows, then do you ask others which application to install, 32bit or 64bit. Man you are a joke, it's not information, its common sense. information is which partition is used for what purpose. How to restore imei. How to unlock lte band, not which gapps to flash. And there is no stock recovery out ther which flash custom roms. The only roms you can flash with stock recovery are ota.
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Hey I am just a certified IT Technician working for the IT department of a mutlinational company what would I know and I spit on x86 always have..even my windows vista was x64 boi!!!!
rslatara said:
Hey I am just a certified IT Technician working for the IT department of a mutlinational company what would I know and I spit on x86 always have..even my windows vista was x64 boi!!!!
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So if you are not a noob then why are u asking for such things that are common sense. Nobody ask these things now. I just passed class 12 and i know most of the procedure for tweaking an android. I can even write partition table. You just have to search. Not post like this and expect the dev to post them too. Do a little bit more work to achieve something.
archit.bajpai.ab said:
So if you are not a noob then why are u asking for such things that are common sense. Nobody ask these things now. I just passed class 12 and i know most of the procedure for tweaking an android. I can even write partition table. You just have to search. Not post like this and expect the dev to post them too. Do a little bit more work to achieve something.
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Coming from a Huawei g510 where i got my roms on Modaco, and The zenfone 2 here at xda the posts were well put togther with all the info needed , I have found quiet a few here with very little and it's kinda lazy on the posters part.
That is all. I ain't a programmer (although i touched on some c++) but I ain't a noob just like details and not everyone is well informed and there a newbies to flashing roms it's to help them too not brick a device.
archit.bajpai.ab said:
So if you are not a noob then why are u asking for such things that are common sense. Nobody ask these things now. I just passed class 12 and i know most of the procedure for tweaking an android. I can even write partition table. You just have to search. Not post like this and expect the dev to post them too. Do a little bit more work to achieve something.
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Coming from a Huawei g510 where i got my roms on Modaco, and The zenfone 2 here at xda the posts were well put togther with all the info needed , I have found quiet a few here with very little info and it's kinda lazy on the posters part.
I ain't a programmer (although i touched on some c++) but I ain't a noob, I just like details and not everyone is well informed and there a newbies to flashing roms it's to help them to not brick a device.
From what I see it's mostly non devs just copy paste guys who are doing it.
Does it hurt to have a small guide or at least the fundemntals of requrements for the installation of each rom?
Waiting on my redmi still order prcessing, hurry gearbest hurry I am back on my g510 as my asus went for a swim in my tiolet!
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Coming from a Huawei g510 where i got my roms on Modaco, and The zenfone 2 here at xda the posts were well put togther with all the info needed , I have found quiet a few here with very little and it's kinda lazy on the posters part.
That is all. I ain't a programmer (although i touched on some c++) but I ain't a noob just like details and not everyone is well informed and there a newbies to flashing roms it's to help them too not brick a device.
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Nice idea, looks like there's no room for a newbie on XDA anumore (in remembrance of XDA 2012).
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Hi! I have the Nexus5X and even though there are a lot of ROMs for the 5X, I don't really like any of them, so I was wondering how I would go about creating my own ROM. To start this off, I want this ROM to be a viable option for 5X users, a "legit" ROM, and I do not want to use a kitchen.
I do have previous Android building experience. Since I can do that, I want to know a couple specific things about making a ROM suitable for daily use.
First of all, how do I include the latest security updates from Google?
Secondly, how do I get OTA updates for my ROM(like AICP has an AICP OTA app)?
Thirdly, how do I know which revision to sync (r1, r2, r13) etc.
Fourth, are there any other things that I need to keep in mind when building this ROM and making it like other ROMs in the sense of stability, professionality etc (I can't really explain it, just that it's not simply someone adding random features)
Thanks
Hello,
It's been a while I update myself about what's going on here. Please I would like to do full custom ROM installation on my 3 years old pocophone F1. I would to know step by step to follow. I am on stock ROM MIUI global 12.0.3 stable. And I haven't done anything on the phone as regarding to development area.
Please where do I start from if I want to run custom ROM on the phone with necessary things that won't make me regrets my actions?
Thanks all in anticipation.
Please let me know where to start from? I don't want to do what I know nothing about.
crDroid is an excellent choice. In my other devices I regularly change ROMs but in F1 it's been crDroid pretty much exclusively other than a brief dalliance with a few others in the beginning. Since you are on the latest MIUI, after unlocking bootloader, which wipes all data, you need to first flash the recovery of your choice, TWRP or Orangefox etc. Once that is done just need to flash the crDroid ROM zip which includes the Vendor and Firmware. If you are new to custom ROMs better to start with the crDroid 7.15 which is the final A11 build. A12 builds are pretty stable but several features are missing compared to it's predecessor which will be added in the coming months. A12 installation is a bit convoluted for now as the recoveries haven't been updated to handle it yet. A11 builds don't come encrypted by default.