Is it worth it?
I have Moto Z for 6 monts or more and I like it but yesterday I saw an discount in MediaMarkt in Germany (I'll be here for 2 more weeks),300€ for Moto Z2 Play 64gb Dual + JBL SoundBoost 2.
What do you think guys?
welder73 said:
Is it worth it?
I have Moto Z for 6 monts or more and I like it but yesterday I saw an discount in MediaMarkt in Germany (I'll be here for 2 more weeks),300€ for Moto Z2 Play 64gb Dual + JBL SoundBoost 2.
What do you think guys?
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The Z2 Play has a lower resolution screen, a weaker CPU and a thicker body.
However, it has the newer design which looks great and a bigger battery.
But when you consider that the JBL mod costs ridiculous 100€, the Z2 Play sounds great at 200€. You can get it as a Christmas present for someone and keep the JBL mod.
The Moto Z clocks down because of too much heat, so the weaker cpu of the Z2 play could be an improvement compared to the heat of the Moto Z.
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The Moto Z clocks down because of too much heat
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You should try using older flagships, those get hot. Anything with a Snapdragon 820 or above should not heat up even to a level before being uncomfortable.
I got the phone in Summer and even then did it not heat up(unlike previous phones). It only got warm, still colder than body temperature(36.6°C). Not to mention that I use the overclocked kernel by default.
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You should try using older flagships, those get hot. Anything with a Snapdragon 820 or above should not heat up even to a level before being uncomfortable.
I got the phone in Summer and even then did it not heat up(unlike previous phones). It only got warm, still colder than body temperature(36.6°C). Not to mention that I use the overclocked kernel by default.
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Did you ever touched the back while using youtube for more than 10 minutes?
I don't mean the cover mod or any moto mod.
It does get hot and if it gets hot, it throttles the cpu.
In recovery while backing up the phone gets also pretty warm but there is a temperature barrier.
I think that if some temperature is reached, the kernel clocks the cpu down to not overheat.
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Did you ever touch the back while using youtube for more than 10 minutes?
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Yeah, I did. I use it for VR as well until the whole battery depletes. And again, it gets warm, not hot.
I don't mean the cover mod or any moto mod.
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I have a Dbrand skin and a rugged case(which should actually increase the heat potential).
It does get hot and if it gets hot, it throttles the cpu.
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It does not get hot but if it miraculously does, yeah, it will throttle just like any other phone or a PC CPU/GPU.
In recovery while backing up the phone gets also pretty warm but there is a temperature barrier.
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You seem to be calling warm temperatures hot for some reason, but that's your thing. Again, try ravaging a flagship or a midranger from 2015. Those things get hot and not warm.
I think that if some temperature is reached, the kernel clocks the cpu down to not overheat.
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You don't need to think about this, it's a fact within almost all processing technology. Thanks to smaller architectures one gets CPUs or GPUs which use less power, produce less heat(are more efficient) and provide better performance. With SD820 onwards flagship smartphones are actual flagship smartphones.
I have a Moto Z and a Moto Z2 Play. To me, there is no question. I'd go with the Z2 Play. The gesture fingerprint reader is a good enough feature to justify the switch. It is hard to go back to a device with on-screen buttons once you get used to it.
Also, battery life is better, screen is good enough at FHD, and the thickness is just right. I've had absolutely zero issue with the Z2 Play, whereas I do occasionally have heat related issues with the Z.
Hope that helps.
The Z battery is very bad, very very bad i must say.
What about the cameras, does either phone have a significantly better camera?
I just got the Moto Z new and I love now I want the Z2 Force, But I just can't see the z2play being faster then the Moto Z but how is the camera on it
Well,I couldn't buy that Moto Z2 Play,it was only for Germans...
But I have a new question:
OnePlus 5T 64GB,one month old with 2 years guarantee for 400€ (around 490$)...
Is it worth?
Yes it is, the OnePlus 5T is a beast of a phone. One month ofusage is not enough to wear any component, and even though you have 2 years of warranty.
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Hi guys, one of my android cell phone sucks, it runs out of the battery every one hour, so I want to buy a new smartphone, one of my friends recommends me Ulephone phone, I havent heard of it before, have you ? I have searched it a lot on the internet and it seems to be a new brand Android phone? er, I am not good at tech stuff, I just hope my new phone could possesses the same function as my tablet does maybe?
Here is the phone I just found from coolicool, and I completely don't understand its specs, can anybody here give me a help?
Key Features:
◇6 inch 16M-color PLS display at FHD resolution (1920X1080 pixels)
◇Weighs 172g, 83.2*166*7.6mm in size.
◇Rockchip RK3188 SoC., 1.6GHZ quad core Cortex-A9 processor, Mali-400MP4 GPU, 2GB DDR3 RAM
◇Android 4.2.1
◇32GB of built-in-storage
◇5MP front facing camera; 13MP rear-facing camera
◇Stereo speakers
◇GPS
◇Bluetooth V4.0
◇MicroSD card slot
◇Standard 3.5mm audio jack
◇1080p video playback
◇2800mAh Li-Po rechargeable battery, 8-10 hours battery life
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This is a Huawei P6 design? Huawei P6 heat dissipation is not good.
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This is a Huawei P6 design? Huawei P6 heat dissipation is not good.
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yes,it look like Huawei P6,but i do not know if it has the same problem.
thankyou
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yes,it look like Huawei P6,but i do not know if it has the same problem.
thankyou
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Generally very thin mobile phone, its heat dissipation is not very good.
Lindsay02 said:
Generally very thin mobile phone, its heat dissipation is not very good.
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how about the battery and screen of this android phone?
have anyone bought it already?
I use Huawei P6, I do not play games, so the battery can use more than one day, but sometimes the screen unresponsive. One time I play games, three minutes later, the phone began to heat, heat dissipation is not very good, so now I don't play games.
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I use Huawei P6, I do not play games, so the battery can use more than one day, but sometimes the screen unresponsive. One time I play games, three minutes later, the phone began to heat, heat dissipation is not very good, so now I don't play games.
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are you from shenzhen? nice to meet you.
and do you have any other idea about buying this android phone?
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are you from shenzhen? nice to meet you.
and do you have any other idea about buying this android phone?
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Giving me a choice, I would not buy Huawei P6.
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Giving me a choice, I would not buy Huawei P6.
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this one?
how do you feel about the price?
thanks and again
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this one?
how do you feel about the price?
thanks and again
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The system is Android 4.3?
Lindsay02 said:
The system is Android 4.3?
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yes,it is shown in specification.
Lindsay02 said:
The system is Android 4.3?
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yes,i saw it in the specifiations.
Yeah, i just bought this phone one week ago and already got it yesterday (living in germany). I was not sure if it is a good idea to order a smartphone from china but i gave it a try because of the comments here. In addition to that, a friend of mine recommended this site to me. The phone looks nearly exact like the samsung galaxy s4 and its performance is amazing. The hardware is a bit slower than the s4 but it's still pretty fast.All i had to do was changing the language to german now i can use it as i did with my last smartphone.The only negative point so far is that on one side of the frame around the display, there's some space which should not be like that. I think im goin to put some glue there, then it'll be fine.I don't regret having bought this phone and can both recommend the store and the phone.
Ulefone P6+
I'm in the UK and have one too, got it just before new year (delivered within 4 days of ordering) as a replacement for Zopo ZP980 that smashed (rather easily I might add). P6+ is a much better fone albeit a lot bigger, 2 batteries supplied (2800mah) and 1 easily lasts me an entire day with light to moderate use including phone calls, messaging and some Appy Geek app surfing. Note style flip case with window that was also supplied is pretty good, it has hard plastic back, sides and corners that protect it to a degree although I have tested how much for obvious reasons. The fone gets a little warm when used for a while but nowhere near as hot as the ZP980 which felt like it was going to melt so heat dissipation is pretty good . Doesn't seem to have any updater software on it though so doubt if any firmware will be released for it. I haven't rooted it, primarily as there are no discussion threads other than this one so no development work done that I am aware of. I installed Apex launcher and the KitKat theme which looks and works pretty well but I'm sure a proper KitKat port would be better. If you want a big screen fone for less than £200 off contract, you cant go far wrong with this one, just wish someone would write a Rom for it. Hope this post helps anyone undecided about this particular dual sim Chinese fone.
I'm deciding between these 2 tablets at the moment and that display on the Galaxy is really attracting but I can't stand exynos SOCs, I had a note 3 with one and it was horrible. And even if I bought the snapdragon version it's still an ancient 800.
How is this tablet? Any flaws? Can it really handle water? I've heard a lot of bad stories with the z3 phone dieing after going underwater.
And most importantly, can you flash cm on it?
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I'm deciding between these 2 tablets at the moment and that display on the Galaxy is really attracting but I can't stand exynos SOCs, I had a note 3 with one and it was horrible. And even if I bought the snapdragon version it's still an ancient 800.
How is this tablet? Any flaws? Can it really handle water? I've heard a lot of bad stories with the z3 phone dieing after going underwater.
And most importantly, can you flash cm on it?
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i had tab s and this tablet. and i love this this tablet more than tab s.and is the longest i have gone without root or cm.
its lighter,faster and more responsive on stock rom compared the tab s.
more importantly,root for this baby was recently acheived without losing warranty,that keans cm goodness and all.
samdung's tab s 8inch is using exynos with another chip for lte.lack of cm roms as well as losing warranty thanks to knox.
i recomend getting this baby as the only thing u miss will be the screen but the rest of the goodies more than makes up for it!
I had the same shortlist - but my main priority was battery life and much googling suggested that whilst the TabS has good battery life, the Z3 is much better. This appears to be true - I finally charged my Z3 today - 11 days after the last charge!
After handling both Z3 and Tab S instore, I decided to go with the Z3.
I did prefer the screen on the Tab S - much more vibrant colours etc - but the Z3 screen is plenty good in itself.
Also, I preferred the look of the Black Z3 over the white and bronze Tab S.
Finally, I have the Z1 Compact phone and like the magnetic charge port etc.
So, mostly the battery life - but the above points made the Z3 my 1st choice.
Hello,
I had the galaxy tab S 8.4 for around 2 months, then mooved to the Xperia. Some elements to consider:
- The S 8.4 has a slighty bigger screen and also... physical back and home button (thus no need for virtual buttons taking screen place)
- The S 8.4 has better accessories in my opinion (the physical keyboard / case which is fantastic, I would love to see one like that for the Z3 compact)
- The S 8.4 has thinner screen border
Also:
- I had some problems with the 4G/LTE with my tab S... Now everything is ok with my Xperia (that's the main reason why I changed device)
For me battery life is great on both devices (maybe better on the Z3).
So I bought the tab s and tested it for 1 week, the performance is a joke. I wasn't aware that its using the same CPU as the exynos galaxy note 3. I have the note with snapdragon 800 and its flying, I can't believe they put such weak hardware in such a "high end" device. The screen was indeed very nice, but that huge resolution needs better hardware to handle it. Running GTA San Andreas at max settings was a pain, while my note 3 does pretty well at it.
I ordered this tablet and its arriving tomorrow. Will come back with impressions. But so far, I really think this will be better then the galaxy.
I used Tab S for a week or so, before I detected a hardware issue. I immediately returned it. But in that one week, I made up my mind to never ever buy a Samsung device. I purchased the xperia z3tc last week and have been aggresively using it since.
I am completely amazed by the lack of bloatware in this device. It has just the right amount Sony added features and apps which you can find useful or completely ignore. There are no unnecessary modifications to the Android as a platform which you can find annoying. The performance is very consistent. I have a Nexus 4 as my primary phone and enjoy the stock android experience. Although there is a Sony skin on xperia it does a good job of being non-interruptive. I just dont feel the compulsive need to root this device, because it fulfills my needs the way it is.
In short, Samsung's modification to Android make it unusable; stay away from it!
Is your Z3 much easier to read in the sunlight than your Tab S's were? I can use the Tab S in the direct sunlight but it is not really a comfortable experience. Some reviews say the Z3 is better. Have you found that to be true? Thanks!
This tablet is way better then the tab s, way better. Display is probably the only thing better on the galaxy, but the sony one is very good too. Build quality, battery life and especially performance, is miles ahead on the xperia.
The only problem with this device is that it's very confusing to root. I still haven't found a tutorial to backup the drm keys to be able to unlock the bootloader and flash twrp.
Its very annoying.
I rooted the tab s in 10 minutes, and already was running cm12 after an hour I owned it. The community on those forums is much larger and its a shame people dont realize how much better the sony product is.
A small demonstration of the battery performance:
http://i.imgur.com/PW7jBlj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NPDEC8B.jpg
Almost 4 hours of screen on time and still half of battery left. Considering that the capacity isn't very big I think this is pretty good. The tab s barely made it through 5h screen time on my usage. And I still haven't hactivated stamina mode yet.
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A small demonstration of the battery performance:
http://i.imgur.com/PW7jBlj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NPDEC8B.jpg
Almost 4 hours of screen on time and still half of battery left. Considering that the capacity isn't very big I think this is pretty good. The tab s barely made it through 5h screen time on my usage. And I still haven't hactivated stamina mode yet.
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Do you game a lot? In my case the battery last for ever [emoji50]
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Almost 4 hours of screen on time and still half of battery left. Considering that the capacity isn't very big I think this is pretty good. The tab s barely made it through 5h screen time on my usage. And I still haven't hactivated stamina mode yet.
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Can I ask what version of Z3 tablet you are using? My battery life is far less stellar than this, without any games or other demanding usage. I'm on the SGP611 (16gb, no LTE ).
Thanks in advance
What is better on the Alpha, kit Kat or Lolipop?
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Lolipop
Speed and experience better on loli? I don't care for animation and eye candy just want a fluid experience.
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Yes, speed and experience better on Loli but S-find a little bit slower and battery consume more.
I prefer Loli than Kitkat
Thanks, didnt know if I should update to loli since mine is on KK....will give it a try
If you do update to LP you can always Odin back to KK. As much as I do agree that the experience is better on LP, speed and the toned down colors is better on KK.
Thanks, I need to read up on Odin
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In G850A KK is far faster and better in performance and battery consumption
Seems like the alpha does not get alot of attention in dev nor really many posts in this forum.
I recently bought few phones and don't know which one to keep to replace my old 2013 moto x. I got galaxy alpha, oneplus x, and Z5 compact. To be honest none feel as good ergonomically as the moto x. The oneplus is nice, good screen and speed but a Lil big. The z5c is really nice but darn thing si hard to hold without a case. Just way too slippery. And loli on it not very fast in my opinion. Also gets pretty warm with light surfing. Not terribly hot but the hottest of the bunch. The alpha is good all around. Nice size, weight is awesome... So light! Speed seems good. My first time using Samsung, it's not as terrible as I thought would be. I switched to Nova prime and feels good. No SD card is a bummer but not deal breaker. It's also slippery but best grip of bunch without case. Screen is good but a bit yellow and not as sharp next to oneplus.
What do you all think, which would you keep?
Thanks.
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In this thread people tend to answer.... Alpha!
One must bear in mind that there isn't a perfect phone... for someone the screen is small and for others it's the best size, just to take one simple example.
One doesn't need to get approval from others, the phone must fit to one needs, it's simple as that. But, in addition, the Galaxy Alpha is a great all around machine: fast, light and slim, very good screen and camera, good looking design. The battery is enough: it runs in one day with intense use (wifi and some gaming, some calls and sms's) - for me, a phone battery should handle one or two entire days, but not one day and half as I prefer to charge it at home and not to carry the charger with me at work.
The Alpha has high rankings in almost all categories although it's not the fastest or the slimmest or with the best camera. It's a great deal because it is still possible to find at +- 300€. If you put together the specs and this price... it's a bargain!
P.S: you can change screen mode to photography, it is more color accurate (and less yellowish).
Great feedback, thanks. I've narrowed it down to alpha or oneplus x. The screen is much better on x but the alpha just feels good in hand and easy to use. They are both same price here in the states.
I ran benchmark tests and this are results. Am I reading correctly that alpha scores higher?
Battery on alpha could be better and I can't find the larger oem battery anywhere. Do they still sell in your country?
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Great feedback, thanks. I've narrowed it down to alpha or oneplus x. The screen is much better on x but the alpha just feels good in hand and easy to use. They are both same price here in the states.
I ran benchmark tests and this are results. Am I reading correctly that alpha scores higher?
Battery on alpha could be better and I can't find the larger oem battery anywhere. Do they still sell in your country?
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Exynos chipset(alpha) would score higher than Snapdragon(oneplus x).
Alpha exynos variants usually score around 50K in antutu,
but alpha snapdragon variant scores around 40K according to posts in this forum.
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In this thread people tend to answer.... Alpha!
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The Alpha has high rankings in almost all categories although it's not the fastest or the slimmest or with the best camera. It's a great deal because it is still possible to find at +- 300€. If you put together the specs and this price... it's a bargain!
P.S: you can change screen mode to photography, it is more color accurate (and less yellowish).
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Dont forget the sound quality!!!
The good implementation of wolfson chip makes it a HIGH-END flac player.
Hello all,
I am currently looking for a small phone with a headphone jack at around $200-250. The XZ1 is really tempting for $240 with flagship features but my only gripe is the battery capacity and how difficult it is to replace it later on. The moto X4 on the other hand, can be had for $200 which is around the same dimensions as the Sony and easier to have the battery replaced with some mid range specs. What in your opinion is a better value in 2019? How is your xz1 holding up so far?
Bro, to be honest I would have clearly gone again and again with the xz1. Here is their difference in detail : https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8804&idPhone2=8634#diff-*,*,*
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Battery is always important but you get twice performance from the xz1
Also, Chipset, CPU and GPU clearly greater which is the biggest effects on the performance
For the Camera you wont regret it believe me
Battery it is 300mAh less but is clearly the winner (check the link above : Battery life XZ1= 82h endurance rating Moto X4= 64h endurance rating)
for which I can tell you without any root or any Stamina I am seeing 6 hours of screen time and it rocks from the performance.
Moreover, Xz1 was the high end phone of that period when it came out.
The above ones were the details, and I just believe that it is a decent phone for that money, no need to go with another midrange phone since their support is also good. But this is my opinion.
I picked up a brand new XZ1 about two weeks ago from amazon, and I'm floored at how fluid it is, certainly compared to the XZ I was using previously. It's running Android Pie without any obvious issues, and battery life is one and a half days easily, with seven and a half hours screen on time minimum. I paid £199.00 on Amazon, the design is stunning, and it's arguably one of the last great xperias. The only points I would flag are that the camera is competent but not exceptional, and android support will end towards September 2019, although the value for money is tremendous and criticism in the main focuses upon the bezels, which is slightly ridiculous as you can clearly see what you're buying before you commit. It's shockingly good at it's current price......
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Bro, to be honest I would have clearly gone again and again with the xz1. Here is their difference in detail : https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8804&idPhone2=8634#diff-*,*,*
.
Battery is always important but you get twice performance from the xz1
Also, Chipset, CPU and GPU clearly greater which is the biggest effects on the performance
For the Camera you wont regret it believe me
Battery it is 300mAh less but is clearly the winner (check the link above : Battery life XZ1= 82h endurance rating Moto X4= 64h endurance rating)
for which I can tell you without any root or any Stamina I am seeing 6 hours of screen time and it rocks from the performance.
Moreover, Xz1 was the high end phone of that period when it came out.
The above ones were the details, and I just believe that it is a decent phone for that money, no need to go with another midrange phone since their support is also good. But this is my opinion.
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Thank you for the responses. Did you guys update to Pie? If so, how is the battery life now? I've read some user complaints about xz1c that new updates causing battery drain.
I updated to Pie immediately, so it's all I've known on this handset. At the time of writing, I've used about one third of the battery, which has delivered almost three hours' screen on time. Battery drain overnight is almost a flatline (XZ1 handset, UK firmware, February security patch)......
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XZ1 all the way. Better in all aspects. Phones built like a tank with a 3.5 mm jack.
Hey my friends. This is the the thread to post your Battery life. Please describe your usage a bit (Mobile data, wlan,...) and which Resolution, refreshrate... You are using
Will when I get mine and battery has settled
I'm not expecting battery life to be much better than the s22U Snapdragon. The battery is the same. The Snapdragon Gen 2 might be more energy efficient but they also overclocked it. Then they are saying stuff like the Ultra is the new King of Gaming phones with ray tracing and all that yadda yadda blah blah stuff. That all requires a lot of power which will put a strain on the battery. But who knows? If I am wrong and battery life is better with an overclocked chip then I will be pleasantly surprised and delighted.
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I'm not expecting battery life to be much better than the s22U Snapdragon. The battery is the same. The Snapdragon Gen 2 might be more energy efficient but they also overcolocked it. Then they are saying stuff like the Ultra is the new King of Gaming phones with ray tracing and all that yadda yadda blah blah stuff. That all requires a lot of power which will put a strain on the battery. But who knows? If I am wrong and battery life is better with an overclocked chip then I will be pleasantly surprised and delighted.
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If that's the case, it might just be a serious iPhone 14 Pro Max competitor especially considering that right now nothing comes close to iPhones battery life.
Early indications are that it matches the iPhone 14 Pro Max for battery life.
Galaxy S23 Ultra battery life
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Early indications are that it matches the iPhone 14 Pro Max for battery life.
Galaxy S23 Ultra battery life
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That could be insane
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That could be insane
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Indeed.
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Early indications are that it matches the iPhone 14 Pro Max for battery life.
Galaxy S23 Ultra battery life
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That seems... overly optimistic. It's still pretty damn good though.
Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra - Meer megapixels en megahertzen
De Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra lijkt wel heel erg op zijn voorganger, de S22 Ultra. Zijn er toch nog genoeg verschillen en verbeteringen om ervoor te gaan?
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If they improved a battery life that would be bwst part of thia phone for me.
Thats one of the 2 reasons im upgrading, binning rhe exynos and prayi g for better battery.
Coming from a Enynos S22 Ultra I'm expecting a step up in battery and camera.
Also doubling the internal memory makes this a potential two year cycle phone for me
Paul_Deemer said:
I'm not expecting battery life to be much better than the s22U Snapdragon. The battery is the same. The Snapdragon Gen 2 might be more energy efficient but they also overclocked it. Then they are saying stuff like the Ultra is the new King of Gaming phones with ray tracing and all that yadda yadda blah blah stuff. That all requires a lot of power which will put a strain on the battery. But who knows? If I am wrong and battery life is better with an overclocked chip then I will be pleasantly surprised and delighted.
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Many People that testet the Phone said the Battery will be a good percent better also Samsung themselves Talks about a Nummer of good 20-30% so i think we will see good battery life... Better than iPhone? I dont know but i think they will come close
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Early tests show the batterylife is similar to 14 pro max. That's a very good news.
hand-filer said:
Early indications are that it matches the iPhone 14 Pro Max for battery life.
Galaxy S23 Ultra battery life
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lawtq said:
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Still all butthurt about that?
S23 ultra battery will get better with updates
I am interested in the battery life when the display is off.
efkosk said:
I am interested in the battery life when the display is off.
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Standby will also be better sadly mine isnt shipped yet...