LG v30 or Pixel 2 XL - LG V30 Questions & Answers

Hi guys!
I know asking this might a bit stupid, but I'm quite undecided.
Right now I can get the Pixel 2 XL 64 GB or the V30 and are not sure, which one to get. Important things for me are:
- Long Update Cycles
- Fast Updates of Android
- Good Battery life
- A really good camera (most important, don't have a usual cam anymore)
A MicroSD Slot and audio jack are not that important, but give something like bonus points.
I already know that the Pixel has one of the best cams on the market and especially in low light the V30 is worse.
So, how about the OS itself? Has the V30 the current security patch (I know it still runs Android 7)? How fast do the patches come? How long do they support a current phone?
Any real life experiences here?
For me both cost the same and I'm also fine with 64 GB and don't need a SD Card (it's really nice to have). And the 32 Bit DAC sounds nice, but I mostly have BT headsets, but also some HQ with cable.
And I like my front speakers of my nexus 6p... mhh..
So hard to decide :/
So, objectively, what would you get?

Maerad said:
Hi guys!
I know asking this might a bit stupid, but I'm quite undecided.
Right now I can get the Pixel 2 XL 64 GB or the V30 and are not sure, which one to get. Important things for me are:
- Long Update Cycles
- Fast Updates of Android
- Good Battery life
- A really good camera (most important, don't have a usual cam anymore)
A MicroSD Slot and audio jack are not that important, but give something like bonus points.
I already know that the Pixel has one of the best cams on the market and especially in low light the V30 is worse.
So, how about the OS itself? Has the V30 the current security patch (I know it still runs Android 7)? How fast do the patches come? How long do they support a current phone?
Any real life experiences here?
For me both cost the same and I'm also fine with 64 GB and don't need a SD Card (it's really nice to have). And the 32 Bit DAC sounds nice, but I mostly have BT headsets, but also some HQ with cable.
And I like my front speakers of my nexus 6p... mhh..
So hard to decide :/
So, objectively, what would you get?
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For all you said go to the pixel 2 xl.
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Maerad said:
Hi guys!
I know asking this might a bit stupid, but I'm quite undecided.
Right now I can get the Pixel 2 XL 64 GB or the V30 and are not sure, which one to get. Important things for me are:
- Long Update Cycles
- Fast Updates of Android
- Good Battery life
- A really good camera (most important, don't have a usual cam anymore)
A MicroSD Slot and audio jack are not that important, but give something like bonus points.
I already know that the Pixel has one of the best cams on the market and especially in low light the V30 is worse.
So, how about the OS itself? Has the V30 the current security patch (I know it still runs Android 7)? How fast do the patches come? How long do they support a current phone?
Any real life experiences here?
For me both cost the same and I'm also fine with 64 GB and don't need a SD Card (it's really nice to have). And the 32 Bit DAC sounds nice, but I mostly have BT headsets, but also some HQ with cable.
And I like my front speakers of my nexus 6p... mhh..
So hard to decide :/
So, objectively, what would you get?
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Pixel for sure based on your priorities.
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Want to buy V10 or Nexus 6P?

I want to buy a phone, but don't know which one. Can you guys help me with this.
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Ultimately it's up to you. Everyone uses their phones differently and there are differing wants and needs for each person. No amount of convincing will help you. Just look at the pros and cons of both devices and make your best judgment.
the 6p is a much better phone if you enjoy pure android
that said, if you prefer an SD card and top shelf hardware, and don't mind the LG UI overlay, it's a very nice option as well
The big problem, imo, is there is no place currently in a store where you can compare Nexus 6P and LG V10. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Both devices are pretty awesome. Both cameras are pretty awesome. Both have fingerprint security. Both have pretty awesome screens, but it's really up to you whether you like Samsung AMOLED screens or LGs LCD.
Nexus has Octa-core Snapdragon 810 version 2 with Adreno 430.
LG has hexacore Snapdragon 808 with Adreno 418 ( which is half speed of Adreno 420 found in Snapdragon 805. Reason for this is Unknown to me)
LG has base 64GB memory, Nexus is 32GB, 64GB, or 128GB. You pay a premium for the increase.
LG has microsd slot and if you get it before November 15 you get a free 200GB microsd card if you live in one of the participating countries.
Nexus has no expandable storage.
And if course, Nexus will get Google system OS updates d soon as they are released.
LG has to go through carrier approval _ if you bought it on Carrier _ before OS updates are released.
Great comparison above.
I have both and actually really enjoy the V10. The 6P is kind of like "eh" to me. I love the fingerprint sensor on the 6P over the V10
V10: microSD slot, removable battery, awesome camera (and app for taking pics). The 2nd screen is weird, but can be useful sometimes. 32-bit DAC if you are big into audio. You can double tap to wake and sleep the display. You can do split screen apps or make some apps small windows (including the entire display to make everything reachable).
6P: pure Android so faster updates, front facing speakers, very nice fingerprint sensor (I get many "retry" on the V10 as it's not as perfectly located as the 6P is for me). USB Type-C (new but nice to not worry about which way it needs to face to plug in). Marshmellow is nice.
This guy has a comparison (but language isn't work safe if you play it at work) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NvGWQjJRY
If you listen to a lot of your own music and have nice headphones then V10 is a no brainer. It has an ESS Dac/Amp that sounds amazing and can power some very hungry headphones. The consumer reviews of the headphone audio on the 6p in some other forums is absolutely abysmal. Not only does it have very low volume output but the sound is sub-par.
That's the question I'm going to be working on answering for myself over the next 10 days
¿porqué no los dos?
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That's the question I'm going to be working on answering for myself over the next 10 days
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Lucky dog!
From a quality/durability standpoint? LG V10
There are a lot of great points here. The pros for the V10 are obvious as stated. Removable microSD card, battery, 64GB Internal, 4GB RAM, 2nd Display etc....
However, a point to consider as well is the build quality. IMO I would much prefer a device made in S.Korea over china any day. Again, if those of you that don't know what IMO means = In My Opinion. For me I find it important to buy something you don't have to worry about possibly/easily breaking. That would be a waste and not practical.
This is why I wouldn't buy a cheap chinese made phone. It's not all about the looks....there's no innovation or decent engineering at all. Just pure copies with an enticing exterior and hardware slapped together to make it look appealing. Keep in mind that they can get away with cheap knock off type of products over there because they have their market along with India's who will buy it. Now that they are trying to dance in the US market, guess what? There's something called rules, ethics, integrity, patents, copyright laws etc... So what huawei along with other cheap chinese knock off companies did was to basically make their devices, "just good enough," to meet the regulations in order to enter the US market. It's no secret and it's just how it is with their style of business.
From a structural and quality stand point in addition to all the great points being made....
I'll leave it at that....
Buy the LG V10.
Bootup said:
That's the question I'm going to be working on answering for myself over the next 10 days
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Lol same here.
cliffr39 said:
Lol same here.
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Aaaaand count me in. 128GB Nexus 6P Graphite arriving today. I have 12 days to decide.
cliffr39 said:
Great comparison above.
I have both and actually really enjoy the V10. The 6P is kind of like "eh" to me. I love the fingerprint sensor on the 6P over the V10
V10: microSD slot, removable battery, awesome camera (and app for taking pics). The 2nd screen is weird, but can be useful sometimes. 32-bit DAC if you are big into audio. You can double tap to wake and sleep the display. You can do split screen apps or make some apps small windows (including the entire display to make everything reachable).
6P: pure Android so faster updates, front facing speakers, very nice fingerprint sensor (I get many "retry" on the V10 as it's not as perfectly located as the 6P is for me). USB Type-C (new but nice to not worry about which way it needs to face to plug in). Marshmellow is nice.
This guy has a comparison (but language isn't work safe if you play it at work) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NvGWQjJRY
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How would u compare battery life between the 2? All the reviewers are saying the battery life is horrible on the V10, the promo has me pulling for the V10 tho.
siraltus said:
Aaaaand count me in. 128GB Nexus 6P Graphite arriving today. I have 12 days to decide.
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Keep us posted! I was considering the 6p also but the removable battery won me over.
I'm still eyeballing that keyboard on the BlackBerry priv though...been missing my keyboard since I went to note 2 from HTC g2.
Sent from my pretty nifty brand new LG V10
Early simplistic rankings of the 3 (MXPE, 6P, V10)
Display:V10,MXPE,6P
Camera (Pictures, no videos yet): V10, 6P (barely ahead of MXPE), MXPE
Sound (External): MXPE,6P,V10
Sound (Internal): MXPE, V10, 6P (most surprising)
Feel in hand:6P,MXPE, V10
Fingerprint:6P, V10.....
Notifications:MXPE,6P,V10
Battery:6P,V10,MXPE
Charging:Tie with V10/MXPE..the Moto charger works with V10 very well, 6P
Visual appeal: MXPE (Ash Charcoal Wood back is sexy), V10, 6P
Speed Opening Apps: 6P, V10, MXPE
Lag (Lack of): 6P/V10 tie, MXPE
Told my wife I will probably keep all 3 (Moto is out of return window but other 2 are returnable)
BUT if i had to keep one.....V10, with MXPE a close 2nd and 6P a veryvery close 3rd. In other words, you can't go wrong with either of them.
BTW, if MXPE could shoot raw or had camera2api and a fingerprint scanner, it would be my choice easily. Thats all its missing really from being the perfect phone for me (I know some will say wireless charge and maybe longer battery but turbo charging is beautiful)
sledgie said:
The big problem, imo, is there is no place currently in a store where you can compare Nexus 6P and LG V10. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Both devices are pretty awesome. Both cameras are pretty awesome. Both have fingerprint security. Both have pretty awesome screens, but it's really up to you whether you like Samsung AMOLED screens or LGs LCD.
Nexus has Octa-core Snapdragon 810 version 2 with Adreno 430.
LG has hexacore Snapdragon 808 with Adreno 418 ( which is half speed of Adreno 420 found in Snapdragon 805. Reason for this is Unknown to me)
LG has base 64GB memory, Nexus is 32GB, 64GB, or 128GB. You pay a premium for the increase.
LG has microsd slot and if you get it before November 15 you get a free 200GB microsd card if you live in one of the participating countries.
Nexus has no expandable storage.
And if course, Nexus will get Google system OS updates d soon as they are released.
LG has to go through carrier approval _ if you bought it on Carrier _ before OS updates are released.
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cliffr39 said:
Great comparison above.
I have both and actually really enjoy the V10. The 6P is kind of like "eh" to me. I love the fingerprint sensor on the 6P over the V10
V10: microSD slot, removable battery, awesome camera (and app for taking pics). The 2nd screen is weird, but can be useful sometimes. 32-bit DAC if you are big into audio. You can double tap to wake and sleep the display. You can do split screen apps or make some apps small windows (including the entire display to make everything reachable).
6P: pure Android so faster updates, front facing speakers, very nice fingerprint sensor (I get many "retry" on the V10 as it's not as perfectly located as the 6P is for me). USB Type-C (new but nice to not worry about which way it needs to face to plug in). Marshmellow is nice.
This guy has a comparison (but language isn't work safe if you play it at work) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NvGWQjJRY
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Bootup said:
That's the question I'm going to be working on answering for myself over the next 10 days
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iunlock said:
There are a lot of great points here. The pros for the V10 are obvious as stated. Removable microSD card, battery, 64GB Internal, 4GB RAM, 2nd Display etc....
However, a point to consider as well is the build quality. IMO I would much prefer a device made in S.Korea over china any day. Again, if those of you that don't know what IMO means = In My Opinion. For me I find it important to buy something you don't have to worry about possibly/easily breaking. That would be a waste and not practical.
This is why I wouldn't buy a cheap chinese made phone. It's not all about the looks....there's no innovation or decent engineering at all. Just pure copies with an enticing exterior and hardware slapped together to make it look appealing. Keep in mind that they can get away with cheap knock off type of products over there because they have their market along with India's who will buy it. Now that they are trying to dance in the US market, guess what? There's something called rules, ethics, integrity, patents, copyright laws etc... So what huawei along with other cheap chinese knock off companies did was to basically make their devices, "just good enough," to meet the regulations in order to enter the US market. It's no secret and it's just how it is with their style of business.
From a structural and quality stand point in addition to all the great points being made....
I'll leave it at that....
Buy the LG V10.
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siraltus said:
Aaaaand count me in. 128GB Nexus 6P Graphite arriving today. I have 12 days to decide.
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Hmmmm and tell me how is the 6p you bought in 10 days to return?
I really like the clean OS just like the 6P. But I hear allot from others that the 6p doesn't have any macro closeup option.. Soo my question how is the Closeup photos? How is the focus on closeup?
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aygul12345 said:
Hmmmm and tell me how is the 6p you bought in 10 days to return?
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Are you asking me? 10 days before my return window of the V10 is up. So 10 days of being able to use them side by side
Depends on what is most important to you. SD card & removable battery are top priority for me. I usually keep my phones 2 years and you will need a new battery in that time I used to be all about Vanilla Android, but on my Note just rooted, Uninstalled bloatware & installed the root apps I required. I ran Rooted Stock. On T Mobile, I think the bootloader is unlocked and you can root. As long as the phone is rootable, you can always get updates.
I wanted a 6P, my decision was made for me by the lack of availability any time soon if a 6P, removable battery, and finally an SD card.
INCREMENTAL said:
How would u compare battery life between the 2? All the reviewers are saying the battery life is horrible on the V10, the promo has me pulling for the V10 tho.
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Battery life is actually quite good on the v10 stock. I'm getting over 5hrs of sot from stock. One of the best on stock I've used
Sent from my non-Mega loved (yet) v10

OnePlus X or Xiaomi Mi4c?

Hi everyone, I have the OnePlus X and very happy with it, but in the back of my mind there's still that small issue that's it has last year specs, now gearbest has the Xiaomi Mi4c for £150, £30 cheaper then the OnePlus X, I just want to hear you opinion, if you would swap the X with the Mi4c, considering the that the Mi4c has up to date specs, IR blaster, better camera and a CM13 build already... Looking at this seems like a no brainer, but for some reason I still feel like I should stay with the X
Let me know your thoughts and have a awesome Christmas...
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Mi4c is like a polycarbinate OPX that runs faster and lasts longer. The only issue would be network support so check the bands first. I suggest you spend a little extra to get the 3/32GB version as no SD card is supported.
OnePlus X , definitely
Karly Johnston said:
Mi4c is like a polycarbinate OPX that runs faster and lasts longer. The only issue would be network support so check the bands first. I suggest you spend a little extra to get the 3/32GB version as no SD card is supported.
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Runs faster where? You mean everyday life/use or the difference is only notable on heavy usage? And what about smoothness?
Thanks
Oneplus X
hugoprh said:
Hi everyone, I have the OnePlus X and very happy with it, but in the back of my mind there's still that small issue that's it has last year specs, now gearbest has the Xiaomi Mi4c for £150, £30 cheaper then the OnePlus X, I just want to hear you opinion, if you would swap the X with the Mi4c, considering the that the Mi4c has up to date specs, IR blaster, better camera and a CM13 build already... Looking at this seems like a no brainer, but for some reason I still feel like I should stay with the X
Let me know your thoughts and have a awesome Christmas...
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Xiaomi better HW, 1+X better OS(in US)
i do agree mi4c has better hw but opx will have better dev support in the long run. miui updates do come in on a weekly basis with their beta roms but lack in custom roms. Mi4c cm13 has bugs still and so as opx's cm13. do note that miui rom runs heavily as well. it all comes down to tuning in the end of the day really.
Yeah, I'll stay with the OPX for now, hopefully the dev support will continue, now that MasterAwesome has stopped developing for OPX =( he help loads with the progress of CM12.1, if the OPX has the same support has the original OPO, then yes, this will be totally worth it
Thanks for your opinion guys =D
xrallyx said:
Runs faster where? You mean everyday life/use or the difference is only notable on heavy usage? And what about smoothness?
Thanks
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Runs faster everywhere, especially in gaming and web browsing. Mi4c also has much faster internal NAND as Oneplus really cheaped out on emmc. It might not look like a flagship, but it sure runs like one. The 801 was beast in its day but it is two years old now. It isn't Armv8, doesn't support Open GL 3.1, isn't 64 bit, has slow storage... it is over a year behind the internals of Mi4c and its performance confirms this. Not to mention battery life is 40% better on the Mi4c. It has three ROMs out not to mention the entire MIUI community. It checks out as a better device unless you just care about looks. That goes to OPX.
Karly Johnston said:
Runs faster everywhere, especially in gaming and web browsing. Mi4c also has much faster internal NAND as Oneplus really cheaped out on emmc. It might not look like a flagship, but it sure runs like one. The 801 was beast in its day but it is two years old now. It isn't Armv8, doesn't support Open GL 3.1, isn't 64 bit, has slow storage... it is over a year behind the internals of Mi4c and its performance confirms this. Not to mention battery life is 40% better on the Mi4c. It has three ROMs out not to mention the entire MIUI community. It checks out as a better device unless you just care about looks. That goes to OPX.
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I think you're wrong. --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5tU9lBjQ4
I'm currently using CM12.1 (stable 3.0) by MasterAawesome. Also I have used Mi4c, its a good performer. In the end it's Oneplus X which feels way more luxurious in hand than Mi4c. Also dev support for O+X is on rise. MasterAwesome's build already running just fine, not to mention three are some things yet to be fixed. On other side O+X's kernel has been made public. WHICH leads to some serious kernel build for stock OxygenOS e.g. Blue_spark by know name here on XDA. I would definitely not hesitate recommending Oneplus X over Mi4c.
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4c: Plastic feeling too strong
Xiaomi 4C is too thick and heavy. I much prefer X.
I own both I I can't say which one is the best.
It depends of your priority.
For heavy use and gaming, I would recommend Mi4c (if the 32Go are enought for your games / music....). Battery is really good.
For other use, I would recommand OPX. The screen is better. I find it more ergonomical or practical to use. Don't know why, it's just a felling. Battery is not bad at all. Dieep Idle, is good.
I can last around 2,5 days with a little use (airplane during night, gmail synchro and phone, something like 3H screen on on this period.)
There are others Pro / Cons : NFC / Tuner Radio....
Ah, and reverse thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/mi-4c-oneplus-x-t3240885
It my moderately extensive battery testing, the OPX smoked the Mi4c (OPX best = 7 hours 51 minutes, while Mi4C best was 5 hours 30 minutes) in the web page refresh test, and matched the Mi4c in the video playback test (best score from both was 6 hours 45 minutes). Yes, this is not "real world" usage OST tests, but they are indicative.
Also note that Mi4c kernel has not been released and may never be released.
The hardware differences powerwise (SoC etc...), while measurable, is not something you'd ever notice in real life usage unless rendering video or compiling code.
Mi4c has a better camera, but will anyone notice if you're only posting on Facebook and in emails, eg digital sharing / not making big prints? Probably not. The IR remote is a real positive for Mi4c if you have devices you'd really use it with. For myself, the possibility of TF SD expansion with the OPX is a far bigger bonus than IR remote.
I'm not downing the Mi4c. It's a great choice, but in terms of day-to-day typical and most beyond typical usage, the benefits of the stronger SoC and better camera aren't enough to recommend it over the OPX with TF SD slot, already released kernel and likely much broader custom ROM support for the foreseeable future.
So I went completely different way xD, I ordered a Huawei P8, I saw one for £165 and went for it, I know that dev support is non existing, but with Android 6 already available, I decided to try it, the design seems impressive and reviews say wonders about the camera, very important for me, with 2 young kids, a good camera is important, OPX was not bad at all, but some detail is missing from the photos...
I'll probably keep the P8 for a week or 2 and then I'll move along
Thanks everyone for you opinions =D and have a good year =D

best $200ish phone? need feedback on x owners

looking to buy the oneplus x soon and was wondering if there are any common issues. heat, lag, camera, battery life, build quality, speakers, etc...
Its either this or the honor x pretty much. I plan to use it on tmobile ( b4 lte in my area) and stock. I'm leaning towards the oneplusx because of stock android and i dont need the fingerprint scanner. I'm coming from a vivo air lte so I dont mind the front and back glass. would love qi charging but I'm guessing a case and the few wireless receivers i have would do the trick if need be. honor 5x has a better gpu and stereo speakers but that's about it.
things I'm looking for: some gaming, light and non-bulky, stock android, battery life, speakers.
your thoughts or any other recommendations?
Actually technically the X has a better GPU. As for which device is better it really depends on whether you want yo wait for Oxygen to mature and have a better device than the 5 or if you'd rather have a decent phone right now. I'm going to recommend the X, but that said, Oxygen isn't really mayute. I recommend tunning with CM 13 as it doesn't void the warranty. I'll even help you get set up and running with it.
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looking to buy the oneplus x soon and was wondering if there are any common issues. heat, lag, camera, battery life, build quality, speakers, etc...
Its either this or the honor x pretty much. I plan to use it on tmobile ( b4 lte in my area) and stock. I'm leaning towards the oneplusx because of stock android and i dont need the fingerprint scanner. I'm coming from a vivo air lte so I dont mind the front and back glass. would love qi charging but I'm guessing a case and the few wireless receivers i have would do the trick if need be. honor 5x has a better gpu and stereo speakers but that's about it.
things I'm looking for: some gaming, light and non-bulky, stock android, battery life, speakers.
your thoughts or any other recommendations?
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I have no idea about the Honor but I have the OPX and I can honestly say I'm very impressed with it. I have zero issues and very good battery life when I do use it.
I've got the Sandstone case with it and as with the OPO which I owned as well I love the build quality.
Now I'm a huge Sammy Fanboy and I have an S6 Edge Plus and I'm having the S7 Edge coming next week and I'll tell you this...I'm selling the S6 Edge Plus and keeping my OPX.
Excellent device for the money.
"And on that bombshell!"
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I am entirely in love with my Opx. The build quality is beautiful and my coworkers think I have a $600 phone. Performance is as good as flagship out there in the real world and I have had no regrets. If you like to tinker than 1+ doesn't void your warranty for an unlocked bootloader or rooting the device. The stock rom has some features that you usually need root for like the advanced power menu (to allow you to boot into recovery and bootloader) and changing the battery icon.
I'll also say I had the 2015 moto g and paid $200 for it. Not worth the price in the damned slightest.
thanks! i used to be a flashaholic but there's a game i play alot that wont work on rooted devices so i have to stick to stock. i thought the gpu was inferior to the honors 405 til i read the 1+ scored almost double in gaming benchmarks so that was nice to see.
how about call quality for you? speakers are nice and loud? i had the nexus 5 and LOVED that phone but couldn't bear the speaker anymore. even with the tweaks
edit: any tmobile users here? i just noticed the 1+ doesn't have band 4 and that's the one I primarily connect to at home and work. would it just connect to band 1 at 2100? i'd hate to lose lte*
*disregard. seems it does have band4. one site had the wrong specs.
according to oneplus chat:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/8
killerb777 said:
thanks! i used to be a flashaholic but there's a game i play alot that wont work on rooted devices so i have to stick to stock. i thought the gpu was inferior to the honors 405 til i read the 1+ scored almost double in gaming benchmarks so that was nice to see.
how about call quality for you? speakers are nice and loud? i had the nexus 5 and LOVED that phone but couldn't bear the speaker anymore. even with the tweaks
edit: any tmobile users here? i just noticed the 1+ doesn't have band 4 and that's the one I primarily connect to at home and work. would it just connect to band 1 at 2100?
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Zero problems love my OPX excellent phone it really is a top device
"And on that bombshell!"
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OPX is all about appearance. User experience is a disaster.
If you need LTE band 12 or 17, you're better with something else, for sure.
killerb777 said:
thanks! i used to be a flashaholic but there's a game i play alot that wont work on rooted devices so i have to stick to stock. i thought the gpu was inferior to the honors 405 til i read the 1+ scored almost double in gaming benchmarks so that was nice to see.
how about call quality for you? speakers are nice and loud? i had the nexus 5 and LOVED that phone but couldn't bear the speaker anymore. even with the tweaks
edit: any tmobile users here? i just noticed the 1+ doesn't have band 4 and that's the one I primarily connect to at home and work. would it just connect to band 1 at 2100? i'd hate to lose lte*
*disregard. seems it does have band4. one site had the wrong specs.
according to oneplus chat:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/8
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Ok so I had the nexus 5 and then moved to the OPO which I loved but dropped a couple times which damaged the phone slightly and my OCD made me go for the X. I currently love the smaller form factor and the build. Great phone and the speaker and battery life are better than the nexus 5. The speaker is I would say decent, not the best but definitely an improvement over the nexus 5 volume wise at least.
Battery life, just flash a different kernel on the stock rom and you're good to go. No need to root anyway, and I like Oxygen OS 2.2.0 - it's stable and has the clean minimal features I want in a ROM.
My one gripe is the lack of fast charging... Not even QC2.0 but the fact that you can't get the full 2mAh from the charger. That sucks, but otherwise it's a nice device. Well worth it for the money!
Loureiro said:
OPX is all about appearance. User experience is a disaster.
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I think you are doing something wrong...
Why do you think UX is a disaster?
SlanDev said:
I think you are doing something wrong...
Why do you think UX is a disaster?
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Long story short, plenty of major issues reported since early november and not even a word about it.
Try Hydrogen OS for a more consistent experience.
I don't give a damn about OOS updates anymore. I am runing my own build based on AOSP, thanks to ashwin007, MasterAwesome, eng.stk, h2o64, Sultanxda...
There are issues for a start Bluetooth might not pair your contacts to your car.
You can buy an app to solve it because OP haven't fixed it.
There's also a problem with the microphone switching off when using video calling apps like Viber/Hangouts.
It also doesnt come with gallery or music apps but you can find those yourself.
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looking to buy the oneplus x soon and was wondering if there are any common issues. heat, lag, camera, battery life, build quality, speakers, etc...
Its either this or the honor x pretty much. I plan to use it on tmobile ( b4 lte in my area) and stock. I'm leaning towards the oneplusx because of stock android and i dont need the fingerprint scanner. I'm coming from a vivo air lte so I dont mind the front and back glass. would love qi charging but I'm guessing a case and the few wireless receivers i have would do the trick if need be. honor 5x has a better gpu and stereo speakers but that's about it.
things I'm looking for: some gaming, light and non-bulky, stock android, battery life, speakers.
your thoughts or any other recommendations?
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Honor X? Do you mean honor 5X?
Loureiro said:
Long story short, plenty of major issues reported since early november and not even a word about it.
Try Hydrogen OS for a more consistent experience.
I don't give a damn about OOS updates anymore. I am runing my own build based on AOSP, thanks to ashwin007, MasterAwesome, eng.stk, h2o64, Sultanxda...
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yeah H2OS is much more consistent rom than Oxygen OS atm. maybe i'll get back to Oxygen when most of the issues are fixed. Hydrogen on the other hand does the job for me and barely any battery drain at all. Camera works great
Looking to buy this phone as well, coming from a Nexus 5 how is the internal storage treating you guys? Is 16gb enough I'm afraid I might run out of space even with an sd card
How is the camera quality.....is it that bad as shown in some reviews??
mansoorarb said:
How is the camera quality.....is it that bad as shown in some reviews??
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Quite bad under low light.
RJDTWO said:
Actually technically the X has a better GPU. As for which device is better it really depends on whether you want yo wait for Oxygen to mature and have a better device than the 5 or if you'd rather have a decent phone right now. I'm going to recommend the X, but that said, Oxygen isn't really mayute. I recommend tunning with CM 13 as it doesn't void the warranty. I'll even help you get set up and running with it.
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cm officially supports oneplus x??
as u said using cm13 on the opx doesnt void the warrenty....
can u tell me how i can get cm13 on the onplus x? (link me to a thread...i'll do the rest...ty)
I honestly don't get all the hate for OOS. I'm running it and I love it. Stable, runs smooth and has just the right amount of customisation for me. I'm a long time CM user as well... Had the OPO before this.
whats with the camera hate. go with sultanxdas camera it does a great job
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I honestly don't get all the hate for OOS. I'm running it and I love it. Stable, runs smooth and has just the right amount of customisation for me. I'm a long time CM user as well... Had the OPO before this.
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Me too I have my OPX for less than a month now and I'm wondering maybe I can try some different ROM than OOS but I have no experience in this kind of things (having a different phone than stock). But in the other hand I'm very happy with my device as it is, it gets the job done. Is there something I'm missing? Is there something truly extraordinary in CM or H2OS or something else that OOS doesn't have? I really don't know what other ROMs have to offer.

LG G5 vs OnePlus 3

Hi, Guys!
I've been a massive tinkerer of phones since 2012, but since then, I have only been using flagships from yesteryears or Nexus.
Currently I am using Droid Turbo as my daily driver as it is personally is the better performer than Nexus 5x (Batt Life is extremely important to me).
Now I am looking to upgrade, and since prices of Oneplus 3 and LG G5 is roughly the same (G5 is actually cheaper here in PH)
I would like to know which one would you prefer.
I really am having a hard time deciding but I am narrowing it down to personal pro/con preferences
G5:
MicroSD slot - since my nexus 7 2013 is dying, I plan to consolidate all media to one phone and this is a big plus
Better Camera - The last great camera I had was Galaxy S5. Nexus 5x and Droid Turbo are just not fun to shoot with
Build / Bootloop Issue - I really really don't find G5 physically appealing add the fact that some units have bootloop issues
LG UI - I love stock
OnePlus 3:
Build - OnePlus looks fantastic to me
Stock Feel - Feels stock with non-obtrusive addition
Tinkerabilityl - OP has always been easy to tinker with
Non-Expandable Storage - The most glaring weakness of Op3 amdist 64GB Internal
LTE Connectivity - The Op3 available in PH are chinese version which do not have band 5 which could make the experience all the more frustrating. Philippines already has s**t networks with limited LTE support depending on where you live,
Further Notes:
As you can see, battery life is not mentioned since both has garnered mixed reviews. I also did not count Op3's camera as a con since it is a good performer.
Hope you guys can share your insights!
More power!
I am with OnePlus One and LG G4, and I've been thinking about upgrading to G5.
LG makes excellent smart phone camera, but the build quality has always been problematic.
So far we are having these issue on G5:
1/Bootloop
2/Screen Burn-in
3/GPS issue
If you prefer a reliable phone,OP3 is a better choice, but the 1080P AMO screen sucks.
I have both phones and I recommend the LG. I stopped tinkering and flashing roms. Oneplus is good for flashing new roms and do on not for anything else. My g5 doesn't bootloop or screen burn-in or gps issue. Camera, screen, sound extra sd card are the thing. Oneplus is an obscure experimental savvy phone
Well, my G5 (H850) is just perfect. Battery lasts about 5-6 hours SOT. GPS is also perfect.
I used to have OPO and @ItsNewDroid is right. You'll be flashing new ROMs almost every other day.
My vote goes for G5.
I'm using the H860 variant and so far no problems at all.
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I'm using the H860 variant and so far no problems at all.
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One bad thing is that H860 variant is not root able
Norman3000 said:
Hi, Guys!
I've been a massive tinkerer of phones since 2012, but since then, I have only been using flagships from yesteryears or Nexus.
Currently I am using Droid Turbo as my daily driver as it is personally is the better performer than Nexus 5x (Batt Life is extremely important to me).
Now I am looking to upgrade, and since prices of Oneplus 3 and LG G5 is roughly the same (G5 is actually cheaper here in PH)
I would like to know which one would you prefer.
I really am having a hard time deciding but I am narrowing it down to personal pro/con preferences
G5:
MicroSD slot - since my nexus 7 2013 is dying, I plan to consolidate all media to one phone and this is a big plus
Better Camera - The last great camera I had was Galaxy S5. Nexus 5x and Droid Turbo are just not fun to shoot with
Build / Bootloop Issue - I really really don't find G5 physically appealing add the fact that some units have bootloop issues
LG UI - I love stock
OnePlus 3:
Build - OnePlus looks fantastic to me
Stock Feel - Feels stock with non-obtrusive addition
Tinkerabilityl - OP has always been easy to tinker with
Non-Expandable Storage - The most glaring weakness of Op3 amdist 64GB Internal
LTE Connectivity - The Op3 available in PH are chinese version which do not have band 5 which could make the experience all the more frustrating. Philippines already has s**t networks with limited LTE support depending on where you live,
Further Notes:
As you can see, battery life is not mentioned since both has garnered mixed reviews. I also did not count Op3's camera as a con since it is a good performer.
Hope you guys can share your insights!
More power!
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I Have the G5 for about 4 months now and the bottom line is just PERFECT no issues such as bootloops, burn in screen, GPS Performance is top notch aimply blazing fast i feel like this phone is pushing the boundaries of smartphones speed, my antutu score ia 147,356, The screen is the ideal size for the majority of people and the Display is stunning natural colors(not punchy like amoled which might seem strange but i don't prefer it), the build quality is great and i swear it feels like actual metal in addition to the VERY cold feeling every morning, camera is the best one
Verdict
Performance-Best among smartphones
Display-One of the best in the market
Camera-Main is magnificent and the wide is definitely not a gimmick
Hardware:- audio, fingerprint scanner and everything else is great
Battery-SOT 5 hours and 30 minutes on average
Easily the best smartphone ever
I had a dilemma berween S7 Egde and G5. Happy with my choice. I would have taken the S7 Edge if it offered a bit more in the camera department, but as it is...it's kinda limited. Oneplus offers really nothing better other than build quality and price. Oh and the cool volume switch. If I would buy a phone right now , it would be the V20.
Buy both OP3 and G5, first G5 if not satisfy go for OP3 I think, thanks
G5 for the win. Anyone change the battery every day? If yes how is the the bottom cover holding?any damage?
Sent from my awesome titan LG G5
Thanks for your input guys. I'm actually reading and watching G5 reviews. I'm now more inclined to get a G5 since LG also has a good update track record as of late
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I have both phones and I recommend the LG. I stopped tinkering and flashing roms. Oneplus is good for flashing new roms and do on not for anything else. My g5 doesn't bootloop or screen burn-in or gps issue. Camera, screen, sound extra sd card are the thing. Oneplus is an obscure experimental savvy phone
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Same here : Don't own an OP 3, but my G5 is perfect, simply. No GPS, screen, bootloop issues and a SOT over 4h everyday with LTE and BT always on, I'm happy.

Samsung S9+ or Pixel 2 XL

Been a long time since I did a forum post, but need help with a decision I am faced with and was hoping someone can help...
So, I got the Samsung S9+. It's great. Does has some lag issues (particularly scrolling) . Screen is nice. Battery is ok. Wireless charging and camera is great too.
My dilemma comes since Google recently announced a $200 off promo for the Pixel 2 XL (if you finance). I would not have considered getting it since the price was way out of proportion to the phone you were getting, but now with the reduction in cost... The question is:
Should I return my S9+, save the Carrier Financing and go with the Pixel 2 XL (now more reasonably priced)?
Mind you to return my S9+, it will require a little hoop jumping and some pain with my carrier, but what doesn't?
Anyone had both phones or have both phones... thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
You read all the VS. articles on the net, and they are about as helpful as a screen door on a submarine... you guys are the "real world" users... wanting your honesty will help a great deal!
Great post well written (not usual ramblings) ok so is the Pixel XL 2 worth the hoop jumping, yes it most certainly is. Will it be worth it to ditch the S9+ to get the Pixel XL 2?
Well that depends on how important certain features are to you, for example Wireless charging? Or expandable storage? Will 128gb be enough?, is it ok that the Pixel has only ip67?
Ok also to clarify as you have probably read & seen about the Pixel 2 XL's Display. The S9+ has the best display period .....,however there is nothing awful about the Pixel XL 2's it's blown up a bit, wait I won't argue that blue shift is there, it is, however it's not that bad and after using it for now 3 months I don't notice, or pay attention to it.
The pixel XL has the best camera in a smartphone (at present) or rather perhaps their post processing, regardless it's really that good. Updates are another obvious factor for the Pixel, front facing speakers, battery life is much better on the Pixel, design although basic, is unique and enjoyable, it's fast &, fluid.
So if I were you weigh up what's important to you, but you wouldn't be disappointed with the Pixel, especially with $200 off, it's a absolutely fantastic device to use, I love my pixel & I think you would appreciate it as much as the rest of us Team pixel users do :good:
Any more questions feel free to ask :good:
I have both the devices with me. Pixel 2xl beats Samsung s9 plus hands down.
I was having a note 8, just 3 months old. Sold it and went for s9 plus.
Trust me pixel 2 xl is the one to go for. The only reason I keep a Sammy device is for its extra skin features like secure folder app, screen resolution and the premium feel.
REST all the pixel 2 xl wins... Be it fluidity, speaker output, camera quality
Duncan1982 said:
Great post well written (not usual ramblings) ok so is the Pixel XL 2 worth the hoop jumping, yes it most certainly is. Will it be worth it to ditch the S9+ to get the Pixel XL 2?
Well that depends on how important certain features are to you, for example Wireless charging? Or expandable storage? Will 128gb be enough?, is it ok that the Pixel has only ip67?
Ok also to clarify as you have probably read & seen about the Pixel 2 XL's Display. The S9+ has the best display period .....,however there is nothing awful about the Pixel XL 2's it's blown up a bit, wait I won't argue that blue shift is there, it is, however it's not that bad and after using it for now 3 months I don't notice, or pay attention to it.
The pixel XL has the best camera in a smartphone (at present) or rather perhaps their post processing, regardless it's really that good. Updates are another obvious factor for the Pixel, front facing speakers, battery life is much better on the Pixel, design although basic, is unique and enjoyable, it's fast &, fluid.
So if I were you weigh up what's important to you, but you wouldn't be disappointed with the Pixel, especially with $200 off, it's a absolutely fantastic device to use, I love my pixel & I think you would appreciate it as much as the rest of us Team pixel users do :good:
Any more questions feel free to ask :good:
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Thanks for the quick come back...
I don't know... I mean the S9+ has the 845 Processor and 6GB of RAM and it's jitter on scrolling is sickening at times. I could assume that Samsung will fix this with an update at some point (like they always do) .
It's so hard to choose... I like the wireless charging, samsung pay and of course SD card expandability , but I am not going to keep any phone more than a year... Plus, getting the security updates and newest android releases is pretty decent.
damn... decisions, decisions...
Just being able to charge and listen to music at the same time without using any stupid adapter, makes the S9+ the ideal phone. Also, wireless charging is somewhat important since I have a lot of chargers already
However, Pixel's ecosystem and fluidity is something that I miss from the S9
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I have both the devices with me. Pixel 2xl beats Samsung s9 plus hands down.
I was having a note 8, just 3 months old. Sold it and went for s9 plus.
Trust me pixel 2 xl is the one to go for. The only reason I keep a Sammy device is for its extra skin features like secure folder app, screen resolution and the premium feel.
REST all the pixel 2 xl wins... Be it fluidity, speaker output, camera quality
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That's what I hear too...
The lag on a new phone with better specs just bothers me.... I'm sure samsung will release a fix plus something to help with battery... but I don't know if I want to wait that long..
t-shock said:
Just being able to charge and listen to music at the same time without using any stupid adapter, makes the S9+ the ideal phone. Also, wireless charging is somewhat important since I have a lot of chargers already
However, Pixel's ecosystem and fluidity is something that I miss from the S9
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yeah i know... having wireless charging is definitely important...
I don't listen to music anywhere but my car normally at its radio is Android Auto compatible... I can see how headphone jack thing still gets people upset, but it's not that big of a factor for me! :highfive:
I just came from the Pixel 2 XL because the hardware itself was a disaster. My blue tint was tragic and just sad compared to my terrible ancient iPhone (any angle past 30 degrees was ocean blue), the edges had problems with touch sensitivity, and then the charging port fried (I returned it at that point). The battery wasn't great for me either.
The P2XL camera processing is better and the actual phone is definitely less laggy, though.
Keive said:
I just came from the Pixel 2 XL because the hardware itself was a disaster. My blue tint was tragic and just sad compared to my terrible ancient iPhone (any angle past 30 degrees was ocean blue), the edges had problems with touch sensitivity, and then the charging port fried (I returned it at that point). The battery wasn't great for me either.
The P2XL camera processing is better and the actual phone is definitely less laggy, though.
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You thinking you got a “bad Apple” with your pixel? No pun intended
mahst68 said:
Been a long time since I did a forum post, but need help with a decision I am faced with and was hoping someone can help...
So, I got the Samsung S9+. It's great. Does has some lag issues (particularly scrolling) . Screen is nice. Battery is ok. Wireless charging and camera is great too.
My dilemma comes since Google recently announced a $200 off promo for the Pixel 2 XL (if you finance). I would not have considered getting it since the price was way out of proportion to the phone you were getting, but now with the reduction in cost... The question is:
Should I return my S9+, save the Carrier Financing and go with the Pixel 2 XL (now more reasonably priced)?
Mind you to return my S9+, it will require a little hoop jumping and some pain with my carrier, but what doesn't?
Anyone had both phones or have both phones... thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
You read all the VS. articles on the net, and they are about as helpful as a screen door on a submarine... you guys are the "real world" users... wanting your honesty will help a great deal!
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You want real world users?, I can tell you I had the Pixel 2 XL and now I'm having the S9+, and I can surely say I would never pick the Pixel 2 XL again.
This is my first Samsung device, but honestly, it has everything you wish in a phone.
Pixel 2 XL camera is overrated, and moreover, S9+ kicks Pixel 2 XL ass in low light conditions. I did many tests, in many light conditions, and I can tell you that the Pixel 2 XL doesn't taken a pic you can't take with another flagship phone. Yes, is true that the dynamic range and the HDR+ is magic, but quality and detail is poor overall, and Pixel 2 XL always put a lot of noise and grain in the pictures when the light is missing. I watched all the reviews and videos about the camera, and the day I had it in hand, it was a huge disappointment because quality is not that impressive.
With the Pixel 2 XL you are risking a lot in terms of quality, because is not only about the blue tint, is also the black crush, the black smearing, problems with speakers, with screen, with other internal components... Pixel 2 XL has the worst quality control I have even seen in a smartphone, a lot of people are returning theirs, and even after 4-5 exchanges, they still are not satisfied with the device. Even stores are running away from them, because they have the highest return rate ever seen in a device, and distributors don't want to sell this device anymore, because is a headache with warranty and service. Hardware problems can't be fixed by software!.
Moreover, Google and distributors are still sending units from October and November, even 4-5 months after they were manufactured, which for me look really suspicious, and make me think they are just selling the ones that other people sent back.
Stock Android is for XDA people, but real world people appreciate the fact of having options and gestures in a phone, and not being obligated to root or install custom ROM's to get certain useful functionalities; did you see Android P?, is a ripoff of Samsung Experience and Android now is copying useful things from other manufacturers, which I'm not saying is a bad thing, but then where's the creativity and the step forward?.
The ONLY true reason to pick the Pixel 2 XL would be the updates, but otherwise, I would stick with the S9+ and never look back. I don't care about updates since Nougat, because nothing has changed too much, and Project Treble will make updates easier for everyone. But be aware, because Google tends to mess the older devices, we saw it with the Nexus 6P when the first Pixel came out, and now that we have the Pixel 2 XL, there are a lot of issues with the first Pixel. They are behaving kind of Apple slowing down phones or making them unusable.
With the S9+ you get the latest hardware, and all those issue you mention, I don't have them at all, but maybe because I'm using Exynos version; anyway, S9+ for me is smoother and faster than Pixel 2 XL and I don't have any doubt that any problem you can have will be fixed through software.
Ask me whatever you want, I know both devices really good.
:good:
No phone now is terrible.....we have reached a point where it's marginal in a lot of ways.
It just depends on features and Samsung has many....:good: for some that is great, others it's annoying.
I'm no Fanboy I just like my tech, I even have an iPhone X which I very much like :good:
So the Pixel doesn't kill or win hands down (not from my perspective) however it does offer a better user experience in terms of Updates, it offers a better Camera, all be it perhaps all In the post processing, but it's magical :good: and no Samsung hasn't trumped, but that's not saying the camera on the S9+ is terrible (It's most definitely not) I like it :good:
Samsung camera reimagined (Marketing) Camera improved yeah it is from my point (had the S8+ to) But it's not as big as advertised
It's tough but I don't have to choose, but if I had to and was in your shoes, then I would be thinking of what's important & what's not, the Pixel is where I would go, and I'm sure the S10 or if Samsung rename, is where your going to find the most improvement.
Go Pixel then see what next year brings :good:
If you like firmware updates on a monthly basis, go with the Pixel XL2. If you want to mod, unlock bootloader, root, etc Go with the Google Pixel XL2. I loved my Google Pixel XL and regret getting rid of it... The only thing is you go to get use to the a/b partitions and flashing. There are only (3) devices at this time, that i know of, running a/b partitions...the Google Pixels. both 1 and 2, and the Moto Z2 Force ( which i just bricked 2 in 4 days). But all devices eventually will be going that route, flagships at least....
*edit*
By the way, Security with the Pixel 2 is better because it gets the monthly security patches., on a monthly basis, the way devices should get updates. KNOX is for corporate companies and unless to the regular consumer, other then secure boot, i recently found out.
*edit x 2*
Whatever you do, DONT GET A VERIZON Pixel because they dont allow Boot Loader Unlocking, UNLESS the device is booted with a different SIM card, other then Verizon, you can Unlock Boot Loader and still be on verizon...
I just switched from a Pixel2 XL. I can say that the idea of having a pure stock android directly from Google's kitchen was my first argument to get the pixel2 xl but the user experience and hardware didn't seduce me enough. I continuously felt having a missing feature to make things easier, like swiping to make a call or send sms, or take a screenshot then edit it and send it, showing the hand to take a selfie, listening via 2 Bluetooth headsets to same music my wife and I, ...etc
One can say that there are workarounds for most of "missing" features but it doesn't even come close to it and I didn't pay so much to be in need of 3rd party apps to have fade copies of essential (missing) features ...
Some other "necessary" features can only be obtained by installing xposed, like realtime network speed meter, call recording, customize navigation bar ...
Concerning the hardware, I hated the display not only because of the tint but for two other major reasons: 1. Feels like cheap plastic especially if you knock on it in the middle. 2. While using it on daydream vr, the screen has bad quality and an ugly black tearing (which can also be seen without vr).
VR is also a major argument for me to switch to S9+. There you CAN see how marvelous the screen is and how complete is the oculus ecosystem !
The camera on pixel2 xl is not that wonderful as it is said. The S9+ camera is really practical and powerful and accurate (personal pov).
About stereo speakers, it was also a tempting feature on pixel2 xl but hearing the stereo surrounding sound of S9+ is a great pleasure. A sound more realistic and with sufficient bass (sort of).
Also, I was disappointed with pixel2 xl when I recorded a video then found out its sound was mono while S9+ records videos in stereo and makes watching them a great experience !
As a flasholic, I hated the A/B seamless updates thing which makes flashing and experimenting a lot harder and troublesome.
Lag lag lag, the bad word sticking to touchwiz since ages. I don't find it laggy at all especially when considering the amount of its features. One can remove 99% of bloatware and additional stuff and gain the "legendary" nude android smoothness but then, it's nude ! I didn't pay for that. People tend to compare by benchmarks. The S9+ is doing really well on that part, but in everyday use I am sure I CAN achieve regular stuff on my S9+ faster than on Pixel2 XL !
All that being said, I again feel I'm using a "smart"phone .
Edit : I was also tempted by the long-term updates which I could get 3 years long on the pixel2 xl but, hey, are we keeping our devices more than a year ? Hell no, so why bother ? I enjoy the best looking and functioning device now until another better one seduces me...
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The camera on pixel2 xl is not that wonderful as it is said. The S9+ camera is really practical and powerful and accurate (personal pov). .
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I agree with most of your points, but you've got to be kidding regarding the camera. The pixel camera is still consistently the best out there.
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I agree with most of your points, but you've got to be kidding regarding the camera. The pixel camera is still consistently the best out there.
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I'm not kidding but I'm not a professional too. All I can say is that my S9+ pictures AND videos look better than what pixel2xl gave me. (Still personal pov)
Can I test a little bit here, I won't name the device the photo was taken with .....
First one .....
Second one :good:
What one is the Samsung? I can tell you which one is way more accurate in colour, and the better of the scene, both same auto settings and exactly the same conditions :good:
I've had both and like the S9+ at least a little better. I returned my 1st P2XL for a very blue display. The 2nd one started flashing brightly when the display went off. I got a good one for the 3rd, sold it before something else happened. After returning 2 units I lost my love for the device. Stock phones are so capable now I've lost the urge to root & mod. I really like the S9+, it just works well & the display is beautiful. It'll hold me until the P3 comes out. They are both great but I've never returned anything twice for defects. Some on here have had 5 or 6 rmas.
I had a S9+ and a Pixel 2 XL. The S9 went back for horrible black crush and smearing. Take your brightness way down and scroll through something. Also try to watch a video on Netflix. I ordered another S9 to see if it's and isolated incident. Problem is there's a thread on Android Central with the same issues. I put the S9 and Pixel next to each other. They smearing and crush looked identical. I've always been a stock Android guy, but the stereo speakers and other features on the S9 almost have me won over...if the next screen is better.

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