Does anyone get VoLTE working on O2 or Three in the UK? Does the phone show any VoLTE icon on the notification bar or switch in settings?
Hi,
I've just got a Mate 10 (standard) ALP-L29 8..0.0.128 (C363) running on Three UK
Sadly neither Volte nor VoWifi work with Three
I'm hoping a rebrand to an European version might make it work, but am at a loss to know which version is possible and if it will even work.
Any advice appreciated
thanks
Which region do you buy the device from?
Bought from Wonda in Hong Kong who rebranded it to the above
It does not work on mine either. I am using ALP-AL00 8.0.0.126(SP2C00).
I am using ALP-AL00 8.0.0.126(SP2C00) and not working either.
I'm in the UK. on the three network running BLA-L09 8.0.0.124 (c782)... sometimes it pops up in the top left corner "Wi-Fi calling" ..... is this the same thing ??
evantkh said:
Does anyone get VoLTE working on O2 or Three in the UK? Does the phone show any VoLTE icon on the notification bar or switch in settings?
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If you mean wifi calling, I think it may be working on my O2 branded Mate 10 pro. Had to enable in the O2 app first.
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No, VoLTE means not dropping to 3G when making calls. Does the signal drop to 3G when making calls without WiFi?
Does the signal drop to 3G when making calls without WiFi?
When making a call with three it automatically drops to 3g , I do get WiFi calling when my network signal is weak
On Three UK on Mate 10 pro. Not bought from Three. However on Vodafone VoLTE works... 3 claims ThreeinTouch app supports Supervoice/VoLTE though no options appear for me. Send a like and/or comment here on this tweet to Three UK. https://twitter.com/AminYacarEvaday/status/953734315560579073
And on here
https://twitter.com/AminYacarEvaday/status/953735074264043521
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Just got a Dual SIM Mate 10 Pro, and I have VoLTE working on Three UK.
I did a fair bit of research in to VoLTE / Wifi Calling (lots of lurking on these forms) before I got it, as access to SuperVoice would have been a dealbreaker if I couldn't get it (and other networks' full 4g spectrum).
It's worth understanding how Three currently structure their spectrum in the UK. I did a lot of head scratching when I used to have an iPhone, as despite Three texting me to say I was in a SuperVoice 4g area, my calls mostly dropped down to 3g.
Three have lots of high frequency 3g and 4g spectrum. They also have some low frequency 4g spectrum (band 20, 800Mhz), but there's a bit less of that.
Three's SuperVoice (VoLTE) only runs on the low frequency 4g 800mhz. The high frequency 4g does not carry VoLTE.
So - if you're on the high frequency 4g band (which is set by Three to be the first choice for locking on to) and you make a call, you need to get bumped to another band. If you're in range of 3g, and get so much as a whiff of it, it'll put you on that. If you can't get any 3g, but you can get lower frequency 4g (it travels further / deeper), it'll allow you on to that band and then - and only then - will you be able to make a VoLTE call.
Maybe one day Three will open up their higher frequency 4g to VoLTE if they restructure their spectrum, but I speculate that for the moment with the spectrum structured as it is, there isn't the justification for taking up high frequency 4g bandwidth with VoLTE call traffic, if there's increasingly unused 3g capacity sat alongside it. If however a phone is out of range of the high frequency 3g signal, the phone can use the low frequency 4g VoLTE for calling and, as Three put it, 'banish the indoor blackspots'.
My Mate 10 Pro is working in exactly the same way as my old iPhone used to - in that if there's any 3g whatsoever, it uses that for calls, often dropping to 3g from the higher frequency 4g (that doesn't allow VoLTE). It's only if you're somewhere where there's no 3g but there is 800mhz 4g, that you can use VoLTE. That makes testing it really hard! I've only had the Mate 10 for 2 days, and managed 2 VoLTE calls in a rural location. Near home I don't see VoLTE at all as there's very decent high frequency 3g coverage.
I also get the Wifi calling option in settings, however I haven't tested that yet, as I haven't been anywhere in the 2 days of phone ownership where mobile reception has been poor and there's been accessible Wifi to fall back on. There is no VoLTE toggle in settings, nor an icon in the status bar - the phone just quietly made a call over 4g (checked by using the 4g icon next to the signal bars, and using the settings>system>about phone>status>network menu whilst on a call to see whether the mobile network type remained 4g).
I'm hoping to test VoLTE on other networks shortly using my 2nd sim slot, however as the networks only allow VoLTE on contract it's not just a case of trying it out with a free PAYG SIM, unfortunately.
In terms of my phone, I ordered a Mate 10 Pro Dual sim Asian/International version (C636), that didn't seem to work with VoLTE (although as above it's hard to test with Three). If I'd have known that I could have bought a single SIM UK version and flashed new firmware to get dual sim I would have done to get a warranty, but when buying it I incorrectly thought maybe the hardware was different and I need 2 sims... I rebranded it to the Euro version (C432) and flashed Euro firmware, and I've since managed two VoLTE calls on Three UK. I'm hoping that other networks work as well... In hope of it doing so is partly why I bought the phone, and there are lots of reviews (that smell a bit of being paid for) that state Huawei has worked with networks to pre-install the VoLTE / Wifi Calling settings in to the Euro firmware.
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The Pro was a Three exclusive so even if you buy a unbranded one it downloads Three firmware which allows Volte, the standard Mate 10 isn't a Three handset so wont have Volte
I don't think the unbranded phone will download Three firmware if it is on different generic firmware such as the AL00 model. However, VoLTE does have GSMA standard and iPhone has made VoLTE work around the world no matter where you buy the device.
That means Huawei is not actually showing the VoLTE toggle on Three. Based on the configuration files on the firmware of the ALP-AL00 model, I think not showing the VoLTE toggle is happening on O2 UK as well but I never get it working.
@evantkh
Yes, it seems that way, I made a few more calls over Three's 800mhz VoLTE yesterday so it's definitely working in line with Three's priority settings, there's just no toggle or icon. I also monitored using the LTE Monitor app to check the band and in all cases I was on 800mhz before making the call, maybe as it was the only band it could receive. I'm quite impressed with how seamlessly it works.
I don't have the same region as you, have you tried a rebrand and firmware flash to Euro? Mine didn't seem to work on the non Euro version, with the limited amount of testing I did before I flashed Euro firmware.
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Also, I can confirm WiFi calling works as well on Three. I saw that working yesterday, briefly.
I'm interested to know that you haven't seen VoLTE working on O2 - I was probably going to get my 2nd sim with them.
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It's not worth re-branding and firmware flashing to Euro.
1. The hardware of AL00 model and L29 model are different at least the bands and possibly the security chip as well.
2. I will lose Huawei Pay functionality for NFC mobile payments in China.
3. I will only use O2 for a few months more as I am going to leave the UK in a few months.
Sounds fair enough, I changed region of my BLA L29 but not model. I definitely wouldn't have wanted to lose other functionality.
I've seen people say they've changed from an L09 to L29 but not the A00.
Err they don't stock the standard Mate 10 so the branded firmware doesn't exist
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Hi all,
I'm in the UK and on the EE network using their 4G, and the Speed 7 downloads stuff really fast when I'm out and about. 4G when it works is really amazing... sitting on a train watching read time HD video streaming without caching is definitely miles better than 3G and to me is a strong selling point of this phone.
However, EE in the UK do charge a lot for data so I have been experimenting with other providers. I now have Three, O2, and Vodaphone PAYG SIMs. None of them have any credit on them but that should be enough to check signal... and where I am at the moment, it is not too impressive, I'm not getting 4G reception from any of them except EE - the rest are giving me 3G. I do realise that with this phone, only your chosen data SIM will get 4G, and the one in the other SIM slot will only do GSM, so I did make sure that data was turned on in the right SIM if I was using two and turned on mobile data etc.
In theory, the speed seven should be perfect for the UK, it has Band 20, Band 7 and Band 3 which should cover all of these providers. Although there are radio utilities out there that are good on signal strength, I haven't found one that tells me what Band I am actually using on 4G. (so if you know...)
So, no matter where you are in the world, I'm interested to know what you're connecting to... what 4G provider do you use, and more importantly, what bands are they on? This would be for the 'International' version of this phone which has the B20/B7/B3 radio. My phone actually reports it is enabled for 4G B1, B2, B3, B4, B7, B17 and B20 but I think that may reflect the different radio modules that can be installed, not the real hardware situation.
thanks in advance!!
Hello,
I am waiting my speed 7, it will be deliver in the next days. But if you want to know what frequency you use, try to disable 2 of 3 bands in engineer setting.
I am from France, we have also the 3 bands Band 20, Band 7 and Band 3 used by french operator, with the 2600 mhz.
I hope, I will give you a feedback at the end of the week.
Kind regards.
Salut! The problem is half the providers in the UK sell 4G as a 'premium' service, so it appears unless I activate some of the SIMs (for a pile of money) then I won't be able to validate the specific 4G service they communicate in 3G first and then switch only for selected customers... who have paid.
I recently loaded up the 'Three' SIM with some credit(Hutchinson telecom - maybe it would be under that brand in France) and their 4G service seems to be fine as well. Maybe not as good as EE for coverage or speed, but certainly not too bad. 'Three' use Band 20 and Band 3 and EE use Band 7 as well, so that's not very conclusive... yet! I have also been running the phone in dual SIM mode, using both at once, and it works perfectly. You have to choose which SIM to use for each service, and it will (as any Chinese phone) be unable to run 4G at once on both, so you have to choose one of them for calls, one for data, and one for texts. That does not stop you getting incoming calls,texts etc on both lines etc (just sets the default for outgoing) It is a real novelty having that... and two signal strength meters!
I like your idea of turning off the bands in engineer mode, it is not obvious to me where to do that, so if you can point me in the right direction that would be great... I'm using the engineering mode tool...
PS I hope you like the phone! Now that the software is mostly fixed, I like it a lot, you need the latest OTA update to make it usable, so do run the wireless update wizard! Maybe not top quality hardware, but much cheaper, and has a good screen, good speed, big battery and 3Gb memory ... and of course the dual SIM! (Camera, GPS are a bit suspect)...
This might help:
http://www.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=1308&MNC=CING
http://www.sensorly.com/map/4G/GB/Great_Britain/O2/lte_23410#|coverage
Thanks... Bit out of date. The thing I am interested in knowing is how much truth is there in what the phone claims to do versus what it actually does
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Hello,
just a late feedback, but i have reached with speed test 65mb dl, 25 ul, in 4G , at frequency 2600 mhz , very well indeed.
I got a Z5 compact for my wife and she is on T Mobile and I would like to know if VoLTE on band 12 will work or do I need to flash a specific rom? The phone is an import with Greek customization. That is what I got from the eBay seller.
My z5c works on band 12 and has VoLTE in the quick settings but I suspect that is due to it running a Taiwan firmware. Doesn't matter because it doesn't work. Not sure how to get around that until Sony certifies with TMO, if ever. My z5p dual sim doesn't even have that option at all. One thing I have noticed is band 12 use is mostly non existent where I live. This thing seems to fight tooth & nail to stay on band 4 at the weakest signal rather than pick band 12. But my dual sim z5p on both TMO and ATT (I use both providers) the LTE doesn't seem to be that good at my house and I get much better reception on HSPA.
ATT will ONLY work upto 3g. You will see an H on top the signal bar which indicates a Enhanced 3g speed also know as HSPA speed connection. I have tried 2 new sim cards. I have tried several APN's I have tried all updates and a reset. No 4G and no 5G on ATT. Unless someone can tell me something new, this phone will not FULLY work on ATT. Text works. Calls work. Internet is sort of hit and miss with decent signal but again rather slow.
T Mobile will ONLY work upto 4g. No Volte although it seems to have the capability of Volte it cant not work with Tmobile Volte because it seems the cell bands are not compatible. Text work. Internet works rather fast, Good solid signal however no 5G and no Volte due to incompatible cell bands.
I did research on this subject and found that the ATT cell bands for everything including 5G do seem to be compatible with the 7 pro but again, it does not FULLY work oddly
I also did research on Tmobile cell bands and the bands for 5G are not even close to being compatible. Volte is also non compatible. 4g is compatible and works..
That is disappointing to hear as I have been looking into this phone and assumed it would have full usage on ATT.
round2 said:
ATT will ONLY work upto 3g. You will see an H on top the signal bar which indicates a Enhanced 3g speed also know as HSPA speed connection. I have tried 2 new sim cards. I have tried several APN's I have tried all updates and a reset. No 4G and no 5G on ATT. Unless someone can tell me something new, this phone will not FULLY work on ATT. Text works. Calls work. Internet is sort of hit and miss with decent signal but again rather slow.
T Mobile will ONLY work upto 4g. No Volte although it seems to have the capability of Volte it cant not work with Tmobile Volte because it seems the cell bands are not compatible. Text work. Internet works rather fast, Good solid signal however no 5G and no Volte due to incompatible cell bands.
I did research on this subject and found that the ATT cell bands for everything including 5G do seem to be compatible with the 7 pro but again, it does not FULLY work oddly
I also did research on Tmobile cell bands and the bands for 5G are not even close to being compatible. Volte is also non compatible. 4g is compatible and works..
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I got volte to work on tmobile for anyone who is reading this later. Fairly easy to do after the pain of figuring it out was over. My data also fluctuates between 4G and LTE (4G+) as well.
juanappleseed said:
I got volte to work on tmobile for anyone who is reading this later. Fairly easy to do after the pain of figuring it out was over. My data also fluctuates between 4G and LTE (4G+) as well.
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How did you get T-Mobile to activate the service on your phone? They just tell me it's not compatible.
am1128 said:
How did you get T-Mobile to activate the service on your phone? They just tell me it's not compatible.
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[Guide] Easy method to Enable Volte (with root) on Tmobile and maybe other networks on Android 11 and maybe 10
So first you have to root. I used twrp and magisk. There are guides on how to do that you can find by searching around. Then once you do that, follow these directions, What I did was manually entered all of these setprop commands below, on the...
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Sorry, thought you were asking about setting up Volte on the Zenfone 7, so I pasted that link.
To use this phone in TMobile, no special activation is needed. Just a tmobile sim that can handle voice / data.
Evening all,
Just a bit of advice, I'm looking to upgrade from my g8x to the v60. As the european/international version is virtually impossible to find, I'm looking at the unlocked USA variants of this phone. Does anyone have this model in the UK and can confirm that it works on 3g/4g OK? I've found different sources stating that some of the bands aren't present in the USA variants - not bothered about 5g, just as long as I can get 3 and 4g on o2 it's fine. Also tried frequency checker but it doesn't seem to list the v60 on there for some reason...
OK so I've just come across the website Kimovil, this seems to be more helpful - looks like the only one that is going to be any use is the Canadian variant of the phone, the USA versions from t mobile/at+t have most of the bands missing for use in the UK. Explains why they go for far less online!
Interesting have you got a link to that site or have a link of where to buy one that will be good for UK
Also looking to buy a v60 to use on the UK
Kimovil.com
Not really found anything other than links for the USA versions of the phone, they don't seem to have the correct bands for most of the UK networks. I'm just watching eBay and seeing what comes up...
I bought an ATT model, unlocked from Ebay. I live in The Netherlands and my provider, Simyo, uses the KPN network with 800mhz (band 20) and 1800mhz (band 3) for 4G/LTE. After inserting my sim everything worked right away. Calls, data, no problems at all. My provider does not support 5G yet
Edit: be aware that you will not receive updates like android 11 (if on 10) or security updates on the V600AM.
I bought the V600AM, I'm in the UK and I can confirm that it works with O2. The only issue is that phone will switch to 2G when making voice calls,soon after hang up it will switch back to 4G LTE.
poemadevil said:
I bought an ATT model, unlocked from Ebay. I live in The Netherlands and my provider, Simyo, uses the KPN network with 800mhz (band 20) and 1800mhz (band 3) for 4G/LTE. After inserting my sim everything worked right away. Calls, data, no problems at all. My provider does not support 5G yet
Edit: be aware that you will not receive updates like android 11 (if on 10) or security updates on the V600AM.
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OK that's useful to know, I'm still not sure about 3g support as where I live in the depths of rural Cornwall we seem to struggle a bit with 4g - it's OK when I'm outside but indoors tends to drop back to 3g, I can use wifi at least. Thanks for the info though
Karol75 said:
I bought the V600AM, I'm in the UK and I can confirm that it works with O2. The only issue is that phone will switch to 2G when making voice calls,soon after hang up it will switch back to 4G LTE.
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Yeah, the 3g coverage is a thing for me as I tend to only get 4g when outside, it reverts to 3g indoors and I think that may be an issue for me with this phone as it needs to be a daily driver - as far as I can see the USA variants don't support the right bands for UK use....
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Yeah, the 3g coverage is a thing for me as I tend to only get 4g when outside, it reverts to 3g indoors and I think that may be an issue for me with this phone as it needs to be a daily driver - as far as I can see the USA variants don't support the right bands for UK use....
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You could force the phone to be on "LTE Only" with an app from Gstore,but then you won't be able to receive and make voice calls. Not ideal, but considering this phone is from a US network,it will never be 100% compatible with UK Networks. If only someone would find a solution to root it!!!
Which bands use for UK?
Calls will be via 3g if your region coverage that bands.
JigsawMobile said:
Which bands use for UK?
Calls will be via 3g if your region coverage that bands.
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Yes its supported, before buying ask seller to upgrade to android 11.
Hi,
has anyone experience with this Phone in the US ?
I having a -Mobile (USA) card in it and have mostly no Cell service, and if a Cell service than only 2 G
Thanks for your feedback
looking at
Sony Xperia 1 IV - Full phone specifications
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T-Mobile network
Learn about coverage and technologies of the T-Mobile network, including a 5G and 4G LTE Coverage map, device compatibility, and more.
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Cheat sheet: which 4G LTE bands do AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint use in the USA?
What are the 4G LTE bands supported by AT&T in 2019? Do they differ from the 4G LTE bands that T-Mobile uses? And what about Verizon Wireless massive 4G LTE network and its supported frequency bands? And where is Sprint left in the 4G LTE picture? What Verizon bands are currently in use? What...
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most of the things should work
I did look on this specs first, after I got it seems like there is something additional. There is one spot I get a super connection but 90% of the time weak or no Service at all. I have tried many phones before but none of them even had such bad reception. And there supposed to be even the Tmobile 5G 71 Band. It looks to me someone sold a restricted fu.... Asia version without mentioning it
go to settings and all the way down you should see your model number. Considering that USA specific is not out yet you most likely have asian one which is XQ-CT72. EU one is CT54.
But those should work on t-mobile network, most of the bands are there. And those are low bands, so longer range.
It runs at limited feature support. Sony disables VoWIfi for US models and many other features including Bluetooth features such as Bluetooth meta data.
Sony blames T-Mobile for limited feature set. you will need to root your phone to hack up the build to enable VoWifi and other features.
This feud between Sony and T-Mobile has been going on for the past 10 years and Sony still playing ignorant to US market.
if you don't care about such limited feature set, Xperia 1 IV should still work on TMO
I just got my phone yesterday and realized the same thing happened to me, I didn't have service where I used to but I managed to get it working by: going to settings, then network and internet, then Sims, scroll down to access point names. And two options should pop up, I changed mine to T-mobile US LTE.. And restart, which worked for me.
hnt20 said:
It runs at limited feature support. Sony disables VoWIfi for US models and many other features including Bluetooth features such as Bluetooth meta data.
Sony blames T-Mobile for limited feature set. you will need to root your phone to hack up the build to enable VoWifi and other features.
This feud between Sony and T-Mobile has been going on for the past 10 years and Sony still playing ignorant to US market.
if you don't care about such limited feature set, Xperia 1 IV should still work on TMO
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Are you saying the the imported version of the Xperia 1 iv does support VoWifi or neither one will on any USA carrier
kuau said:
Are you saying the the imported version of the Xperia 1 iv does support VoWifi or neither one will on any USA carrier
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that is correct, the issue is more related to Sony software rather than just the region. the only way to get VoWifi is to root your phone and disable sony software limitations
hnt20 said:
that is correct, the issue is more related to Sony software rather than just the region. the only way to get VoWifi is to root your phone and disable sony software limitations
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Is there a guide for this? Not having wifi calling is the main thing holding me back from pre-ordering
Kylewolf said:
Is there a guide for this? Not having wifi calling is the main thing holding me back from pre-ordering
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yeah this guide should work, its for the Xperia 1 III, I would think it would work for the IV, I just switched to goggleFI to get Wifi calling with out having to do anything.
Getting VoLTE and VoWiFi on unlisted carriers by flashing mbn file
I live in Canada and I have a BC72 (Asian version). I am struggling to get VoLTE and VoWiFi working. I know that mbn file is the key to getting IMS support and sony seems to block some carrier mbn files (only mbn in sales areas are available). So...
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I have been using the XQ-CT72 here in michigan on GoogleFi, which is basically t-mobile, in my town where I live, I get 5G without doing anything to the phone, but with that said, I work 20 miles out in rural area and apparently from my research tmobile use band 71 for 5G in rural areas, I can get LTE+ but no 5g at work, my Pixel 6 pro can get 5g but its like 1 to 2 bars that`s it, but with my sony I get full bars of better signal on LTE+ with my Sony, since the Sony is missing the n71 band for 5G, but I`m fine with what I get, since at work I` m on wifi anyways, I`m happy with my purchase, I originally had the US model on pre-order and the release date was pushed back to Sept. 22-23, so I cancelled my pre-order and bought a new one on ebay for 1069.00 compared to sony wanted 1599.00 for US mode
EDIT: I ended up send it back to seller, the 5g icon was not really 5g, if you're in the USA I would wait and buy the USA version, which I pre-ordered from Sony website, expected ship date is 22-23
moving to GoogleFI is the best option to use this phone in the USA. it will utilize Tmobile USA and have all feature enables.
Can anyone comment on Verizon compatibility with this device?
If really like to save some money and not buy the bootloader locked na version (if locked is still a thing)
Thanks
svntsvn said:
Can anyone comment on Verizon compatibility with this device?
If really like to save some money and not buy the bootloader locked na version (if locked is still a thing)
Thanks
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Only way to know for sure it to just buy it and try it for your usecases. Just buy it somewhere with a good return policy. I bought mine on Ebay with a 30-day return policy and so far it works fine on AT&T. Just make sure you do the trick where you disable dual-sim. (Google the details, it's somewhere here on XDA or on Reddit).
I bought my USA variant phone a week ago, and everything on T-Mobile works with the exception of Wi-Fi calling. The only alternative we have is to stop using T-Mobile and switch over to Google fi which does support Wi-Fi calling. Other than that my phone is flying super smooth and with fast performance like I've never believed compared to my old LG v30 Plus. I'm definitely impressed with this phone.
svntsvn said:
Can anyone comment on Verizon compatibility with this device?
If really like to save some money and not buy the bootloader locked na version (if locked is still a thing)
Thanks
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I'm using mine (XQ-CT62) in the Verizon network. Reception is not the best in the area where I'm but it works with no problem
Is that a coverage thing most likely, or the device itself? Rural area?
svntsvn said:
Is that a coverage thing most likely, or the device itself? Rural area?
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From a technical point of view, the phone should work on all carriers in the USA without issues, (with the exception of the Sony/T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling issue that forces those who want Wi-Fi calling to switch to Google Fi, Mint Mobile, and other MVNOs).
Whatever service is in the area should work. Verizon will provision your phone to work with it's network. CDMA based carriers are supported per Sony's phone settings, so I would just go for it.