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I'm in the market for a new device as my contract is up and I my Dinc isn't doing it for me anymore, even with ICS installed. I want to know what some of you guys with experience with both of the phones think I should do. The main improvements that I want out of my next smartphone are in order:
1 - Display - mainly size
2 - Microhphone - I'm a songwriter and record song ideas to my phone all the time. the Dinc's mic is awful and distorted at anything louder than a speaking voice.
3 - Battery - I realize that with batteries not getting much bigger and LTE coming on board that this may be a pipe dream ... but I'd like to get an 8AM to midnight day out of my next phone.
4 - On board speaker - I miss calls regularly on my Dinc because it isn't loud enough and I've had to replace the speaker once already.
Here are my winners of the two after handling them in the store:
1 - Display - LG
2 - Microphone - LG by long shot (noise cancellation) - Rezound's is just as bad as my Dinc's
3 - Battery - have no clue. anyone have any insight for me? I am crazy to think getting a full day out of either of these phones is possible? I don't know if the screen/mic/data speed upgrade would even be worth it if I'm going to be tethered to the wall every 6 hours.
4 - Speaker Volume - LG
Here are a couple things I'm unsure about that I've loved about my Dinc. Any insight would be appreciated.
DEV Support - Rezound wins this by long shot, but the Spectrum is brand new, so there's no real telling what the Dev community will look like. What are the chances the Spectrum gets CM9?
WIFI Tether - I assume LG is rootable, since most LGs have unlocked bootloader & NitroHD has been rooted. Am I wrong to assume it will be rooted or does anyone know if it's happened yet?
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LG also had random issue of GPS not connecting while in verizon store. That could be seriously annoying.
Rezound's camera also kills LG's but I never take pictures, so it doesn't matter to me. The Mic superiority would make it easy for me to make this trade-off.
Here's a video review by wirefly that confirms most of my observations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTMVfhLIc48
The Rezound is a great device. I had the HTC Desire before it and that is very similar in hardware to the dinc. My Rezound gets better battery life. If I am not actively using the phone much of the day, I can get about 15 hours out of the battery. If I am using it alot (1+ hours of screen on time for the day) the battery life drops out. I think you can pretty much get 2-2.5 hours of screen on time with the phone before it is dead. So if it sits in your pocket all day or are making calls, it will be fine all day. But if you text constantly, watch videos, play games, the battery won't last 8-midnight.
This HTC will probably have the best development of the two, as it is the best phone on verizon right now. You do have time to return phones, so I would suggest buying the Rezound. If you hate it after a week, then get the spectrum.
I hope that helps.
vantagejuan said:
Here are my winners of the two after handling them in the store:
1 - Display - LG
2 - Microphone - LG by long shot (noise cancellation) - Rezound's is just as bad as my Dinc's
3 - Battery - have no clue. anyone have any insight for me? I am crazy to think getting a full day out of either of these phones is possible? I don't know if the screen/mic/data speed upgrade would even be worth it if I'm going to be tethered to the wall every 6 hours.
4 - Speaker Volume - LG
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Based on my having the Rezound for a few days now, here's my two cents for you.
1. Display - Having not seen the IPS display yet, I can't comment on its quality, but when you crank the brightness on the Rezound it is blindingly bright.
2. Microphone - I haven't had anyone I've called complain about background noise outside of speakphone calls, but YMMV.
3. Battery - Fully dependent how you use it. When I had the phone stock, I would lose 10% battery for every 10 minutes I was surfing on 4G. Now that I'm running Senseless 2.0 I've seen a substantial increase across the board in battery life (I'm currently sitting at 35 hours since my last full charge with light use)
4. Speaker Volume - Again, haven't played with the Spectrum, but the Rezound has far and away the loudest, and more importantly, the clearest sound of any smartphone I've ever used.
I'd strongly recommend playing around with all the settings of the two side by side in the store, e.g. adjust brightness, volume, play with ringtones vs. music, etc. For what it's worth, I was completely sold on a GNex before comparing it with the Rezound, which smokes it from every angle imaginable short of stock software.
Most important factor is that the Rezound isn't made by LG...
KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
I'm getting another phone this coming week and plan on getting another Rezound.
another you say?... yes, I switched from a Rezound to a Galaxy Nexus(big mistake) then ended up trading the Nexus for a Bionic + $300.... and due to Bionic 'known issues' Verizon's agreed to let me get another phone again at upgrade price(& do as i wish with the Bionic).
The Rezound I already know what I'm in for and still feel it's the most superior phone(performance wise) as well as the best looking display.
I played with the LG yesterday & yes, do like the bigger screen but very worried about dev support as LG is notorious for having horrible dev support + it felt really sluggish to me compared to both the Rezound & the Nexus.
The LG does have potential if it gets unlocked/rooted, but I wouldn't want to just blindly buy it without knowing if those things will ever happen.
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Most important factor is that the Rezound isn't made by LG...
KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
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+10! I don't think we can really put an Lg device in the same group as the top end devices.
You buy that LG at your own risk. Rezound is the way to go.
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Most important factor is that the Rezound isn't made by LG...
KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
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LG is good at one thing, in my opinion...they make an amazing TV. Beyond that, I wouldn't trust them. HTC does essentially one thing...mobile communication devices, whether they are phones or tablets. They're good at what they do. LG is good at making TVs. (Just like Samsung).
I've decided just to wait it out until there's a 4g phone that can get me through the day that doesnt require making my phone look pregnant and isn't a razr maxx. Its a low usage day for me and I'm at 2.5 hours of display on time. Paying $400 for two phones that would be dead right now seems pretty dumb just for a bigger screen and better microphone.
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Considering battery life is important to you, I would not get the Spectrum.
It's basically the exact same phone as the Nitro for AT&T and that got reviewed as one of the worst battery life phones you can get, can't imagine the Spectrum will be much different.
LG phones = poo.
If you are willing to wait like you said, I would wait until phones running on the new Krait architecture CPUs. (qualcomm S4 CPU/SOC)
They have the modem/radio integrated tightly into the SOC and it is also made with 28nm size.
This tight integration and 28nm will make battery life much much better than current phones.
Anyone else having people you call tell you they can't hear you in the middle of conversations? I can't find any correlation. It has happened with 3 different calls today. All in different locations,but not in the car.
I'll normally reposition the phone on my face and it will correct. Is it possible I'm covering the Mic with the Palm of my hand?
had this issue a second ago.. hmmm
Yes very frustrating! Several times, never happened on Vzn before.
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Got the same problem
cyberhern said:
Yes very frustrating! Several times, never happened on Vzn before.
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Bought my g3 in Berlin, using it in Israel...
I am having this issue. issue is fine when the phone is directly to ur ear but if u adjust it or have it a couple of inches away it is horrible.
been testing all day. speakerphone doesn't have this problem.
leave a fake message for urself and u can hear the problem
take the phone and talk into it like a hand radio in normal to low dialogue. while doing it change between speaker and handset talk at the same level.
Anyone ever find a solution to this? I'm still having the problem. Wish I had returned the phone the first time it happened, but I thought it was just a bad signal. I went back in to Best Buy where I bought the phone and they were zero help.
Other threads mentioning the problem:
http://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/2bmljy/verizon_lg_g3_terrible_call_quality_and/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/complaints-call-quality-t2828905
Welcome to the club
Has anyone had any feedback from LG/Verizon on this?
I called both and was told "they hadn't heard of the problem" which I don't believe.
Anyone get a fix or has a replacement phone fixed the issue?
Yes - I'm still suffering with this issue.
I have been using speakerphone lately and have not had a single complaint. As previously noted, using a BT headset works fine every time as well.
This leads me to suspect that the noise cancelling/voice enhancement circuitry is running amok because supposedly speakerphone and BT do not use that feature, even though the one selection I have on my phone is off I think the phone still uses some enhancement when using the stock mic.
Next step is to block the mic on top with a piece of foam and see if that fixes it. By blocking that mic, the phone will think it's in a completely silent from ambient noise setting and maybe will turn off the noise cancellation circuitry.
Food for thought.
I don't know if I can prove it, but the problem feels worse (more people tell me they can't hear me) with the quick circle case on. It still happens with my other case and with no case at all, but less.
Has anyone who has this issue received today's OTA from Verizon? If so, is the problem still present for you? I will have a chance to test myself tomorrow.
I received the update yesterday and have not had anyone complain of call quality yet but I have not made a lot of calls. It is encouraging though because I would get complaints on most calls. I'll give it a few days and see before proclaiming it's fixed.
FWIW I was using an Otter Box and am now using an LG Circle case but it fails with/without the cases. IOW case made no difference.
I have my fingers crossed that it might be fixed.
I do notice the phone seems quicker with the update.
I made two calls on my Vzw G3 today, using only the handset (not speakephone or bluetooth), and both callers said I sounded fine. One call was about 15 mins, and one about 5. My fingers are crossed that it is fixed, too. I really don't have any other complaints about this phone, and there isn't one I would rather be using right now.
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I made two calls on my Vzw G3 today, using only the handset (not speakephone or bluetooth), and both callers said I sounded fine. One call was about 15 mins, and one about 5. My fingers are crossed that it is fixed, too. I really don't have any other complaints about this phone, and there isn't one I would rather be using right now.
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Unfortunately I updated a few days ago and I had the problem last night on a call. So frustrating.
So only one complaint and I think it was due to a poor coverage area. I would get complaints all day long and every day so maybe, just maybe, they fixed it.... Still not convinced but feeling positive about this issue.
Today out of 7 calls so far I have had one person tell me they couldn't hear me. Re-positioning the phone closer to my mouth so my ear was more on the glass and not the speaker hole fixed it.
It's better than it used to be but might still be having problems.. Time will tell.
As an update, the problem is still there but it does seem better. Maybe 3 out of 10 calls will have the person on the other end telling me they can't hear me, breaking up, under water etc.
I've about had it with this phone and Verizon and I'm real close to putting it on Swappa and moving on to another phone and maybe another carrier.
I have been cautiously trying voice calls on the handset, but really got used to carrying Bluetooth headphones around over the last few months.
I have had 2 calls in maybe 8 where the caller complained, so about the same ratio as you.
I still don't want to switch to a different phone. I am not convinced I want a moto x or that I am ready for the size of the nexus 6.
Verizon sucks, but I need the strong network.
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I have been cautiously trying voice calls on the handset, but really got used to carrying Bluetooth headphones around over the last few months.
I have had 2 calls in maybe 8 where the caller complained, so about the same ratio as you.
I still don't want to switch to a different phone. I am not convinced I want a moto x or that I am ready for the size of the nexus 6.
Verizon sucks, but I need the strong network.
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I really believe the issue is the G3 on VZ. My spouse switched to the iPhone 6: no issues with voice calls, with same usage as with the G3. I prefer Android phones, so I haven't decided what to do yet.
My wife has an iPhone 4 and before my LG G3 I had a Droid Razr Maxx. Neither phone has this problem. Same number of calls, same locations etc. All the complaints I have seen involve the G3 on Verizon so it's probably something to do with Verizon's version of Android.
Anyone else having complaints of an echo during their calls? Had 3 people tell me this.
Antennagate?
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Anyone else having complaints of an echo during their calls? Had 3 people tell me this.
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I've had the call fade in and out a bit. My spouse (has the same phone), noticed people complaining about fade out during calls, too. We noticed that if we held the phone normally (fingers wrapped around the phone, about the middle of the phone), the calls fade out. If you hold the phone around the bottom near the speaker -- or use a headset -- calls are okay.
As a little test, I held the phone normally and the network signal was around -114 dBM.
I put the phone on the table, the network signal was around -104 dBM.
Both our G3s exhibited this issue. We didn't purchase them together, either (one by mail, other from store). Perhaps its a phone issue, perhaps we coincidentally received bad phones.
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I've had the call fade in and out a bit. My spouse (has the same phone), noticed people complaining about fade out during calls, too. We noticed that if we held the phone normally (fingers wrapped around the phone, about the middle of the phone), the calls fade out. If you hold the phone around the bottom near the speaker -- or use a headset -- calls are okay.
As a little test, I held the phone normally and the network signal was around -114 dBM.
I put the phone on the table, the network signal was around -104 dBM.
Both our G3s exhibited this issue. We didn't purchase them together, either (one by mail, other from store). Perhaps its a phone issue, perhaps we coincidentally received bad phones.
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I think there are more than just a few people with this problem. Mine is giving me the same issue. People tell me they can't hear me at all, or I sound like I am stuck in a well, or that I am ignoring them. I've tried a couple of things but to no avail. I believe it has something to do with noise cancellation. I just turned off voice enhancement and voice privacy and it still seems to give me this problem but I am gonna try it out for longer. I am with Verizon. Let me know if you guys have any ideas.
Yes I have noticed that when the phone is right to me ear im ok but a couple of inches away and people say echo or sounds like Im stuck in a wall. I mean weird? has anyone tried a factory reset
I've been struggling with this issue since I purchased the phone on the 17th. I've also noted significantly worse signal in relation to my G2. I swapped out my phone this past weekend and the problem exists with the replacement.
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I've been struggling with this issue since I purchased the phone on the 17th. I've also noted significantly worse signal in relation to my G2. I swapped out my phone this past weekend and the problem exists with the replacement.
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I have a replacement on the way. thinking it will be the same
We had this problem with the Verizon g2 when it first came out. Tried swapping devices, Sims, and nothing worked. Eventually LG updated the radio which fixed the issue (if I remember correctly).
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Anyone else having complaints of an echo during their calls? Had 3 people tell me this.
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People tell me this but only when I have them on Speaker phone... no complaints when listening normally or via BT headset or vehicle BT connection.
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People tell me this but only when I have them on Speaker phone... no complaints when listening normally or via BT headset or vehicle BT connection.
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In vehicle bluetooth works every time. I had one case where my wife could barely hear me through the phone (we both have the g3) but all other calls have been fine thus far. Hopefully this gets addressed in the first update.
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Any update on a fix for this?
I just spent a month calling VZ about how people have trouble hearing us (we have two G3s with the same problem). One was replaced and people still have trouble hearing us.
The SG3 was never this bad with calls.
I have not tried my G3 with the Prius Bluetooth, but on every call so far over Verizon or Google Voice/Hangouts the Voice quality whenever I enquired has been reported to be fine.
The only issue I have noticed is that sometimes when I hold the phone right-handed my finger underneath it covers the Mic hole.
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I have a bad habit of bringing the mic away from my mouth at about a 45 degree angle while keeping the phone to my ear. When I do this, I get reports of the echo / can't hear me. Bringing it back to the proper position seems to correct the issue.
I have an ad hoc solution that seems to work so far:
Use the speakerphone while on the call. Totally obnoxious in social settings, but if you're somewhere private, it works.
Turn off Bluetooth. I did this a couple of time no one complained not being able to hear me.
Speaking to Verizon is pretty much useless. One rep did a fancy dance to say this is a software issue and they can't do anything for me at this point.
Add me to the list of Verizon LG G3 owners with poor call quality. You guys have described exactly what I am experiencing. People tell me I fade out, sound tinny, sound underwater etc. I have tried the phone in a case (OtterBox) no case, different parts of my house, different positions holding it, making sure I'm not covering the mic etc.
Also did a factory reset and ran the phone in "Safe Mode" as well
Same problems. Seems to happen on longer calls BTW and I have no troubles hearing people.
I am getting a solid -104 to -108 LTE signal and solid -89dbm CDMA and -88dbm 1xRTT signal.
Right now I am going to use BT exclusively and see what happens, but this is troubling since I make a lot of calls.
I never had this problem, in the same location my house, with my last phone a Droid Razr Maxx.
It gets pretty much the same signal levels.
Any ideas on this?
Is it a Verizon problem?
I bought this phone in BestBuy so I'm not really sure how to proceed to exchange it as I am past my 30 days?
Do I call Verizon?
Go back to Best Buy?
Call LG?
I've dealt with Verizon before and like the other person said, it's not a pleasant experience .
Help!
P.S Other than the call quality issue, this phone is incredible and I love it.
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Add me to the list of Verizon LG G3 owners with poor call quality. You guys have described exactly what I am experiencing. People tell me I fade out, sound tinny, sound underwater etc. I have tried the phone in a case (OtterBox) no case, different parts of my house, different positions holding it, making sure I'm not covering the mic etc.
Also did a factory reset and ran the phone in "Safe Mode" as well
Same problems. Seems to happen on longer calls BTW and I have no troubles hearing people.
I am getting a solid -104 to -108 LTE signal and solid -89dbm CDMA and -88dbm 1xRTT signal.
Right now I am going to use BT exclusively and see what happens, but this is troubling since I make a lot of calls.
I never had this problem, in the same location my house, with my last phone a Droid Razr Maxx.
It gets pretty much the same signal levels.
Any ideas on this?
Is it a Verizon problem?
I bought this phone in BestBuy so I'm not really sure how to proceed to exchange it as I am past my 30 days?
Do I call Verizon?
Go back to Best Buy?
Call LG?
I've dealt with Verizon before and like the other person said, it's not a pleasant experience .
Help!
P.S Other than the call quality issue, this phone is incredible and I love it.
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I have the same problem as many on here and it's frustrating. As great as the features on the phone are, it fails at its most basic task - making calls.
I quoted you to answer part of your question. I, too, got my G3 at Best Buy - 22 days ago to be precise. I finally got fed up with the call quality problem and spoke to Best Buy yesterday (and had the issue pop up mid call with them). Unfortunately, their return policy is 15 days. Beyond that you're forced to use a protection plan claim, if you have one, or work directly with LG for a repair - which would leave you without a phone for a few weeks while LG does its thing. It was also suggested that it could indeed be a software issue and a future update could fix the issue. But that does nothing for us now.
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I have the same problem as many on here and it's frustrating. As great as the features on the phone are, it fails at its most basic task - making calls.
I quoted you to answer part of your question. I, too, got my G3 at Best Buy - 22 days ago to be precise. I finally got fed up with the call quality problem and spoke to Best Buy yesterday (and had the issue pop up mid call with them). Unfortunately, their return policy is 15 days. Beyond that you're forced to use a protection plan claim, if you have one, or work directly with LG for a repair - which would leave you without a phone for a few weeks while LG does its thing. It was also suggested that it could indeed be a software issue and a future update could fix the issue. But that does nothing for us now.
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Thanks for the info Rodeojones.
I suspect it is a software bug.
I "think" I can still take out a protection plan with Verizon so I might do that just in case it gets worse.
I'm trying the BT headset exclusively now to see if that helps or changes things. So far nobody is complaining and also when I use the BT in my car, a crappy Jabra Freeway Speaker thing, nobody seems to complain either which leads me to believe that maybe the mic is doing something odd causing the phone to reduce the audio going out or something.
It certainly is disappointing having a top tier phone that has problems making phone calls.
@stang2003
You've described all the troubleshooting steps I've gone through as well. I am disappointed beyond words. I would at least be happy if there was some affirmation from Verizon or LG that this problem exists, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it....
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People tell me this but only when I have them on Speaker phone... no complaints when listening normally or via BT headset or vehicle BT connection.
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I'm not crazy...I have had this issue since launch. Boo boo ass radios in this phone. Really disappointed I can't use the speakerphone as much as a like..
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I'm not crazy...I have had this issue since launch. Boo boo ass radios in this phone. Really disappointed I can't use the speakerphone as much as a like..
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From what I am reading it seems this might be related to Verizon only.
Is anyone having these kinds of problems on a different carrier than Verizon?
I did find a number of threads regarding poor signal strength with the G3. Seems even the EU folks are having these problems.
Maybe both call quality/microphone problems are actually related to a poor radio signal?
Ok, so an entire day using my Blue Ant ancient T1 BT and not a single complaint about fading in and out etc. In fact I was talking to a person on BT and it was fine. I disconnected the BT, did not move the phone which was right in front of me, put it on speaker and within a couple of minutes he was claiming he couldn't hear me, fading in and out etc. I switched to regular ear (no speaker phone) and same thing with fading in and out. I went back to BT and talked for about 10 additional minutes and it was fine.
My preliminary conclusion, and it's really too early to tell, is that it's somehow related to the mic in the phone as BT doesn't seem to have the problem.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Test with BT and see if you get complaints from people on the other end that you are fading etc.
I'm at lost here I'm not sure whether to exchange my LG g3 for something else . some of my apps are not compatible with 4.4.2 with no update in site and being with in my 14 days not sure what to do . verizon is willing to work with me . coming for the note 3 to LG g3 I have to say I'm disappointed . any help would be appreciated.
Just got unlocked if that matters for you.
I really like mine and I'm keeping it but I think it's a dying phone as far as support goes (both official and from the hacking community).
This is especially true for the Verizon version.
The support the phone receives in the next 8 or 9 months before the G4 is available is what is going to make up my mind up about whether I stick with LG or jump back to the Samsung Galaxy line.
The G3/GS4/Note4 are the only flagship phones I would consider right now because I want a replaceable battery. Options are really limited for those of us who like to be able to carry an extra battery when we are going to have a really long day with heavy usage.
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I'm at lost here I'm not sure whether to exchange my LG g3 for something else . some of my apps are not compatible with 4.4.2 with no update in site and being with in my 14 days not sure what to do . verizon is willing to work with me . coming for the note 3 to LG g3 I have to say I'm disappointed . any help would be appreciated.
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What apps are not compatible with 4.4.2? Maybe someone would know better alternatives to them that are compatible?
Thanks for,the replies I exchanged phone ,most have been a issue with the phone it self everything works now except the starbucks apps I can live with that
I'm thinking of selling mine as well. Still getting callers telling me I am muffled, under water, fading and so forth. I'm one of those rare folks for whom making calls is important. Never had any of these problems with my previous phone a Razr Maxx.
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I'm thinking of selling mine as well. Still getting callers telling me I am muffled, under water, fading and so forth. I'm one of those rare folks for whom making calls is important. Never had any of these problems with my previous phone a Razr Maxx.
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I am in the same boat. I don't know that Verizon or LG are going to fix the muffled sound issue. I plan to move to another phone shortly, and not return to LG.
golden422 said:
I am in the same boat. I don't know that Verizon or LG are going to fix the muffled sound issue. I plan to move to another phone shortly, and not return to LG.
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Ok. Creepy! I rarely use my cell phone for calls. And a few days ago someone told me the exact same thing.
Now the weird part was the issue was exactly the same on hangouts Call and video call with headphones.
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Ok. Creepy! I rarely use my cell phone for calls. And a few days ago someone told me the exact same thing.
Now the weird part was the issue was exactly the same on hangouts Call and video call with headphones.
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I've done some experimenting with the issue because it happens to me on just about every call that goes more than say a couple of minutes or so.
For me, it has never failed even a single time when I use my BT headset or the BT in the car.
In fact just yesterday, I was on a call and the person on the other end was complaining I was fading in and out. I hot swapped to my BT headset and we talked for about 45 minutes without a single problem.
So that leads me to conclude, that at least for my phone, it is the microphone or the audio processing within the phone and most likely not a radio problem.
Also when it does fail, re positioning the phone or talking loudly into the microphone seems to "wake it up" temporarily.
It also fails on speakerphone BTW.
I've seen some hits on the net regarding others with this problem and I suspect it is wide spread however most people are inclined to blame it on the cell connection etc.
I might try LG warranty repair first before selling and see if they can either fix/replace it.
It might just end up being an inherent design problem in the hardware which would be really bad.
Anyone hear a light crackling and buzzing sound during silent portions of a call through regular ear speaker?
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Anyone hear a light crackling and buzzing sound during silent portions of a call through regular ear speaker?
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Yes. There is a crackling sound on every single call I get now. I can even hear it while they are talking. It's not loud enough to make it so you can't hear the other person but it is annoying.
I didn't notice it for the first couple of weeks I had the phone but I've noticed for at least 2 weeks now on every single call.
As for the problem of people not hearing me, that was solved by holding the bottom of the phone closer to my mouth. I have a tendency to angle the phone away from my head when talking and it seems like the mic in the G3 is terrible and just doesn't pick sound up very well at more than a couple inches from your mouth.
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Yes. There is a crackling sound on every single call I get now. I can even hear it while they are talking. It's not loud enough to make it so you can't hear the other person but it is annoying.
I didn't notice it for the first couple of weeks I had the phone but I've noticed for at least 2 weeks now on every single call.
As for the problem of people not hearing me, that was solved by holding the bottom of the phone closer to my mouth. I have a tendency to angle the phone away from my head when talking and it seems like the mic in the G3 is terrible and just doesn't pick sound up very well at more than a couple inches from your mouth.
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I am trying to gather all the info I can on the issue. It seems like it's not affecting different phones just depends on how people hold it.
I preemptively disabled the voice enhancement setting just to be safe.
I placed several test calls to another cell and land-line and I heard no crackling. And my voice sounded just fine.
I am very curious to see if our update to hd calling improves the issue.
The sound I heard was so faint it was only noticeable during a pause. It was very reminiscent of signal interference. Maybe there's something not shielded correctly in the speaker or the antenna is too close?
I think the two issues are separate. Because the one time I had complaints it happened with phone, hangout voice call, and video, over speaker, mic, and headset. Hopefully disabling that voice enhancement fixes it.
Alright...
The bootlaoder is (basically) unlocked, you can get a free battery and cradle if you ask for it from LG, you can root/recovery/flash in @5 steps or less using stump/bump/flashify, and you can flash Jasmine(the phone JUST got TWRP!) ROM right now.
What more do you want?
Just go buy your iPhone/S5/locked down Note and stop bugging the rest of us who love our G3.
The G3 is a great phone and the devs are just getting started.
Hang in there.
startswithPendswithOOH said:
Alright...
The bootlaoder is (basically) unlocked, you can get a free battery and cradle if you ask for it from LG, you can root/recovery/flash in @5 steps or less using stump/bump/flashify, and you can flash Jasmine(the phone JUST got TWRP!) ROM right now.
What more do you want?
Just go buy your iPhone/S5/locked down Note and stop bugging the rest of us who love our G3.
The G3 is a great phone and the devs are just getting started.
Hang in there.
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Of course the G3 is a great phone, but that doesn't negate the fact that people are having problems with call quality. And it's rather odd, at least to me, that people seem to describe the symptoms the same way.
With all the phones I have owned/own, this one is the only one that I constantly have others telling me I'm:
1. Fading out.
2. Sound underwater.
3. Sound muffled.
4. Sound robotic/electronic voice like.
Some things I have discovered, only because I make a lot of calls.
1. Never happens with a BT wireless.
2. Never happens with a wired headset.
3. Never happens with speakerphone.
4. Re-positioning the phone so the bottom mic is above my mouth fixes it. This is not a solution because now the my ear rests in the middle of the screen, almost, not on the speaker.
My guess is that either the mic is not sensitive enough OR that fancy noise reduction/voice enhancement chip LG brags about is running amok somehow.
Reading the boards and even the reviews I realize that actually making phone calls with a phone seems to be an afterthought (see how little space the typical review gives to call quality) but for some of us it's more important than running YouTube at some insane resolution.
I do suspect that the reason the net isn't flooded with complaints is due to the fact that most people will blame this on cell technology and just the nature of the beast.
And that is understandable to a point.
I'm not interested much in rooting the phone.
I just want a phone I can make calls from where I don't have to be constantly re-positioning it so the other person can hear me.
That shouldn't be asking too much for a top tier phone.
This is Verizon BTW.
stang2003 said:
Of course the G3 is a great phone, but that doesn't negate the fact that people are having problems with call quality. And it's rather odd, at least to me, that people seem to describe the symptoms the same way.
With all the phones I have owned/own, this one is the only one that I constantly have others telling me I'm:
1. Fading out.
2. Sound underwater.
3. Sound muffled.
4. Sound robotic/electronic voice like.
Some things I have discovered, only because I make a lot of calls.
1. Never happens with a BT wireless.
2. Never happens with a wired headset.
3. Never happens with speakerphone.
4. Re-positioning the phone so the bottom mic is above my mouth fixes it. This is not a solution because now the my ear rests in the middle of the screen, almost, not on the speaker.
My guess is that either the mic is not sensitive enough OR that fancy noise reduction/voice enhancement chip LG brags about is running amok somehow.
Reading the boards and even the reviews I realize that actually making phone calls with a phone seems to be an afterthought (see how little space the typical review gives to call quality) but for some of us it's more important than running YouTube at some insane resolution.
I do suspect that the reason the net isn't flooded with complaints is due to the fact that most people will blame this on cell technology and just the nature of the beast.
And that is understandable to a point.
I'm not interested much in rooting the phone.
I just want a phone I can make calls from where I don't have to be constantly re-positioning it so the other person can hear me.
That shouldn't be asking too much for a top tier phone.
This is Verizon BTW.
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This will probably be fixed, we haven't even got an update yet.
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This will probably be fixed, we haven't even got an update yet.
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I agree with you Chilidog !
That's why I am sticking with the phone.
I love everything else about this phone.
I must be lucky. The only time I had issues was after I rooted the phone. Once I restored the original ROM the issues completely went away. While I was rooted I had intermittent Wi-Fi, battery drain, and slow apps. Now I've used the phone at work all day and still have 60% battery left. My work Wi-Fi stayed connected all day and no voice quality issues. I've had all 3 Samsung Notes and I love the G3.
Just wondering, but has anyone tried disabling the noise suppression or voice enhancement settings under Settings > Call? These options don't affect BT.
innoman said:
Just wondering, but has anyone tried disabling the noise suppression or voice enhancement settings under Settings > Call? These options don't affect BT.
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The Verizon version only has the Voice Enhancement setting and yes I have tried it both ways with no difference.
The android lollipop update is rumored for the end of 2014. It will probably fix a lot of the sluggishness and call quality problems as well as add better support for ART runtime and loads of other new features.
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Picked up my AT&T G5 on April 23rd. Thought it was pretty darn good at the time, but after using it for a week there are just to many issues with it. Most of them seem to be common here on the forum, so I thought I would run down my list.
1. Dropping Network. I have found that about 2-3 times a day while the signal bars are showing full signal that there is n 4g or 1x icon. during this time I have no connectivity. cannot call, Email, text, surf the web, nothing. this tends to last for anywhere from a few seconds to last night it was over 40 mins. If I reboot the phone that seems to reestablish the network connection, but this is a huge issue to me. I need a reliable phone for work.
2. Dropping GPS. I am a guy that is used for issues at multiple work sites and facilities. As such I tend to use my GPS quite often. last week luckily I was at one static facility so I didnt need to rely on my GPS, but I ran it anyway as I had seen a number of people reporting issues with the G5 retaining GPS lock. about every 15-30 mins my phone would drop the GPS signal. it would take anywhere from a few seconds to 10 mins to reestablish. This is on a known route that i have never had any sort of GPS issues with any phones before.
3. Camera. I had the S4, S5, and then the S6 Edge. they all had pretty good cameras. Low light worked really well. the camera on the G5 does not compare. I thought I could live with it, but coupled with the other issues... Yea, its a problem for me. i like the wide angle camera, but the normal camera leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light situations.
4. Bluetooth. In my car i stream Pandora quite a bit. at least once a day i have to turn bluetooth back on as it will shut itself off in the middle of my commute. Again,not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else...
5. Alarm Clock reliability. This is a strange one... the stock alarm clock tends to not go off for me. the app I normally download and use just plain didnt work with the G5. in one week the alarm has completely failed to go off 4 different days. I have checked all the settings, everything is right, nothing is killing the alarm clock app during the night, but in the morning it just wont go off. I have set the alarm and watched it waiting for it to go off for testing, and half the time when it does go off it is not audible. just the screen lights up. then if I leave everything set as it was and bump the time a couple mins so that it will go off again, the next time I will get audio. sometimes. its inconsistent, but the majority of the time it does not work properly.
6. Screen Quality. Ok, this one is really an issue with me. im jaded. I admit this. Coming from the AmoLED's on the Galaxy series looking at the G5's screen colors seem washed out. Not as sharp and bright. I know the Sammy phones over-saturate the colors, but I guess Im just used to them and because of that this screen Im just not happy with.
7. Always on display. Or what ever it is... the clock that is displayed on the screen when you turn off the screen and lock the phone. On the S6 edge I had only the clock numerals and such was lit. the rest of the screen remained off and black. With the G5 screen even though the screen looks like its off and black in a dark room you can tell the entire screen is on. it lights up my room at night. not a lot, but just enough to bug me. Again, not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else....
8. Sound. streaming music via BT is fine, well as long as the BT remains on... using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. Playing the same track on my G5, my old GS6 Edge and my wifes S7 there is a definite sound quality loss with the G5. I have a set of Sennheiser studio headphones and I could tell ever time my wife plugged them into the G5. I was looking forward to the HIFI module, but well with all the rest here...
So this morning I went back to my AT&T store to return this phone since I was still within my 15 day period. Got there 20 mins before it opened and waited with 4 other people. when i got inside and all checked in to the que for help, the lady kinda chuckled. apparently the other 4 people were there to do the same thing, exchange the G5 for a different device.
I really wanted to like this phone. I really tried. One or two of the issues i could have lived with, but when they are all present... this does NOT seem like a flagship phone to me. seems more like a swing and a miss.
I don't have a G5, so my answer is only based on reviews and other users tests:
1) Here in italy all the reviewers claimed the G5 to have the beste signal in both mobile and wifi network compared to S7 Edge, P9 and HTC 10, so maybe your model was defective?
2) Nothing to say as it seems that other users suffered of this problem, i found nothing about GPS problems in reviews though.
3) G5 has the best camera in normal condition, in low light there is no competition because S7 obviously do a lot better.
4) Same as point 2, no problem in reviews, but some users here in xda have the same problem.
5) It's a third party app? Really, does it work on other devices with Marshmallow or with the Snapdragon 820? The stock app work? Other third party apps work?
6) Yep, that's it. But keep in mind that Amoled is anyway the best display.
7) AOD is totally wrong on both G5 and S7, in the first because in order to drain less battery the display backlight is very low, and in the second, and in my opinion is the more stupid, because it's useless, you can (for the moment) see only stock app notification, clock and date (maybe a very few other things)
8) The bluetooth issue is the same that you reported in point 4, and the story is again the same, some users reported it, but reviewers and other users are surprised for the good sound.
Just try to answer to some problems, i've no intention to argument
I have the poor signal and drops. I was blaming it on my carrier. I may take this back and get a different brand all together.
Hey Kill, In regards to #5, the stock app wasnt working reliably so I tried a app store app. that one wasnt reliable either. I always try to use the stock built in first.
In regards to #8 I was talking about the wired headphones via the headphone jack. BT audio sounded good, but the quality loss was with the wired headphones.
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Hey Kill, In regards to #5, the stock app wasnt working reliably so I tried a app store app. that one wasnt reliable either. I always try to use the stock built in first.
In regards to #8 I was talking about the wired headphones via the headphone jack. BT audio sounded good, but the quality loss was with the wired headphones.
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For the #5 strange, never heard something like this.
For the #8 i saw that, it's the same as other problems, some users have them, other not, and the reviewers never said nothing. Maybe there was a problem with the the jack itself, in my opinion the real issue with this phone is that you have high chances to get a faulty one, moreover in us where it was released first. In my country I'm still waiting for users feedback
I love my lg g5. I get bored of phones and switch up so regularly but still absolutely loving it. I mainly got it for the camera, and I'm more impressed than I was with my beloved lg g4. In manual mode I still believe it's better than the s7 (I tested then both over the course of a week).
That data drop is interesting though. Happens to me too, but can't figure out if it might be something to do with whether you turn wi-fi on or off. Seems linked, as happens to me at work.
I have the ATT one too. Got it the day before launch... Screen i think comes second to the S7 TBh, but is still pretty damn good... Camera I find is sick, better than the competition in my opinion. I haven't had any issues with data or signal loss whatsoever, however I can confirm when using GPS the signal will either drop, or it won't lock on at all until I just about hold it to the top of my front windshield!!! The sound I find is fine, but im no audio engineer either. I use jaybird X2 BT ear buds and I think they sound fantastic with no Bluetooth signal loss ever... Alarm issue is a new one to me.. No problems here and I constantly have to change the time due to our ridiculous work schedule.
One can definitely understand why you are bringing yours back. Hope you enjoy your next device.
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schollianmj said:
Picked up my AT&T G5 on April 23rd. Thought it was pretty darn good at the time, but after using it for a week there are just to many issues with it. Most of them seem to be common here on the forum, so I thought I would run down my list.
1. Dropping Network. I have found that about 2-3 times a day while the signal bars are showing full signal that there is n 4g or 1x icon. during this time I have no connectivity. cannot call, Email, text, surf the web, nothing. this tends to last for anywhere from a few seconds to last night it was over 40 mins. If I reboot the phone that seems to reestablish the network connection, but this is a huge issue to me. I need a reliable phone for work.
2. Dropping GPS. I am a guy that is used for issues at multiple work sites and facilities. As such I tend to use my GPS quite often. last week luckily I was at one static facility so I didnt need to rely on my GPS, but I ran it anyway as I had seen a number of people reporting issues with the G5 retaining GPS lock. about every 15-30 mins my phone would drop the GPS signal. it would take anywhere from a few seconds to 10 mins to reestablish. This is on a known route that i have never had any sort of GPS issues with any phones before.
3. Camera. I had the S4, S5, and then the S6 Edge. they all had pretty good cameras. Low light worked really well. the camera on the G5 does not compare. I thought I could live with it, but coupled with the other issues... Yea, its a problem for me. i like the wide angle camera, but the normal camera leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light situations.
4. Bluetooth. In my car i stream Pandora quite a bit. at least once a day i have to turn bluetooth back on as it will shut itself off in the middle of my commute. Again,not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else...
5. Alarm Clock reliability. This is a strange one... the stock alarm clock tends to not go off for me. the app I normally download and use just plain didnt work with the G5. in one week the alarm has completely failed to go off 4 different days. I have checked all the settings, everything is right, nothing is killing the alarm clock app during the night, but in the morning it just wont go off. I have set the alarm and watched it waiting for it to go off for testing, and half the time when it does go off it is not audible. just the screen lights up. then if I leave everything set as it was and bump the time a couple mins so that it will go off again, the next time I will get audio. sometimes. its inconsistent, but the majority of the time it does not work properly.
6. Screen Quality. Ok, this one is really an issue with me. im jaded. I admit this. Coming from the AmoLED's on the Galaxy series looking at the G5's screen colors seem washed out. Not as sharp and bright. I know the Sammy phones over-saturate the colors, but I guess Im just used to them and because of that this screen Im just not happy with.
7. Always on display. Or what ever it is... the clock that is displayed on the screen when you turn off the screen and lock the phone. On the S6 edge I had only the clock numerals and such was lit. the rest of the screen remained off and black. With the G5 screen even though the screen looks like its off and black in a dark room you can tell the entire screen is on. it lights up my room at night. not a lot, but just enough to bug me. Again, not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else....
8. Sound. streaming music via BT is fine, well as long as the BT remains on... using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. Playing the same track on my G5, my old GS6 Edge and my wifes S7 there is a definite sound quality loss with the G5. I have a set of Sennheiser studio headphones and I could tell ever time my wife plugged them into the G5. I was looking forward to the HIFI module, but well with all the rest here...
So this morning I went back to my AT&T store to return this phone since I was still within my 15 day period. Got there 20 mins before it opened and waited with 4 other people. when i got inside and all checked in to the que for help, the lady kinda chuckled. apparently the other 4 people were there to do the same thing, exchange the G5 for a different device.
I really wanted to like this phone. I really tried. One or two of the issues i could have lived with, but when they are all present... this does NOT seem like a flagship phone to me. seems more like a swing and a miss.
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Humm, I haven't had any such issues....
Hope you enjoy your new device.
As a comparison, my data, gps, Bluetooth and such all work fine. When using an auxiliary cable in my car I had that hissing sound, but using the alternate 3.5mm port on the back of my radio fixed the issue.
The only part of the phone that could use some fine tuning is the strength of the paint or whatever it's calledy. The paint got a little rough or irritated in a couple spots from removing a tpu case less than ten times. I also noticed a little chip in the coating near the charging port. I'm very careful with my phones. My G2 has less blemishes at this point and I've had that thing forever. I'll be curious to see how it will hold up over the next year, at the least.
Who knows, my paint problem could be a minority issue just as others with GPS and data issues. In my case, instead of getting a new device that could possibly have more than superficial defects. I'll keep the one with the funky paint.
As we all know, there's lots to love about this phone. I'm sure as hell keeping mine.
All the problems I hear about seem to be non existant on the unbranded variants or variants for carriers outside the US...
Also AT&T H820 seems to have the most issues.
Had this phone for a week now with no issues.I've only read one bad report of a variant outside the US...
Not saying LG is not at fault but this what happens when carriers mess with the firmware...doesn't explain quality issues but most of it seems to be with AT&T
My main issue is the ambient light sensor causing the image to flicker in low light when using the FFC, and the obvious auto brightness issue. This needs to get fixed ASAP by LG.
Everything else is working just fine for me. Battery life is meh, but as others have mentioned the stand by time is amazing feels similar to the performance of an iPhone in terms of battery life. Bluetooth works fine as well.
I do not have any of these issues. So have to say I disagree with this post completely.
1 Carrier issues, ie network is your mobile provider. Mine drops never. 4G 2 to 3 bars most of the time.
2. GPS on mine is perfect, many journeys well over half an hour, no issues at all.
3. The camera beats out any other phone I've used low light and craps over the Galaxy S's Barring the 7. (You need to use manual or a steady hand but still stands)
4. BT issues is the devices you are connecting to.
5. Alarm clock always goes off for me.. maybe you're turning it off in your sleep, or some settings you've altered or app you've downloaded
6. S6 and 7 screens are better, no doubt, except in sunlight where the S6 is not really useable but G5 is absolutely perfect in sun. As bright as if you're indoors.
7. Always on display drains too much battery so I turn it off... I like my 6.5 hours screen on time at 75% brightness.
8. Sound quality trounces my old S6 and Xperia Z5, can't say much else about this. It's louder and clearer and bassier.
Have to say i'm happy with this phone and thanks to the wide angle lens.. I might just end up keeping it.
UK H850 Stock Rom had for 4 weeks now.
1. Dropping Network. -- This has been better than my old Z2. In fact some "dead spots" that my friends phone suffer from I find my phone still has 2 bars
2. Dropping GPS. -- Used the LG fitness tracker the other day and it was really accurate to the paths I walked when check on google maps. CHecking some photos on google and they are accurate to 2 metres.
3. Camera. -- Low light has not been an issue for me, but if it were I'd switch to the manual mode. Done some amazing sunsets thanks to the manual mode
4. Bluetooth. -- Only used with headphones but never had an issue. Streamed for couple of hours to a portable speaker at a bbq this weekend and was faultless.
5. Alarm Clock reliability.-- Not used that feature. Have used the timer function for cooking and that works a treat, very loud as well
6. Screen Quality.-- I thought my Xperia Z2 screen was good, the G5 is blinding when you set brightness up. It's amazing for outdoor use in sun light. I have seen the S6 screen, colours look freakish and don't match when on a TV or monitor
7. Always on display. -- I have stopped turning my phone on thanks to this and the battery usage is insane, it barely uses it. Also I have noticed it changes brightness based on on light sensor. Plus if I want it off I cover the proximity sensor or flip it.
8. using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. -- Yet this has a 24bit DAC, better than the S7 (dependent on processor) and most other flagships. The basic headphones with it are crap but they are cheap. But my sony nc ones sound amazing with it.
I read a lot of bad things about quality whee this launched but then I reminded myself, people only tend to have time to complain about things and no praise. I know I'm guilty of that. In fact I'll layout my one complaint about the G5, the UI. It's not as "clever" or usable as what I'm used to with the Xperia. But I can change that with 3rd party software and root.
Maybe you have a bad one, or may as someone else pointed out the issue is the carriers forcing changes on base model. All those variants could be affecting the quality control.
I have the H860N dual sim version, not having any problems as mentioned above apart from the alarm part.
I set my alarm on at 3pm and 4pm with snooze in case I over slept, but some how the alarm goes off at around 9:20pm and also the set alarm times, not sure if it's related to other features.
I'm still testing it now.
I just wanted to chime in here.
I have the LG G5 on Verizon and my signal is horrid. I lose LTE coverage all the time. This is NOT the network as I also carry a LG G4 with me that is also on Verizon and it always has a LTE connection and a strong signal at the time that the G5 drops. I am getting Verizon to replace the device, hopefully this resolves the issue.
They had me use the Repair tool on my PC along with multiple factory resets. They event went as far as to blame the Google Application updates that were from the Play store, aka looking for a cop out.
The only issue that I've had with my G5 has been with the AT&T LTE signal. Sometimes I find the phone struggling to stay on LTE for a minute or two. This is not a big problem for me but it is sometimes annoying when I try to watch a video or something. I live in the Washington DC area and LTE service is pretty strong over most of the area, so it's not a carrier issue. Again it's not a big deal and most of the time I don't notice it.
Regarding the camera, it's one of the best smartphone cameras I've seen yet, I've taken some pretty amazing shots and all of them have been in full auto mode.
If your device is having that many issues, you should probably return it.
You are right
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All the problems I hear about seem to be non existant on the unbranded variants or variants for carriers outside the US...
Also AT&T H820 seems to have the most issues.
Had this phone for a week now with no issues.I've only read one bad report of a variant outside the US...
Not saying LG is not at fault but this what happens when carriers mess with the firmware...doesn't explain quality issues but most of it seems to be with AT&T
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I wonder why AT&T and other U.S. carriers like to put their own software on top of LG factory image. Unbranded LG G5 works great!
Maybe you are right, Carriers 's bloatware may cause those issues.
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Go hidden menu, Run a ALL-AUTO-TEST, you can test the LTE NETWORK issues, If in test mode, the LTE never drops. It is not the hardware issue. According to my experience, Most of issues are caused by Carrier firmware.
I have this same issue with the alarm clock. sometimes it works my early morning alarm rarely goes off.
I have tried adding the alarm clock app to the battery optimization exception list and that hasn't helped.
Third party apps on the optimization list or off still unreliable.
anyone find a solution for this? i may try a factory reset this weekend.
other apps like KIK seem to have the same problem like they just stop functioning when the screen is off. I get a flood of messages when i unlock the screen.
could it have something to do with device encryption? i don't think my phone always had these problems and that;s the only big change i can think of that i made.
I haven't had a single one of the listed issues on my Verizon phone other than the pretty bad low light camera, which does bum me out because it was weirdly a lot better on my G4? Daylight photos are absolutely beautiful.
I also use my alarm every night with no issues.
The update my phone downloaded last Friday seems to have fixed my issues with the alarm clock.
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