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How are people buying new phones from Tmo when they are still on contract? I've seen users posting about how they were on contract and just bought the G2x. Im tired of my vibrant as of late and I want to know how are people getting early upgrades. Is tmobile just letting people upgrade early? Thanks.
They might be just selling their vibrants and buying them outright. When I got my vibrant on launchday I had to call tmobile and start a new 2 year contract to get the discount.
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Most people I think just buy the phone at full price. Because while in contract you are able to buy any phone you want, because the contract isnt for the phone its self but for the service.
So, in theory you could buy the newest phone from Tmobile every month and not break your contract.
Note: Only do the theory above if you are rich and have nothing better to do with your money.
buying any upgrade usually means you will end up with a different contract no matter what they say, also upgrading usually is not a good, better to just but the phone it is always cheaper in the long run
i bought my vibrant at full price. i will buy my next phone full price. i'm on a no contract plan (which is cheaper than the contract plans), and haven't had a contract with tmob for the last 3 or 4 years. as it stands right now, though, i'm not looking to replace the vibrant for probably 6 months or so. the current phones coming out don't really have any large technological jumps or must have features so far.
what's the price difference between a contract and a non-contract?
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I would say, this is very hard to find a better phone than samsung vibrant. Because this phone on 2nd hand market is very frisky. You can get it very low price. The specs is not bad. I feel good with the process speed. I bought htc desire hd after samsung vibrant, but I sold it and buy vibrant back.
are we talking plan to no plan or phone with contract price to phone with out?
phone with out contract price is substantially higher circa 500 while on contract as low as 100 for a good phone. however even if you were to get the 500 dollar phone for free you would still pay more over the course of teh contract than the person off contract who purchased the phone at face value.
I used some tax return skrilla to get away from my Vibrant - G2x in da house!
-bZj
I'm surprised a lot of you went to G2x. Considering LG's history of cra handsets, and an AOSP stock ROM withOUT the backing of google. This, to me, seems like a good way to find yourself with a phone that has a lot of potential, but not a lot available in the modification department (though being with vibrant for awhile, I can see why some of you may not notice a difference) I'm holding out for a dual core HTC.
You can call customer service and ask them if you can have an upgrade. They always let me. They are more concerned with keeping you on their contacts. I sold my vibrant for the same price I bought my g2x. 260 with tax.
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what's the price difference between a contract and a non-contract?
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it looks like, for my plan, it's $30/month cheaper for my two lines.
Buying full price is the way to go
As has been stated before. Buying a phone full-price with T-Mobile is the only way to go.
Now, I myself got a 2-year contract when I bought my Vibrant, but immediately started regretting it. I found out that the required internet service was $35/month (I negotiated them down to $25/month on account of I Just bought my wife a Motorola Cliq the month before, and I refused to pay an additional $10/month for no reason).
The fact is, if I had added 3g to my plan before buying a syndicated phone, it would have cost only $10/month.
In addition to this, any time you "upgrade" your phone with a new contract, they Upgrade your contract.For this reason, now and in the future, I will never again buy a contract phone so that my contract stays at the nice, comfortable place it is at.
I love T-mobile, and hope beyond all hope that this merger with AT&T stays as copacetic as they claim it will be
-Tex.
Yup, I was looking at getting a sidekick for my girl, but it was gonna take her from 66/mo off contract to around 95ish to upgrade.
I'm waiting for the sgs2, bring on the samoled!
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There's a relatively good chance I'll just sell my vibrant and buy a gs2 when it comes out, depending on how crazy expensive it might be.
OK here's the deal. I am currently phone-less being I sold my GS2 in wake of the note. Now I have two upgrades due in May. My GF also wants a Note and she said she is more than happy with waiting. Me, I tried but I can't lol. Being smart phone less sucks. Not fun bringing my new Transformer Prime around and hoping for wif lol. So here are my options.
One of the upgrades is deff going to my GF. So that leaves one. I figured I could buy the note today for $650 and instead if paying early upgrade price of $550 saving my May upgrade for future phones like a SG3 or whatever. Or better yet I could buy a Note for $300 "full upgrade price" in May and eBay it and make some profit. I have went to all local ATT stores asking to upgrade early, but no go. Even tried customer service. Last year I got my GF a iPhone 4 early 30 days early, but they say they are much more strict now.
Basically should I just pay the retail of $650 and pocket my upgrade for the future? Or pay $550 and extend ans save $100, which seems silly.
I already told my GF I'd sacrifice my PS Vita if I was able to get the Note. I'm dying g to get one!
I also know $650 seems expensive. But I look at it as a investment. Being I would be able to sell it down the road if needed or wanted for at least 60% of my money back. And I'm not signing a contract extension. And I believe not having to pay the $36 new activation fee.
Thanks, I've been reading these forums all day yesterday. So ready for my Note!
Go to best buy they will price match at$t and you get rewards zone points, if you're a silver member they even have a 3x points coupon out now that's good through today.. 650 would get you 1950 points with coupon, equals almost 40 back in reward zone certificate.
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Very good point. I am a silver premier member. Thanks for the double points heads up.
I just ordered it from gosale.com for $149. I added a line and am selling my skyrocket. With the money from the skyrocket, i'm paying the cancellation fee. I gotta wait for after 30 days of course but who cares. I'll be getting my note on Wednesday. http://www.gosale.com/5792771/samsung-galaxy-note-4g?gclid=CMDc883cu64CFQxX7AodSkcwNQ
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I just ordered it from gosale.com for $149. I added a line and am selling my skyrocket. With the money from the skyrocket, i'm paying the cancellation fee. I gotta wait for after 30 days of course but who cares. I'll be getting my note on Wednesday. http://www.gosale.com/5792771/samsung-galaxy-note-4g?gclid=CMDc883cu64CFQxX7AodSkcwNQ
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Damn that's a good deal. I'd be all for that if I wasn't at 5 lines already in our family plan. 150 is a steal for the note! Lucky you
Exactly. I just went to google and typed in Samsung Note for sale in US and that link came up. I thought it was bs but the live chat lady actually said its a great deal and she'd walk me through it to ensure I get the $150 discount. Can't wait. Bye-Bye Skyrocket.
Man I'm always missing the great deals! Maybe I should see if I can return my note and get this deal!
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Man I'm always missing the great deals! Maybe I should see if I can return my note and get this deal!
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It's still up there. I mean $150 is still $150. That's beer money, game money, etc.
I paid full price. Gonna get another new one in June when get full upgrade and give this one to the wife. By that time might be free upgrade. Then I can sell the international I just handed down to her.
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Same here. I just got home and I got mine! Super happy, we had to stop at the grocery store and I was bumping into people playing with it lol.
I paid full price, gonna get my gf hers in may. And then save my other upgrade in case the galaxy s3 intrigues me. But I can't see it getting much better than the note, very happy with it thus far.
I just purchased mine for 150... I will try at&t service and determine if i will keep it.. If I decide i don't like it I will cancel my service and buy out my contract... 325... That's a total of 475 for the phone itself... Now that's a deal compared to paying 650...
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I just purchased mine for 150... I will try at&t service and determine if i will keep it.. If I decide i don't like it I will cancel my service and buy out my contract... 325... That's a total of 475 for the phone itself... Now that's a deal compared to paying 650...
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I hear ya man, today was the first time I laid out full price for a device. I usually go full upgrade or early I must really love the phone
But in my case my other two lines are due for upgrade in may so my gf gets one. And the other I can save for a future "me" device . Or get a note and sell it for $600 on the bay with my upgrade. Thus means I got mine for $300.
We utilize 3-4 of our lines between me and my gf. Id like to drop one off as well and save the $10 a month.The other we give to her parents in the mid west. Otherwise I would have done the $150 deal.
The ATT reps were totally unaware of the 50% off deal too, go figure lol.
Of course they were. They don't know of any of the deals I ask about.
Pay full price. I've been selling almost 10 $500 per Note in Craigslist. Only $100 more from early upgrade
Maybe try another store I just bought a phone back in November when I signed up for At&t. I called the store and said I wanted to buy the phone outright and the guy said why do that when you can do and early upgrade because they were not able to sell the phone off contract at the time. Do you live on Los Angeles? The store I go to is really customer focused.
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I paid $375
I just purchased one for $375, because my contract wasn't up until 08/12, so I had to do what they call an "exceptional upgrade". $300 for the phone and $75 for the early upgrade. I did it at one of those authorized AT&T stores, looks like the real store but they have their own price for early upgrades , compared to AT&T with their $175-250 fee. And now I see that premiere customers are eligible for 50% discount so I'll be calling them in the morning to try and get some kind of credit. Even though I really didn't spend any money because I sold my Skyrocket for $400!
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Pay full price. I've been selling almost 10 $500 per Note in Craigslist. Only $100 more from early upgrade
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sell me one lol
I'll be buying mine outright. $100 difference between outright and extending my contract and losing out on my scheduled upgrade in July? Kind of a no-brainer.
I did an early upgrade and was expecting to pay $550. It rang up at $500. The rep didn't know why. My upgrade wasn't due until March of '13.
After they changed the way discounts are applied in Feb, my bill went up $5.
I called them today to complain. They offered me $80 to add on a year to the contract, which would not affect the upgrade I have sitting around on my primary line.
Mathematically, $5 increase for a year is $60, so $80 makes up for it.
Thoughts?
EDIT: I'm in a well covered 4G area, and planning on picking up (assuming it happens) the Evo ONE X phone we think is coming with my upgrade. No other upgrades on my account besides that one.
Nah, you'll end up spending more as your locked in longer.
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After they changed the way discounts are applied in Feb, my bill went up $5.
I called them today to complain. They offered me $80 to add on a year to the contract, which would not affect the upgrade I have sitting around on my primary line.
Mathematically, $5 increase for a year is $60, so $80 makes up for it.
Thoughts?
EDIT: I'm in a well covered 4G area, and planning on picking up (assuming it happens) the Evo ONE X phone we think is coming with my upgrade. No other upgrades on my account besides that one.
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As long at it doesn't mess with your upgrade date, no reason not to like it.
If you don't plan on leaving sprint anytime soon then do it. I always jump on those offers when they come along because i am perfectly happy with sprint and don't plan on switching anytime soon.
Good luck.
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Yeah I take that deal, unless I plan on leaving. One year, and it shouldn't screw with your upgrade at all...If you're staying, it's free money.
For what its worth, they offered the same thing to me, but @$100
Idk if they have a formula based on your monthly bill or what, but maybe you can get them to do that?
I had the same issue a while ago and got 120.00 been with sprint like 18 years
Is your contract up???
If you have say 6 months left on your contract, plus you tack on a year, then you will be paying 5 a month for 18 months. This would equal 90 dollars. I don't know where you are in your contract, but I just wanted to point it out to make sure that you take this into account.
Has anyone else noticed that AT&T has this phone listed as $440, if purchased off contract, but if you purchase via AT&T Next, it can be had for $340 and you get to pay over 20 months with no interest?
Seems like anyone who is paying for AT&T insurance, with its $200 deductible, should cancel immediately.
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Has anyone else noticed that AT&T has this phone listed as $440, if purchased off contract, but if you purchase via AT&T Next, it can be had for $340 and you get to pay over 20 months with no interest?
Seems like anyone who is paying for AT&T insurance, with its $200 deductible, should cancel immediately.
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Read this article http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff . But to break it down AT&T next just rips you off. You are better off paying full price for the phone. This is what I do, I take a subsidized phone one year than the next year buy off contract. In the end if you do the math it is more economical to use this approach. You should remember when you sign an AT&T contract they assume that you bought a premium smart phone and the subsidy is already built into your account. If you do not upgrade your phone every two years your paying extra, hence why some people like the t-mobile model because it separates the phone cost from the bill. This makes their business practices more transparent, not necessarily better.
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Read this article http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff . But to break it down AT&T next just rips you off. You are better off paying full price for the phone. This is what I do, I take a subsidized phone one year than the next year buy off contract. In the end if you do the math it is more economical to use this approach. You should remember when you sign an AT&T contract they assume that you bought a premium smart phone and the subsidy is already built into your account. If you do not upgrade your phone every two years your paying extra, hence why some people like the t-mobile model because it separates the phone cost from the bill. This makes their business practices more transparent, not necessarily better.
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Don't even need to read that article to know that AT&T Next is a rip off, for almost every phone offered. The $100 gap in pricing between list price and making the 20 payments (or you can just pay $340 up front), makes the LGOG a different issue all together. If you are paying $10/mth for AT&T insurance, which has a $200 deductible, at $14 months, you hit break even, between buying a new LGOG or getting a refurb replacement under the warranty plan. In this one case, it would be a financially sound idea, to simply plan to buy the LGOG for $340, instead of doing the warranty (if you damage your phone). Note that the price makes it cheaper than the 16GB N4, also (and you get LTE and a removable/upgrade able simcard).
I totally agree att next is a rip off
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I totally agree att next is a rip off
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It's worse than I anticipated. I checked with and AT&T rep (was considering buying a new phone for my daughter) and was told that I couldn't buy via AT&T Next because I didn't have an available upgrade. I asked about contract renewal and was told that each purchase via the plan required a renewed 2 yr agreement. No where in the on line documentation does it state that you must have an available upgrade, for the initial purchase and you must renew your 2 yr commitment, for each upgrade (it's clearly stated in the regular upgrade info). The rep just said "it's in there somewhere".
Actually ditched my LG OG today and signed up for AT&T Next (opened a line on my family plan). Picked up the HTC One, and couldn't be happier. Currently converting it to the Google Play Dev. Edition (international).
Can't wait to have a real solid stable Nexus-equivalent ROM on a beautiful piece of hardware. I was just beginning to love the OG too, but I was forced to stay with stock ROM due to how many phone calls (30+) I receive/make daily for work. The lurking modem issues on ROM's other than stock just made it super impractical.
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Actually ditched my LG OG today and signed up for AT&T Next (opened a line on my family plan). Picked up the HTC One, and couldn't be happier. Currently converting it to the Google Play Dev. Edition (international).
Can't wait to have a real solid stable Nexus-equivalent ROM on a beautiful piece of hardware. I was just beginning to love the OG too, but I was forced to stay with stock ROM due to how many phone calls (30+) I receive/make daily for work. The lurking modem issues on ROM's other than stock just made it super impractical.
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Most realistic post yet. I love ROMs too but i keep going back to stock as well, nothing like not having to worry about your phone randomly rebooting.
Due for an upgrade. Looking at the G2 and Note 3 when my local ATT store has it stocked! ampeeeddd
I just looked into it to upgrade my finace to a S4 and they said not only do you have to pay the full device price(spread out over 24 months) but then you have to trade in your "old" device and get nothing in return? WTF. If I'm going to give you a device you are going to give me some money for it. Not to mention, other carriers knock off money on your bill for paying for your own phone, but not VZW. Geez. This company makes me wonder more and more why I am with them.
Sorry to vent, I just can't believe what they charge for. And I have been a customer since 2005.
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I just looked into it to upgrade my finace to a S4 and they said not only do you have to pay the full device price(spread out over 24 months) but then you have to trade in your "old" device and get nothing in return? WTF. If I'm going to give you a device you are going to give me some money for it. Not to mention, other carriers knock off money on your bill for paying for your own phone, but not VZW. Geez. This company makes me wonder more and more why I am with them.
Sorry to vent, I just can't believe what they charge for. And I have been a customer since 2005.
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You are only forced to trade the old device in if you haven't paid the full price for it. With Edge, you're eligible for an upgrade every 6 months (providing that 50% of the device's retail price has been paid). If you keep the phone for 24 months (or pay it off early), you're able to keep the phone when you get a new device.
I think what they're looking at is more of a phone rental system. You pay monthly for the phone until it's half paid, and then trade it in for a new phone. It pretty much looks like a car lease.
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You are only forced to trade the old device in if you haven't paid the full price for it. With Edge, you're eligible for an upgrade every 6 months (providing that 50% of the device's retail price has been paid). If you keep the phone for 24 months (or pay it off early), you're able to keep the phone when you get a new device.
I think what they're looking at is more of a phone rental system. You pay monthly for the phone until it's half paid, and then trade it in for a new phone. It pretty much looks like a car lease.
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Pretty much sums it up accurately. For the most part the consumers have been the ones driving this trend fighting tooth and nail over the early termination fees and 2 year contracts.
Good job explaining it.:highfive:
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You are only forced to trade the old device in if you haven't paid the full price for it. With Edge, you're eligible for an upgrade every 6 months (providing that 50% of the device's retail price has been paid). If you keep the phone for 24 months (or pay it off early), you're able to keep the phone when you get a new device.
I think what they're looking at is more of a phone rental system. You pay monthly for the phone until it's half paid, and then trade it in for a new phone. It pretty much looks like a car lease.
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Well then the CS rep I talked to yesterday doesn't know crap. Not surprising, but still. The we have about 8 months left on her contract for her driod 4, and she said for me to take advantage of the "edge" program I would have to trade that device in and pay my monthly installments for the S4. I would consider upgrading her early but the battery has taken a crap and I don't trust vzws return warehouse to not screw up again. So I was just going to use edge for her. But I'm not giving them a free device that I agreed to a two year contract over. I would rather just pay cash for the device than do that. So I guess they don't train their people for crap anymore.
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Pretty much sums it up accurately. For the most part the consumers have been the ones driving this trend fighting tooth and nail over the early termination fees and 2 year contracts.
Good job explaining it.:highfive:
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Huh? I'm fine with a contract. I'm also fine paying full price. But if I am going to pay full price for the device I should get an extra discount like what tmo gives. If that is where you are going with the comment. I'm not sure 100% what you're getting at.
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You are only forced to trade the old device in if you haven't paid the full price for it. With Edge, you're eligible for an upgrade every 6 months (providing that 50% of the device's retail price has been paid). If you keep the phone for 24 months (or pay it off early), you're able to keep the phone when you get a new device.
I think what they're looking at is more of a phone rental system. You pay monthly for the phone until it's half paid, and then trade it in for a new phone. It pretty much looks like a car lease.
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Huh? I'm fine with a contract. I'm also fine paying full price. But if I am going to pay full price for the device I should get an extra discount like what tmo gives. If that is where you are going with the comment. I'm not sure 100% what you're getting at.
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Sorry: To clarify, when you sign up for service you sign a two year contract, but at the end of those two years, unless you pay full price for a phone, you will be signing another two year agreement. At this point the carriers are acknowledging that users want phones more often than two years but two not want to pay full price. So in a sense you can know rent you phone and get a new one once you have paid ~50% of the full cost, however long that takes you (so long as it is more than 6 months).
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Sorry: To clarify, when you sign up for service you sign a two year contract, but at the end of those two years, unless you pay full price for a phone, you will be signing another two year agreement. At this point the carriers are acknowledging that users want phones more often than two years but two not want to pay full price. So in a sense you can know rent you phone and get a new one once you have paid ~50% of the full cost, however long that takes you (so long as it is more than 6 months).
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Oh, I see more of what you are getting at now. Sorry, I'm sometimes a little slow.
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A little caviar the rep might not have told you: you have to be OUT of contract to begin with to start edge
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A little caviar the rep might not have told you: you have to be OUT of contract to begin with to start edge
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Nope, she didn't. Thanks for the heads up.
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