Snapdragon 810, 64bit? - Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is the Snapdragon 810 platform is 64bit and can 64bit apps and system apps be installed on the Z4?
I recently bought a Z4 Tablet LTE (loving it) and am on the process of unlocking the bootloader and getting a recovery and LineageOS flashed. Later, when installing 3rd party apps, SU and system apps such as GApps, should they be arm or arm64? My confusion arrives not just if its possible or not to install 64bit apps but also what are the benefit as far as compatibility, performance and (most importantly) stability are concerned.
Since the Z4 has only 3GB RAM and 64bit only come into play on environments with more than 4GB, I dont quite understand the advantages (if any) of having anything more than just traditional 32bit arm app versions .
Thanks a lot for the info

Yes, it's 64-bit.

dape16 said:
Yes, it's 64-bit.
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Thanks for the info. Should I only install arm64 versions of apps when available or its fine to also install standard 32bit arm apps?
Thanks again

You can only install 64-bit gapps, you will get an error message if you try to install gapps for 32-bit.

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HDX gpu drivers and android 6 ROMs

Hello,
I'm new here and I'd like to clarify one thing. I'd love to ditch the official os. The thing is, I've read somewhere that android 7 doesn't support andreno 330 due to lack of hardware support for openGL es 3.1. So I'd like to know if it's the same for Android 6? Will my gpu function properly? I just want to turn my hdx 7 into android tablet. I don't mind some minor glitches with bluetooth, etc, but I need to be able to install gp store and have the gpu work properly.
Gido77 said:
Hello,
I'm new here and I'd like to clarify one thing. I'd love to ditch the official os. The thing is, I've read somewhere that android 7 doesn't support andreno 330 due to lack of hardware support for openGL es 3.1. So I'd like to know if it's the same for Android 6? Will my gpu function properly? I just want to turn my hdx 7 into android tablet. I don't mind some minor glitches with bluetooth, etc, but I need to be able to install gp store and have the gpu work properly.
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Don't know what you read but it doesn't apply to this device as Android 7.1 is the primary custom ROM (4 variants). There is some prep involved before you can go that route including unlocking the bootloader. Got access to a Linux or OS X (Mac) environment? You can also unlock with a Windows host but the ride is none too fun.
Davey126 said:
Don't know what you read but it doesn't apply to this device as Android 7.1 is the primary custom ROM (4 variants). There is some prep involved before you can go that route including unlocking the bootloader. Got access to a Linux or OS X (Mac) environment? You can also unlock with a Windows host but the ride is none too fun.
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I've jus rooted my Thor 4.5.5.3. Yes, I have access to Mac running high sierra. I want to use this ROM, as it says the gpu's working:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ki...ment/rom-cm-13-kindle-hdx-2015-11-29-t3259732
I was reading this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/thor-4-5-5-2-easy-to-root-unlock-t3571240
So that one click unlock bootloader is the best way? Once I get it unlocked, can I flash a new ROM with twrp? I'm trying to find appropriate guide.
Gido77 said:
I've jus rooted my Thor 4.5.5.3. Yes, I have access to Mac running high sierra. I want to use this ROM, as it says the gpu's working:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ki...ment/rom-cm-13-kindle-hdx-2015-11-29-t3259732
I was reading this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/thor-4-5-5-2-easy-to-root-unlock-t3571240
So that one click unlock bootloader is the best way? Once I get it unlocked, can I flash a new ROM with twrp? I'm trying to find appropriate guide.
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As previously stated integrated GPU works fine with all contemporary Android 7.1 based ROMs for this device. This can be observed with varying loads via any well regarded kernel manager. In my experience the default msm_adrino_tz governor works best. Not that it matters much. 330 is ridiculously weak. Don't be that outlier that tilts to some obscure writing ("read somewhere") that has no basis in reality. Android 7.1 could care less about the underlying hardware as kernel handles the interfaces.
See this thread for info on unlocking the bootloader. You will need to PM the author for a copy of the appropriate scripts. There is a manual method (what I always use) but 1-click makes the process much easier...especially for those unfamiliar with this device which ain't your typical Android gizmo. Good luck.

Android x86_64 8.1 r3 WON'T BOOT AFTER INSTALLATION

Ah $HlT here we go again... Same issue that never was fixed but I really want to run this os cause my laptop is old
Specs https://support.hp.com/ie-en/document/c02540068
I tried booting with parameter "nomodeset" "xforcevesa" "nomodeset xforcevesa" no luck ;_;
Could anybody assist me fixing this issue
GAVE UP...
Terminological said:
Ah $HlT here we go again... Same issue that never was fixed but I really want to run this os cause my laptop is old
Specs https://support.hp.com/ie-en/document/c02540068
I tried booting with parameter "nomodeset" "xforcevesa" "nomodeset xforcevesa" no luck ;_;
Could anybody assist me fixing this issue
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After many hours of looking for an answer i realised android x86 is still in development. But I found this and i was jumping of excitement.
Found this These are stable Phoenix OS, Bliss OS but they best work for newer 64 bit laptops so the best 32 bit stable os i found is Prime os
PrimeOS Classic 32 bit (for older systems) - https://primeos.in/
Use this variant if you have a cpu which was manufactured before year 2011, For example ->[ Intel Core i series 1st gen or below OR Intel Pentium dual core OR Intel Pentium G620 OR AMD Phenom II X6 1100T etc. ] Just enter your cpu model on google and you can find this info easily. This variant of PrimeOS will work well for all Old Intel, Old AMD and Old Nvidia GPUs. This version will also work on 32-bit systems, In case you cannot boot this variant of PrimeOS, you should try using PrimeOS standard or mainline.
I hope this helps.

Recommendations Inexpensive Android 64 bit OS Phones?

Recently got a Samsung SM-J337V phone with Exynos 7885 SOC with 2GB RAM to test 64 bit apps.
Ran AIDA64 to check after failing to install the 64 bit VLC multimedia player. Result Instruction Set 64 bit ARMv8-A (32 bit Mode).
Question: Does anyone know how to change this to 64 bit Mode?
If not any recommenations for inexpensive Android 64 bit OS Phones?
Did some searching and found "How to find Android phone running 64-bit operating system for software testing purposes?" https://stackoverflow.com/questions...4-bit-operating-system-for-software-testing-p where Ed of the Mountain mentioned "I cannot find a way to search for and locate Android devices running 64-bit Android. What I Have Learned: ARM64 hardware does NOT mean the device is running Android 64-bit, only that it is capable. Example: I purchased a Moto G7; ARM64 and 4GB RAM, it runs 32-bit Android. A Samsung S7 has ARM64 and only 1.5GB RAM but DOES run 64-bit Android. Fact: RAM > 4GB is not addressable by 32-bit Android. This is not a useful indicator of 64-bit Android because all affordable Android devices have 4GB or less RAM.
Followed link to Seva Alekseyev's list of Android 64 bit phones https://rathertech.blogspot.com/2019/06/those-are-sixty-four.html mentions "Answering to this StackOverflow question, here's a list of Android device models that were seen supporting 64 bit code. No guarantee, though. The OS selection is up to the carrier; it could be the case that your carrier sells the same model with a 32-bit OS."
Am wondering if a customer can have the carrier change the Android OS on these phones to 64 bit?

64 bit system for moto g5s plus download

how can i download a 64 bit version of the moto G5S PLUS operating system?
Tatavojta said:
how can i download a 64 bit version of the moto G5S PLUS operating system?
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32-bit Android is OK for your phone: its RAM capacity is only 3GB and/or 4GB.
but my favorite app will require it after the update
Tatavojta said:
but my favorite app will require it after the update
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Converting a 32-bit device to 64-bit is a near impossible task, due to the lack of drivers. So OEM will have good reason NOT to provide a 64-bit Android for your phone.
You can try to compile your own 64-bit Android. Read more here.
for example in india i think they have released a 64 bit version of the system for this phone
Tatavojta said:
for example in india i think they have released a 64 bit version of the system for this phone
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Then get it and flash it
You're highly suggested to contact OEM.
I'm just trying to find it.

Help king kong mini 2 not support 64 bit apps?!?!

Hi i have cubot king kong mini 2
I try to install some apk files from file maneger and some of them are failed to install
Then i realise... all the app that failed is
64 bit version
the google play store don't show me 64 bit apps
and if i try to search 64 bit from google search like parallel space 64 its redirect to play store and the play store say your phone is not compatible
i try some OS from andronix and its say my phone is 32 architecture phone
The mt6761 processor is 64 bit support. and antutu benchmark say the phone is 64 bit and the android 10 os is 64 bit
(And even older and weaker cpu support 64bit like my k touch i9)
I believe it's a bug in the software the app get info that my phone is 32 bit. Where can I change that?
please some one can help me solve this problem.
Usb debugging or root maybe?
I dig a little and the only selutionthat i found is to burn custom rom like lineage os
I found this guide but any one can explain to me more about this procces? how to fast boot like he say (like pic or video)
Cubot King Kong Mini 2
Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
Even if device's SoC is 64-bit what really matters is Android's ABI ( read: Application Binary Interface ): if it's 32-bit then you can't run 64-bit apps.
Ok
There is any way to change this Android's ABI?
Re-flash phone with an Android what is compiled as 64-bit.
You mean like
lineage-18.1-20210512-UNOFFICIAL-treble_a64_bvS.img
Or
system-roar-arm32_binder64-ab-vanilla.img by @phhusson
??????
What the difference between arm 32 binder 64
or just arm 64 like linageOS ???
well try the arm64 ones first
Ok i do as this guy does
Installing Custom ROM on Cubot KingKong Mini
UPDATE 2021 The original post was for the first King Kong Mini, for instructions for the King Kong Mini 2 go to page 9 in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/installing-custom-rom-on-cubot-kingkong-mini.4050815/post-84445303...
forum.xda-developers.com
But i dont know where to put the rom file
lineage-18.1-20210512-UNOFFICIAL-treble_a64_bvS.img
Are you sure the phone in question is "Project Treble" ready?
jwoegerbauer said:
Are you sure the phone in question is "Project Treble" ready?
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It should. It has Android 10.
i doono what this means but like he says i have andro 10

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