I'm looking for a Bluetooth remote to use in my car, to control my G1 when it's hooked up as a music player. This is both a safety and convenience concern.
The starting point is finding a remote control that transmits Bluetooth directly to the G1 (i.e., not infrared or wired). It needs, at a minimum, a forward and a stop button. Reverse, pause, and other functions are nice, but not mandatory.
The other half of the solution is software to control the media program in Android, which may or may not already exist; if not, I'll commission someone to write it. Maybe I can even offer a turnkey system for sale if there's enough interest.
I know someone's will say "search the forums", and I did. What I found seemed to be focus on wired remotes for another HTC phone, or remote controlling your PC with your phone. But if I missed a relevant post, please do correct me.
Ideas are greatly appreciated.
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there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
Aux cable from car stereo plugged into remote. Remote paired with phone. Not *completely wireless* but atleast you don't have to look at your phone.
Does that get you anywhere?
juphro said:
Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
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Hmm, I posted a reply to this, but it isn't showing up. Maybe forgot to submit.
Anyway, thanks for pointing this out. I had seen this a long time ago and forgot all about it. That's exactly the kind of thing I want. Here's the instruction manual, for anyone else who might be interested. It's about US$55.
The only problem I see here is that it'll register as a headset and thereby disable the sound coming out of the extUSB connector in the car.
pistol4413 said:
there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
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It's the Zeemote JS1, and this blog has a video showing it interacting with a G1. This may ultimately be what I'd have to go with... it seems to be designed solely as a controller, without A2DP getting in the way. But looks like it needs some kind of interfacing software, at least on the Nokia. At US$20, I should just get one and play around with it. Cheaper than buying another car stereo with BT built in.
Dual Infrared + Bluetooth Remotes
FWIW, I ran across two rare, interesting items.
One is the RicaVision Vave 100 Universal Remote. Unfortunately, it's $349... but in theory, it would control both your car stereo (via infrared, which the majority of remotes use) and the G1 (via Bluetooth). It's able to "learn" commands from 24 infrared devices, and has a 2.4" 240x320 color LCD screen. No PC or internet connection is needed for configuration.
The screenshots show artist/track info being received from Windows, so it's Media PC-oriented, but still a possibility -- assuming you could program it accordingly. If so, just carry it back and forth between home and car: use it inside for your TV and PC, outside for the car stereo and G1.
The other device is the Ricavision SideShow Remote for the same price, also having IR + BT transmitters. This is purpose-built for Windows SideShow, and has fewer buttons -- volume, play/pause, prev/next, etc. It's smaller than the Vave, but still has a 2.5" QVGA screen. This is perfect for my car setup, but there doesn't seem to be a learning mode or any way to program, so the chances of it working are about zero. Boo!
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
trigeek said:
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
trigeek said:
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
Do0zman said:
Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
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mabye you got a faulty one like i did because the first one i got had a 10 minuite battery life lol
trigeek said:
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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If that worked in my case it'd be perfect, and it's the smallest form factor yet. The only problem I foresee with this and the Jabra is that they'll want to subvert my wired headphone output over to A2DP. But for $13 I'll probably take a chance.
JJbdoggg said:
yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
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Yeah, buying directly from mainland China, you never know what you'll get -- and if it doesn't work, it's usually pointless return it. But I've bought stuff from DealExtreme before, and dirt cheap, too. Back when I had this flashlight habit....
[OT] Counterfeits
JJbdoggg said:
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
dixon_coxon said:
I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
skesseks said:
no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
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Here is my config see attached. I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
dixon_coxon said:
I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
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It's strange that it works with one phone and not another. But if it really is a counterfeit, all bets are off -- you may never figure it out.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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I got 3 knockoff bt3030s back in october (from dinodirect... shady) at $15/ea it was an ok price...
I too have the skipping problems on my Droid, but I just discovered how to fix them. Go into bluetooth settings, long-press the jabra bt3030 device, select options, and deselect phone audio and reconnect the device. Now, no more skips.
I don't know if it's the bt3030's fault, I think it might be an android bug where audio gets routed over phone audio instead of a2dp. This is evidenced by the skipping audio--headset audio only has something like 8khz of bandwidth.
It kind of sucks that phone audio has to be disabled, but in all seriousness, I use the bt3030 for a2dp far more than phone calls, if I need to make a phone call over the bt3030, I'll reconnect the phone audio and disconnect it when I'm done.
Don't know if anyone still cares, but for the record, and for searchers, there are these options:
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/341/productID/1937
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/219/productID/1938
Both of these are very expensive though as they are part of large packages for cars. YMMV.
Have had my SG2S for about a month now. Everything works great except for the bluetooth.
In my wifes car ('09 BMW 3 series) and in my truck ('11 Ford F150) the phone connects perfectly when I get into the vehicles. The problem is during phone calls. In both vehicles, I get dropped at random from the vehicle during calls. I'm talking on the phone and poof, I'm kicked off. Sometimes I can pick up the phone to continue the call, sometimes there's nothing anywhere?!?
I've reset the phone, I've even changed the phone. The 'store' tells me that they have moved 'LOTS' of these phones and nobody has come back with this complaint. I've also read about manually reseting the bluetooth application in 'running services' in applications... no change there either.
PLEASE for my sanity... can somebody tell me what I'm missing!?!?
I've always had Blackberry's before and have NEVER had this issue.
Any help would be appreciated!!
Thx.
Anybody? Anybody??
Nobody else has had this issue?!?
Bluetooth on the SGS2 has "issues" in some cases.
If your phone is rooted you can try editing /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf and changing the "Master=False" line to "Master=True" then reboot which can help with dropouts.
You could also try just updating your firmware to the newest version you can, but Bluetooth support in Android 2.3 (and earlier obviously) is not very good.
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Bluetooth on the SGS2 has "issues" in some cases.
If your phone is rooted you can try editing /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf and changing the "Master=False" line to "Master=True" then reboot which can help with dropouts.
You could also try just updating your firmware to the newest version you can, but Bluetooth support in Android 2.3 (and earlier obviously) is not very good.
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Thanks for the info. My phone, unfortunately isn't rooted. I guess I should looking into that. I have Android Android 2.3.3 according to the phone. Is there another version available?
I have a Sprint G3 on 5.01 Stock-rooted. I have tried to clear the cache in recovery and rebooting. This may have made the problem better, but I am still having the problem even after clearing the cache.
I just got a new AF62 Matrix headset for work, and this issue is highly annoying, any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!
Ah.... What is the problem?
The Bluetooth audio skips and stutters every once in awhile while. According to my research this is a very common problem across numerous devices. the LG G3 855 received a v20h update, which fixed it. Does anyone know if the V8 update for the 990 is similar to the v20h update? I would really love to have BT that just works.
homerjr43 said:
The Bluetooth audio skips and stutters every once in awhile while. According to my research this is a very common problem across numerous devices. the LG G3 855 received a v20h update, which fixed it. Does anyone know if the V8 update for the 990 is similar to the v20h update? I would really love to have BT that just works.
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Keep in mind, Bluetooth is a 2.4Ghz radio frequency. A LOT of other things run on that spectrum. Microwaves, cordless phones, most Wifi. Your body is actually a frequency inhibitor. If your phone is on your holster on your right side and the headset receiver is on your left side of your head, then the signal doesn't just simply staircase its way around your body. It partially gets blocked by your body. Then if you're moving (exercising that makes it even worse). Your connection will be susceptible to lots of interference at times. An occasional pop, skip, or stutter once in a while is almost inevitable and usually normal. Mine does that and I'm running Barrin V2 TE. If it is doing it constantly then you have a problem. Could be your headset too. Not sure if you paired it on another device previously and had no problems? But to answer your question about the firmware update for AT&T variant, I'm sure the update was similar if that was their Lollipop update.
As for the interference, I am using it in an office setting without 2.4 wifi or 2.4 phones. Likewise, when connected to my iPad, it does not skip or stutter. Furthermore, the stutter happens in my car, and on 2 different headsets. When I had my iPhone, I used BT all the time in my car, and never had these issues. It appears to be a software not an interference issue. As for the V20H update, this was an update after the Lollipop release, and appears to be different than what we received in ZV8. Also, BT should not have these problems, the interface has advanced to the point where this should not be a problem.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Well then I'm not sure what else u can do. How it comes from LG is what it is. So have you flashed to ZV8 yet? If not, do that then see how BT performance is. I'm streaming right now on zv8 and haven't had any stutters. I have LG Tone Pro
I have the same issue with my Samsung Note 4 from AT&T and also with my computer running Windows 7. I have a Mpow Cheetah Bluetooth headset that seems to be affected by this, it is even worse on my computer as the audio skips and jumps around while watching YouTube. It appears to be a Bluetooth issue that is affecting a large number of people.
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Since updating to Nougat the quality of the bluetooth audio is terrible, it seems to fluctuate between all the time and can get very crackly and hissy.
Is anyone else experiencing anything like this - I updated using LG Bridge.
Thanks
Richard
Rlwhittle said:
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Since updating to Nougat the quality of the bluetooth audio is terrible, it seems to fluctuate between all the time and can get very crackly and hissy.
Is anyone else experiencing anything like this - I updated using LG Bridge.
Thanks
Richard
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All ok Here, using a Bluetooth Speaker
I've tried it with several speakers and several apps - I've also factory reset my phone but it's no different.
Rlwhittle said:
I've tried it with several speakers and several apps - I've also factory reset my phone but it's no different.
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Don't what could be the problem, using the stock app with a Bluetooth Speaker in my case works the same as with marshmallow
I've emailed LG and got the attached reply - he mentions that there are problems with Android 7, but I think this might be a generic answer to blame android instead of themselves.
Rlwhittle said:
I've emailed LG and got the attached reply - he mentions that there are problems with Android 7, but I think this might be a generic answer to blame android instead of themselves.
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It can be True, after all it can be a specific problem with some Speakers, who knows.
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I've emailed LG and got the attached reply - he mentions that there are problems with Android 7, but I think this might be a generic answer to blame android instead of themselves.
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Hi,
I also have problems with my Bluetooth (headset Bluejay X2) after the Nougat upgrade. Media works 2-5 minutes, then audio just stops... the device looks connected and the media player continues to play (silently then). I have done all trouble shooting tips I've found and eventually I also did a factory reset, still same problem. I also have an android wear connected (Sony Smartwatch 3)... actually, I will test to disconnect the phone and see if the audio works better then.
Thanks for contacting LG. I will try to do the same; I sincerely hope they will send out a fix soon, as there to my knowledge is no way to (easily) roll back to Marshmallow.
olabil123 said:
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I also have problems with my Bluetooth (headset Bluejay X2) after the Nougat upgrade. Media works 2-5 minutes, then audio just stops... the device looks connected and the media player continues to play (silently then). I have done all trouble shooting tips I've found and eventually I also did a factory reset, still same problem. I also have an android wear connected (Sony Smartwatch 3)... actually, I will test to disconnect the phone and see if the audio works better then.
Thanks for contacting LG. I will try to do the same; I sincerely hope they will send out a fix soon, as there to my knowledge is no way to (easily) roll back to Marshmallow.
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A short update; problem persists. I have tried to clear system cache and now also forced the bluetooth apps to stop. Here I come to a question...
When wanting to clear Bluetooth app, I discover that I have two different apps called "Bluetooth", only difference is that one has version 5.30.18 and one has version 7.0. Should it be like this? If not, is it possible to disable one of them?
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When wanting to clear Bluetooth app, I discover that I have two different apps called "Bluetooth", only difference is that one has version 5.30.18 and one has version 7.0. Should it be like this?
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Yes, I have both of these too and no problems. I use Bluetooth with wireless headphones from Bragi.
silviumc said:
Yes, I have both of these too and no problems. I use Bluetooth with wireless headphones from Bragi.
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Ok, thanks... bummer, thought it might had to do something with the problem. It might have to do with the model of headphones (still a Nougat problem though), but I don't know; don't seem to have the same problem in the car, but I do not use BT audio very much there.
One thing I have noticed on my Jaybird X2's is: when this happens and I trigger "Ok Google" (long pressing the talk button), the audio starts working again (after I cancel the "Ok Google"). So... still confused, but on a higher level