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Has anyone tried this baby yet? If You have then please some feedback.
I bought one a couple months ago when i bought my hermes, it does add a good centimeter to the phone's thickness, but i think it's oh so worth it.
i.e. - Regular battery with regular use(internet here and there, no music) I *might* get a day and a half before it's completely dead.
3000mAh battery - With regular to heavy use after 3 days i still usually have around 40% battery left. Best thing I've ever bought for my phone, except for maybe my jawbone 2 headset ^^
oh speaking of that, with a bluetooth headset synched to my hermes with the regular battery it's dead in a day, whereas again, I avg about 3 or so with the 3000mAh with the bluetooth headset synched all day everyday.
its 2X of the standard 1350mAH
Hi, I have the 1500mAh Li-POL, exactly same size as the original.
I can't really say if the duration is really better than the original one when new. I had a different ROM/Radio and have no intention to get back to WM5 just to test.
By the way, lately I observed a faster drain (anyway more than 1 day with normal use) but might be related to a Radio downgrade carried by an installed ROM. I hope I can give new (and more positive) info when I upgrade the Radio again.
Sounds good to me, i will get one sometime, if i can get double the battery life out of my hermes, i will be happy
how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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£14 from a quick search on ebay UK. No sign of a 3000mAh on Dealextreme yet though (99% cheapest supplier!)
I have a 2800mah I've been using for a while, def improvement on the stock one but I'd quite like a second high capacity one to keep in my pocket.
best $16 spent EVER!! i love my battery it takes me whole 3days to kill it including playing MP3's, Internet, Texting and camera. GET IT YOU WON'T BE SORRY
is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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I picked up one of the 3000mAh extended batteries several months back after my original stopped holding much charge. Great battery life on the new one, but after a while I started noticing odd issues popping up. The LED would show yellow instead of green, and I'd get the red charging failure led every so often.
Now those could have just been the age of the phone (almost 3 years old now with heavy and abusive use), but the main issue I know was the extended battery was the unit randomly started powering off. Often this would happen if I had the phone in my pocket, so I thought maybe the battery wasn't making a solid connection. Then it started happening when I had it laying on a table. I may have just gotten a bad battery out of the bunch, but it definitely doesn't seem up to snuff compared to OEM.
I've since gone back to using my original battery with it sitting on the charger almost all day. Never powers off randomly anymore. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: I should note that if you go through a reputable battery seller you shouldn't have any issues. I went through ebay and picked up the extended battery + cover + car charger for ~$15. I wasn't expecting much from the battery
Hi, Bin looking at some of the mobile solar panels you can get for charging your phone on the go. Some seem quiet practical and strap onto backpacks etc.
Anyone have any experience with these? Do they work? How do they fare with our power hungry HD's?
I have Powermonkey eXplorer and it is so usefull! I had it with me on my trip to Bulgaria and for week I didnt have to use wall charger for my ipod nor Touch Diamond.
It requires lots of sun to charge from empty to full but it is very good if for example leaving on car hood (inside) to charge battery.
For straight solar panel -> phone or other device it is good for retaining or slowly charging device. When I was on beach I listened music almost all the time and it solar panel kept battery full always.
Remember, solar panel needs sun! Here Finland it is pretty useless except now that summer comes.
Bought mine from inkino.co.uk for 45£ and always keeping it with me when going little farther from wallchargers.
I have one as well. If your battery is near empty it will recharge to about 25% before draining completely, still enough to get you out of an emergency. You should know that it takes about 10 hours to charge using the solar cells but you can use a notebook USB port to charge it in about an hour. I would say definitely a useful device, I use it mostly if watching movies on my HD.
Thanks Guys, Are there any that will fully recharge the battery from dead?
I've seen some that come with a 1000mAh and you can get replacement batteries for bout £10.
Rekon its worth gettin one with a few batteries n charging each o them? I'm planning a trip where I'm not going to be able to charge the phone during the day, so charging a secondary battery would be useful.
If you dont mind messing with a soldering iron, you might want to try this out.
Not sure if it'll work on our baby, but it looks interesting and fun.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/800000/solar_powered_usb_charger_cheap_and_easy_to_make/
At least its cheap 8O)
Vey Nice! Maybe as a summer project just to see how well it works. Might try it out on my old wizard 1st
In the meantime! any1 else had any experience with the commercial ones? I'm worried they wont have enough clout to charge a touch HD
I've got the Power Monkey solar charger mentioned above but it only discharges my battery. I have never seen it recharge as it should. Probably not powerful enough.
How about the onion trick? Will be interested if that one works
Done It!
Hi, got an old garden solar panel given to me. Just hooked it up to a USB cable and voila!
Even managed to charge two phones at once!
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Hi,
Here is some information on free loader charger.
Free Loader charger absorbs the suns energy quickly and can store it as electrical charge for up to three months.
The Free Loader is 120mm long when fully extended, and 17mm thick, made of smooth aluminium. The solar panels slide out when you want to charge it, and can alternatively be charged via USB if the sun hasn’t got his hat on. Then you add on one of the various included adaptors, connect it up to your chosen device and voila- extra juice! It can run a phone for 44 hours, an iPod for 18 hours and a PSP for 2.5 hours. Apparently.
I've tried the Soldius1 and Solio units.
The Soldius1 is a foldable panel with no battery. That means it's a power source only in direct sunlight., so you'd have to carry them around or leave your HD where you leave the chargers.
Unfortunately, one of them wasn't strong enough to actually charge the HD. External power is detected, and the HD wil indicate that it's charging, but any power it thinks it has will appear to be drained in a couple of minutes, so it's just some voltage thing it measured rather than actual charge!
They're relatively cheap however, so i just bought two of them and made myself a cable that connects the two Soldius units in parallel, and this time it actually worked pretty well I put the HD nice and cool in the shade and put the two Soldius1 units in the sun with a USB extension cable, and they were able to charge the HD up to half its capacity in about 2 to 3 hours. Only thing is you'd have to get two of them and make your own cable like i did.
So even though this works, i didn't like the hassle with the working but poorly built cable, so i bought a Solio Classic as well. This is a collapsible charger that has three rotating blades that can form a flowerlike shape when unfolded. This one does have a battery pack, so if you charge it before you go it's even useful if you don't see a single ray of sun In addition, you can leave your Solio out in the sun while you run around with your HD and charge it overnight at the end of the day, since the Solio has been gathering its charge on its own.
It turns out that the Solio can charge the HD up to full capacity if the Solio was fully charged itself. However, i wasn't able to charge the Solio for more than half of its capacity during the day. I left it unattended, so there may have been shadows and clouds, and i only did this for two days (i drained its charge into the HD each time, so it started out empty both times). Then again, they weren't particularly sunny days, so you might get more out them.
In any case, if you live somewhere where there is a lot of sun you can do with the Soldius method if you don't mind fiddling with wires and cables. If you want a more compact unit and want the added advantage of having a backup battery pack, go with the Solio.
First of all, hello to everyone. I have been reading through a lot of threads here in the last few weeks after getting my HD2, especially the ones about battery life.
I have never owned a smartphone, so I have no comparison but I'm barely getting through 1 day of use when fully charged! And I'm not even using it that much yet, Wifi is off, no data transfers, just some texting and calls. I have installed Bandswitch and Battlog, didn't really help though.
Got the phone brand new (T-Mobile US) and haven't done any major tweaking yet, it's still pretty much stock with a few programs that I installed so far.
Do you guys have a similar experience or is it completely different? I love the phone, but if I dont even get through one day of use (and I want to use the phone in the future, not just for surfing but for music streaming or web browsing), I would have to bring it back.
Any help appreciated!
It's just something you have to live with, buy a spare battery, or the extended battery, flash a lighter ROM, adjust screen brightness turn off push e-mails etc etc.
I can get 2 days battery from very light use. i.e. a few texts and calls a day, no Wi-Fi, bluetooth or internet browsing. That's just how smartphones are.
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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Maybe you shouldn't have a smart phone? Battery technology is ****, it's a shame, but it's true. The only thing I can suggest is a spare battery, I carry one everywhere.
I generally watch an hour and a half of video a day on my phone, text, call, use the internet and I can still make a 9 hour day with 40%+ battery left, and just incase I am out and about in the evening before I have a chance to get the phone on charge I have the spare.
But with that said half hours charge from the mains will give you a good 30% topup I very seldom have to swap the batterys and I use a pretty juicy ROM.
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Given his kind of use, 2 days should be normal. Right now I'm squeezing 3 days out of this battery, and that's only because I swap it out when it's at 10%, otherwise it could be a little longer... and a few calls here and there is not the only thing I did with it... it's still my work pda after all
Since it's pretty much stock, unless it gets better with time (the first recharging cycles are the worst) and even after a hard reset it won't get better, it probably is something wrong not software related.
Install battclock and check the standby battery drain, shouldn't be much higher than 4mA, up to 7mA could be normal, any higher than that, especially if significant, and you've got something wrong, and found the cause to the short battery life.
First off, buy a couple of cheap oem batteries from here...
Now, these eBay batteries have performed slightly better than the original battery...
Some of us smartphone users are so used to poor battery life we have power charging cradles at home work and car just to keep the charge up... And have spare batteries every in case of emergency...
I take my phone off the charger at 6am to go to work... My avg day is 6-10 calls, 20 reminders, an hour of UNO, an hour as a wifi router and I return home at 5pm with 50-60% battery life...
they are trying to make batteries smaller and thinner so they can make the phones thinner and smaller so battery life is compromised. But you do need to give it some time to settle in.
Back up batteries and cradles to charge them are cheap and an easy solution. So are extra chargers to keep at work, in the car, etc. Most people can charge their phone at least an hour during the day and that should give you all you need.
The only smartphone that I didn't carry an extra battery for was the moto q9c, because it came with an extended life battery. But on these phones, that probably isn't the best option.
So what did you guys do to improve the battery life of your HD2? Are there any specific programs (I heared about G-Profile) you are not supposed to use or did you guys just deinstall all the T-Mobile Apps?
If I can just get 1 day of actual use out of it I am OK with that. I just dont want to have die every second or third day if I use more often than normal...
Any suggestions or may tests I could do? I feel like I could stream music on Slacker for about 90 Minutes and the battery would be dead...
EDIT: Just did Battlog for about 15 Minutes, my phone uses between 15ma and 31ma when in standby. So where do I start, how do I find the culprit?
I love huge screen HTC devices and Im a power user, so my solutions for power issues are:
Callpod Fueltank Duo
http://palmtops.about.com/od/accessoriesperipherials/fr/Callpod-Fueltank-Duo-Review.htm
Mugen Extended-size High-capacity 2600mAh Battery for HTC HD2
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
There is a 15% discount right now, better hurry.
Extra chargers and thats it! Now I browse, calls, emails, music, videos, TV stream (Slingplayer) and maximize all of the other features of my HD2 t9193.
Software and the end-user are the cause behind battery drain. I've got 2.5days out of moderate use so I don't think it's the hardware at all.
Methods for testing battery consumption and proof it is typically software related
Hi,
At the risk of looking like I'm trying to hijack this thread, I started a discussion on this particular subject a while ago as feedback on my finding after reading almost all the threads I could find regarding battery use on the HD2. Lude219 is 100% correct, the issue is always software related (yea, I know there might be exceptions to the rule) and my phone was a prime example of that.
See the thread below that explains how to measure your battery consumption, has logs and screen shots from users you have high consumption and also people who have systems where battery life is more than 48 hours so that you can compare your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
Regards
I'm also sure it's software related. My phone would use app. 2% overnight with all connections closed. This i tested over months. Then suddenly without me changing anything drastic software wise, it pulled 5% per 3-4 hours. So after going thru all the cleaning routines nothing helped exept a good "ram cleaning" . Somehow or other the phone starts processes over time wich consume alot of power. One would have to look into it with a process manager to find out what exactly it is. WinMo seems to be quite sofisticated looking at all the running processes. So my view is , keeping the system tidy might be the only way to save the extra power.This is where the huge diffrence to other platforms seems to be, it can take quite a while until you have configured your phone the way you need it. I am useing the stock rom 1.66 German
thanks you guys for participating and sharing your thoughts.
But now, here is a thinker:
Last night, I let my battery drain all the way to zero and then recharged it at night. The only other thing I did was installing BSBTweaks and Touch X Taskmanager. I also changed my Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before).
And I couldnt believe what I was seeing, I took my phone off the charger this morning around 8.30am and now at 7pm I am still at 84%!!! I did not use the phone heavily but sent and received a few texts, made 1 call and played around with it for a little bit. Similiarly to what I did in the beginning after I got the phone, but then the battery had almost died at 7pm!
I am super happy and hope it stays like that but cannot explain why all the sudden it is that different...
Hi everyone,
This is a very usefull thread, for me it is, thanks to everybody that answered.
regrding the last post, a noobish quesition is
”Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before): how do i do this?”
I remember stumbling upon this setting the day i got the phone and started viciously going through it.
Somehow it didnt store in my memory the path i went that day so i can try doing what the man sugested.
So if anyone can lay a hand, much obliged.
Regards
i lost 12 pct over night in 9 hours with my radio turned off last night and only gmail and texts were open...
with battlog how do i do the test so it stays in standby? it keeps turning the screen on and off when i run benchmark
You may want to flash a new radio. Try a new one each day and measure battery life. I use radio 2.12.50 and have had a good experience.
yeah but with my radio turned off the radio shouldnt affect it shoudl it?
i use blackberry to stream pandora radio thru aux for about 8 hours a day and it still has 2 bars left after that.
HD2 just sits there and kills the battery lol
what kind of phone is that when you have to disable all its functions every time you dont use it?
seriously this is called unfinished product or poor design, that is beeing sold to customers as a next best thing.
you guys can argue with me all you want. i heard many excuses from users advocating the companies. such as. if you dont like this than pay more for a better product. well HD2 is a better product, its a 500 dollar phone damn it.
but you dont realize that even the "better" products suffer from same underdevelopment syndrome.
companies spend millions on consumer research and consumers spend millions on **** they dont need every year. cows eat grass, consumers eat garbage made by big companies.
where are the better products? they dont exist because it became "normal" to have a faulty OS or for your phone buttons to fall off, or battery to explode.
companies worked long and hard to make consumers get used to the idea that garbage is just a part of life, and worked long and hard to minimize costs of production, and cut corners.
which corners?
the final QA testing that is not beeing done by a company, so they can release the phone 3 months earlier, the consumers pay for the phone and test it.
we work for the company and we pay for it instead of getting paid.
the phone breaks oh how sad ,
company takes note(dont use this cheap glue or the buttons fall off, get a lil more expensive glue next year)
so they use better glue and cut another corner and we buy another "new and improved phone" and this time screen goes dim oh dang not again...and it continues.
do you disconnect your car battery every night so it doesnt die? or when you buy a lexus do you drive with your AC off because it cant pull the car around when ac is on same time as the stereo?
Despite all the tricks to help preserve battery, I still find the performance of y standard 930 mAh battery very bad. Is there an extended (reliabl) battery for rhis phone and where can I get it?
Just gonna drop my experience in. It seems the battery lasts for about a day and a half. Which can be seen as over three days (depends what time you charge it on the first day) instead of using the normal homescreen, download helix launcher from the market, it helps alot
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One day and a half compared to my brothers Samsung's week is really a disgrace.
I already have another home screen, just got to like it, so not changing it at the moment.
I have contacted Seidio as they make extended batterys for other phones. Would not hurt if oter people did that too, so please, those who care about this problem, contact them and ask them.
I bought on e-bay a 1450mAh battery made by Jin Dian. A drastic improvement.
Didi anybody else try this? I got it but I'm not convinced it's better.
Seeing you all really hungry for power, it's just feel right to warn you guys. Never ever use cheap small portable charger that you spot either on a shop or ebay no matter how desperate you are. If you use it, best scenario, it only ruin your battery, or in the worse (like me) it ruin the phone. Both case has the same end result, the battery discharging way to quickly even when Idle.
How did it ruin your phone?
I would like to know. thanks
As I'm a long distance cyclist, I already own the Biologic ReeCharge. Anything that can be charged by usb can also be charged by that tool. I can use both my bicycle dynomo hub and the electricity network at home to charge the ReeCharge. Witch then is able to charge my phone. It's a kind of extra battery. Never have had any problems with that and I'm always glad on a cycle trip that I can keep my gadgets (most important gps) charged
http://www.dahon.com/accessories/2010/biologic-reecharge
Well, I don't know the technical details but it fried my batteries (that's right, more than one) before I realized it was the portable charger that caused and even after stop using it, it's still recurring (therefore, the phone is at fault) After asking my friend who used the same type charger once. They all said that it ruined their phones and told me if I want to have a portable charger, go for the lithium one that sony Ericsson's is selling.
hi,
i'm using varta charger type 57048:
http://www.amazon.de/Varta-Professi...=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1291062768&sr=8-3
and i don't want to miss it on longer journeys. the usb-out function i would say is nearly as fast as the normal charger. one akku pack is enough for about 2 charges. if you are on a journey and not able to charge the akkus you can buy normal batteries. they give about 1 charge.
i have experiences with other chargers and phones and i would say this thing works really good because the usb-port of the charger turns off when batteries haven't enough voltage. this prevents your x10 battery from damage because wrong charging.
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Despite all the tricks to help preserve battery, I still find the performance of y standard 930 mAh battery very bad. Is there an extended (reliabl) battery for rhis phone and where can I get it?
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My x10a mini pro came with 970 mAh battery, not 930. Battery life is about a day and 1/2. I use USB car charger in the car on needed basis only. Hopefully USB car charger doesn't fry the battery.
Hi fellow l9'ers
I purchased an OEM battery to have as a spare battery since I'm usually out of battery when I most need it but forget to bring it or charge it. After having so-so experiences with aftermarket extended batteries on other phones I decided that if I wanted good results on the cheap I need to make it myself. Still testing it out but initial impressions are good.
BTW.. yes it looks horrendous and I do know that it could blow up, ruin my phone, cause cancer and start WW3.... but thanks for your concern.
Source of inspiration. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800177&highlight=battery+mod
9/4/13 Update.... after using it on a daily basis and swiping back and forth between the oem battery and my jerry-rigged battery I can say its definitely working. The performance has gotten constant and I did a battery drain comparison between the 2 using the app called FAST DISCHARGE. All option selected and cpu set to full load with temp set to unlimited. I did remove two of the jumpers and only left positive and negative connected.
OEM BATTERY........... 2hr 5min 13 sec
JERRY-RIGGED BATT..........3hr 35min 21sec
I suspect that it doesn't last double since both circuits are being powered when charged...... the first battery to be fully charged send a signal to the charger to shut off hence the lack of full power.
Over all for $10 bucks I'm not complaining.
How does the battery stay in place? double side tape?
Also, what is the battery life on this uhmmmm... phone?
How is it?
I am very interested in trying this if your results are good...How has your battery life been affected? Has it doubled? Do you use a case that works with the new "power bulge"?
I did that to my old i897 captivate. you only need the positive and negative connected. you're connecting the two circuit boards together which may cause problems. i would remove that one. Unless you can find a battery charger that supplies more amperage you most likely will never get that battery fully charged no matter what the android meter says.
Ok, after a few days of heavy usage I have come across sporadic performance results. In a few occasions it would out last the original battery under the same usage and other times it would perform as a stock battery. I plan on purchasing an external charger since I suspect that both batteries are not fully being charged as the previous post mentions. I will also disassemble the second battery and take the circuit out of the equation. So far I am pleased with it's performance even though it's not consistent.
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Ok, after a few days of heavy usage I have come across sporadic performance results. In a few occasions it would out last the original battery under the same usage and other times it would perform as a stock battery. I plan on purchasing an external charger since I suspect that both batteries are not fully being charged as the previous post mentions. I will also disassemble the second battery and take the circuit out of the equation. So far I am pleased with it's performance even though it's not consistent.
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Cool. i work in batteries so i didnt check out dudes guide other than his soldering was good lol. essentially all you're doing is connecting the batteries in parallel. since both batteries have a circuit board that controls low voltage and temperature safety, you only need to use one as the battery will still be a 3.6v cell just double the capacity. stock LG charger shipped w/ L9 outputs .85 amps so if you could find one that did 1.5amps or 1500mah you'd be in good shape.
Like @Meda808 said,you only need to connect two pins... + and -.You will also need stronger charger but... There is a circuit in a phone which controls power to battery(I think that that's why is one of the two middle contacts on battery) so... Maybe with external charger?
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Well, good feature, but on the other hand smartphone becomes fat, and if I look on way I use my phone, I won't do DIY like this.
That looks interesting, but I wouldn't be able to get over the hump.
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Small update......
So far so good, no major issues. I purchased the anker standalone charger and it charges the battery but it takes way to long(10-15hrs) So I just charge it in the phone now. The battery lasts me a full day under heavy heavy usage. Prior to this by 2-3pm it was out of juice.
I have noticed that it has become less sporadic the more I use it.
Iheartradio 4-6hrs a day, dish anywhere 2-3hrs a day, calls:30-1hr. This is with WiF(thanks Home Depot), data and Bluetooth(LG Tone)on for most of the day.../.. I'm happy I did it.
I unplug at 4:45am and plug it in by 8-9pm with about 20-30% left.
I have not modified the connection yet so I suspect that it still might not be fully charged even with the aftermarket charger.
About the hump..... I got use to it quiker than I thought.
hahaha ill give ya props for ingenuity
9/4/13 Update.... after using it on a daily basis and swiping back and forth between the oem battery and my jerry-rigged battery I can say its definitely working. The performance has gotten constant and I did a battery drain comparison between the 2 using the app called FAST DISCHARGE. All option selected and cpu set to full load with temp set to unlimited. I did remove two of the jumpers and only left positive and negative connected.
OEM BATTERY........... 2hr 5min 13 sec
JERRY-RIGGED BATT..........3hr 35min 21sec
I suspect that it doesn't last double since both circuits are being powered when charged...... the first battery to be fully charged send a signal to the charger to shut off hence the lack of full power.
Over all for $10 bucks I'm not complaining.