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Hello everyone,
I've been striving looking for a rom that works fine on the P4 but no luck so far.
I want to get rid once for all of the TouchWiz stockrom which is slow as hell and makes me want to throw the tablet against the wall. I've been flashing CM and few others but they are all quite buggy and made me want to go back to TouchWiz and hence increase my frustration.
Which is in your experience the best alternative to TouchWiz? I need something stable, fast, and that works!
Thanks
Davide
Have you been trying using latest kitkats? It looks like they made to work much smoother then ever before.
Currently there are 3 competitive kitkat roms. I think that nameless is fastest and most stripped out. Though there are some bugs, in my experience most custom roms were smoother and more stable than even ICS stock rom for about half a year
You can also look at this list of proprietary launchers: ru wikipedia org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BA_Android
Hey, I am searching for the best rom for my galaxy s3, I want android 5.0, I have used a lot of roms but I want good battery life and the most roms doesn't have that. Does anyone know a good rom with good battery life and that is fast and smooth? Thanks for help. or maybe anyone can help me with the battery problem, I have used a lot of tutorials on youtube about it but nothing seems to be working.
Sorry for my bad English btw
Ressurection Remix + Boeffla Kernel CM12 NG
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Try BlissPop, this is best room ever
Always keep this in mind:
Stock Samsung ROMs
Pros:
Stable!
Better Camera support
Better Bluetooth, WiFi Direct and AllShare support
Much much more battery friendly than AOSP based ROMs
Cons:
No updates (last Android version 4.3)
Worse performance compared to a "Properly" tweaked AOSP ROM
AOSP ROMs
Pros:
Latest Updates
Responsive and has a great performance (I repeat only on "Properly" tweaked ROMs)
More useful features than stock Samsung based ROMs
Cons
Camera not as good as on stock Samsung based ROMs
Samsung features won't work on AOSP based ROMs
Worse battery
This should give you a general idea on the differences between the two.
There's nothing as a BEST ROM! Every ROM works differently for every user since each user has different uses for the phone.
Hi guys, I'm searching for a rom which works great with games, any ideas?
No one is going to answer you because of the rules. I'm trying to find it to for the last six months. In my opinion is best if you have some knowledge if you don't you will have to read for a while, to use you latest stock rom. But you will have to deodex it, zipallighn it, apply the modes you like from other rom if there are some and remove the bloatwear not all just the one that is safe to remove and you don't need. And perhaps replace touchwiz with nova launcher. It's just that here are very sensitive on questions about best rom. For the past six months I've downloaded a lot of roms and after a while having problems with all of them- here I mean problems with playing games. And till now the best experience I had was with stock rom but then I was missing some futures, mods from others. So only solution as I don't wanna search for another 6 monts is make my own. By the way the qiestion is not which is the best rom but which is the best for games or in other words on which rom I'll have no or less problems but stil for here is like you ask which is the best.
So make your own rom deodex and zipallighn for speed, remove the app you don't need because most of the bloatwear has running processes all the time so you can have more free ram and then if you want some extra mods.
I hope this is helpful although it mean you have a lot to read if you are new at that.
As previously stated, stock roms are the best all rounders and in my opinion much better than custom roms hands down.
As soon as you root a samsung you can expect performance issues. Had the same problem on all 3 samsung devices I've owned. This led me to not touch my htc m9 at all as far as mods go..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
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No one is going to answer you because of the rules. I'm trying to find it to for the last six months. In my opinion is best if you have some knowledge if you don't you will have to read for a while, to use you latest stock rom. But you will have to deodex it, zipallighn it, apply the modes you like from other rom if there are some and remove the bloatwear not all just the one that is safe to remove and you don't need. And perhaps replace touchwiz with nova launcher. It's just that here are very sensitive on questions about best rom. For the past six months I've downloaded a lot of roms and after a while having problems with all of them- here I mean problems with playing games. And till now the best experience I had was with stock rom but then I was missing some futures, mods from others. So only solution as I don't wanna search for another 6 monts is make my own. By the way the qiestion is not which is the best rom but which is the best for games or in other words on which rom I'll have no or less problems but stil for here is like you ask which is the best.
So make your own rom deodex and zipallighn for speed, remove the app you don't need because most of the bloatwear has running processes all the time so you can have more free ram and then if you want some extra mods.
I hope this is helpful although it mean you have a lot to read if you are new at that.
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Thanks for an answer.
I've used a lot of roms too, I've been changing them every week and I'm really enjoying ArchiDroid with android 5.1.1. I'm definitely going to try installing latest stock and doing what you told me to, I never liked stocks though.
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As previously stated, stock roms are the best all rounders and in my opinion much better than custom roms hands down.
As soon as you root a samsung you can expect performance issues. Had the same problem on all 3 samsung devices I've owned. This led me to not touch my htc m9 at all as far as mods go..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
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I can't live without root, I'm using a lot of tweaks and rooted apps. Stock roms were always laggy and slow for me, maybe I just can't use them properly.
Stock ROMs are laggy on legacy devices.
New devices works perfectly good on Stock ROMs. This is why they have lesser Custom ROMs and older devices still has some ongoing developments.
I've never had any performance issue after rooting my Sonys and Samsungs. I always had better performance and recommend custom ROMs because they work better for me. Please bear in mind that my latest device is the S3 which has 1GB RAM while other new phones are going 4GB so my opinion only stops here : On old devices. On new devices , I've played with my friends Note 3 alot and we reached a conclusion that it works flawless even on Stock ROM.
For a gaming ROM , I would suggest ArchiDroid if you are going CM. Latest Archidroid Lollipop works flawlessly for me (Even while using Chrome with 11 Tabs. No lags and reloads while switching tabs). Runs NFS:Most Wanted , Cyrus and alot other major games that I've tested run on full FPS without a single lag. However , Hearthstone will never work good on S3 even on this magnificent ROM. Go for Archidroid for both KitKat and Lollipop if you want Performance. Go for Temasek (Darkened's build) if you want balanced Performance , customization and slightly better Battery life. Other ROMs work too , they may have more customization (Blisspop) etc but I did not list them because they are too heavy for a Gaming ROM In my opinion. AOKP KitKat is also a fair choice to go for.
For Touchwiz Based ROMs, I would say LukeROM. Install without Bloat and enjoy a smooth ROM even on stock kernel and no Greenify. NFS:Most Wanted , Cytus and other major games that I've tested also runs on full FPS without lag. It also has stock Camera and Note 4 Multiwindow that allow floating app like Messenger Chat Head. However , Chrome makes this ROM die on stock kernel. 4 or 5 tabs and it starts reloading when switching tabs. NeatROM Lite is also a good choice if you're fine with Android 4.3 and a Bluetooth Bug where NFC gets turn on too when you connect to a Bluetooth device. (Might be device specific bug since I don't see a lot of comments about that bug). Blekota's S5 Lite ROM with Boeffla kernel and Speed Mod also works flawless. Check my post on that thread for tutorial.(Posted few months back)
These are my personal experience with various ROMs for I9300. I've flashed almost every ROM that came to XDA and a few other Chinese forums since January 2014 and these are my conclusions. Please bear in mind that the same ROM might perform differently for different users with different usage and settings. Have a nice day
@conanDO98 Thanks for an answer, you just put everything in a whole new light to me. I'm on Luke's rom for like an hour now, it works great. But i do have a question, you said "no greenify", may I ask why? I always thought it's good for performance.
I have 550 free ram running cm 12(gaaps pico installed)now looking for a custom kernel to overclock...can u sugest me one?
@nolitooo When I was on cm12 I was using an ArchiKernel, it worked great. There's always boeffla kernel, with boeffla config app, try them both and pick your best
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@conanDO98 Thanks for an answer, you just put everything in a whole new light to me. I'm on Luke's rom for like an hour now, it works great. But i do have a question, you said "no greenify", may I ask why? I always thought it's good for performance.
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I'm sorry. By no greenify I mean I did not install Greenify on that ROM.
I suggest flashing Boeffla 7.9 on Luke ROM because after flashing I find the ROM smoother and Chrome works better
@conanDO98 I'm gonna flash it now and see how it works
I've tried archdroid it's not that it wasn't good just searching for better. I play a lot call of duty heroes which is laggy with all the roms i've tried so far but with most of them after a few days the game starts to crash, to close by itself but I don't need a rom that I need to restart every few hours or every day.
I'll try Luke Rom in a few days and will see if it's better. I guess that part of the problem is that most of the time I have installed around 80 apps by me. Some games, for alarm, calculator, apps like facebook, line, soundhound, xposed with some mods and others.
About the kernel I like boeffla with his options but for some reason I have less apps closing by itself with stock.
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I've tried archdroid it's not that it wasn't good just searching for better. I play a lot call of duty heroes which is laggy with all the roms i've tried so far but with most of them after a few days the game starts to crash, to close by itself but I don't need a rom that I need to restart every few hours or every day.
I'll try Luke Rom in a few days and will see if it's better. I guess that part of the problem is that most of the time I have installed around 80 apps by me. Some games, for alarm, calculator, apps like facebook, line, soundhound, xposed with some mods and others.
About the kernel I like boeffla with his options but for some reason I have less apps closing by itself with stock.
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I think stock roms are better for gaming, I play a lot of games, I was using cm12.1 and archidroid for few months and gaming was nice, but not what I was looking for. Now I'm on Luke ROM with boeffla 7.9 and gaming is so much better then on lollipop. I haven't played CoD Heroes though.
I did try the Luke rom but after a few days had some problems with some games, back on stock and all perfect. Now just have to download some tools and have free time and will deodex and zipaligh it. And some other mods if I find some good.
MichAzer said:
I think stock roms are better for gaming, I play a lot of games, I was using cm12.1 and archidroid for few months and gaming was nice, but not what I was looking for. Now I'm on Luke ROM with boeffla 7.9 and gaming is so much better then on lollipop. I haven't played CoD Heroes though.
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What's a good rom to play garena free on galaxy s3 T mobile (d2tmo)?
Are there currently oxygen os based roms available, or are developers working on these particular rom?
I see a lot of ported roms and cm based roms. The devices I used to have, would usually have a custom stock rom available. In which the stock rom would be more smooth and efficient. I personally like oos, I don't notice any bugs etc. But if it could be even better and efficient, it would be great.
Anyone knows if this is a work in progress?
++ I would appreciate this too, instead of spending time on something that takes time and energy why not optimize an already good stable product? I have very basic knowledge about how to make/cook/modify android system so I dont think im able to start a project by my self but i can give my time and phone for tests ^_^
p.s. something like arhd for htc devices, they do very good job indeed
Hydrogen fitd the bill for most. Might as well take it and modify it for yourself. I don't see an Oxygen based ROM as its already pretty minimal
I hope someone develop an oos based rom too.... with full Layers theme support...
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++ I would appreciate this too, instead of spending time on something that takes time and energy why not optimize an already good stable product? I have very basic knowledge about how to make/cook/modify android system so I dont think im able to start a project by my self but i can give my time and phone for tests ^_^
p.s. something like arhd for htc devices, they do very good job indeed
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Yes indeed something like arhd or sensation rom and other sort optimized stock rom. @RJDTWO It isn't just minimalising and debloating by app removal. It's more something like stock root and busybox, deodexed, gpu rendering, zip aligned, ext4, init.d permissions, ram speed and mounting tweaks etc.
Perhaps I will work on it, with a bit of study and spare time
Somebody or Anybody ???
I just bought an OPX second-hand from selling my titan . Is there any rom based on stock like the TurboROM for titan by @Vidhanth ??
mOOS is based on OOS just do a search for it in the forums
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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There are a lots of benefits of using custom ROM over stock one. Currently I'm using Resurrection Remix 5.8.3 on my rn4. It's fully stable. You can try it yourself.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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For best stability bro, go forward non other than MIUI
Clearly, MIUI are made only for Mi phones, designed to be well..perfectly stable. Now others might against this lol.
Custom roms are stable too, yet miui are far more than that.
Honestly, I see no benefits using stock MIUI against stock rom (or vice versa).
They're just practically the same, only differ in some minimal undistinguishable matters.
Moreover, it the end, just a personal cup of tea.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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bro i have tried ressurection remix, lineage os. Only benefit i see in using custom rom is slightly better performance than miui(and that also you will realise after playing very heavy games otherwise it is ignorable), in terms of features manual customisation is more in custom rom(most in ressurection remix)but I still very much prefer customisation through themes in miui(because i am an anime fan and are tons of attractive anime themes in chinese miui theme store). in terms of stability and battery life i didn't nltice much change(maybe slightly better bettery life in custom rom). But overall i greatly prefer miui because it has much more user friendly feachures than custom rom(which you will soon realise after using custom rom) and because of its attractive themes(mostly anime based).
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bro i have tried ressurection remix, lineage os. Only benefit i see in using custom rom is slightly better performance than miui(and that also you will realise after playing very heavy games otherwise it is ignorable), in terms of features manual customisation is more in custom rom(most in ressurection remix)but I still very much prefer customisation through themes in miui(because i am an anime fan and are tons of attractive anime themes in chinese miui theme store). in terms of stability and battery life i didn't nltice much change(maybe slightly better bettery life in custom rom). But overall i greatly prefer miui because it has much more user friendly feachures than custom rom(which you will soon realise after using custom rom) and because of its attractive themes(mostly anime based).
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It's really nice do read someone opinion based on experience with custom ROMs. I bet that battery performance on custom ROM with custom kernel should be better but in that case...
I'm currenty running beta MIUI 9 and I really enjoy system because I migrated from iOS and if there is no point to move to custom ROM I am fine with it.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
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I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
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@Boomshiva you said "better memory management". I 'm trying RR rom but I don't see any difference (In the best case 1.841 MB available on my 4GB Ram memory). What kernel could we use?
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@Boomshiva you said "better memory management". I 'm trying RR rom but I don't see any difference (In the best case 1.841 MB available on my 4GB Ram memory). What kernel could we use?
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By better management i mean the multi tasking part . Apps remains in memory . But miui is very aggressive when it comes to memory .
And why do you care for ram ? Free ram is a waste ram . You should care if you phone struggles with common apps . And you know right android is smart enough to handle this memory thing thank you
Custom roms can give you more space and possibilities
Boomshiva said:
I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
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What custom ROM and kernel suits best for normal daily use - I mean internet + facebook/messenger only I think ?
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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MIUI works really well, there's no denying that. I installed xiaomi eu rom a little while back and it worked really well, smooth fast and battery back seemed good. Despite all that, MIUI feels very claustrophobic when you try to navigate through the phone. Notifications are a mess. Everything seems to be crammed into that notification shade.
Needless to say, my sojourn did not last long.
Custom roms give you the freedom to choose from a variety of customisations to stock to barebones. They are light, fast and easy to work with. Only drawback is that sometimes things break in custom roms. You need to have the willingness to work around it when that happens. And there will be bugs, known and unknown both.
Battery life should not be a concern unless there is an unprecedentedly high drainage. People get unusually high SOT by limiting usage to WiFi only and staying on 2G. But in real world, with 2 Sims, 1 LTE and other 3G, 6-7 hrs SOT seems like a good bet.
Performance is at par for all. Stability may be here and there for some roms. The more customisations there are, more are the chances for things to break. You can use less customisation roms, my recommendation would be slim, mainstage os & aosp-caf. For customisations, you can pick any of the rest.
Personally I use from among the three, mainstage being the most favorite. My experience has been that idle drain is really low in slim and mainstage. Rest you will have to use them to pick your go-to roms.
And yes, camera is not the best feature of custom roms. :laugh:
Thank you all, great discussion yes miui 8 is pretty cool in its own way, but i think i will explore more stock like android experience and then miui 9
gedggd said:
Thank you all, great discussion yes miui 8 is pretty cool in its own way, but i think i will explore more stock like android experience and then miui 9
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I think I should just add this point (whether it is a small or big point depends on your own perspective on your own privacy). The point is that one should be very careful about ROMs with embedded "dial home" features. Call me paranoid if you want, but, for me, this means that, for as long as there are good custom AOSP/LOS/CAF ROMs, MIUI is a non-starter.
For further information, read the "Skinny" threads on the Redmi Note 2 forums.
These devices are very competitively priced, and so are great buys - but the very first action should be to change the ROM from MIUI.
Miss those days when I was on the HTC Desire and @LeeDroid customized sense so much that it was perfect and very nice for those days.
I miss a good miui rom with stock notification icons and a working Google smartlock.
There are so much roms for mido but most of the roms is all of the same in performance and design.
We got now substratum but that is just layers not a redesign of some system apps. Like I mentioned before.
Why are there no more custom miui roms?
Is it not possible for developers to enable Google smart lock? Or change the statusbar stock notifications icons time right side?
What is the hold up here?
Yea we got xiaomi EU and few mods but nothing that spectacular.
BTW this is no offense to all those devs workings on mido I just asked myself and this is my first xiaomi phone and on HTC, Samsung roms they are modding the **** out of the stock roms.
TBH at the end of the day you will go and use stock ROM so am now out of flashing custom ROM it's now boring stuff! I rather prefer modified stock ROM like miglobe.com xiaomi.eu multirom.me and what ever and I would love to try paranoid ROM once it becomes official cause official has more features. And most important it has a OFFICIAL TAG which do matter. And taking about custom ROM all are same with a slight or little change in name and features every second nerd or geek wants to be a developer. Overall I can say that it depends upon your requirements to go or not to go. Personally if you hate miui I Mean the UI (I hate it too) than you should go with custom Rom and if you want something new and more scope of customisation. Else if you don't give a **** all you want is a phone for face book Twitter and Instagram and WhatsApp and pornhub.com then stock is for u
I have been using various custom roms on my phones for atleast 5 years. One the common hate items for custom ROM is the inferior battery backup when compared to stock ROM. My recent experience is on Asus Zenfone 2 Laser.
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
schlagg said:
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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Post of the day. :laugh:
schlagg said:
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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This is precisely why I have looked in this thread... fyi... I never intended to use miui cloud service, it was only when I got a message stating 6gb of my personal photos had been upoloaded and that I needed more space!!! like wtf
so, yes I want all miui gone.. but I really like the second space, dont want to lose that, and like has been said, ignoring the miui bit it is a nice bit of software
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With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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+1 from me