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Hello, I flashed the XE-SeroROM and kernel from the dev thread and would like to revert to stock. I see the stock firmware available but does anyone know where I can locate the stock kernel as well? Any help is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: In addition, does anyone know how I might restore functionality to vudu? A good addition to the first post in that dev thread would be a warning that it kills vudu and even reverting to stock doesn't fix it.
I took the Boot.img provided and inserted it into the kerneltest.zip and it seems to have worked. The OTA update is almost working now. Seems to fail at "set_perm" status 7. ??
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Still no joy. I managed to get back to stock recovery, stock kernel, stock OS (is this really stock?), and even mostly apply the update thus breaking wifi so...restore everything stock and no vudu. It seems once you root flash recovery then vudu is a lost cause for good? Is it requiring a secure key in the original rom that gets lost when flashing maybe? I guess since I'm in the window, I'm going to just return it and grab another.
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Still no joy. I managed to get back to stock recovery, stock kernel, stock OS (is this really stock?), and even mostly apply the update thus breaking wifi so...restore everything stock and no vudu. It seems once you root flash recovery then vudu is a lost cause for good? Is it requ. ing a secure key in the original rom that gets lost when flashing maybe? I guess since I'm in the window, I'm going to just return it and grab another.
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Yeah I ran into the same problem trying to install the update...got an error and my wifi quit working. So I reinstalled the stock ROM. Once we have ten posts we can ask in the forum. Other than that I love this tablet. I am sure someone will make a ROM with the update included. Remember the sero 7 is new and I am confident the best is yet to come for it. You might want to hang onto it.
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Gazoo119 said:
Yeah I ran into the same problem trying to install the update...got an error and my wifi quit working. So I reinstalled the stock ROM. Once we have ten posts we can ask in the forum. Other than that I love this tablet. I am sure someone will make a ROM with the update included. Remember the sero 7 is new and I am confident the best is yet to come for it. You might want to hang onto it.
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I just exchanged it for another one. I think there is a security feature in it the same as with some other embedded devices that won't allow it to become "stock" once again after you flash a custom rom. It should have been able to install the update fully and use vudu if it had truly been returned to original condition. I hope they consider posting a warning about that in the first post. I know Vudu doesn't matter to a lot of people but it is a pretty important feature to me and I like to be able to keep up with OTA updates if they have relevance to device specific drivers or whatever. The custom rom was cool though...I can't believe how much has been accomplished with it in a short time.
Sent from my M470BSA using xda app-developers app I too have not been able to update. I went back to stock but still the update failed.I wish someone would incorporate the update into a new ROM.I didn't know that I could not return to true stock or I wouldn't have installed the ROM. I've lost some of the stock apps too like the remote. But I still think the devs have done and amazing job for this early in this tablet release.
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I just exchanged it for another one. I think there is a security feature in it the same as with some other embedded devices that won't allow it to become "stock" once again after you flash a custom rom. It should have been able to install the update fully and use vudu if it had truly been returned to original condition. I hope they consider posting a warning about that in the first post. I know Vudu doesn't matter to a lot of people but it is a pretty important feature to me and I like to be able to keep up with OTA updates if they have relevance to device specific drivers or whatever. The custom rom was cool though...I can't believe how much has been accomplished with it in a short time.
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You are right about the warning. All I did was root mine and installed cwm..I did not install the custom ROM. I am sure they will find a work around for the update. I hope so cause i am just outside the 15 days.I don't use vudu but I understand. I know I could buy a new one and return this one but this one is perfect so i am gonna keep it. So we wait and see what happens next with Dev...lol
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Wendell S said:
Sent from my M470BSA using xda app-developers app I too have not been able to update. I went back to stock but still the update failed.I wish someone would incorporate the update into a new ROM.I didn't know that I could not return to true stock or I wouldn't have installed the ROM. I've lost some of the stock apps too like the remote. But I still think the devs have done and amazing job for this early in this tablet release.
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Yup..I know how you feel. I am going to hang in there and keep mine. The fact that so much has been done since release is a good indicator of much more to come. It will be interesting to see what the next rom will be.
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Gazoo119 said:
You are right about the warning. All I did was root mine and installed cwm..I did not install the custom ROM. I am sure they will find a work around for the update. I hope so cause i am just outside the 15 days.I don't use vudu but I understand. I know I could buy a new one and return this one but this one is perfect so i am gonna keep it. So we wait and see what happens next with Dev...lol
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Yup..I know how you feel. I am going to hang in there and keep mine. The fact that so much has been done since release is a good indicator of much more to come. It will be interesting to see what the next rom will be.
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I suppose karma bit me on the ass. I exchanged mine in perfect physical condition to get one with a stuck pixel and a spot near the bottom that looks like some kind of screen fault. Should have left well enough alone...I would rather do without vudu than have this. The update seems substantial though.
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I suppose karma bit me on the ass. I exchanged mine in perfect physical condition to get one with a stuck pixel and a spot near the bottom that looks like some kind of screen fault. Should have left well enough alone...I would rather do without vudu than have this. The update seems substantial though.
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1. why vudu? you have an entire android market.
2. xboxexpert provides an executable to go back to bone stock. just run from within windows.
3. you should learn to do it thru fastboot
4. i have a device tree and booting cm 10.1 but the mods wont let me post in dev forums or include links for another 7 post, damn nazis
andrewsandroid said:
1. why vudu? you have an entire android market.
2. xboxexpert provides an executable to go back to bone stock. just run from within windows.
3. you should learn to do it thru fastboot
4. i have a device tree and booting cm 10.1 but the mods wont let me post in dev forums or include links for another 7 post, damn nazis
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If you were so smart, u should of figured, how ridiculously easy it is to make ten MEANINGFUL posts. Stop the whining, deal with it, and make those ten, THE RIGHT WAY!
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Vudu because it supports ultraviolet and contains much of my already owned content which I do not wish to purchase again. In general I prefer the service to google play video because it is on my Bluray players as well allowing me to easily view the same shared content on multiple locations. The "revert to stock" option does not fix the vudu app or the OTA updates either. Don't know about fastboot yet so no comment there.
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I suppose karma bit me on the ass. I exchanged mine in perfect physical condition to get one with a stuck pixel and a spot near the bottom that looks like some kind of screen fault. Should have left well enough alone...I would rather do without vudu than have this. The update seems substantial though.
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Sorry that happened to you. Maybe take it back and get another one? I would think the update does more than just patch a security hole. I mean it 50megs. It's a shame Hisense doesn't post revisions.
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andrewsandroid said:
1. why vudu? you have an entire android market.
2. xboxexpert provides an executable to go back to bone stock. just run from within windows.
3. you should learn to do it thru fastboot
4. i have a device tree and booting cm 10.1 but the mods wont let me post in dev forums or include links for another 7 post, damn nazis
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It puts the device back to what appears to be bone stock. But the update still does not install for me and yes I have tried everything. Have you tried installing the update after just doing a root and CWM and reverting back to the "stock rom"?
xboxexpert has a new version of his root and custom UI for the Sero 7 pro posted for the new build that came out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297246
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Hello, I flashed the XE-SeroROM and kernel from the dev thread and would like to revert to stock. I see the stock firmware available but does anyone know where I can locate the stock kernel as well? Any help is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: In addition, does anyone know how I might restore functionality to vudu? A good addition to the first post in that dev thread would be a warning that it kills vudu and even reverting to stock doesn't fix it.
I took the Boot.img provided and inserted it into the kerneltest.zip and it seems to have worked. The OTA update is almost working now. Seems to fail at "set_perm" status 7. ??
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I dont care about vudu, but a warning would be nice for those who do
Has the vudu app been resolved? does anyone have an original backup?
jhienk said:
Has the vudu app been resolved?
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I have not had problems with Vudu, even after rooting my Sero 7 Pro, playing with XERom, and restoring it back to stock (but rooted). There are two differences that may be involved.
I only played with Vudu after restoring it to stock. I never ran it before.
I did a backup of my stock ROM and installed software immediate after installing CWM, and I used that to restore everything. (It's nice having 32GB of SD Card to backup to.)
jjj1 said:
Hello, I flashed the XE-SeroROM and kernel from the dev thread and would like to revert to stock. I see the stock firmware available but does anyone know where I can locate the stock kernel as well? Any help is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: In addition, does anyone know how I might restore functionality to vudu? A good addition to the first post in that dev thread would be a warning that it kills vudu and even reverting to stock doesn't fix it.
I took the Boot.img provided and inserted it into the kerneltest.zip and it seems to have worked. The OTA update is almost working now. Seems to fail at "set_perm" status 7. ??
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Weird, I still have my Vudu and remote apps after rooting & cwm on my sero7 pro. But then again, I just did the root 3 weeks ago so maybe the root file from the xbox Dev post has been modified/amended/fixed to fix that issue since the version you used back when you did yours. Either way.. I'm sorry that has happened to you, I also like my Vudu My problem now is waiting for them to release something to help us trick our devices into switching our internal storage path with our external/SD paths so we can actually USE our SD cards like intended>>for storing apps!.. spent all that damn money on a 32gb card cause I knew I was gonna be an app hog, only to turn out that all I can use it for is storing photos, video, docs and music..but no apps!?!! Ridic.. Grrr!
NorCalBoy86 said:
Weird, I still have my Vudu and remote apps after rooting & cwm on my sero7 pro. But then again, I just did the root 3 weeks ago so maybe the root file from the xbox Dev post has been modified/amended/fixed to fix that issue since the version you used back when you did yours. Either way.. I'm sorry that has happened to you, I also like my Vudu My problem now is waiting for them to release something to help us trick our devices into switching our internal storage path with our external/SD paths so we can actually USE our SD cards like intended>>for storing apps!.. spent all that damn money on a 32gb card cause I knew I was gonna be an app hog, only to turn out that all I can use it for is storing photos, video, docs and music..but no apps!?!! Ridic.. Grrr!
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I use an app called "FolderMount" for linking my apps to the SD. So far, haven't had any issues with it - I've been able to move almost all of my resource hogging games to the SD without a hitch...
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Stock ROM my ass.
Lots of stuff ends up not working or missing.
He could just like at least let people know he fuxored up the so called "stock" ROM he posted.
Why vudu? ...because I had an account already.
anyway it is hilarious how this is such a respected site and so many things are joke on here and don't work correctly.
Anyway we all knew the risks going in so w/e.
Ditto..so I'm not the only one?!
NubzX said:
Stock ROM my ass.
Lots of stuff ends up not working or missing.
He could just like at least let people know he fuxored up the so called "stock" ROM he posted.
Why vudu? ...because I had an account already.
anyway it is hilarious how this is such a respected site and so many things are joke on here and don't work correctly.
Anyway we all knew the risks going in so w/e.
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Yeah, I'm having the SAAAME exact issues... about the first 3 weeks after rooting with that rom everything was allll good and great..... NOW, I have to shut down and reboot about 5-8 times A DAY!.. 'Launcher' stops working, and EVERY-DAMN-TIME my tablet goes to sleep/screen off for more than about 30-40 mins..it just crashes and you have to force it to shut down and reboot.. Rooting was soooo not worth it, I never even really ended up using any "root required" features or apps anyways, besides folder mount (stopped functioning), and GameKiller. And now I'm fizznucked cause even know my sero7p is only 2 MONTHS old/new and I bought the 2 year replacement plan..rooting voided that So yeah, I'm RIGHT there with u, stuck with what used to be a kick ass functioning tablet, that is now just a nuisance and is gonna end up being yet another dusty R.I.P. electronic stuck in a drawer somewhere..when will I learn?! lol. Best of luck..
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Yeah, I'm having the SAAAME exact issu... about the first 3 weeks after rooting with that rom everything was allll good and great..... NOW, I have to shut down and reboot about 5-8 times A DAY!.. 'Launcher' stops working, and EVERY-DAMN-TIME my tablet goes to sleep/screen off for more than about 30-40 mins..it just crashes and you have to force it to shut down and reboot.. Rooting was soooo not worth it, I never even really ended up using any "root required" features or apps anyways, besides folder mount (stopped functioning), and GameKiller. And now I'm fizznucked cause even know my sero7p is only 2 MONTHS old/new and I bought the 2 year replacement plan..rooting voided that So yeah, I'm RIGHT there with u, stuck with what used to be a kick ass functioning tablet, that is now just a nuisance and is gonna end up being yet another dusty R.I.P. electronic stuck in a drawer somewhere..when will I learn?! lol. Best of luck..
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What I did was flash the first stock ROM in the list and then tell cwm no when it asks if I want to stop the ROM from flashing the stock recovery and then no again when it asks about root and it's all back to normal now
I'm very sad to admit that I updated from 4.2.2 to 4.3 on my Verizon Galaxy S4 and lost root. I made the terrible assumption that someone would root 4.3 quickly after release, but didn't want to wait to see the updates. So far, the only two solutions are:
1. Root on 4.2.2 and upgrade through this method
2. Use VROOT to root stock 4.3
This thread and this article both make me VERY wary of using VROOT, but this seems to be the only option once you do the OTA update.
Has there been any additional investigation into VROOT? Is it safe to use again, or is it a lost cause?
As of right now, that is the only option that I am aware of. I am no dev, but I have been tinkering with my phones for quite some time. I personally have not encountered a single ill effect from using vroot. There is a script which completely wipes it off your phone and installs the supersu app. Ultimately, it is up to you...I did it and I'd do it again. No ill effects what so ever and it's been a few weeks-nothing wonky to report.
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As of right now, that is the only option that I am aware of. I am no dev, but I have been tinkering with my phones for quite some time. I personally have not encountered a single ill effect from using vroot. There is a script which completely wipes it off your phone and installs the supersu app. Ultimately, it is up to you...I did it and I'd do it again. No ill effects what so ever and it's been a few weeks-nothing wonky to report.
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I'm really on the fence... My fear is that I don't want to compromise my Google Account, since my whole life goes through that thing. Did you find that hidden app was installed after using VROOT?
Why is there yet another thread asking the SAME question about rooting MJ7??????
Read the other threads...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47566483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535416
thethotbot said:
I'm really on the fence... My fear is that I don't want to compromise my Google Account, since my whole life goes through that thing. Did you find that hidden app was installed after using VROOT?
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Not a single thing was different on my phone. There were even some folks who ran an md5 checksum on all apps and reported that nothing was altered what so ever on any system level. I understand your concern, it took me a couple weeks before finally doing it. I really weighed it out and decided that root was important to me. Also, a good dev on the forums did it with no ill effects. I have faith in him and thus far, nothing has happened. I don't want to push you into it though. I don't even worry about it anymore since the script wipes all traces of the chinese superuser app off the phone.
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Not a single thing was different on my phone. There were even some folks who ran an md5 checksum on all apps and reported that nothing was altered what so ever on any system level. I understand your concern, it took me a couple weeks before finally doing it. I really weighed it out and decided that root was important to me. Also, a good dev on the forums did it with no ill effects. I have faith in him and thus far, nothing has happened. I don't want to push you into it though. I don't even worry about it anymore since the script wipes all traces of the chinese superuser app off the phone.
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I did the same thing. My life runs through my google account and I was very weary. I dont see anything strange occurring and ran malware scans on both the PC and phone and didnt find any trojans. I am assuming it is safe with the removal script posted on Rootjunky.com
I'm going for it.
Alright.... I just did it. I used Sandboxie on my computer to temporarily install the Chinese program (just to be safe), and everything on my phone now looks like it's fine. I'll keep a close eye on my accounts, and have enabled Two Step Authorization on my Google Account. I'll still be super bummed out if it ends up VROOT is collecting personal data, but I just couldn't bring myself to wait for root any longer.
I'm curious to know if the developers of vroot have removed the data mining features from the more recent versions?
hey i am new to android and got myself a acer liquid e2 as was told it was a good phone for the price etc, i do find this phone very surprising and i am totally happy with it apart from 1 problem i come across about 20 times a day, "storage space" i have plenty of space on my sd card it is the phone that is the problem, and every day i need to keep clearing my data and cache as it shuts all my emails etc down when the space has run out which is annoying when it is servral times a day, i have apps on my phone which i dont use and dont need but cant delete these, ive been reasearching this now for a few weeks and everything that i have came across says root and delete, its not that simple is it? i would say that i can be quite good at this sort of stuff as ive made quite alot of my stuff to operate the way i want it, but every time i see anything about rooting it always say your phone can be bricked and i cant afford it to be bricked, i need it beleive it or not, anyway this site seems to have alot of very brainy and smart people on it, hence why i joined :good: can anyone help me with this problem, easy and safest way, will be most appreciated, i was just about to go down the kingo app way but decided to do more reasearch on it before hand and that has put me off it as people are saying there is stuff about spy cams and malware etc iplease help thanks. oh i ment to say i manage to turn my developer options on by total mistake and playing around with my phone so i have that on , if that helpsnetwork 3 in uk cheers guys.:cyclops: p.s. i have jelly bean 4.2.2
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hey i am new to android and got myself a acer liquid e2 as was told it was a good phone for the price etc, i do find this phone very surprising and i am totally happy with it apart from 1 problem i come across about 20 times a day, "storage space" i have plenty of space on my sd card it is the phone that is the problem, and every day i need to keep clearing my data and cache as it shuts all my emails etc down when the space has run out which is annoying when it is servral times a day, i have apps on my phone which i dont use and dont need but cant delete these, ive been reasearching this now for a few weeks and everything that i have came across says root and delete, its not that simple is it? i would say that i can be quite good at this sort of stuff as ive made quite alot of my stuff to operate the way i want it, but every time i see anything about rooting it always say your phone can be bricked and i cant afford it to be bricked, i need it beleive it or not, anyway this site seems to have alot of very brainy and smart people on it, hence why i joined :good: can anyone help me with this problem, easy and safest way, will be most appreciated, i was just about to go down the kingo app way but decided to do more reasearch on it before hand and that has put me off it as people are saying there is stuff about spy cams and malware etc iplease help thanks. oh i ment to say i manage to turn my developer options on by total mistake and playing around with my phone so i have that on , if that helpsnetwork 3 in uk cheers guys.:cyclops:
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Unfortunately removing the preloaded apps won't help your storage issues at all. Those apps are located in a different part of the system (/system/app) than the apps and data (/data/app + /data/data) that you add. You can (if rooted) move apps to the /system/app partition, but they don't always work or update correctly from there as it requires special permissions to run from there. But there really isn't much to do besides rooting it and doing some modifications to your set up. They don't call em budget phones for nothing.
Options include swapping the internal and external mount points so it reads your external as your main internal storage, creating a partition on your external and using a script to link your /data/app and/or /data/data folders to that partition so it reads as one big space (however big you make that partition), or using an app like Folder Mount to create a link between big folders on the internal to the external (mostly helpful for big game data). All of these require a bit of knowledge, but nothing that some time and reading can't help you with. It is not exactly rocket science. Knowing what update you are on though is important, both so you pick the right rooting method (there are multiple options if not on 4.2.2 yet) as well as, if, worst case happens, you know what version of the software you need to reload. You can find this info under Settings / About Phone. Make note of not just the android version, but the build or system version as well as there can be mini updates to software that changes things but not the actual android version.
As far as Kingo, I've never read anything other than hearsay about any potential malicious activity on their part. The reason you see most people freaking out about it is because when it first was introduced, it was known to send IMEI info back to their servers in China. Kingo never tried to hide the fact, explained their position about why they were doing it (diagnostics), and promptly changed how that was done. Now, by nature of what it is doing (root = gaining admin access to the operating system), it needs to download closed sourced scripts and files to gain this access . They don't want to disclose their sources for 2 reasons: 1) if the manufacturers of the phones that don't want it rooted see how it is done, then it's much easier to patch that on the next update and 2) so other people don't steal their work. Makes sense to me, but some people are concerned about closed sources (even though many apps already installed or that you download are closed source as well). I've used it on quite a few devices and have never had problems. You can uninstall the companion app it installs (it does this for some devices to help gain access through a backdoor) and update the SuperSU app and binary it installs via the Play Store, so don't really see it as an issue.
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hey i am new to android and got myself a acer liquid e2 as was told it was a good phone for the price etc, i do find this phone very surprising and i am totally happy with it apart from 1 problem i come across about 20 times a day, "storage space" i have plenty of space on my sd card it is the phone that is the problem, and every day i need to keep clearing my data and cache as it shuts all my emails etc down when the space has run out which is annoying when it is servral times a day, i have apps on my phone which i dont use and dont need but cant delete these, ive been reasearching this now for a few weeks and everything that i have came across says root and delete, its not that simple is it? i would say that i can be quite good at this sort of stuff as ive made quite alot of my stuff to operate the way i want it, but every time i see anything about rooting it always say your phone can be bricked and i cant afford it to be bricked, i need it beleive it or not, anyway this site seems to have alot of very brainy and smart people on it, hence why i joined :good: can anyone help me with this problem, easy and safest way, will be most appreciated, i was just about to go down the kingo app way but decided to do more reasearch on it before hand and that has put me off it as people are saying there is stuff about spy cams and malware etc iplease help thanks. oh i ment to say i manage to turn my developer options on by total mistake and playing around with my phone so i have that on , if that helpsnetwork 3 in uk cheers guys.:cyclops: p.s. i have jelly bean 4.2.2
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es0tericcha0s said:
Unfortunately removing the preloaded apps won't help your storage issues at all. Those apps are located in a different part of the system (/system/app) than the apps and data (/data/app + /data/data) that you add. You can (if rooted) move apps to the /system/app partition, but they don't always work or update correctly from there as it requires special permissions to run from there. But there really isn't much to do besides rooting it and doing some modifications to your set up. They don't call em budget phones for nothing.
Options include swapping the internal and external mount points so it reads your external as your main internal storage, creating a partition on your external and using a script to link your /data/app and/or /data/data folders to that partition so it reads as one big space (however big you make that partition), or using an app like Folder Mount to create a link between big folders on the internal to the external (mostly helpful for big game data). All of these require a bit of knowledge, but nothing that some time and reading can't help you with. It is not exactly rocket science. Knowing what update you are on though is important, both so you pick the right rooting method (there are multiple options if not on 4.2.2 yet) as well as, if, worst case happens, you know what version of the software you need to reload. You can find this info under Settings / About Phone. Make note of not just the android version, but the build or system version as well as there can be mini updates to software that changes things but not the actual android version.
As far as Kingo, I've never read anything other than hearsay about any potential malicious activity on their part. The reason you see most people freaking out about it is because when it first was introduced, it was known to send IMEI info back to their servers in China. Kingo never tried to hide the fact, explained their position about why they were doing it (diagnostics), and promptly changed how that was done. Now, by nature of what it is doing (root = gaining admin access to the operating system), it needs to download closed sourced scripts and files to gain this access . They don't want to disclose their sources for 2 reasons: 1) if the manufacturers of the phones that don't want it rooted see how it is done, then it's much easier to patch that on the next update and 2) so other people don't steal their work. Makes sense to me, but some people are concerned about closed sources (even though many apps already installed or that you download are closed source as well). I've used it on quite a few devices and have never had problems. You can uninstall the companion app it installs (it does this for some devices to help gain access through a backdoor) and update the SuperSU app and binary it installs via the Play Store, so don't really see it as an issue.
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Wow thanks very much, a was not exspecting that reply and so quickly, so thanks , well as i said i am new to the android, and the whole rooting thing makes me nervous as i havent done it before, and i dont want to break my phone, i do know there is always a risk in anything really, but would like to know if possible the best for my phone, i am on jelly bean 4.2.2 and kernel 3.4.5 and is it the build number you need or the custom build version? also i dont know if this is important but i actually dont have wifi and use the usb tethering for my pc to get online, is it still possible to do it this way? cheers
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Wow thanks very much, a was not exspecting that reply and so quickly, so thanks , well as i said i am new to the android, and the whole rooting thing makes me nervous as i havent done it before, and i dont want to break my phone, i do know there is always a risk in anything really, but would like to know if possible the best for my phone, i am on jelly bean 4.2.2 and kernel 3.4.5 and is it the build number you need or the custom build version? also i dont know if this is important but i actually dont have wifi and use the usb tethering for my pc to get online, is it still possible to do it this way? cheers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518094
That's a guide with everything you should need to fix the phone if anything were to happen or to just return it to it's original state if wanted / needed. Read through the thread a bit and see where other members were having trouble and the solutions to those. If you get comfortable with that and how it works, then modding your phone becomes much less scary. And once you are rooted, tethering is even better because you can typically hide your activity much more. I don't know if it is a big deal with carriers around where you live, but here, most people have to pay for tethering or make sure to have special plans that typically cost more than ones that don't include it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518094
That's a guide with everything you should need to fix the phone if anything were to happen or to just return it to it's original state if wanted / needed. Read through the thread a bit and see where other members were having trouble and the solutions to those. If you get comfortable with that and how it works, then modding your phone becomes much less scary. And once you are rooted, tethering is even better because you can typically hide your activity much more. I don't know if it is a big deal with carriers around where you live, but here, most people have to pay for tethering or make sure to have special plans that typically cost more than ones that don't include it.
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Thanks very much!! a will go have a look at the thread just now, really appreciate your help and time, thanks
I know everyone has there own ways and own apps they like, people like different things and different ways to do things, I am looking for the basics, I want to know that ive not installed 2 or 3 apps that basically the same stuff, and is pointless having them,
I know that some are imperative to have on a rooted phone, and some are just to help people do certain things, here is the thing I have got all these apps downloaded and havent used any apart from 1, and only just tweaked a few basic things as dont want to ruin my phone,
ive not even backed my phone up yet or flashed a custom rom, both are high on my list to do but cant seem to find the answers out there which I know will be some were,
The thing is there is not much at all on my phone "acer liquid e2 v370" so dont want to use stuff from another phone incase it doesn't work and I brick my phone,
Anyway if someone out there can help me or even show me the door to were I can find this stiff out then I would appreciate it so much, anyway back to the question in hand, about the apps I have installed, are they the right ones? and I dont have 2 apps that, basically do the same things,
Ok this is what I have and if anyway possible anyone can either tell me or show me were to find the things I need to know about these apps,
And if it would work on my phone etc etc, ok this is what I have, 1st is supersu, titanium backup, busybox, t.w.r.p., android tuner, root uninstaller, root checker, this is it all ive got, I know everyone has different things depending on what they want to do with there android system, I just want to start with the basics and learn as I go, everyone starts at the bottom, so only way to become the best is get your hands dirty so to speak, so here I am wantinf to get involved just hope that someone out there can pass some knowledge my way as it will be appreciated so much, thanks again for your time and reading my thread, bazzaboy1:good:
can no one help?
bazzaboy1 said:
I know everyone has there own ways and own apps they like, people like different things and different ways to do things, I am looking for the basics, I want to know that ive not installed 2 or 3 apps that basically the same stuff, and is pointless having them,
I know that some are imperative to have on a rooted phone, and some are just to help people do certain things, here is the thing I have got all these apps downloaded and havent used any apart from 1, and only just tweaked a few basic things as dont want to ruin my phone,
ive not even backed my phone up yet or flashed a custom rom, both are high on my list to do but cant seem to find the answers out there which I know will be some were,
The thing is there is not much at all on my phone "acer liquid e2 v370" so dont want to use stuff from another phone incase it doesn't work and I brick my phone,
Anyway if someone out there can help me or even show me the door to were I can find this stiff out then I would appreciate it so much, anyway back to the question in hand, about the apps I have installed, are they the right ones? and I dont have 2 apps that, basically do the same things,
Ok this is what I have and if anyway possible anyone can either tell me or show me were to find the things I need to know about these apps,
And if it would work on my phone etc etc, ok this is what I have, 1st is supersu, titanium backup, busybox, t.w.r.p., android tuner, root uninstaller, root checker, this is it all ive got, I know everyone has different things depending on what they want to do with there android system, I just want to start with the basics and learn as I go, everyone starts at the bottom, so only way to become the best is get your hands dirty so to speak, so here I am wantinf to get involved just hope that someone out there can pass some knowledge my way as it will be appreciated so much, thanks again for your time and reading my thread, bazzaboy1:good:
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is there no one out there that can help? I know you all get loads of messages a day on this, but I really need some help, I went through all this and rooted my phone now cant do anything with it, it feels like ive just passed my driving test got a new car but cant drive it, someone please help me drive my car theoretical mind you cheers big thumbs up:good:
I own a Xperia Z2 D6502 with android 5.1.1 and build number 23.4.A.1.232 which I would like to root. I have never rooted any of my phones before so I dont know anything about it. After spending much time on this forum I found this link but I am not sure if these are the right instructions for my xperia Z2 5.1.1 23.4.A.1.232.
What I understood after reading this article was that after following these instructions I would have a rooted lollipop 5.1.1 version on my phone. However I dont want this. I want any suitable(which makes my phone faster and doesnt affect camera quality) rom(I dont know much about them either) with KitKat on my xperia device.
Can anyone please help me to achieve the above with all the detailed steps as I am totally new to this?
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Follow that guide but in step 3 (Then flash the latest*23.4.A.0.546*zip file, which is pre rooted) flash your kitkat rom or whatever you want. Look in the dev section.
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Follow that guide but in step 3 (Then flash the latest*23.4.A.0.546*zip file, which is pre rooted) flash your kitkat rom or whatever you want. Look in the dev section.
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Thank You so much. Can you please suggest me a ROM? And provide a download link?
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Thank You so much. Can you please suggest me a ROM? And provide a download link?
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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I just want to explore and learn things. Some problems I face with xperia Z2 are wifi connectivity, my voice isnt clear to other side while on call, low battery life and runs slow given its hardware specifications.
Cant you unistall the apps which occupy your memory given your device is rooted?
And what if I dont update my device?
I also read about losing my drm keys after flashing, though I didnt understand completely what it meant.
I want to install rooted version of Sony 4.4.4 rom but after searching the forum I cant decide which one I should download. Please help.
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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Sorry to hijack the tread.... Did you have "full root"?
I think i'm having issues on SELinux or mounting permissions.
I can't remove system apps( w/ root uninstaller ), or change system files.
I manually changed selinux (su -c "setenforce 0"), solve it but was not persistent. Installed SELinuxmodechanger, but i think it's not fully working after reboot...
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Sorry to hijack the tread.... Did you have "full root"?
I think i'm having issues on SELinux or mounting permissions.
I can't remove system apps( w/ root uninstaller ), or change system files.
I manually changed selinux (su -c "setenforce 0"), solve it but was not persistent. Installed SELinuxmodechanger, but i think it's not fully working after reboot...
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Do you have nuts deul recovery installed? Thats meant to disable RIC during boot to make /system rw, allowing you to remove system apps.
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I just want to explore and learn things. Some problems I face with xperia Z2 are wifi connectivity, my voice isnt clear to other side while on call, low battery life and runs slow given its hardware specifications.
Cant you unistall the apps which occupy your memory given your device is rooted?
And what if I dont update my device?
I also read about losing my drm keys after flashing, though I didnt understand completely what it meant.
I want to install rooted version of Sony 4.4.4 rom but after searching the forum I cant decide which one I should download. Please help.
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Keep reading mate. If you lose the DRM keys you can't get them back without a backup, you can't use ones someone else backed up either.
I can uninstall some of the preinstalled apps if I want but as I haven't run out of space I haven't yet. I'm also interested in seeing what Sony does with them, some I'll not use and others I glance at.
Battery life is pretty impressive for me but it varies with how you use your device. I play Ingress and if I'm out playing I get five hours, that's with the screen on, GPS and data going. Not many phones can do that.
Calls are normally clear although I've noticed that if I'm lying on my bed talking it doesn't cope very well, I have to twist my head so the ear I'm using is away from the pillow. I assume it's because the noise cancelling microphone is on the top and gets confused/muffled as when I move my head it's great. I've had people comment on how clear I sound on this phone.
I've not had any trouble with WiFi and haven't felt the phone is slow. So how are you determining that your device is slow? What is it doing which makes you feel it is slow?
Not sure what you mean by not updating your device. If you mean not updating the ROM nothing really happens but as time passes there is a greater chance that apps will stop working, it depends on what you use and if the makers of them what a minimum Android version for them. Also if there are security flaws the longer you used an unpatched device the greater the chance that you'll get compromised. It is quite irritating that we're not fully patched for Stagefright yet.
As for the original question about how to root this ROM version, the short answer is, you can't. Well not yet that I've seen.
To root the phone you have to downgrade, gain root and then upgrade to what you want to run while keeping root. You found the guide already, follow it. If you don't understand or aren't confident about doing it I'd suggest not doing it. If it's your only device and primary phone is it worth breaking it and being without a phone?
If you want to learn about Android devices in general pick up a cheap device to play with and learn on, the Z2 is still quite expensive. You could probably pick up one with a broken screen pretty cheaply online, as long as you can read the screen you can play around and learn on it. Just plug a mouse in if the digitiser doesn't work.
I used a stock Samsung GS2 for years while reading about things, then I got a tablet and started playing with that as it was just inconvenient to me if I broke it, I still had a working phone.
@clawpt I'm not sure what you mean by "full root". I can uninstall things if I want though, perhaps Matt's reply will help you.
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Do you have nuts deul recovery installed? Thats meant to disable RIC during boot to make /system rw, allowing you to remove system apps.
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Yes. I'm using "Z2-lockeddualrecovery2.8.x-RELEASE.flashable.zip". I'm on unlocked bootloader, maybe i need to use the other variant (i'm on stock kernel, should not be a problem)?
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@clawpt I'm not sure what you mean by "full root". I can uninstall things if I want though, perhaps Matt's reply will help you.
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Meaning that you also have rw permissions.
I can't delete system apps, i can't modify/create a file at "/".
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Keep reading mate. If you lose the DRM keys you can't get them back without a backup, you can't use ones someone else backed up either.
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I will try to back them up given they are still there because I already rooted my phone to pre rooted stock rom 5.1.1 as mentioned in the guide I found.
Calls are normally clear although I've noticed that if I'm lying on my bed talking it doesn't cope very well, I have to twist my head so the ear I'm using is away from the pillow. I assume it's because the noise cancelling microphone is on the top and gets confused/muffled as when I move my head it's great. I've had people comment on how clear I sound on this phone.
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Maybe I have hardware issues or network problems as people usually complain about my voice being not clear.
I've not had any trouble with WiFi and haven't felt the phone is slow. So how are you determining that your device is slow? What is it doing which makes you feel it is slow?
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Sometimes my device doesnt connect to saved wifi networks automatically, I have to connect it manually.
If I open too many tabs in my chrome browser, chrome crashes. Sometimes dialer also takes too much time to open.
Not sure what you mean by not updating your device. If you mean not updating the ROM nothing really happens but as time passes there is a greater chance that apps will stop working, it depends on what you use and if the makers of them what a minimum Android version for them. Also if there are security flaws the longer you used an unpatched device the greater the chance that you'll get compromised. It is quite irritating that we're not fully patched for Stagefright yet.
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I meant update that sony provides. After rooting my phone I am still getting updates from sony(I didnt expect them), so if I update using sony updates will my phone lose its root status(I mean will it still be rooted)?
As for the original question about how to root this ROM version, the short answer is, you can't. Well not yet that I've seen.
To root the phone you have to downgrade, gain root and then upgrade to what you want to run while keeping root. You found the guide already, follow it. If you don't understand or aren't confident about doing it I'd suggest not doing it. If it's your only device and primary phone is it worth breaking it and being without a phone?
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I wasnt much confident but still I proceeded with the steps mentioned in the guide and with a little help from google, I was fortunately able to root my device. Yes, its the only phone I have but I couldnt afford a new one and I waited too long for its warranty to expire.
Can you please provide me with a source to learn about general concepts involved in rooting like flashing, busybox, unlocking boot loader, etc. I am trying to google each thing individually, but i cant seem to find a place where I could learn things in a proper order, moving from basics to more advanced concepts.
Thank you so much for your help.
I would like you to clear one more thing for me, when I followed the guide, I first flashed my device with 17.1.2.A.0.314 ftf file and then installed flashable_D6502_23.4.A.0.546.zip from the recovery menu. So what is a ftf file and what is the difference between the two steps I followed. In my understanding, both basically did the same thing, i.e., installing a new rom. Is ftf file sony specific?
Thanks again.
@berbatov93 definitely back up the DRM keys before unlocking the boot loader, it was a fairly simple process from memory.
We need more information on the sound problem. Does it happen consistently? If it isn't consistent look for a common situation when you have the problem, like loud noises, high wind etc. Have you used the diagnostics tool to test the microphone? It's in Settings > About phone > Diagnostics.
Thinking about it a bit more, sometimes there seems to be a little pause for people to hear me. I'm not sure if it's phone or network based, I guess it could be phone related while it works out the background noise cancelling magic.
WiFi being slow to connect is a better description than, "my device is too slow."
Sometimes I notice that it hasn't automatically connected to my WiFi when I get home but by the time I notice and look it's connecting. Is that what you mean?
What setting do you have the WiFi on when the phone is asleep? Settings > WiFi > ... menu > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep.
Everything is slow with lots of Chrome tabs open, you could try a different browser or just be better at closing tabs.
I've never noticed any slow launching with the dialer, perhaps your call history is huge? Try backing it up with an app from the Play Store and then deleting it to see if that is the cause. Each time you open it it looks at that to display it.
As you're on a stock ROM it will notify you that there is a new update. If you let it update though you'll lose root and then have to downgrade again to get it back. I just wait for the update to be available through XperiFirm, download it and make a pre-rooted flashable zip. There is a thread about how to do that here. That thread will also answer your question about what you did which seemed like flashing two ROMs, you did but in different ways.
I still don't know enough so I can't answer your questions but it looks like your Google Fu is weak. :silly:
Try this link, it won't always be the top search result though.
There are lots of different summaries about what rooting does for you, I don't want to try and summarise them for you. (I'd rather go to bed, it's 4:30am for me!)
Just reading a description of one of the various Busybox installers on the Play Store should answer that question, I bought this one. I can't remember if a friend recommended it to me or something I read somewhere, but I bought it as I appreciated the effort the developer put in for the rest of us to use. The same with SuperSU Pro.
Bootloaders are trickier, probably something you'll get better answers by reading more or using Google. These days they seem to all be locked with a way of unlocking them from the device manufacturer which lets them record your IMEI or serial number. I assume they do this so if you send it back for a warranty claim they can see you've unlocked it and then charge you to fix something you've screwed up. I've never taken anything back so I don't know.
They're something I have to learn more about too but if you find out more before me please fill me in.
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Should I use this to take backup? And what kind of backup should I take to recover my device from bootloop? I wanted to install xposed on my device, but it was warned somewhere that sony devices might go into bootloop and that I should take a backup to restore my device. What kind of backup can help me recover my device from bootloop or soft brick?
We need more information on the sound problem. Does it happen consistently? If it isn't consistent look for a common situation when you have the problem, like loud noises, high wind etc. Have you used the diagnostics tool to test the microphone? It's in Settings > About phone > Diagnostics.
Thinking about it a bit more, sometimes there seems to be a little pause for people to hear me. I'm not sure if it's phone or network based, I guess it could be phone related while it works out the background noise cancelling magic.
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It happens most of the time, even when I am in a closed room with no background disturbances.
WiFi being slow to connect is a better description than, "my device is too slow."
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That was a wifi issue, it just didnt connect automatically, I had to do it manually even for saved networks.
Sometimes I notice that it hasn't automatically connected to my WiFi when I get home but by the time I notice and look it's connecting. Is that what you mean?
What setting do you have the WiFi on when the phone is asleep? Settings > WiFi > ... menu > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep.
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It just shows connecting but doesnt connect until select the network. Keep wifi on during sleep was enabled.
Everything is slow with lots of Chrome tabs open, you could try a different browser or just be better at closing tabs.
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Then maybe its a chrome issue.
As you're on a stock ROM it will notify you that there is a new update. If you let it update though you'll lose root and then have to downgrade again to get it back. I just wait for the update to be available through XperiFirm, download it and make a pre-rooted flashable zip. There is a thread about how to do that here. That thread will also answer your question about what you did which seemed like flashing two ROMs, you did but in different ways.
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I needed 4.4.4 pre rooted stock ROM for D6502 but cant seem to find it anywhere. I read the steps in the thread you mentioned about creating a pre rooted ROM, but steps are not explained in detail for someone new like me. I am also scared a little to try something new on my device as I am already facing a few problems. Can you provide me with a link with much more detailed steps?
I still don't know enough so I can't answer your questions but it looks like your Google Fu is weak. :silly:
Try this link, it won't always be the top search result though.
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I feel silly now.
Bootloaders are trickier, probably something you'll get better answers by reading more or using Google. These days they seem to all be locked with a way of unlocking them from the device manufacturer which lets them record your IMEI or serial number. I assume they do this so if you send it back for a warranty claim they can see you've unlocked it and then charge you to fix something you've screwed up. I've never taken anything back so I don't know.
They're something I have to learn more about too but if you find out more before me please fill me in.
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Will sony be able to fix my device in case I screwed up and bricked it?
Thanks.
@berbatov93 I'm sure Sony will fix it if you pay them too!
Hopefully it won't come to that though, they're pretty hard to brick because of the way they've set things up. Even if you soft brick it you can power it off, fire up the flash tool and then hold volume down and plug USB in, press flash and it'll put a base Sony ROM on for you. I've kept the D6503_17.1.A.2.55_Generic AU 1281-9715.ftf file on my PC for just that reason but I haven't had to reuse it yet.
I don't know of any other instructions for making your own pre-rooted zip file, it took me a fair bit of reading and looking at menu options to work it out the first time but it's pretty easy. You won't screw your phone up with it as it will fail before you get it to the phone if you do it incorrectly. As with most things in life you have to learn from experience, just follow the instructions with the programs open so you can refer back to them. You could try Google for better instructions, I'm not sure if anyone wrote something more newbie friendly.
As for the WiFi problem perhaps a different ROM version will sort it out, also you might want to get all your data off your phone and do a completely fresh install on it and see if that sorts it out. The backups people talk about as Nandroids are done from in the custom recovery, have a look in there now you've got it working again. I'm not going to reply to the other thread as I see you did it all again.
I doubt there are any pre-rooted 4.4.4 still around as most people have moved on. There's probably no need to make a pre-rooted one though, one of the root exploits works on it so you could just download, via XperiFirm, the 4.4.4 you want and flash it, then root it. I've never downloaded a pre-rooted ROM as I'm overly cautious, I'm not even keen on using the one click root programs as I can't read what they're doing!
You could call it a Chrome problem but I'd really call it a user problem. Like I said originally you could try another browser and see if it copes better but they aren't really designed to have lots of tabs open. Each tab takes up memory, so you'll fill it all up and then it will start using virtual memory but eventually it will crash. It happens on desktop computers too, I've got 8GB of RAM in my PC but Chrome eats it all up if I open too many tabs.
I don't know what to do about your mic problems in call, I'd take it back to where you got it from and see what they say. But I'm pretty sure you've waited too long as you indicated it was out of warranty which is why you've started looking at root options now. If you've been having problems for a while you should have taken it back before you lost that. It's still worth asking the store/phone company about it though, just make sure they don't go charging you anything to fix it without asking you about it.
You might just have to chalk it up to experience and live with it. Never be afraid to ask for things to be looked at while the warranty is valid, it might be inconvenient but if something needs fixing it's better to use the warranty than pay for it.
The other option would be to use a headset for calls, I picked up an SBH52 and I'm pretty happy with it. As long as you don't lose or break it it will work with whatever phone you end up replacing your Z2 with.