I'm wanting to get the unlocked V30 but I noticed that it has band 4(1700) on LTE but not 3G/UMTS and other phones have it listed for 3G and 4G/LTE. Does the V30 not have band for for 3G or since it has it on the 4G side does it apply to 3G as well and it's just not listed?
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Hey guys, I just got my new HTC hero. I'm with AT&T now and having the unlimited 3G data plan. I setup the configurations of APN settings as following:
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
But I only see an "E" at the connection status which I believe indicates EDGE. Can anyone tell me how to get 3G work on this device?
Thanks a lot!!!
I didn't realise the hero was out in the us yet but if it is i don't know why and if it isn't out its because i don't think it surpports american 3g networks i think you can only get 2g.
Yes I got this phone out of the US.
So you mean there's no way at all to get 3G to work on this phone with AT&T or any other carriers?
In its current state the phone does not support the AT&T bands for 3g.
There are rumors of an AT&T version coming October 11th, that would support 3g.
European/Asian version of this phone does not work with US 3G. AT&T's 3G network requires the bands 850 & 1900, while T-mobile's 3G requires the bands 1700 & 2100. European/Asian version supports only the bands 900 & 2100.
Does this mean T-mobile 3G may work on this phone?
T-Mob's 3g should connect to this phone, if you could find a signal, haha.
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/07/03/htc-hero-approved-by-the-fcc-with-att-3g/
Neither T-Mobile US nor AT&T will work with this phone for 3G. The only version of this phone that exists at the moment supports ONLY European 3G. There are rumors of the device coming to AT&T, but nothing confirmed. IF that happens, the new phones would work, but that wouldn't change the fact that the device you have will still only function on Edge.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's true.
It's actually Sprint pal. Also, there was a picture for Tmobile also (this appears to be a rumor).
T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
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T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
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No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
T-mobile US 3G uses 1700 for down and 2100 mhz for uplink. So 2100 alone isn't enough as you need both directions to connect.
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No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
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Thanks! That was very informative, although it totally crushed my dreams of owning a Hero while remaining on the T-Mobile network.
I know telus used to be strictly cdma, however i know as of 2010 they have made some upgrades.
Does anyone know if unlocked phones such as this one:
(add http) cgi.ebay.com/MOTOROLA-DROID-MILESTONE-2-ANDROID-SMARTPHONE-UNLOCKED-/140483114173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item20b57234bd
would fully funcionall work on telus?
Just by looking at the supported bands it won't work on Telus or Bell. It will only work on Rogers but at EDGE speeds. The current supported bands by Telus and Bell are 3G only which are 850/1900 frequency. The only other provider in Canada which has a different one is Wind which is on the AWS 1700 frequency so T-Mobile 3G phones should work.
Telus and Bell Canada are not GSM because that refers to 2G which is a legacy network they do not have. They are 3G which all the 2G providers such as AT&T have upgraded to. Their CDMA network is still there running in parallel for now.
They use the exact same 3G system and frequencies as AT&T. So any AT&T 3G phone will also work on Bell or Telus. They do not have the legacy network so 2G phones will not work. Only 3G phones.
To put it another more technical way:
They support 3G UMTS/HSPA 850MHz and/or 1900MHz
They do NOT support 2G GSM/EDGE on any frequency
I know the Jetstream was designed to be run on AT&T and Rogers, but I am curious if it is possible to flash a radio to enable usage of T-Mobile's HSPA network, much like the Samsung Galaxy Note has been enabled to, as seen here.
Can any of the amazing Devs out there shed some light on this?
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I know the Jetstream was designed to be run on AT&T and Rogers, but I am curious if it is possible to flash a radio to enable usage of T-Mobile's HSPA network, much like the Samsung Galaxy Note has been enabled to, as seen here.
Can any of the amazing Devs out there shed some light on this?
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jdavis08, Simple answer is yes. It is a standard 2G / 3G / LTE (AT&T / AWS band) phone. So you can use it on ANY 2G / 3G / LTE network with a SIM. But you may need to break the SIM Lock on any handset.
Just wanted to clarify. The Jetstream is 2G/3G/LTE /capable, 2G (GSM): 850/900/1800/1900MHz, 3G (UMTS/HSPA): 850/1900/2100, and LTE: 700mhz & AWS-1700/2100.
Currently, T-Mobile only uses the AWS for their HSPA+ network, not LTE (from what I understand, AWS will be transitioned for LTE and 1900mhz refarmed for 3G/4G early 2013) - and if I'm not mistaken, the HSPA+ is only supported by the "3G" band of this device, not the "LTE"
So - to make a long story short. I am a T-Mobile subscriber with various "4G" phones from T-Mobile. Their 4G only works if the phone has a radio with AWS for HSPA as T-Mobile (unlike AT&T) does not use the 1900mhz for their HSPA (yet). I own this tablet.. It has been SIM unlocked and it simply does not get anything above EDGE... and I live near and visit major cities in Washington State, Seattle/Bellevue/Tacoma, which definitely have TMo's 4G coverage.
I know I should just cool my jets until TMo rolls out the network upgrades, as I have no interest in joining AT&T. I was just curious if there was some way to "trick" the phone to use the AWS frequencies for HSPA, like the Galaxy Note has been made to do as the radio specs are identical.
I know that the Note was enabled to do this by flashing another radio. Support is minimal for the Jetstream these days... so I was just reaching out.
Thanks guys
Hi there,
I've got a Verizon HTC One Max. I rooted and put CM12 on my device, and it seems that some of the network bands aren't compatible with this device. After doing a bit of research, I noticed that the LTE Bands supported by this device are the ones used on my Canadian cellular carrier; However, when I select those types of networks to be used on the device, I get no signal picked up. I'm currently using "WCDMA only" as my selected network band for the device, as none of the GSM, LTE, or CDMA options work. It seems that it only picks up the 3G and 4G bands, but no LTE or GSM.
Now I don't know if this is because of the type of device I purchased (like I said, I found a way to get service to the phone through WCDMA), but I was hoping that maybe I could utilize the LTE network in the area instead of using the awful 3G and 4G speeds.
I'm on Virgin Mobile's network, which is a partner network of Bell Mobility Canada. Their supported network bands are:
"Although both are different and independent from one another, both the CDMA and HSPA+ networks use the 850 and 1900 MHz frequencies. Bell's LTE network uses Band 4 Advanced Wireless Services (AWS 1700/2100 MHz) in most coverage areas and Band 7 (2600 MHz) in a few areas."
The Verizon HTC One Max is compatible with the following:
Verizon: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps and LTE: 700 MHz
So looking at this, I might be an idiot - it looks like on second observation, maybe they're not compatible. I figured I'd post this just to double check anyway for good measure. Anyway, if you've got anything to provide, that'd be great.
Thanks.
I have 2 Motorola Moto E (Verizon) Smartphones
I have unlocked them to work on GSM networks
The first one was able to get LTE (4G) Connection
The second one is stuck on EDGE (2G) Connection no matter what I do
*Both are connected on the same network with the same APN settings*
Please help me to make the second Moto E get LTE connection
Are you sure that the one that has LTE is really the Verizon model? Zain uses GSM 900, HSPA 2100, and LTE Band 3. The Verizon model does not have HSPA 2100 or LTE Band 3, as it only has the 3G and 4G bands used in North America. Does it have a Verizon logo on the back of the device?
If you bought it secondhand, the person you bought it from might have done this to enable LTE Band 3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/guide-enable-lte-bands-surnia-t3351673
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Are you sure that the one that has LTE is really the Verizon model? Zain uses GSM 900, HSPA 2100, and LTE Band 3. The Verizon model does not have HSPA 2100 or LTE Band 3, as it only has the 3G and 4G bands used in North America. Does it have a Verizon logo on the back of the device?
If you bought it secondhand, the person you bought it from might have done this to enable LTE Band 3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/guide-enable-lte-bands-surnia-t3351673
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Yes it has Verizon logo and 4G/LTE logo on the back
It's a secondhand though
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