Got my new Note, this is my first droid phone, and I got LOTS of questions. I currently have the i717 version, unrooted.
1) Is currently is any reliable way to install ICS on the i717?
2) How do I check if there were any previous kernel or ROM flashes?
3) Is there a reliable way to root the device WITHOUT increasing the counter (assuming it is currently at 0)?
4) How do I move installed apps, which are currently under "System Storage" to "USB storage"?
I can answer all of your questions very simply. Search and read.
yep all ur answers are here just gotta read,
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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funziebear said:
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
GalNote said:
Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
GalNote said:
Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Read this paragraph again.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
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^^ got it, thanks.
K I researched and read, I still cannot find out if I can safely root my Bell i717, without increasing the flash counters.
Also, it seems there is no ICS yet available for this device.
Can someone please chime in?
wow this thread cleared up a lot for me. Still got a few questions though...so when i go to settings and click on an app and click "move app to sd" it moves it to the "internal sd" which has about 12gb of space? so then what goes on the external sd card? is the storage on the SD card ONLY accessible when you plug it into a computer and put it in mass storage mode? I remember when I had my nexus one, moving apps to sd actually put it on the external sd card..
The note is not a DROID. Droid is a verizon marketing term.
You can reset your flash counter. So even if you increase it by flashing CWM or rooting then just reset it back to 0. That's what I did.
Once CWM is installed flash all the ROMs you want through CWM. Just back up nandroid first and you can always go back.
I use a 64GB microSD card and store nandroid backups, photos, videos, podcasts, etc.
The internal SD (USB Storage) is used for app data.
GalNote said:
Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
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Root ir phone throigh odin then go search dev thread for the rom u want read the requiements then flash they r all good
note @ 1.83
... You don't need root to flash a ROM.
Instead of rooting with Odin, just flash CWM with Odin then flash the ROM from there.
The only reason to root first, is to run titanium backup if you so desire
I recently bought a 32GB SD card that cost 50$! for my phone, however none of the app2sd apps work on my phone.
I have alot of apps I need to move to the SD. I may want to put videos, etc. on there in the future too.
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I'm not sure of the tech reasons but apparently the way Samsung implemented the internal memory system means apps cannot be moved to or run from the external SD card. There is however a rather neat way to use your SD card as Internal memory and your phone's internal memory as the extSD card. Have a look in ExtSd2InternalSd v4|Increase your data storage
You could try Directory Bind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Works well for me but I could make problems with apps that need loaded its data right at the beginning after bootup.
But for game data and stuff like that it works well.
Hi all,
I just got my hands on a Boost Mobile LG Realm. It turns out this phone only has 1gb of internal storage. I popped in a micro sd thinking it would solve the issue. It turns out that you cannot save apps to the SD card. Shoot, some of my apps don't even have the option of setting the SD card as the primary save location.
I have done some research, but alas I still need some assistance. Can someone tell me how I can use my SD card as my primary storage on Kit Kat 4.4.2? I have discovered that my phone has an emulated external storage so that it stops the SD card from being used as a primary storage.
I have successfully rooted the phone via Towelroot, and I have frozen/uninstalled some bloat ware using Titanium Backup
Edit: I have attached my vold file via dropbox: dropbox com/s/ihpfoo4h79kaphx/vold.fstab?dl=0
Like I said I have done some research and the code in my vold file does not match the ones in the guides.
Jaeger1 said:
Hi all,
I just got my hands on a Boost Mobile LG Realm. It turns out this phone only has 1gb of internal storage. I popped in a micro sd thinking it would solve the issue. It turns out that you cannot save apps to the SD card. Shoot, some of my apps don't even have the option of setting the SD card as the primary save location.
I have done some research, but alas I still need some assistance. Can someone tell me how I can use my SD card as my primary storage on Kit Kat 4.4.2? I have discovered that my phone has an emulated external storage so that it stops the SD card from being used as a primary storage.
I have successfully rooted the phone via Towelroot, and I have frozen/uninstalled some bloat ware using Titanium Backup
Edit: I have attached my vold file via dropbox: dropbox com/s/ihpfoo4h79kaphx/vold.fstab?dl=0
Like I said I have done some research and the code in my vold file does not match the ones in the guides.
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Your gonna be kinda stuck. While you can move the apps to sdcard with a few tools the app data will still be on the internal storage. There are a few ways to move that also but due to the way sd cards work on Android it kills app performance and may even stop the app from working all together. This is due to android removing all sd card code from stock Android and each OEM has to add it back on their own so coding is different from one device to another.
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Your gonna be kinda stuck. While you can move the apps to sdcard with a few tools the app data will still be on the internal storage. There are a few ways to move that also but due to the way sd cards work on Android it kills app performance and may even stop the app from working all together. This is due to android removing all sd card code from stock Android and each OEM has to add it back on their own so coding is different from one device to another.
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Thanks for the reply. I understand; I guess I will have to lightly use this.
So I bought a used Moto E 1st Gen to use while my Nexus 5X is being repaired, but I've found it to be almost unusable, thanks to its limited internal storage. It can't even update all the built in apps without running out of room, and none of them are transferable to my 32GB micro SD card! Installing new apps is very difficult, and sometimes impossible.
I think that part of the trouble is that it's running Android 5.1, which I believe significantly impaired the ability to make use of the external memory (right?).
I was hoping to use this phone temporarily as a backup device, and as such, I really just wanted it pure and simple and easy. The phone seems fine and the battery life is great, but I can't put all my apps on it.
So what's the most pragmatic way of dealing with this problem? Can I flash an older, stock ROM without having to unlock the bootloader? If I unlock it and flash a custom ROM, won't the later ones suffer this problem too? Would I be best using an older ROM from the days before Lollipop when external memory was easier to take advantage of?
Thanks wise sages, George
@hendrald
See friend, if you don't want to unlock your bootloader then you must flash the stock KitKat ROM as you can use your memory card to move the apps. But you can only move the apps which can be moved to external and if you have apps which can't be moved to external, you may run out of storage.
If you unlock your bootloader and flash Custom ROM which is MM or higher then you can use your memory card as adoptable storage. Using Sd Card as adopted storage would not let you run out of storage and is future proof as heavy apps moves automatically into adopted storage
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@hendrald
See friend, if you don't want to unlock your bootloader then you must flash the stock KitKat ROM as you can use your memory card to move the apps. But you can only move the apps which can be moved to external and if you have apps which can't be moved to external, you may run out of storage.
If you unlock your bootloader and flash Custom ROM which is MM or higher then you can use your memory card as adoptable storage. Using Sd Card as adopted storage would not let you run out of storage and is future proof as heavy apps moves automatically into adopted storage
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Thank you, I hadn't heard of the adopted storage thing, because there's no SD card slot in the Nexus. It's exactly what I needed. I've installed the latest Lineage nightly and its working wonderfully, so far.
Henrald said:
Thank you, I hadn't heard of the adopted storage thing, because there's no SD card slot in the Nexus. It's exactly what I needed. I've installed the latest Lineage nightly and its working wonderfully, so far.
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To make adoptable storage insert a card into your phone running MM or higher it will ask you if you want to use the SD card as a portable device or Internal. By selecting ‘Internal’ you are now moving to the new Adoptable Storage function and the SD card will be formatted. Make sure you backup your data on card and you must use a high speed(class 10) memory card.
Hi all!
I am using a ZTE Majesty Pro LTE Tracfone (Z798BL), and I am running stock android 6.0.1 un-rooted. (Can't update it. It just shows latest version.) ZTE blocks users from formatting SD cards as adoptable, but I was able to do so through ADB. The only problem is, only one app can be moved to the SD card. With the other apps, It just doesn't show the Move to SD Card button. Is there any way to move more apps to the SD card?
Thanks!:
How did you manage to enable Adoptive Storage on this phone? I really hate that they disabled it.
If you can help me enable Adoptive Storage, I'll check to see if I run into the same problem.
Some of the reasons why you can't move an app to external is because it might be a system app? I have Adoptive Storage on my old previous phone active, and I come to learn that I can't move every single app to external. It really sucks. At least back before Marshmallow came out with the feature Adoptive Storage, I used Link2SD. Now that, I vaguely remember being able to move literally every app but it was recommended to not move the system apps. However, Link2SD required root. Last I check years ago, they never updated it for Marshmallow.
Adoptive Storage I noticed only is useful because if it's a game your installing, it'll automatically be installed on the external MicroSD card, while everything else the smaller apps gets installed internally, and it's tedious to go to through each one to check if you can manually move it to external.
I honestly don't remember. I used some tutorial with adb commands. I hate that zte blocked this on this phone, and then send the phone with 8gb.
-tails618