Should I buy Le max 2? - LeEco Le Max 2 Questions & Answers

I am not sure if I should buy Le Max 2. I am between le max 2 vs Le Pro 3 Elite vs Meizu m6 note?
Which one has the better camera if I am gonna to put gcam

To me Le Max 2 is best cost-benefit smartphone for now.
I'm waiting for my x820 be delivered (delayed).
Le Pro 3 Elite (SD820 ver.) is an good option too.
Meizu m6 note is getting up to 65.000 on Antutu.
Any SD820 gets up to 120.000 points easily.
This matters to me, and to you?

Heyyo, of those three? It's hard to tell tbh... The LeEco Le Pro 3 Elite and Le Max 2 are great and of course the Le Max 2 uses the Sony IMX230 camera sensor which is really darn good and the Le Pro 3 uses the IMX298 which is also pretty darn good... So it's a hard toss up.
The Le Pro 3 Elite does have a slightly faster system on a chip with the SnapDragon 821 (OnePlus 3T and Google Pixle use them as well) compared to the SD 820 (OnePlus 3 and Samsung Galaxy S7 SD variant use them as well)
The Le Max 2 does use a QHD display so if you're big into VR headsets for phones it is better in that regard, otherwise the Le Pro 3 does have better battery life due to the FHD screen.
I think the major downside to the Meizu M6 Note is custom ROM community... If you look here on the XDA forum section it's quite bare... So I wouldn't advise buying it unless you're ready to helm the development for the device... That is, if there's even source code available for the kernel...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/meizu-m6-note

Do you think should I buy Le max 2 (4/32) for 144 euro or (6/64) for 190 euro?

ThE_MarD said:
The Le Pro 3 Elite does have a slightly faster system on a chip with the SnapDragon 821 (OnePlus 3T and Google Pixle use them as well) compared to the SD 820 (OnePlus 3 and Samsung Galaxy S7 SD variant use them as well)
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Le Eco 3 Pro ELITE has Snapdragon 820
LE Eco 3 Pro has Snapdragon 821.
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/4192b31ed
The Elite is pretty snappy, and one can still buy them,
OTOH the 3 Pro is nearly impossible to buy now, and if so, then the price is rather steep ~ $300+
BTW, I have both, I do prefer the 2K screen on Max 2, but the battery is smaller about 3100 mAh, the Pro 3 ELITE has 4070 mAh.
The camera is OK on both and Google Cam SW works on both of them, the details which version you will need research on this forum.
For the money, I think both are great values. There are many reviews out here, seek and you shall find....

chourdis said:
I am not sure if I should buy Le Max 2. I am between le max 2 vs Le Pro 3 Elite vs Meizu m6 note?
Which one has the better camera if I am gonna to put gcam
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Definitely buy the Le Max 2. I bought one recently (the 6gb, 64gb model) for apprx 170 pounds UK and am amazed at how good it is. The screen is beautiful, and the camera and sound are amazing - I've owned loads of different smarphones for years and this is by far the best one. I've always rooted previous phones and installed extra sound mods like viper, etc, but this Is the first I've owned that I can find nothing to improve upon. Its runs any application incredibly quickly and frankly it's a steal at the price. I looked up the stats of Le Pro3 and it looks like a big step down as screen size is smaller and resolution only goes to 1080 so you'll miss out on the brilliant 2160 resolution (which is also very handy for VR).
Go ahead and live the dream

xen2001 said:
Le Eco 3 Pro ELITE has Snapdragon 820
LE Eco 3 Pro has Snapdragon 821.
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/4192b31ed
The Elite is pretty snappy, and one can still buy them,
OTOH the 3 Pro is nearly impossible to buy now, and if so, then the price is rather steep ~ $300+
BTW, I have both, I do prefer the 2K screen on Max 2, but the battery is smaller about 3100 mAh, the Pro 3 ELITE has 4070 mAh.
The camera is OK on both and Google Cam SW works on both of them, the details which version you will need research on this forum.
For the money, I think both are great values. There are many reviews out here, seek and you shall find....
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oh i see and I stand corrected.

chourdis said:
Do you think should I buy Le max 2 (4/32) for 144 euro or (6/64) for 190 euro?
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Buyer: "How much is it?"
Seller: "How much money you got?"
More flash (storage) is of course better, more RAM - over 4 GB is a diminishing return, you pay for it, but OS/apps seldom benefits from it.
Besides the price, I think you should expand your selection matrix.
Do you plan to use custom rom? What are your choices?
The way as the phone comes out from the box, either X722 (Pro 3 Elite) or X820 (Le Max 2), you gonna look at EUI 5.8 (or 5.9).:crying:
If you can live with it, fine. I could not.
It is not the Android 6.0.1 as much, as the #$%^&* user interface!
So before I bought either phone, I'd explored what to replace EUI with.
Then you begin facing the problems of the cameras and fingerprint sensor (and maybe more).
The choice between X722 and X820 then might shift.
I prefer functioning phone, anything above it - is a bonus (bigger screen, or battery).
If I got working camera, battery charging, low draining and finger print sensor (obviously with working connectivity), then I am set.
On X820 I went through 3 custom roms until I got to the point, not nirvana, but satisfaction.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones , read the user comments; whatever phone you choose.
Good luck with your choices.

chourdis said:
I am not sure if I should buy Le Max 2. I am between le max 2 vs Le Pro 3 Elite vs Meizu m6 note?
Which one has the better camera if I am gonna to put gcam
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If your concerned about speed on the Le Max 2, don't on the stock ROM speed is good enough for a heavy user, although if you want to ramp things up abit there are OC kernels (especially for SLIM7 ROM) which provide the same and even better performance than a snapdragon 821 , my friends stock Pixel XL could not keep up on any benchmark with the OC kernel.
The camera is one of the highlights of the phone, the sensor is very big with 21MP and a nice pixel size, if your looking purely at a hardware perspective the Le Max 2 has got the best camera, fact. Although on stock EUI Rom Leeco post processing degrades the image quality, the average user wont really notice this but if you are into taking pictures flash a Nougat or Oreo 8.1 ROM and download a modded Gcam 5.1 apk turn on HDR to get absolutely superb images, they are better then a Pixel XL no doubt, the detail is unrivalled (even my XZ premium cant hold that quality), if you want just ask me if you want some sample pictures, in my opinion this mixture between pixel size and mega pixels is perfect as it brings in a very healthy balance between the pixel size and megapixels, what I like most with the new BSG Google Cams is that you can tone down the noise to nothing and still attain pictures with the same detail as a Pixel XL as the Le Max 2 has much more MP to play with so the Pixel XL images have so much more noise while the Le Max 2 looks sharp and clean. So overall this camera sensor can take brilliant photos. Video I would say is just above average, the OIS is there but is not as good as the Pixel XL's EIS, although if you download the EUI 6 ROM and slap a modded Gcam on it the stabilization is the same as the one found on the Pixel XL, in terms on FPS, slo motion is not very good as the shutter speed has to go down alot and the resolution is not sharp enough, this is about average and the same goes for 1080p as it is caped at 30fps annoyingly (even though hardware wise it can achieve 60fps), 4K video actually looks pretty good but in low light there is alittle bit more noise rather than in a Pixel XL which isnt that bad. The front camera is 8MP with a giant pixel size although dont expect masterpieces on low light, in good light it looks impressive although the fixed focal point is not in the best place so some pictures may be abit blurry, but again slap HDR on the front camera and low light pictures look pretty good but the dynamic range does not really increase too much, overall the front and back cameras are very good.
The 1440p screen looks very nice with a nice contrast and colour accuracy on custom ROM's ( don't stay on EUI for its screen colours), although as it is an LCD panel in low light those blacks turn into a ugly grey colour and the contrast range does decrease abit, although this is on all LCD panels including the Le Pro 3. Overall the screen is brilliant in most conditions and to top that if you somehow break the screen it is so easy to fix and the screen and digitiser itself only costs around $19!
Battery life is a hard one, a heavy user like me gets around 3-4 hours SOT which is pretty good although I am on the SLIM7 optimised ROM, on stock EUI the battery life is horrible I was getting max 2.5 hours SOT, I am pretty sure while on custom ROMs the battery life is alright the Le pro 3 is much better. Although the fast charging is super fast and charges fully under an hour and thats with the stock charger and cables ( still got them and they are built very well ).

I_Raptor_I said:
If your concerned about speed on the Le Max 2, don't on the stock ROM speed is good enough for a heavy user, although if you want to ramp things up abit there are OC kernels (especially for SLIM7 ROM) which provide the same and even better performance than a snapdragon 821 , my friends stock Pixel XL could not keep up on any benchmark with the OC kernel.
The camera is one of the highlights of the phone, the sensor is very big with 21MP and a nice pixel size, if your looking purely at a hardware perspective the Le Max 2 has got the best camera, fact. Although on stock EUI Rom Leeco post processing degrades the image quality, the average user wont really notice this but if you are into taking pictures flash a Nougat or Oreo 8.1 ROM and download a modded Gcam 5.1 apk turn on HDR to get absolutely superb images, they are better then a Pixel XL no doubt, the detail is unrivalled (even my XZ premium cant hold that quality), if you want just ask me if you want some sample pictures, in my opinion this mixture between pixel size and mega pixels is perfect as it brings in a very healthy balance between the pixel size and megapixels, what I like most with the new BSG Google Cams is that you can tone down the noise to nothing and still attain pictures with the same detail as a Pixel XL as the Le Max 2 has much more MP to play with so the Pixel XL images have so much more noise while the Le Max 2 looks sharp and clean. So overall this camera sensor can take brilliant photos. Video I would say is just above average, the OIS is there but is not as good as the Pixel XL's EIS, although if you download the EUI 6 ROM and slap a modded Gcam on it the stabilization is the same as the one found on the Pixel XL, in terms on FPS, slo motion is not very good as the shutter speed has to go down alot and the resolution is not sharp enough, this is about average and the same goes for 1080p as it is caped at 30fps annoyingly (even though hardware wise it can achieve 60fps), 4K video actually looks pretty good but in low light there is alittle bit more noise rather than in a Pixel XL which isnt that bad. The front camera is 8MP with a giant pixel size although dont expect masterpieces on low light, in good light it looks impressive although the fixed focal point is not in the best place so some pictures may be abit blurry, but again slap HDR on the front camera and low light pictures look pretty good but the dynamic range does not really increase too much, overall the front and back cameras are very good.
The 1440p screen looks very nice with a nice contrast and colour accuracy on custom ROM's ( don't stay on EUI for its screen colours), although as it is an LCD panel in low light those blacks turn into a ugly grey colour and the contrast range does decrease abit, although this is on all LCD panels including the Le Pro 3. Overall the screen is brilliant in most conditions and to top that if you somehow break the screen it is so easy to fix and the screen and digitiser itself only costs around $19!
Battery life is a hard one, a heavy user like me gets around 3-4 hours SOT which is pretty good although I am on the SLIM7 optimised ROM, on stock EUI the battery life is horrible I was getting max 2.5 hours SOT, I am pretty sure while on custom ROMs the battery life is alright the Le pro 3 is much better. Although the fast charging is super fast and charges fully under an hour and thats with the stock charger and cables ( still got them and they are built very well ).
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I will probably buy the Le Max 2 (6/64 version), do you know which custom rom is better for battery life (I dont play games). Also is the selfie camera good/decent compared to other phones?

ThE_MarD said:
oh i see and I stand corrected.
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After all, programmers have a tendency to being off by one.
Cheers!

chourdis said:
I will probably buy the Le Max 2 (6/64 version), do you know which custom rom is better for battery life (I dont play games). Also is the selfie camera good/decent compared to other phones?
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Definitely the Slim7 ROM, there is a new battery saving kernel ( BlackScreen 3.6.2 ) which you can separately download and flash, this gave me 5+ SOT which is very impressive taking in the size of the battery and screen. The front camera is pretty good in good lighting conditions it fully utilizes all of its 8MP with a hefty 1.4 μm pixel size the images look crisp and clean and fully comparable to flagships, although in bad lighting the image will suffer more than a typical flagship phone, although can be sorted through the Google HDR algorithm which brings back most of the detail and lowers the noise, the angle of view is average for a front camera, so overall the front camera is above average, I have seen much worse but I have seen some much better.

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Xiaomi Mi5 Review

Hi guys, I've had my Mi5 for almost a week and have been using it non-stop as my daily. Here's my full review video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SQCJNFdtE It covers everything from the build, camera, benchmarks, GPS, charging time and gaming.
Overall it's not a bad phone considering the price and the power Snapdragon 820 you get. A premium build and one of the better 1080p screens I've seen. But it's ultimately let down with a disappointing camera. Doesn't live up to 4 Axis & Xiaomi marketing hype machine. 4k video is full of artifacts and the focus is all over the place at times.
Still gaming it will play everything at 60 fps, super smooth and the battery can give over 7 hours of OST. I do like the size build and feel of it.
Pros:
Very good at benchmarks
Super smooth gaming
Doesn't seem to throttle or get too hot.
Preium build quality
Excellent audio output, both 3.5mm and loudspeaker.
Cheap for a Snapdragon 820 mobile
Great front camera in good light*
One of the better 1080p screens I've seen. Super bright at 565 nits max brightness. (Not quite the claimed 600 nits)
Cons:
GPS performance is quite poor for a flagship. Won't lock on and use GLONASS sats
The camera is disappointing. Not up to flagship spec when recording video
Camera struggles with focus at times and in low light
Front camera drops frames in low light and video is choppy due to this
Very slippery build. I have almost dropped it countless times (Skin or case needed)
Camera samples:
4k Video samples:
Not maasively fussed on camera performance tbh.
Other points are valid. Although not 100% on build quality just yet. The left side of my rear case is ever so slightly raised off the front and it's bothering me.
It's a lonnnnng trip back to China for a replacement!
Here's a clip of the Mi5 running Antutu 6 Vs my Galaxy S7 Edge and Redmi Note 3 Pro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-UhVrlMCDQ
It gets close to 140,000 points which is very decent.
Hey, what kernel version does the mi5 use eg 3.10, 3.16, 3.18?
Thanks
I've been hugely disappointed with the Mi5. I got it the day after release and it just hasn't felt right. I came from a Mi Note, which has probably been the best phone I've ever had. Perfect size in my opinion and everything works perfect.
The Mi5 has a strange size and the even more curved/rounded back just doesn't feel good in the hand. It's far too curved. It should have been more like the Mi Note. I don't feel comfortable holding it without a grippier case.
Despite the Mi Note having a Snapdragon 801, the SD 820, in my opinion doesn't offer a huge difference in speed and normal everyday tasks like browsing, reading news, listening to music and watching videos and the odd game.
The finger print sensor is ok, but I think the round sensor on the Redmi Note 3 is superior. It looks ugly on the Mi5 I think.
The camera is speedy, yes. But so was the Mi Note camera. The quality is not noticeable in my eyes. And the 4 axis OIS is just a big gimmick.
Haven't been this disappointed with a phone since I last used an iPhone haha.
Im always using a silicone case with my phones.. GPS is fast i cant complain here.
The camera is very good in Daylight, bad at dark places.. i tried to adjust with manual settings but so far not really successful.
Samsung and LG has longer experiences in building Cameras or Mobile Phones, so don`t expect too much in Dark places.
But one thing i like, is the price-value in Xiaomi devices which is good.
Xiaomi mi5 is it new make?
Xiaomi has created U.S. wait AN awfully lasting for a successor to the Mi four, and, thankfully, we've got not been saddened. The Mi five offers a chic and applied science unibody style and guarantees high performance, due to its flower 820 processor and Adreno GPU.
Marshmallow, along side Xiaomi’s MIUI interface, ensures a high degree of customization choices. The fingerprint scanner and NFC are each valuable additions, enhancing user expertise.
The device’s processor, battery and camera, on paper, area unit promising, and a radical check within the close to future can ensure the extent of the Mi 5’s talents. I would like to say its looming Android Smartphones in India
Hendrickson said:
Hi guys, I've had my Mi5 for almost a week and have been using it non-stop as my daily. Here's my full review video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SQCJNFdtE It covers everything from the build, camera, benchmarks, GPS, charging time and gaming.
Overall it's not a bad phone considering the price and the power Snapdragon 820 you get. A premium build and one of the better 1080p screens I've seen. But it's ultimately let down with a disappointing camera. Doesn't live up to 4 Axis & Xiaomi marketing hype machine. 4k video is full of artifacts and the focus is all over the place at times.
Still gaming it will play everything at 60 fps, super smooth and the battery can give over 7 hours of OST. I do like the size build and feel of it.
Pros:
Very good at benchmarks
Super smooth gaming
Doesn't seem to throttle or get too hot.
Preium build quality
Excellent audio output, both 3.5mm and loudspeaker.
Cheap for a Snapdragon 820 mobile
Great front camera in good light*
One of the better 1080p screens I've seen. Super bright at 565 nits max brightness. (Not quite the claimed 600 nits)
Cons:
GPS performance is quite poor for a flagship. Won't lock on and use GLONASS sats
The camera is disappointing. Not up to flagship spec when recording video
Camera struggles with focus at times and in low light
Front camera drops frames in low light and video is choppy due to this
Very slippery build. I have almost dropped it countless times (Skin or case needed)
Camera samples:
4k Video samples:
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Which xiaomi mi5 you have? 32 or 64?
tango007 said:
Xiaomi has created U.S. wait AN awfully lasting for a successor to the Mi four, and, thankfully, we've got not been saddened. The Mi five offers a chic and applied science unibody style and guarantees high performance, due to its flower 820 processor and Adreno GPU.
Marshmallow, along side Xiaomi’s MIUI interface, ensures a high degree of customization choices. The fingerprint scanner and NFC are each valuable additions, enhancing user expertise.
The device’s processor, battery and camera, on paper, area unit promising, and a radical check within the close to future can ensure the extent of the Mi 5’s talents. I would like to say its looming Android Smartphones in India
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Thanks for good description!
I'm looking forward to switch from S6 Edge to the Mi5, because I started to hate Samsung (mainly because of their software)...
Termynat0r said:
I'm looking forward to switch from S6 Edge to the Mi5, because I started to hate Samsung (mainly because of their software)...
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The camera on the Mi 5 won't be as good as the S6! (Not saying it is bad on the Mi 5. Just prepare yourself)
Why this: Samsung puts pretty nice cameras in phones and has good software behind it. It's hard to challenge Samsungs position in this matter. (For most brands.)
TheUltrametricSpace said:
The camera on the Mi 5 won't be as good as the S6! (Not saying it is bad on the Mi 5. Just prepare yourself)
Why this: Samsung puts pretty nice cameras in phones and has good software behind it. It's hard to challenge Samsungs position in this matter. (For most brands.)
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Yeah I just thought so. But I fortunately don't feel myself beeing a hobby photographer, so it's an issue I can deal with.
Either way Xiaomi will surely release some updates to the Mi5 camera as the OIS has some pretty big bugs.
And because the Mi5 is much cheaper, I can tinker with it. I will most likely try to fit a QI receiver inside on the 1st day (and post the results).
Termynat0r said:
Yeah I just thought so. But I fortunately don't feel myself beeing a hobby photographer, so it's an issue I can deal with.
Either way Xiaomi will surely release some updates to the Mi5 camera as the OIS has some pretty big bugs.
And because the Mi5 is much cheaper, I can tinker with it. I will most likely try to fit a QI receiver inside on the 1st day (and post the results).
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I have just received my mi5 having come from an s6. I havent done a comparison of the camera just yet but initial shots look very good on the mi5. Again I am no photographer so just casual snaps, which are fine on the mi5.
skoobee said:
I have just received my mi5 having come from an s6. I havent done a comparison of the camera just yet but initial shots look very good on the mi5. Again I am no photographer so just casual snaps, which are fine on the mi5.
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Thanks skoobee. If you can post a couple of low light shots of the two devices, I'll be very grateful.
Apparently gsmarena, unlike every other reviewer, has found a very mature camera performance.
I will try and do that in the next day or two. I have to say I am extremely impressed with the mi5. I was a little worried about signal strength in my house as on the s6 is very very poor and I have to use Wi-Fi calling. With the mi5 I can't use Wi-Fi calling but I don't need to. The signal is about twice that of the s6 but the clarity is so much better is unbelievable (even better than s6 on Wi-Fi calling)
kevin_23 said:
Which xiaomi mi5 you have? 32 or 64?
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seems good quality video!
I've had no issues at all with 4K video, smooth and jitter free...
And my girlfriend who has been using an S6 for over a year immediately found the Mi 5 camera far superior.
1080p display.... a bit disappointing.,...
I don't see 1080p as a negative. The DPI is 400+, is probably higher than the human eye can see anyway, and higher PPI is sacrificed for better battery life. I find it a bit PPI and mpixel chased a bit strange, especially when our computer monitor 24"+ is typically 1080p. I prefer thing such as quick charge 3.0 and usb c type as the most important things. Coming from HTC - king of bloatware that can't be removed without root, I am looking forward to sleek a Xiaomi

Leeco le max2 or xiaomi mi5 32gb....and why??

Hi guys i already have xiaomi mi5 32gv version...should i change it with max 2 and why? Wich is the diferrents between these phones.
Im waiting your answers
I have my Max used for a few day now an I'm very pleased with it's performance and the OS. My last phone was the Sony Z1 with a SD800. The Max is much faster. I don't play games, but love how fast it is in everday use. I bought it on gearbest and flashed the original LeEco Rom. Fingerprint is working fine for me. The loudspeaker is very loud, but quality gets bad when you tune it to the maximum, at normale volume it's quite good (for listening to music in the bathroom e.g.). I payed 200€ with shipping coasts an taxes, I can't imaging a better phone for that price tag, I'm really happy with it.
I haven't tried the Mi5 so I can't comment on that. But for it's price the lemax2 is hard to beat even tough it probably isn't the best Phone. I Have issues with the speed of the fingerprint sensor and the capacitive buttons are not sensitive enough. But given it's price I can't easily look around these minor flaws ?
I just decided for the Max 2 over the Mi 5 - for the simple reason that it is cheaper and the unlocking procedure of the bootloader seems to be less of a drag.
I have been with Miui devices for years now, after being an early adopter of Miui at version 2.
But the unlocking thingy really was a good reason to ditch Xiaomi.
From all I read and see the Mi 5 still is the better device - quicker, better display. But then again it only is FHD, while the Max 2 has MUCH better display resolution.
My display is very good, much better then the Sony Z1 was. Good viewing angles, nice colors and sharp as hell.
Yeah, fingerprint is not the fastest one. Takes my usually about one second to unlock, but that's ok for me.
Camera isn't the best, but good enough for me (also better than Z1), flash is really bright.
Built quality is almost perfect, feels very solid and nice. Battery life seems ok, but not much more than one day.
Quickcharge is VERY fast, I logged over 4A charging current, so you can go from 20% to 70% in less than 30 minutes.
Miui is much better than Leeco's software.
Reasons to get the Max 2 are: LTE bands, screen size and resolution.
Sent from my Le X820 using XDA-Developers mobile app
433Mhz said:
Miui is much better than Leeco's software.
Reasons to get the Max 2 are: LTE bands, screen size and resolution.
Sent from my Le X820 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I really dont care aboyt bands i care about battery cameras andspeed.
So, it is worth to change from mi5 to le max 2?
See the comparison of the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCdcBj1sP4
I probably wouldn't change from Mi 5 to Le Max 2. But if I am in the market for a phone, I would definitely pick Le Max 2.
Amowagou said:
See the comparison of the two:
I probably wouldn't change from Mi 5 to Le Max 2. But if I am in the market for a phone, I would definitely pick Le Max 2.
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Exactly what I did.
georgesalo said:
I really dont care aboyt bands i care about battery cameras andspeed.
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Then keep the Mi5. Battery and camera should be better according to tests.
Also keep in mind, while the Le Max 2 might load and reload apps faster, the Mi5 will be smoother in day-to-day usage. My Redmi Note 2 reacts much quicker, for example if I press the homebutton. The Le Max 2 needs software improvement. I'd switch back to a Redmi Note 3 or 4 but that 5.7 inch 1440p screen is just too sweet

Frankly thought on Xiaomi mi note 2, Pros/Cons

I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
Benchmarking
j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
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Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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SD 821 is much more powerful than tegra x1 and yes it plays 10 bit hevc videos. I have Nvidia shield TV too, ja it's good but SD 821 is faster and better.
zmajdk said:
You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
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Yes, I saw many 4gb mi note 2 benchmark around 145-160k. With my unit (6gb mi note 2) i expect to see better ram performance but i got even lower than 4gb model. I think with newer rom update could improve ram management on 6gb model.
But as i said on original post that real world use i didnt get any pull down performance.
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
RoOSTA
roosta said:
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
RoOSTA
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You have to press to the home/fingerprint sensor to wake and unlock the phone at the same time.
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless.
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Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
RoOSTA
roosta said:
Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
RoOSTA
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That is correct, but still it's done by one touch, while yu pressing the button the fingerprint scanner is unlocking the locked screen at same time.
Mi note 2 global version is about to be realest but all my Xiaomi mi phones are compatible in my country ( Denmark) so I am not bothered.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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I think the word disappoint for display of mi note 2 is under expectation. Everyone who plan to buy this phone would expect to see gorgeous IPS curve display. But after you get the phone hand on and the color on the edge doesn't seem as expectation so it would be abit disappoint.
As a mi note2 user I would say first impression was abit disappointed for display. The color on curve edge seem abit blue (only on white background) and abit warm tone display (compared to 1+2 i had used before mi note2).
But after using this phone for few days you will get use to color of display. Now i didn't feel any color change on the curve edges (after get used to) but the curve edge of screen still make you feel good on hand. Normally we look directly to screen not to the curve so right now color on the curve doesn't make me feel bad otherwise curve is still curve every time you hold your phone you always feel good on hand.
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Egde functions are only available with a theme called "minote2" and only in lockscreen.
Get it here http://en.miui.com/thread-393072-1-1.html
vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Battery life in my opinion is the best i ever used. It take me pass daily usage with 30%+,- before go to bed.
Yesterday i put phone on airplane mode during 9.30 hours flight. Mi note 2 is handle idle so well.
Note 2 flaishing xiaomi.eu rom
zmajdk said:
Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
TGUY25 said:
I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
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1. Yes, bootloader must be unlocked and TWRP for Mi note 2 must be flashed at first.
2. There is a guide on xiaomi.eu site how to do it : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-12-29.37056/

Mi 9

So the china launch of the Mi 9 is today. Anyone buying it? I most likely will if it's around £450 for 8gb /128gb variant. I want me some Snapdragon 855 goodness.
No 4k60fps and 3300 battery? I will pass for the next phone when maybe they choose to upgrade the baseband to global 4g+
My next phone will be OnePlus or Pixel
Full specs
6.39” FHD+ AMOLED Display
Triple Camera
-48MP primary f/1.75
-12MP telephoto f/2.2
-16MP ultra-wide f/2.2
Front 20MP f/2.0 @Qualcomm Snapdragon 855
6GB RAM
64GB/128GB Storage
In-screen fingerprint sensor
3300mAh Battery
20W wireless charging
I'm so disappointed by the battery size. 3300mah is less than the Mi 8's battery.
Battery is not that important for me. The disappointing thing for me is lack of OIS. No matter how good the sensor is, OIS is a must have in my opinion. Sensor itself is small enough to have lots of struggle capturing enough light in poor light conditions, removing the OIS will only make the situation worse. I hope that they change their plans for Mi Mix 4 camera or whatever gonna be their next flagship.
The lack of OIS will be felt while capturing photos in low light. Its a big drawback for me
No OIS, no IP rating, no stereo speakers, smaller battery...no thanks!
No way. Waterdrop in 2019? No thanks. Small battery? No thanks. Worse camera in my opinion, nothing special in this phone.
Next phone will be One Plus, Im tired of Xiaomi.
galakty said:
No way. Waterdrop in 2019? No thanks. Small battery? No thanks. Worse camera in my opinion, nothing special in this phone.
Next phone will be One Plus, Im tired of Xiaomi.
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I just read the review, it scored good 107 points in DxO mark test, while battery seems to last longer thanks to SD855...
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I just read the review, it scored good 107 points in DxO mark test, while battery seems to last longer thanks to SD855...
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DxO is not the best place to check camera Anyway, even in their test autofocus is worse than Mi 8.
Look at GSMarena comparison tool - its worse than Mi 8. Why? Because it sets high iso and fast shutter comparing to Mi 8. Mi8 shoots in low light with for example 1/15 and ISO 900, but Mi 9 shoots 1/50 and ISO 4200. Its terrible!
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DxO is not the best place to check camera Anyway, even in their test autofocus is worse than Mi 8.
Look at GSMarena comparison tool - its worse than Mi 8. Why? Because it sets high iso and fast shutter comparing to Mi 8. Mi8 shoots in low light with for example 1/15 and ISO 900, but Mi 9 shoots 1/50 and ISO 4200. Its terrible!
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"DxO is not the best place?" Then where need check camera?
GSMarena? In my opinion the worst place to check the camera..
Hello.
In gsmarena picture compare tool, view 20 is much better with the same sensor, so it must be software.
Especially in lower light, mi9 is weaker than mi8 and also redmi note 7... Dxo mark score is not logical, maybe there are phones with diferrent software... Despite the score, it does not seem like a great camera, just average, a little bit weaker than mi8. But it has a wide sensor and better hw so, price wise....good enough phone and camera.
Mi 9 gives you sooo much for 500$, but you are looking for some meaningless details in pictures that no one will mention when you post it in FB, Instagaram, Twitter....etc. For sure ~2000$ phone makes much worst pictures for a bucket of money it costs
There is no such offer for hi-end hardware on the market and I`ll take advantage of it when Global version is out.
It has A LOT of things going for it:
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_9_specs_and_features_officially_revealed-news-35564.php
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_announces_more_mi_9_features-news-35578.php
But I feel my Mi 8 still has more than enough life left on it to swap it.
The only reason I'd do it is to sell it at a great price and just add some more to get the Mi 9.
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But I feel my Mi 8 still has more than enough life left on it to swap it.
The only reason I'd do it is to sell it at a great price and just add some more to get the Mi 9.
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Same unless I can get it with those ebay discount codes cheaper. I'll probably go for the S10e.
What was the deal breaker is probably no OIS and low light photos suck.
My next phone will be pixel
After all the crap of waiting 360+ hours to even be able to unlock the bootloader I wont be going Xiaomi again, especially with them now building in Adverts into the base operating system the one thing you want is unlock and a different rom
droiduser said:
After all the crap of waiting 360+ hours to even be able to unlock the bootloader I wont be going Xiaomi again, especially with them now building in Adverts into the base operating system the one thing you want is unlock and a different rom
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I think they pledged to make it simpler, imagine with that the Mi 9 Xiaomi has already provided the source code lol.

Honor 20 Pro vs Galaxy S10 Snapdragon 855

Hello!
I'm trying to choose between the 2 phones right now. H20P is cheaper, but does not have an OLED screen and I'm not sure about the camera (especially the video quality and the fact that it doesn't support GCam). I currently have a Galaxy A50 and I like everything but the camera.
Are there any comparisons of the actual user experience between the 2 phones? Thanks in advance.
The S10/20p have almost same CPU speed. but S10 have better GPU. however if you are not gamer it's mean nothing.
Honor 20 Pro Camera is much much poor then S10.
(I have HTC U11, S9+, 20P,, In many case 20p photo quality is just poor then U11, it shock me!)
About fingerprint sensor, I like 20p's side sensor more then S10's on-screen sensor.
At least, 20p can't unlook boot loader and can't change default launcher.
If $$$ is not a problem S10 is better,, if think about C/P ratio 20p still a good phone.
I'm not so sure if GalaxyS10 has better camera .. At least at night mode, let's watch this part of XDA video: https://youtu.be/tnz5Pul2Qk8?t=746
For me is Honor20Pro better option, LCD without flickering, no extra rounded edges, 4Ah battery and, IMHO, better camera (f/1.4, 1/2").. and cost is, at least, 100euro lower :]. I"m able to get over QI/reverse charging, audio jack and a little bit wider UW camera.

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