Hi wanna buy US998 by US.Cellular , but it has Bad Esn.
Will it work with international carrier?
Or better take LS998 with 128gb?
tNx
Neither is a particularly great option.
LS998 is intended for CDMA+some roaming in the US, and will lack a bunch of important international bands. Look up your carrier and see if all the important bands are supported.
ESN blacklisting is usually per-network, but at the very least, US carriers might be cooperating these days and sharing lists (to combat phone thieves). The phone is US Cellular, which I think roams into most carriers; chance of being universally blacklisted is even higher. I don't think there's any centralized international registry for now, but you're potentially setting yourself up for frustration down the line.
My suggestion is be patient and wait, assuming the LS998 doesn't have you covered.
Septfox said:
Neither is a particularly great option.
LS998 is intended for CDMA+some roaming in the US, and will lack a bunch of important international bands. Look up your carrier and see if all the important bands are supported.
ESN blacklisting is usually per-network, but at the very least, US carriers might be cooperating these days and sharing lists (to combat phone thieves). The phone is US Cellular, which I think roams into most carriers; chance of being universally blacklisted is even higher. I don't think there's any centralized international registry for now, but you're potentially setting yourself up for frustration down the line.
My suggestion is be patient and wait, assuming the LS998 doesn't have you covered.
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All of them havesome of mine frequencies GSM 900/1800 and LTE Bands 3 / 7 / 20 / 38 and technically will work fine in my country.
I'm just asking about programm locking to work with anothers sim cards.
Also ESN information checking never using here...
SHAMJOB said:
Hi wanna buy US998 by US.Cellular , but it has Bad Esn.
Will it work with international carrier?
Or better take LS998 with 128gb?
tNx
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All the US998 -- whether U.S. Cellular or "open market" -- are SIM card unlocked/network unlocked. US998 comes in V30 (64GB) and V30+ (128GB)
Stay away from Sprint LS998. It IS SIM card locked to Sprint. For the VS998 if it has 128GB, then that's really a V30+. Sprint also sells V30 LS998 with 64GB. Unless you are a Sprint customer, stay away from all Sprint phones. They are just a big problem and most that show up here in these forums also seem to have ESN issues, besides being SIM card locked.
Any phone with U.S. ESN issues (not paying the bill, not fulfilling contract, stolen, lost, whatever) will often work in other countries. I am not advocating that in any way, I am just giving information. The U.S. blacklist database is shard by the major U.S. carriers. Most European carriers couldn't care less. BUT if the phone is SIM card locked/network locked, that's not going away just because it's being used in another country.
+1 on staying away from the ls998 model. I bought my phone outright and they still won't unlock it. Has to be on the network for 50 days.
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All the US998 -- whether U.S. Cellular or "open market" -- are SIM card unlocked/network unlocked. US998 comes in V30 (64GB) and V30+ (128GB)
Stay away from Sprint LS998. It IS SIM card locked to Sprint. For the VS998 if it has 128GB, then that's really a V30+. Sprint also sells V30 LS998 with 64GB. Unless you are a Sprint customer, stay away from all Sprint phones. They are just a big problem and most that show up here in these forums also seem to have ESN issues, besides being SIM card locked.
Any phone with U.S. ESN issues (not paying the bill, not fulfilling contract, stolen, lost, whatever) will often work in other countries. I am not advocating that in any way, I am just giving information. The U.S. blacklist database is shard by the major U.S. carriers. Most European carriers couldn't care less. BUT if the phone is SIM card locked/network locked, that's not going away just because it's being used in another country.
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oh man thanks a lot!
And what about VS996 on Verizon could you say?
It also sim unlocked yeah? It have LTE1900 (B2), LTE1800 (B3), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE700 (B13), LTE800 (B20), LTE1700/2100 (B66) - 3 of mine bands
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oh man thanks a lot!
And what about VS996 on Verizon could you say?
It also sim unlocked yeah? It have LTE1900 (B2), LTE1800 (B3), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE700 (B13), LTE800 (B20), LTE1700/2100 (B66) - 3 of mine bands
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Verizon has not been able to SIM lock/network lock their "postpaid" (contract) LTE phones since a legal agreement with the FCC in 2012. They had to agree to that to get more LTE spectrum. They are able to still lock "prepaid" phones, but the LG V30 is not a prepaid phone.
This is not a secret, it's well-publicized and has been the Verizon policy for over 5 years now (enforced by agreement with the FCC). But you will still find people who remember the how Verizon used to be and they haven't kept up with anything cell phone related in the past 5 years apparently. Or they confuse bootloader lock with SIM card/network lock.
These people will argue about this, but it's plainly written on Verizon's website. Over in the Verizon Droid Turbo forum (2014) there were lots of arguments about it and then thread after thread of "Wow, it works on AT&T!" "Wow, it works on T-mobile" -- like it was news -- even though we plainly told people Verizon LTE phones were NO LONGER SIM CARD LOCKED.
Even in 2016, we were getting new threads opened, about working with other carriers. One guy said he got the misinformation from ANOTHER website, so rushed to XDA to tell us the Verizon Droid Turbo was really SIM card unlocked and worked on AT&T. I then showed him threads from 2014 here on XDA (and even YouTube videos) clearly stating all Verizon LTE phones are SIM card unlocked, including the then-new Droid Turbo. He should have started his information search on XDA first!
Verizon LTE phones are no longer SIM card/network locked and have not been locked for 5 years.
https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy
Postpay Device Unlocking Policy
We do not lock most phones or tablets that are activated with our postpay service, either during or after the term of your service contract or Device Payment Plan installment sales agreement.
We do not lock our 4G LTE devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier.
We do not lock our 3G devices, other than our non-iPhone 3G World Devices. The simple code to program such 3G devices for use with another carrier is either “000000” or “123456.” If the user guide for your device does not provide instructions to access the programming menu, you can contact us at *611 from your Verizon Wireless phone, or (800)922-0204, for assistance.
The SIM cards used in our non-iPhone 3G World Devices are locked. We willl unlock those SIM cards at your request.
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The FCC forced them into that agreement, because Verizon really abused their position as the #1 carrier at the time.
Whereas AT&T and Sprint are still allowed to SIM card/network lock phones.
Related
U.S. Cellular Now Selling The LG V30 and V30+ Android Flagships
http://androidandme.com/2017/10/news/lg-v30-lg-v30-plus-available-u-s-cellular/
https://www.phonedog.com/2017/10/06/us-cellular-launches-lg-v30-lg-v30-plus
https://m.gsmarena.com/lg_v30_and_v30_are_both_available_today_at_us_cellular-news-27599.php
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/1...sprint-offering-lg-v30-alongside-regular-v30/
Told you Sprint didn't have an exclusive on the LG V30+. I knew by the way Sprint worded that bogus press release, which everybody fell for.
Today is October 6. U.S. Cellular is even selling it BEFORE Sprint!
Technical Specifications
4G LTE Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/20/25/66, EVDO Rev.A
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If I buy the v30+ from us cellular or Sprint, do you think I can use it for t mobile network with the same coverage as if I bought it from T-Mobile themselves?
rduong said:
If I buy the v30+ from us cellular or Sprint, do you think I can use it for t mobile network with the same coverage as if I bought it from T-Mobile themselves?
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It seems to have the same bands as the T-Mobile version minus band 71.
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If I buy the v30+ from us cellular, do you think I can use it for t mobile network with the same coverage as if I bought it from T-Mobile themselves?
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AliLaPointe said:
It seems to have the same bands as the T-Mobile version minus band 71.
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Yes, what U.S. Cellular is selling does not have LTE band 71. But while this is the US998, it's not the official carrier unlocked US998. (When you buy this phone from U.S. Cellualr, pay in full, upon request U.S. Cellular will unlock it for you to use on other carriers.)
The official carrier unlocked version has not been "announced" by LG yet -- even though it's listed on B&H website, and we all know it's coming. When it's announced and released (probably end of October, according to B&H website), we are hoping
LG will have filed an FCC amendment to enable LTE band 71 on the US998. An amendment can be filed less than 2 weeks from actual release.
Or that with root, we can enable that band by flashing T-mobile radio over it.
The official carrier unlocked version will not need to have a carrier unlock it, of course. It will be unlocked out of the box. After that, then LG will add that model to the official bootloader unlock list. (EDIT: in another forum, someone said the U.S. Cellular model my not be eligible for official bootloader unlock, even though it's the same model number.)
If you buy this phone from U.S. Cellular right now, pay for it in full, get it carrier unlocked, you would still need to wait for LG to add the US998 to the official bootloader unlock list, to be able to root. Earlier this year it took them SIX WEEKS after the LG G6 US997 was released to be add that phone to their bootloader unlock list.
So, while we know this U.S. Cellular US998 right now does not have LTE band 71, it's possible the official unlocked US998 will have it -- or it can be enabled after root. Exciting times right now, with lots of stuff happening!
To get really specific, here you go:
If you buy this phone right now from U.S. Cellular -- and get unlock code from U.S. Cellular -- it will work on all U.S./Canadian carriers including T-mobile. However, right now it will not have T-mobile's LTE band 71 (600 MHz) which T-mobile has installed in a very few places. (It does have the T-mobile band 66 which is something else.)
If you buy this phone right now from U.S. Cellular, you will have the LG V30+ with 128GB internal storage + microSD card. Will T-mobile eventually sell the V30+ version of this phone, maybe in November, December? Possibly.
If you buy this phone right now from U.S. Cellular, YES you will have a phone that will EVENTUALLY have bootloader unlock and root. You will just have to wait for it a few more weeks, for LG to add it to the official bootloader unlock list. (EDIT: in another forum, someone said the U.S. Cellular model my not be eligible for official bootloader unlock, even though it's the same model number.)
Will T-mobile LG V30 ever have root? Probably not, unless LG/T-mobile has changed their minds since the T-mobile LG G6 was released.
If you buy this phone right now from U.S. Cellular, will you EVER have LTE band 71? Right now, we don't know. Before release, LG can file an FCC amendment to add LTE band 71 to the official carrier unlocked US998 or it possibly LTE band 71 can be enabled on US998 via root. Since this U.S. Cellular US998 and the official carrier unlocked US998 are the same hardware, you can flash any firmware meant for one over the other. IF the official carrier unlocked US998 ever gets LTE band 71, one way or the other, then YES so will this U.S. Cellular phone. (EDIT: in another forum, someone said the U.S. Cellular model my not be eligible for official bootloader unlock, even though it's the same model number.)
rduong said:
If I buy the v30+ from us cellular or Sprint, do you think I can use it for t mobile network with the same coverage as if I bought it from T-Mobile themselves?
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Well of course you'll be able to. Sprint will be merged with TMo at the end of this month. So anyone buying a Sprint phone right now is gonna be kinda screwed when Tmo converts all the CDMA to GSM. I would hold off buying any Sprint phones for at least a year to be safe
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Well of course you'll be able to. Sprint will be merged with TMo at the end of this month. So anyone buying a Sprint phone right now is gonna be kinda screwed when Tmo converts all the CDMA to GSM. I would hold off buying any Sprint phones for at least a year to be safe
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I've helped a lot of friends escape Sprint.
I really hope that we can get a bootloader unlock for the US cellular version. I have one on the way.
AliLaPointe said:
I really hope that we can get a bootloader unlock for the US cellular version. I have one on the way.
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No, it will be locked down. The LG G6 was. They go by IMEID or something.
(reposting to this thread as it's relevant information)
sprke said:
I just purchased the US998 from US Cellular for use on T-Mobile. It was carrier unlocked out of the box and works perfectly on T-Mobile.
I definitely want band 71 so I'm wondering how long it will take to know if this model can be boot loader unlocked and rooted..and also if band 71 can be enabled.
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Yes, the U.S. Cellular US998 model (in both V30 andV30+) is the UNofficial carrier unlocked version. It has all the GSM/CDMA/HSPA/LTE bands listed below -- but it won't be eligible for bootloader unlock and root. It is SIM card unlocked (carrier unlocked) if you pay in full. There's no guarantee LG will sell the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked US998 in the V30+ (128GB) configuration.
We're hoping the official US998 can have LTE band 71 enabled on root or that LG enables it via FCC amendment before release end of this month.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
V30+ US998 U.S. Cellular – USA
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS1700/2100 (B4), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8)
CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC1/BC14)
LTE1900 (B2), LTE1800 (B3), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE700 (B13), LTE700 (B17), LTE800 (B20), LTE1900 (B25), LTE2300 (B30), LTE1700/2100 (B66)
TD-LTE2500 (B41)
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So In the last few weeks i have tried the Essential nice phone really like it.. but the camera on it sucks.. I purchased a one plus 5t but didnt work on verizon... So there is a bunch of v30s on various sale groups by me for half price but they are for tmobile im guessing from that buy one get one sale going on.. Can it work on verizon and if so what needs to be done to make it work?
thanks in advance.
umx said:
So In the last few weeks i have tried the Essential nice phone really like it.. but the camera on it sucks.. I purchased a one plus 5t but didnt work on verizon... So there is a bunch of v30s on various sale groups by me for half price but they are for tmobile im guessing from that buy one get one sale going on.. Can it work on verizon and if so what needs to be done to make it work?
thanks in advance.
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No. Just like AT&T and T-mobile use HSPA as backup bands when LTE is not available, Verizon uses CDMA. The T-mobile H932 doesn't have CDMA. While you CAN enable Verizon LTE band 13 for instance via the "hidden menu" trick on the T-mobile H932, you can't enable CDMA.
The phone that would work for you is the U.S. Cellular V30 or V30+. It has the CDMA and LTE bands you need for Verizon.
Next week, the "open market" official carrier unlocked LG V30 US998 will be released and that will also have all the Verizon bands you need. It's basically the same model as the U.S. Cellular but will also be eligible for bootloader unlock, root, etc. If you don't care about those things, then go ahead and get the U.S. Cellular model US998. It's the "unofficial" carrier unlocked model, also numbered US998. It has GSM/CDMA/HSPA/LTE.
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No. Just like AT&T and T-mobile use HSPA as backup bands when LTE is not available, Verizon uses CDMA. The T-mobile H932 doesn't have CDMA. While you CAN enable Verizon LTE band 13 for instance via the "hidden menu" trick on the T-mobile H932, you can't enable CDMA.
The phone that would work for you is the U.S. Cellular V30 or V30+. It has the CDMA and LTE bands you need for Verizon.
Next week, the "open market" official carrier unlocked LG V30 US998 will be released and that will also have all the Verizon bands you need. It's basically the same model as the U.S. Cellular but will also be eligible for bootloader unlock, root, etc. If you don't care about those things, then go ahead and get the U.S. Cellular model US998. It's the "unofficial" carrier unlocked model, also numbered US998.
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ahh dam ok, thanks for your reply.. Ill wait til amazon gets the v30+
Have an opportunity to pickup a 2nd and 3rd phone for family.
The phone used to be on T-Mobile as a locked device, now unlocked.
Will it work on AT&T -- is it in fact the same as an AT&T LG V30 ?
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Have an opportunity to pickup a 2nd and 3rd phone for family.
The phone used to be on T-Mobile as a locked device, now unlocked.
Will it work on AT&T -- is it in fact the same as an AT&T LG V30 ?
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The hardware may be identical but the firmware is not. Yes, it will work on AT&T. However it does not have some of the new minor AT&T bands the AT&T version has, like LTE bands 25 and 30. Seriously, you won't notice they are not there. There are no "standalone" locations where AT&T ONLY has LTE bands 25 and 30. Those are "filler" bands to help with congestion and are still being rolled out.
Just like a few years ago when LTE band 5 was first being rolled out. Back then, if you got bumped off the LTE bands 2, 4, 17 (now being called LTE band 12 by AT&T, discussed in depth in threads elsewhere), and your phone didn't have LTE band 5 in areas where it was present, you got temporarily bumped to HSPA. You STILL had carrier signal and went back to LTE as soon as possible.
The important ones are still 2, 4, 12 (Formerly called 17 by AT&T. But band 17 is a subset of the larger LTE band 12, so no need to list both. That would be like saying "includes Georgia and Atlanta." Atlanta is IN Georgia. As of early 2017, all new AT&T phones ONLY list LTE band "12", and no longer list LTE band 17.) -- and now "filler" LTE band 5 is in a lot of places. The T-mobile H932 phone has all four of those(2, 4, 5, 12/17), so yes it will work well on AT&T.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
V30 H931AT&T – USA
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS1700/2100 (B4), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8)
LTE1900 (B2), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE700 (B12 -- which includes band 17 ), LTE1900 (B25), LTE2300 (B30)
TD-LTE2500 (B41), LTE1700/2100 (B66)
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V30 H932SVT-Mobile – USA
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS1700/2100 (B4), UMTS850 (B5)
LTE2100 (B1), LTE1900 (B2), LTE1800 (B3), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE700 (B12 --- which includes band 17), LTE800 (B20), LTE700 (B28), LTE700 (B29), LTE1700/2100 (B66), LTE600 (B71)
TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE2500 (B41)
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Now, the T-mobile version has a nifty menu where you can ALLEGEDLY add LTE bands. Whether this actually lets you receive those bands is still up for discussion. We tried enabling T-mobile menu with LTE band 71 for instance in the rooted US998 and no one yet has reported success.
Could you add AT&T 25 and 30? It might let you in the menu, but whether it really worked or not, you would have to tell us.
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The hardware may be identical but the firmware is not. Yes, it will work on AT&T. However it does not have some of the minor AT&T bands the AT&T version has, like LTE bands 25 and 30. Seriously, you won't notice they are not there. There are no "standalone" locations where AT&T ONLY has LTE bands 25 and 30. Those are "filler" bands to help with congestion and are still being rolled out.
Just like a few years ago when LTE band 5 was being rolled out. If you got bumped off the LTE bands 2, 4, 17 (now being called LTE band 12 by AT&T, discussed in depth in threads elsewhere), and your phone didn't have LTE band 5, you got temporarily bumped to HSPA. You STILL had signal and went back to LTE as soon as possible.
The important ones are still 2, 4, 12 (Formerly called 17 by AT&T. But band 17 is a subset of the larger LTE band 12, so no need to list both. That would be like saying "includes Georgia and Atlanta." Atlanta is IN Georgia. All new AT&T phones ONLY list LTE band "12".) and now "filler" LTE band 5 is in a lot of places. The T-mobile phone has those, so yes it will work well on AT&T.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
Now, the T-mobile version has a nifty menu where you can ALLEGEDLY add LTE bands. Whether this actually lets you receive those bands is still up for discussion. We tried enabling T-mobile menu with LTE band 71 for instance in the rooted US998 and no one yet has reported success.
Could you add AT&T 25 and 30? It might let you in the menu, but whether it really worked or not, you would have to tell us.
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AT&T is T-Mobile's domestic roaming partner in some areas. Although band 25 and band 30 aren't available where I roam on to AT&T's network (southern West Virginia). It would make sense that they should work for that reason.
LG though has gone out of their way though to limit working bands on the V30. For some reason, the DS version doesn't want to work with T-Mobile USA bands even though the bands show up in the menu. I don't personally own one but from many years of tinkering with devices. The V30 is the first device I am aware of that lists without modification bands in the engineering menu that actually don't seem to work.
For what it's worth, I have the unlocked/rooted US998 running on AT&T. I've tried to add those extra LTE bands as ChazzMatt described. Band 30 in my case is not enabled or working by default. It allows you to add them, but I haven't got them to work. So I am left wondering if it is hardware difference between the unlocked version and the official AT&T version, or simply firmware? Since LG hasn't officially made bootloader unlock available for the US market unlocked models, there aren't a lot of us to experiment with.
Let's see if I can be coherent about the following.
A previously locked AT&T V30, unlocked via email with code from AT&T.
Proceeded to take this (now unlocked) phone to Verizon. Their phone calls work fine but SMS and data does not work.
When checking the IMEI, their system says invalid IMEI.
When using an AT&T SIM, everything works.
So, unlocking a locked AT&T phone really does nothing at all -- or what is occurring here ?
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Let's see if I can be coherent about the following.
A previously locked AT&T V30, unlocked via email with code from AT&T.
Proceeded to take this (now unlocked) phone to Verizon. Their phone calls work fine but SMS and data does not work.
When checking the IMEI, their system says invalid IMEI.
When using an AT&T SIM, everything works.
So, unlocking a locked AT&T phone really does nothing at all -- or what is occurring here ?
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Most GSM carrier branded phones (AT&T and T-Mobile) don't work on CDMA carrier networks (Sprint and Verizon). Or at least don't work fully. Some phones direct from vendors for the US market (such as the V30 variant US998, Pixel devices and others) work on both GSM and CDMA carriers, while others (such as OnePlus) only work on GSM networks.
In addition to network/band limitations of the phone hardware, CDMA carriers need to specifically add the phone's IMEI to their network in order to provision service. Just popping in a SIM card usually isn't enough.
I am surprised you are getting any service at all, which means your phone was probably unlocked alright, and Verizon must have added it's IMEI to their network. I would say you can try a carrier wipe (dialing ##SCRTN#) but I don't know if it will work on your phone, and you may be required to enter your MSL. So DON'T try it unless you have that.
You should be able to switch to T-Mobile, though, just with a SIM card and entering APN settings.
Edit: If you haven't already performed a Network settings reset (Settings/General/Backup & reset) I would do that first.
Edit2: Regardless of everything, I would love to hear the outcome, particularly if you perform a carrier wipe (##SCRTN#).
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For what it's worth, I have the unlocked/rooted US998 running on AT&T. I've tried to add those extra LTE bands as ChazzMatt described. Band 30 in my case is not enabled or working by default. It allows you to add them, but I haven't got them to work. So I am left wondering if it is hardware difference between the unlocked version and the official AT&T version, or simply firmware? Since LG hasn't officially made bootloader unlock available for the US market unlocked models, there aren't a lot of us to experiment with.
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Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile. I am the owner of the phone and have no outstanding balance with them however they refuse to allow me to unlock the phone. Is there any capacity for me to unlock it otherwise? Id rather not pay for a suspect service and obviously those who do it through a service have some kind of process to doing so and I was wondering if you could illuminate that for me.
DamienGhioldi said:
Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile. I am the owner of the phone and have no outstanding balance with them however they refuse to allow me to unlock the phone. Is there any capacity for me to unlock it otherwise? Id rather not pay for a suspect service and obviously those who do it through a service have some kind of process to doing so and I was wondering if you could illuminate that for me.
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Did you buy the V30 from T-Mobile directly? T-Mobile only unlocks devices fully paid off by the original purchaser on the active account they purchased it on as long as they don't have a past due balance. You would use the T-Mobile Unlock app that comes preinstalled on the device to remove the SIM lock, if you meet all of those requirements. Otherwise, you are stuck using a third party unlocking service.
ANSWER BELOW.
But First... I hate it when people dig up very old threads. This thread was started (Feb 2018) back before we had root for ALL V30 and TWRP-flashable zips for most of them. Most of the information in this thread is outdated and will confuse people reading it.
Second, this thread has NOTHING to do with procedure for carrier unlocking/SIM card unlocking T-mobile H932. So, not sure why this question was asked here....
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Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile.
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Is your phone a T-mobile H932? There are many LG V30 phones which will work on T-mobile. Is this specifically the T-mobile branded LG V30/V30+?
DamienGhioldi said:
Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile. I am the owner of the phone and have no outstanding balance with them however they refuse to allow me to unlock the phone. Is there any capacity for me to unlock it otherwise? Id rather not pay for a suspect service and obviously those who do it through a service have some kind of process to doing so and I was wondering if you could illuminate that for me.
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You can only carrier unlock/SIM card unlock the T-mobile H932 through T-mobile servers. Mostly by using the T-Mobile unlock app.
If you cannot do it that way, there are a few 3rd party providers who can spoof your T-mobile H932 to another T-mobile phone model and help you unlock it.
You have to downgrade to Nougat for this to work. They will remote into your PC, with your phone connected and do stuff. But they are still using the unlock app with T-mobile servers.
THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE ANY "CODE". If anyone tries to sell you a "code", that is a scam.
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Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile. I am the owner of the phone and have no outstanding balance with them however they refuse to allow me to unlock the phone. Is there any capacity for me to unlock it otherwise? Id rather not pay for a suspect service and obviously those who do it through a service have some kind of process to doing so and I was wondering if you could illuminate that for me.
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Just adding to the spot-on advice already provided:
In addition to the phone being paid off, the account on which it was purchased must be in good standing, AND the phone must have been active on T-Mobile for at least 40 days (postpaid) or 1 year (prepaid). See T-Mobile's complete requirements here. If you fulfill those requirements, they generally will unlock the phone.
If they either refuse to unlock it or are unable (the latter being a common occurence) you want to file an FCC complaint. It's not a very big or complex process, and it will escalate the matter to T-Mobile's Executive Office. Those guys can unlock the phone in a heartbeat, even when the rest of T-Mobile says it's impossible. I've used them, and so has others. Nice people too. But first make sure you genuinely fulfill their requirements, otherwise you're wasting their time, which I'm sure they don't appreciate.
Otherwise you have to use a 3rd party service as described by @ChazzMatt. The phone must be rooted (last I heard). Check the thread linked below (which would have been much better for this discussion).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/v30-h932-t3966772
Dual SIM question.
Looking for a dual SIM phone that meets spec needs and unlocked bootloader.
Will the lgv30 dual sim work on Verizon and cricket?
mrkhigh said:
Dual SIM question.
Looking for a dual SIM phone that meets spec needs and unlocked bootloader.
Will the lgv30 dual sim work on Verizon and cricket?
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No, it won't. You're talking about the H930DS.
These are the H930DS LTE bands below. Missing 2, 4, 12, 13 for what you need.... And you can't "Frankenstein" the H939DS to convert to North American variants, with their frequencies. H930DS is for other parts of the world.
LTE2100 (B1), LTE1800 (B3), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), LTE800 (B20), LTE700 (B28)
TD-LTE2600 (B38), TD-LTE1900 (B39), TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE2500 (B41)
Had a feeling you'd help me out. Thanks.
I'll just forward the number and use Verizon messages plus then if I go with this device. Just really don't like to have to do that....
I'm not completely sure how Verizon call forwarding works but if it still allows for me to use lte on the Verizon phone while forwarded I can have it ring my Google number and allow both phones to ring. if that is the case I really don't need the dual SIM as much as would prefer to have Verizon and cricket coverage especially since Verizon has better coverage. Unfortunately the cricket number will be my primary carry.
I'm looking for a device that will be equal to or better than the pixel 2 (my current work phone).
The mi mix 2 or mi mix 3 is looking very tempting.
My wife has an htc u11.
But this is the other device I looked hard at before buying the u11 for her.
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Had a feeling you'd help me out. Thanks.
I'll just forward the number and use Verizon messages plus then if I go with this device. Just really don't like to have to do that....
I'm not completely sure how Verizon call forwarding works but if it still allows for me to use lte on the Verizon phone while forwarded I can have it ring my Google number and allow both phones to ring. if that is the case I really don't need the dual SIM as much as would prefer to have Verizon and cricket coverage especially since Verizon has better coverage. Unfortunately the cricket number will be my primary carry.
I'm looking for a device that will be equal to or better than the pixel 2 (my current work phone).
The mi mix 2 or mi mix 3 is looking very tempting.
My wife has an htc u11.
But this is the other device I looked hard at before buying the u11 for her.
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As you know, lots of Verizon users on here from the Droid Turbo (Moto Quark) XDA forums. @schwinn8, @gimpy1, @nnjimmy59 and many others.
For hardware features, this is better than the Pixel 2: has
headset jack,
Quad DAC,
DTS 3D Surround sound (with root; on recent firmware updates LG has the framework -- the libs -- but you need root to enable for some reason),
microSD card slot, and
Qi wireless charging.
Mint US998 V30+ (128GB) is now $185 on eBay. You'll need your already-activated Verizon SIM card. After bootloader unlock and TWRP installation, then you can flash to Verizon TWRP flashable zip (ROM) made from latest stock KDZ firmware, and have all Verizon features. You're basically converting to VS996 -- BUT with 128GB internal memory, plus microSD card.
Or you can buy Verizon-branded VS996 (64GB), if you wish, but I've not priced those recently.
Be aware that almost all "new" V30 at this point in time are really refurbished, which is why I'm more willing to look at "mint" used. I've bought from that seller several times.
Be sure to buy a good case like this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Spigen-LG-V30-Rugged-Armor-Shockproof-Case-Slim-TPU-Cover-/253142676754
They can be very slippery with the glass front and back.
Actually I'd be running on cricket (att) but the price is indeed right.
I don't miss my headphone jack, I've moved to Bluetooth.
The rest would be nice.
The specs are very close. With lg having a slightly faster processor and bigger battery.
I wish it were a physically smaller phone. I already feel the p2 is too large but it is good for games.
Any suggestion as to the exact model to get for cricket (att)
Mind you I'd want it to be unlockable
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Mind you I'd want it to be unlockable
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All V30 variants can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. U.S. T-mobile H932 uses a more difficult method, while all the others use the "WTF" bootloader unlock exploit.
US998 V30/V30+/V30S are all carrier unlocked, if you are also talking about that. In fact, the default method to carrier unlock the AT&T H931 and the Sprint LS998 are to "Frankenstein" convert them to US998 firmware. It instantly carrier unlocks them -- very useful for people in other countries buying these phones off eBay...
My wife, me, my mother, my sister, her husband, two other friends all use the US998 on AT&T. The US998 is the "official" North America carrier unlocked variant, with compatibility for all carriers. (Yes, I use AT&T but have never used AT&T-branded phones. For the Quark, I had the Moto XT1225 I imported from other countries.)
You probably want the V30+ for the extra internal memory.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
Thanks, I may buy it here in a few months then.
I just wish it wasn't glass glued together.
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All V30 variants can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. U.S. T-mobile H932 uses a more difficult method, while all the others use the "WTF" bootloader unlock exploit.
US998 V30/V30+/V30S are all carrier unlocked, if you are also talking about that. In fact, the default method to carrier unlock the AT&T H931 and the Sprint LS998 are to "Frankenstein" convert them to US998 firmware. It instantly carrier unlocks them -- very useful for people in other countries buying these phones off eBay...
My wife, me, my mother, my sister, her husband, two other friends all use the US998 on AT&T. The US998 is the "official" North America carrier unlocked variant, with compatibility for all carriers. (Yes, I use AT&T but have never used AT&T-branded phones. For the Quark, I had the Moto XT1225 I imported from other countries.)
You probably want the V30+ for the extra internal memory.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
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What's the story on the screen burn in and "blurring?" I'm reading about.
I play games that heat up phones. Is this phones screen not up for the task?
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What's the story on the screen burn in and "blurring?" I'm reading about.
I play games that heat up phones. Is this phones screen not up for the task?
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It's up to it.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I have a free government phone that uses a Sprint SIM, I almost always have LTE coverage with it, I recently purchased the V30 and it should be here soon. The seller described it as GSM unlocked and I'm aware Sprint isn't GSM, but unfortunately forgot about these things until after I purchased.
Is there any way I'll be able to use the SIM in the V30?
And if it requires any changes, if I need to return the V30 will those changes be noticeable or reversible if so?
Any help is extremely appreciated, thanks!
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I have a free government phone that uses a Sprint SIM, I almost always have LTE coverage with it, I recently purchased the V30 and it should be here soon. The seller described it as GSM unlocked and I'm aware Sprint isn't GSM, but unfortunately forgot about these things until after I purchased.
Is there any way I'll be able to use the SIM in the V30?
And if it requires any changes, if I need to return the V30 will those changes be noticeable or reversible if so?
Any help is extremely appreciated, thanks!
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No, you cannot use T-mobile H932 with Sprint SIM card. Sprint still uses CDMA bands and has some extra LTE bands not on the H932. You cannot convert the T-mobile H932 to any other variant.
You need to return it and get Sprint LS998 instead. Cool thing about that is all LS998 are actually V30+ (128GB internal memory), while most T-mobile H932 are only V30 (64GB) -- although there are some T-mobile H932 V30+ in existence, which was sold for limited time by T-Mobile.
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No, you cannot use T-mobile H932 with Sprint SIM card. Sprint still uses CDMA bands and has some extra LTE bands not on the H932. You cannot convert the T-mobile H932 to any other variant.
You need to return it and get Sprint LS998 instead. Cool thing about that is most (if not all) LS998 are actually V30+ (128GB internal memory), while most T-mobile H932 are only V30 (64GB) -- although there are some T-mobile H932 V30+ in existence, which was sold for limited time.
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Thanks for the reply. The website "WillMyPhoneWork?" (can't post link) says the H932 has one of the bands Sprint uses for their 4G LTE network (Band41-2500MHz), and because of that, it "may" work, what's your input on that?
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Thanks for the reply. The website "WillMyPhoneWork?" (can't post link) says the H932 has one of the bands Sprint uses for their 4G LTE network (Band41-2500MHz), and because of that, it "may" work, what's your input on that?
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My answer stands.
You may not have that one LTE band in your area or elsewhere, you will need CDMA for some stuff, and Sprint won't accept a T-Mobile H932 on their Network.
You're trying to make this difficult, when I already answered your question.
For other reasons I don't want to go into here, the only people who should get the T-Mobile H932 are actual T-Mobile customers. No matter how much allegedly "SIM card unlocked". One reason being that when updating to new OS firmware, that carrier unlocking is sometimes canceled, and then you have totally useless phone (if you are not a T-Mobile customer).
There's other reasons too.
ChazzMatt said:
My answer stands.
You may not have that LTE band in your area, you will need CDMA for some stuff, and Sprint won't accept a T-Mobile h932 on their Network.
You're trying to make this difficult, when I already answered your question.
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It's not that I want to make things difficult, I don't want that at all really, it's that I was clinging on to any last piece of hope since I'm in a very time and money sensitive situation currently where I need a better phone to relieve significant issues I have using my current (really bad) I use phone for work, it's holding me back big time. If there truly is nothing I can do I'll have to not only wait for the phone to come, but also need to do what's required to ship the phone back to the ebay seller and wait for my refund, all things I was really trying to avoid.
Hopefully that's more understandable why I replied the way I did, the last thing I wanted to do was burden you as I really do appreciate your advice. I have a couple more questions but it's understandable if you prefer not to assist anymore in this thread Chazz.
I wanted to know what was meant by "You'll need CDMA for some stuff", and about Sprint not accepting the phone. I already have active Sprint service with the SIM I currently use, was hoping to only need to take the SIM out of my current phone, and put it into the H932.
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Thanks for the reply. The website "WillMyPhoneWork?" (can't post link) says the H932 has one of the bands Sprint uses for their 4G LTE network (Band41-2500MHz), and because of that, it "may" work, what's your input on that?
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The site is absolutely correct. It may work....in a very limited fashion.
Carriers don't deploy every frequency at every tower, partly for practicality reasons (e.g. out in the middle of nowhere it makes most sense to use CDMA+band 26 to eke the most range possible out of the tower and adding more radios to the tower is a waste of money) and partly licensing (they may own band 25 in one area but not another).
You might very well have a band 41 tower near your house, and it would appear to work properly (maybe even with VoLTE, if Sprint has that and the T-Mobile ROM will connect it). But if you head to work, and the tower nearest there only has band 25, then you're SOL; technically there's "Sprint" coverage, just not what your extremely limited cross-compatibility needs.
When @ChazzMatt was saying that you'll need CDMA for some stuff, it's because carrier models tend to only support their own VoLTE implementation out of the box, and need some work to get it working otherwise. It may not work at all without running the Sprint ROM; same with wifi calling if Sprint supports that.
Without those two, you'll have no voice and texting services, because those are what the CDMA connection is for. Without VoLTE, your LTE band is strictly data-only (though you COULD use IM and voice apps like Google Voice, since those use a data connection).
I think CDMA carriers are still running whitelists anyway, regardless of what the phone supports --- and Sprint is probably taking it a step further by only allowing Sprint and (possibly) Unlocked phones.
Because of the whitelist BS, you ideally need a Sprint model (as the whitelist goes by IMEI, not what software is flashed, although non-Sprint software may have issues with the initial activation so do that before flashing anything). If you're on Sprint itself rather than an MVNO, you might be able to get away with just swapping the SIM into a CDMA-capable phone, but it really depends on how the network is set up.
To summarize:
Because it only supports one band (a data-only band, even), your coverage will be extremely limited
In the same vein as above, unless you can get either VoLTE working over that single band, or wifi calling to connect, you'll have no native voice/text services due to lack of CDMA
Sprint will absolutely not freshly activate a non-Sprint (as indicated by IMEI) phone on their network, maybe not the unlocked US998 model either (however this probably won't stop you from swapping your SIM in)
Ideal course of action is to return your H932 (and eat any return cost, unfortunately...), obtain an LS998, get it activated, then flash whatever ROM you like (if desired)
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If you're curious as to why anyone would want an H932, given it being harder to unlock and root and being limited strictly to T-Mobile bands: it's the only model that supports band 71, TMO's new-in-2017 long-range band --- the US998 both lacks the band out of the box and is unable to activate it in software for whatever reason.
At a guess, this was due to an exclusivity agreement between LG and TMO in order to sell more carrier models...which is utterly moronic because b71 support was nearly useless in Q4 2017 (barely any sites deployed). But hey, what do I know, I'm just a random consumer and certainly don't know better than LG's fantastic marketing department.
(that last bit was sarcasm, if it wasn't obvious, LG's marketing is a joke/worst-in-industry)
@Septfox Thank you for the thorough and very helpful answer!