hello
can you dual-boot with something?
an example that I will realize is the Android 3.0 and Android 2.2
thanks
I'm wondering the same since i purchased Toshiba Folio for my parents, and they are already happy with Foliomod 1.4... but i would like to try Android 3.0...
dual boot sounds perfect to me.
Otacon_ahs said:
I'm wondering the same since i purchased Toshiba Folio for my parents, and they are already happy with Foliomod 1.4... but i would like to try Android 3.0...
dual boot sounds perfect to me.
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or windows 7 and android for the daily thing you do on the computer
swimmer 4 said:
or windows 7 and android for the daily thing you do on the computer
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lol, dual boot with Windows 7? on an ARM processor? I don't think so, not to mention limited RAM (512Mb)... Windows 8 may be possible but not in the near future, and even if it could, I think it will slow like hell on our Toshiba tablet
I no they managed it on the nook check this thread out
and then there is this one witch alows you to dual-boot with linux on our folio from a memory card
some one might be able to do something with these or give them some ideas on how to achieve this for us
Yes, ofcourse you can dual boot different version of Android or Android + Linux (Ubuntu), but not with Windows 7.... What he referred to was Windows 7....
i know windows had no hope and i wouldn't want it, i would like to duel-boot folionotion and foliocombe
xitrumch said:
Yes, ofcourse you can dual boot different version of Android or Android + Linux (Ubuntu), but not with Windows 7.... What he referred to was Windows 7....
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How dual boot different version of Android??
hi new member to xda however I use this all the time...i would consider my self an experienced noob.
my question is since windows 8 is now out is it possible to either install it as the only OS or dual boot it with my android tablet (ics) (lenovo thinkpad tablet (the original one))?
thanks
kingkawa said:
hi new member to xda however I use this all the time...i would consider my self an experienced noob.
my question is since windows 8 is now out is it possible to either install it as the only OS or dual boot it with my android tablet (ics) (lenovo thinkpad tablet (the original one))?
thanks
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Nope, as windows 8 is closed source and the RT version (the one that runs on ARM processors) is not going to be released to anyone other than OEMs
Hi everyone, I bought an Hp Stream 7 some weeks ago. This tablet has the same hardware of the Trekstor Surftab Xintron i 7.0 but the Hp Strem 7 has Windows 8.1, while the Xintron i 7.0 has Android 5.0 Lollipop,
so i think: Is it possible do a porting of Android on Stream 7? Thank you to everyone!!
Try android x86. there are plenty of guides on how to install it. there shouldn't be much of a difference between the ordinary pc and your tablet.
Shad0wKn1ght93 said:
Try android x86. there are plenty of guides on how to install it. there shouldn't be much of a difference between the ordinary pc and your tablet.
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Except that the HP Stream 7 is x64. However, it does run 32-bit Windows 8.1, so maybe it's okay?
nihonsuki said:
Except that the HP Stream 7 is x64. However, it does run 32-bit Windows 8.1, so maybe it's okay?
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Every x86_64 bit processor supports execution of x86_32 code. So, since you can disable secure boot in uefi, you are free to try it. however some things may be broken, wifi or bluetooth for example.
I am a Asus trio tx201la owner and were completely upset that asus offered no other updates beyond android 4.2 to the tablet part. I noticed that samsung did the exact same thing with the samsung galaxy tab 3 10.1 and so did Dell on the venue. The venue and the galaxy tab 3 have same intel atom z2560 cpu soc and is stuck on android 4.2.
Unlike the Asus Trio the Galaxy tab 3 got a lot more attention and thus a lot more custom rom attention.
The galaxy tab 3 has been updated to 7.1.1 with custom rom by linage OS see:
http://techbeasts.com/install-androi...lineageos-141/
Now How can that help the Trio. The Trio has the same soc and is detectable by the intel platform flash tool released in 2017:
https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/...lash-tool-lite
Stock 4.4.2 android provided by intel: https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/android-4.4.2r1-ia2
Then I found a guide on how to use the tool here: http://www.aryk.tech/2016/04/how-to-...ing-intel.html
So I thought I was off to the races to make the update. The problem was I needed a flash.xml and fake the galaxy tab 7.1.1 update onto my tablet but no where could I find this file and certainly not one meant for my tx201la tablet. So I was stuck once again with no update path.
Then I found Remix OS and thought I had something but nope, again I cant find any info on how to get remix to boot on a android tablet? Ive also looked at running chromium OS on my tablet but that update path also seems to be blocked. So is there an answer or is my x86 android tablet dead?
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I am a Asus trio tx201la owner and were completely upset that asus offered no other updates beyond android 4.2 to the tablet part. I noticed that samsung did the exact same thing with the samsung galaxy tab 3 10.1 and so did Dell on the venue. The venue and the galaxy tab 3 have same intel atom z2560 cpu soc and is stuck on android 4.2.
Unlike the Asus Trio the Galaxy tab 3 got a lot more attention and thus a lot more custom rom attention.
The galaxy tab 3 has been updated to 7.1.1 with custom rom by linage OS see:
http://techbeasts.com/install-androi...lineageos-141/
Now How can that help the Trio. The Trio has the same soc and is detectable by the intel platform flash tool released in 2017:
https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/...lash-tool-lite
Stock 4.4.2 android provided by intel: https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/android-4.4.2r1-ia2
Then I found a guide on how to use the tool here: http://www.aryk.tech/2016/04/how-to-...ing-intel.html
So I thought I was off to the races to make the update. The problem was I needed a flash.xml and fake the galaxy tab 7.1.1 update onto my tablet but no where could I find this file and certainly not one meant for my tx201la tablet. So I was stuck once again with no update path.
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First, you do not want to flash the Galaxy Tab 3 ROM, since while they do share the same CPU and chipset, the same can probably not be said about the rest of the components, from the screen to speaker(s) to the vibration motor (if it has one), so you may well be left with a tablet that barely functions.
madhits45 said:
Then I found Remix OS and thought I had something but nope, again I cant find any info on how to get remix to boot on a android tablet?
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About Remix OS, it depends on whether you have a standard EFI (yes, there are 32-bit EFIs) or BIOS, or rather an Andtoid bootloader like most ARM Android devices.
madhits45 said:
Ive also looked at running chromium OS on my tablet but that update path also seems to be blocked. So is there an answer or is my x86 android tablet dead?
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Why is running Chromium OS not an option for you?
Could it be related to the BIOS/EFI/bootloader?
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First, you do not want to flash the Galaxy Tab 3 ROM, since while they do share the same CPU and chipset, the same can probably not be said about the rest of the components, from the screen to speaker(s) to the vibration motor (if it has one), so you may well be left with a tablet that barely functions.
About Remix OS, it depends on whether you have a standard EFI (yes, there are 32-bit EFIs) or BIOS, or rather an Andtoid bootloader like most ARM Android devices.
Why is running Chromium OS not an option for you?
Could it be related to the BIOS/EFI/bootloader?
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On the galaxy tab 3 consideration, doesn't android use a generic display driver making this possible? I get how some of the parts could be different but it would seem that generic driver support may fill in the gaps, no? Apparently I could get there with MultiROM and see if it at least will boot. It may not I guess. Am i just wasting my time?
Chrimium OS would be great the problem is how to. I look into getting chromium os onto this tablet but all the info was related to installing on a intel pc with a bios. My tablet has android bootloader and I guess that is the big problem. However it seems that if you have root access it should be possible to change the boot kernel that loads or is that not possible? Gentoo is linux just like android so it should be possible to bypass the boot process somehow. Any how to's to do this? Ive googled to no end and it seems all the pieces are there but not any connection between them to run on a z2560 soc like mine.
madhits45 said:
On the galaxy tab 3 consideration, doesn't android use a generic display driver making this possible? I get how some of the parts could be different but it would seem that generic driver support may fill in the gaps, no? Apparently I could get there with MultiROM and see if it at least will boot. It may not I guess. Am i just wasting my time?
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In terms of display driver support, while ignoring the rest of the hardware, it depends on how the ROM was compiled, and even if you manage to get a picture, unless the screen gets properly detected, you'll only get a resolution of 800x600.
Plus, the touch sensor on the screen requires a completely different driver, to which, as far as I know, there is no standard.
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Chrimium OS would be great the problem is how to. I look into getting chromium os onto this tablet but all the info was related to installing on a intel pc with a bios. My tablet has android bootloader and I guess that is the big problem. However it seems that if you have root access it should be possible to change the boot kernel that loads or is that not possible? Gentoo is linux just like android so it should be possible to bypass the boot process somehow. Any how to's to do this? Ive googled to no end and it seems all the pieces are there but not any connection between them to run on a z2560 soc like mine.
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The Android bootloader is based upon Coreboot, however it is specifically built to only boot system's that adhere to Google's boot procedure standards, so while it is theoretically possible to boot any Linux distro with it, you'll need to find one that was specially compiled for it.
The BIOS and EFI utilize completely a different standard, which means that to get a BIOS/EFI complient system to boot, you'll need to completely replace the bootloader, regardless of root or custom kernels.
And unless someone had already compiled one for your device, you're looking at a feat that is way above most people (even experienced enthusiasts), since this is goes much deeper than the OS.
While in my opinion, the time spent researching this is definitely worth it, unless you find a custom-built BIOS or EFI, or you learn how to build kernels and ROMs (the latter is easier), your tablet is pretty much stuck at where it is for the time being.
That said, I prefer to look at this kind of situation optimistically, without deluding anyone.
The current situation may be rather bleak, and the chances of getting out of it may be slim at the moment, however they exist, and they are slim at the current moment, nothing given about the future.
While we shouldn't get high hopes, we must not extinguish them either.
Thanks for the info. Ill keep looking. I bet some amazing hack will come out in the future to bypass the boot process. Multirom already sorta does this, so the least I can do is test it.
madhits45 said:
Thanks for the info. Ill keep looking. I bet some amazing hack will come out in the future to bypass the boot process. Multirom already sorta does this, so the least I can do is test it.
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I too am sure of it, however I try to be wary at the same time.
I'd like to point you in the direction of Coreboot and Libreboot for information on some of the possibilities.
I'll check them out..
Update: looks like there sorta replacements for a bios. Maybe the devs will attempt an android bootloader port.
madhits45 said:
I'll check them out..
Update: looks like there sorta replacements for a bios. Maybe the devs will attempt an android bootloader port.
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They are open-source implementations of EFI, SeaBIOS is the BIOS equivalent.
moriel5 said:
They are open-source implementations of EFI, SeaBIOS is the BIOS equivalent.
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https://w3bsit3-dns.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=701551&st=0
This thread pretty much sums up what you also said, even the same soc wont have the same exact parts and thus isnt able to boot.
madhits45 said:
https://w3bsit3-dns.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=701551&st=0
This thread pretty much sums up what you also said, even the same soc wont have the same exact parts and thus isnt able to boot.
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That is true, but at least you can try disassembling what you can to allow skilled developers to, at the very least, take a look.
moriel5 said:
That is true, but at least you can try disassembling what you can to allow skilled developers to, at the very least, take a look.
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Yeah I'll look into it. Since Asus also made a tablet only tx201la called the tx201laf (released only in France) could I use the Intel flash tool to flash it's Ron? See: https://www.asus.com/supportonly/TX201LAF/HelpDesk_BIOS/
At least it's an update to android 4.4.
madhits45 said:
Yeah I'll look into it. Since Asus also made a tablet only tx201la called the tx201laf (released only in France) could I use the Intel flash tool to flash it's Ron? See: https://www.asus.com/supportonly/TX201LAF/HelpDesk_BIOS/
At least it's an update to android 4.4.
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I would first make sure that hardwarewise, they are indeed the same, even though this does look pretty good.
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Gave it a shot with standard update procedure & no go. Says hardware ids don't match. I can't use Intel flash tool cuz Asus image is raw format with no flash.xml. so I'm still screwed.
madhits45 said:
Gave it a shot with standard update procedure & no go. Says hardware ids don't match. I can't use Intel flash tool cuz Asus image is raw format with no flash.xml. so I'm still screwed.
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Can you please send me a flash.xml for the samsung tablet?
I'm by no means an expert, however I may be able to glean some information from it that may help towards building one for your ASUS tablet.
Unfortunately that is what stopped me from flashing the galaxy tab 3 linageos image on my tx201la tablet, there is no flash.xml included because you need to flash via custom recovery.
madhits45 said:
Unfortunately that is what stopped me from flashing the galaxy tab 3 linageos image on my tx201la tablet, there is no flash.xml included because you need to flash via custom recovery.
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Hmm...
Then I'll need to search for such a file when I'll have the time.
This should also help me with a small no-name tablet my father had bought.
moriel5 said:
Hmm...
Then I'll need to search for such a file when I'll have the time.
This should also help me with a small no-name tablet my father had bought.
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I'm looking into multi rom which may offer some sorta option. Take a look at that.
Or this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
madhits45 said:
I'm looking into multi rom which may offer some sorta option. Take a look at that.
Or this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
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That looks great, even if it is pretty outdated.
I'll test it out when I have the time.
moriel5 said:
That looks great, even if it is pretty outdated.
I'll test it out when I have the time.
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How did the flash with multi rom go?
madhits45 said:
How did the flash with multi rom go?
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Actually, since I have managed to find bootloader unlocks for my tablets, in the end I had never gotten to test it out.
Hello,
I'm new here and I'd like to clarify one thing. I'd love to ditch the official os. The thing is, I've read somewhere that android 7 doesn't support andreno 330 due to lack of hardware support for openGL es 3.1. So I'd like to know if it's the same for Android 6? Will my gpu function properly? I just want to turn my hdx 7 into android tablet. I don't mind some minor glitches with bluetooth, etc, but I need to be able to install gp store and have the gpu work properly.
Gido77 said:
Hello,
I'm new here and I'd like to clarify one thing. I'd love to ditch the official os. The thing is, I've read somewhere that android 7 doesn't support andreno 330 due to lack of hardware support for openGL es 3.1. So I'd like to know if it's the same for Android 6? Will my gpu function properly? I just want to turn my hdx 7 into android tablet. I don't mind some minor glitches with bluetooth, etc, but I need to be able to install gp store and have the gpu work properly.
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Don't know what you read but it doesn't apply to this device as Android 7.1 is the primary custom ROM (4 variants). There is some prep involved before you can go that route including unlocking the bootloader. Got access to a Linux or OS X (Mac) environment? You can also unlock with a Windows host but the ride is none too fun.
Davey126 said:
Don't know what you read but it doesn't apply to this device as Android 7.1 is the primary custom ROM (4 variants). There is some prep involved before you can go that route including unlocking the bootloader. Got access to a Linux or OS X (Mac) environment? You can also unlock with a Windows host but the ride is none too fun.
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I've jus rooted my Thor 4.5.5.3. Yes, I have access to Mac running high sierra. I want to use this ROM, as it says the gpu's working:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ki...ment/rom-cm-13-kindle-hdx-2015-11-29-t3259732
I was reading this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/thor-4-5-5-2-easy-to-root-unlock-t3571240
So that one click unlock bootloader is the best way? Once I get it unlocked, can I flash a new ROM with twrp? I'm trying to find appropriate guide.
Gido77 said:
I've jus rooted my Thor 4.5.5.3. Yes, I have access to Mac running high sierra. I want to use this ROM, as it says the gpu's working:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ki...ment/rom-cm-13-kindle-hdx-2015-11-29-t3259732
I was reading this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/thor-4-5-5-2-easy-to-root-unlock-t3571240
So that one click unlock bootloader is the best way? Once I get it unlocked, can I flash a new ROM with twrp? I'm trying to find appropriate guide.
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As previously stated integrated GPU works fine with all contemporary Android 7.1 based ROMs for this device. This can be observed with varying loads via any well regarded kernel manager. In my experience the default msm_adrino_tz governor works best. Not that it matters much. 330 is ridiculously weak. Don't be that outlier that tilts to some obscure writing ("read somewhere") that has no basis in reality. Android 7.1 could care less about the underlying hardware as kernel handles the interfaces.
See this thread for info on unlocking the bootloader. You will need to PM the author for a copy of the appropriate scripts. There is a manual method (what I always use) but 1-click makes the process much easier...especially for those unfamiliar with this device which ain't your typical Android gizmo. Good luck.