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I'm fairly sure someone has asked this question, but I couldn't find anything in search anywhere.
Is this possible? A lot of people are getting excited about the North American version of the phone, but there is little information about using any variation of the S3 firmwares on any S3.
This would really suck because all the development is happening on the I9300, so we don't get much development attention or flavours of ROMS.
No. And give it a few days/weeks, we'll have a ****-ton of development. 75% of the people don't even have their phones yet.
Again, NO. And if the S3 is like the Note, trying to flash an international ROM on a US phone will turn your pretty new phone into a paperweight (aka hard brick).
Thanks for clearing that up. I did forget about the fact that NA providors will only be carrying the NA variant which is probably a larger audience therefore more exposure to development.
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no... do NOT flash an I9300 rom until a developer releases a post, and dont worry. most developers dont have their phones yet, and within a couple of weeks, there will be lots of ports for roms like Omega, AOKP, CM9 ParanoidAndroid, etc
I called T-Mobile and got them to let me get this sexy phone for $220. But before I get the phone I d to know the pros and cons of having this phone. I have already done all the initial research like specs and stuff. But I need the GS3 community to tell me what they like about the phone and what bugs them. I want you to list any little / specific thing. I am switching over from HTC Amaze 4G (sucky development) .... How Is the development in here? Want your guys opinions. You guys will be helping me a lot. I appreciate any help I can get.
mznatnat said:
I called T-Mobile and got them to let me get this sexy phone for $220. But before I get the phone I d to know the pros and cons of having this phone. I have already done all the initial research like specs and stuff. But I need the GS3 community to tell me what they like about the phone and what bugs them. I want you to list any little / specific thing. I am switching over from HTC Amaze 4G (sucky development) .... How Is the development in here? Want your guys opinions. You guys will be helping me a lot. I appreciate any help I can get.
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Look around, plenty of development. Just about everyone here likes the phone, except the trolls. And even then most of them probably secretly like it too.
The phone is just awesome.
Now i don't recommend branded firmware but that's okay, it's android so you will probably put CM9 in there or any other custom ROM.
Btw, there is a forum for tmobile users, nothing here (international) will work with yours and you should ask them for opinions on performance, the international is a quadcore and US variants are dual core with different specs.
Goodluck.
Phone is awesome just great support here in XDA.
my only con is the Screen break easily, not that my phone's screen break but I've always read a thread every now and then and youtube videos that the screen breaks easily. So I handled my device gently so far didn't drop it ever since day 1
I absolutely love my SIII. Particularly like the speed of the processor and the quality of the screen. And the fact that JB is available (although there is only 1 official built ATM, for Poland; but the rest of the world will have an official build very shortly).
With most of my old phones, I have flashed custom ROM's within weeks of buying. But with this one, the Sammy ROM's are excellent and 5 months in I am still using them. I have tried a couple of custom's, but keep coming back to stock ROM's (obviously rooted, and occasionally custom kernels that support CIFS).
With regards to the development, and this forum, due to the popularity of the phone it is absolutely saturated with a myriad of people. There are lots of very talented devs, who contribute loads of really excellent work. But there are twice as many "noobs" (god I hate that word), who refuse to search, research, or learn before posting inane questions. Then there are twice as many as that of people who consider it their god given right to flame anyone for not being as geeky as they are.
Bottom line - the development for this phone is excellent, and full of talented, helpful people. You just have to hunt through a ton of cr4p to find them.
I have a iphone 3gs and now i have a sg3 for my birthday present
All i can say its the best phone,it tends to get hot when u playing games but i think its normal since its a quad core.
U can flash rom,install kernel and all that.I have my sg3 for about 1month plus.
At first i have no idea wads android,wads ics wads jelly bean.But slowly i pick it up along the way.
I have the latest siyal kernel with dual boot cristelo and romow rom
Best phone
There is no cons in SGS3, nothing which I can tell at the moment.
I love it at the moment..although the Galaxy Note 2 seems to be better with the 2GB RAM tho' ;p
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I am not using any custom ROMs at the moment on my S3 even after several months after buying (pre-ordered in June )...I feel that its not yet necessary for the moment...
It was different as my old HTC Desire...I have to go for custom ROMs only after 2 weeks due to the lots and lots of weaknesses HTC Desire has and I need special scripts to solve it like EXT2SD, DALVIK2SD, etc. etc. etc.
Well just after i purchased my S3, i rooted it right away. I am officially addicted to flashing stuffs. •_•
I cant find any cons on an s3, it's an awesome phone (for now; give it like 6 months more, s4's gonna come) lol
PROS:
AMOLED screen is THE BOMB
QUADCORE, insane fast
2100mAh, longer battery life (a lot of you complain, idk how u guys use ur phone :| )
Yadayadayada )) you guys know the rest of the PROS
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Skander1998 said:
The phone is just awesome.
Now i don't recommend branded firmware but that's okay, it's android so you will probably put CM9 in there or any other custom ROM.
Btw, there is a forum for tmobile users, nothing here (international) will work with yours and you should ask them for opinions on performance, the international is a quadcore and US variants are dual core with different specs.
Goodluck.
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True I didn't know until after I posted in here and I don't wanna make the same post in their section
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saywhatt said:
Well just after i purchased my S3, i rooted it right away. I am officially addicted to flashing stuffs. •_•
I cant find any cons on an s3, it's an awesome phone (for now; give it like 6 months more, s4's gonna come) lol
PROS:
AMOLED screen is THE BOMB
QUADCORE, insane fast
2100mAh, longer battery life (a lot of you complain, idk how u guys use ur phone :| )
Yadayadayada )) you guys know the rest of the PROS
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
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They complain because they use their phones hardcore. Plus it also depends on the rom they use. The last Tom I had before this one saved me so much battery life but with this new one I am plugged into a charger all day everyday. Just so I can use all the good features like Google now.
First and foremost, I absolutely don't want anyone to think I'm complaining about developers or anything like that. I certainly appreciate everyone's hard work when they are putting together roms for any phone.
That being said, I am just curious why there are so few roms for the T-mobile Galaxy S5. I had the S1-S4 for Sprint and all of them had tons and tons of roms. All those roms had lots of theme work and unique items. I am not seeing any of that on the T-mobile side. Is this variant preventing that or is there just not enough love for it?
Just as an example.. check out these rom for the sprint S5....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s5/development/rom-team-nocturnalunofficalcm-11-0-t2883072
There is not too much of a difference between two touchwiz Roms. Its pointless to have same thing packadged with different names. I love the couple of options that are available in T-Mobile.
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In order for the rom to work with wifi calling it has to retain the touchwiz base, and like ceo.mtcl said theres only so much you can change. There is a CM rom available for the device, i gave it a test run on my G900T. It ran great but without wifi calling its almost useless to me
ok so am i missing something in these roms? none of them look any different than a stock rom. All of the icons are the same, the fonts are the same the notification panel is the same, there isn't any theming (sp? lol). Everyone defaults to use some wanam (which didnt work at all for me), but that's pretty limited. I'm sad in my pants right now lol....
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ok so am i missing something in these roms? none of them look any different than a stock rom. All of the icons are the same, the fonts are the same the notification panel is the same, there isn't any theming (sp? lol). Everyone defaults to use some wanam (which didnt work at all for me), but that's pretty limited. I'm sad in my pants right now lol....
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Have you checked the Unified Development section? And yes, since the arrival of Xposed, members can now do a lot to their phones rather than the developer spend 100's of hours themeing all the elements of a ROM and have a post every other day saying "it is too blue". It is comments like that that have pushed developers into saying "why bother". You cannot make everyone happy with how you theme something and members forget that these ROMs are made for the developers, and they decided to share...it is not their jobs and they are not getting paid for those ROMs. But NOW the power is in your hands thanks to Wanam and everyone working on toolboxes to allow you to do more. Not enough? There a several icon changing apps on Play. There is also Themer. Add that to all the awesome flagship phones released almost every 9 months by many manufacturers. A lot of developers have wanted a challenge so tried something new and changed manufacturers. So yeah...you won't see 30 TW ROMs anymore.
Also add Verizon and AT&T with locked bootloaders discouraging developers.
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Have you checked the Unified Development section? And yes, since the arrival of Xposed, members can now do a lot to their phones rather than the developer spend 100's of hours themeing all the elements of a ROM and have a post every other day saying "it is too blue". It is comments like that that have pushed developers into saying "why bother". You cannot make everyone happy with how you theme something and members forget that these ROMs are made for the developers, and they decided to share...it is not their jobs and they are not getting paid for those ROMs. But NOW the power is in your hands thanks to Wanam and everyone working on toolboxes to allow you to do more. Not enough? There a several icon changing apps on Play. There is also Themer. Add that to all the awesome flagship phones released almost every 9 months by many manufacturers. A lot of developers have wanted a challenge so tried something new and changed manufacturers. So yeah...you won't see 30 TW ROMs anymore.
Also add Verizon and AT&T with locked bootloaders discouraging developers.
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my thoughts exactly, well said Kenny!
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While I agree with Kenny on his viewpoint, I see go blues point as well. I, personally, prefer a more pure aosp rom myself. There is a lack of aosp development/releases for our device. I'm still running srock/unrooted, until a solid aosp rom drops, which I believe hasn't happened yet due to kernel development? Icons are themed and running ADW launcher to change icons and themes to keep things clean, but themes are still limited. Don't get me wrong, love the s5, mad respect and thanks to all the devs doing their work, but I see his point. Cheers!
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While I agree with Kenny on his viewpoint, I see go blues point as well. I, personally, prefer a more pure aosp rom myself. There is a lack of aosp development/releases for our device. I'm still running srock/unrooted, until a solid aosp rom drops, which I believe hasn't happened yet due to kernel development? Icons are themed and running ADW launcher to change icons and themes to keep things clean, but themes are still limited. Don't get me wrong, love the s5, mad respect and thanks to all the devs doing their work, but I see his point. Cheers!
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Looks like a lot of the "flavors" of AOSP are covered: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development
My guess is there would be a lot more if the bigger 2 carriers AT&T and Verizon hadn't made AOSP impossible with their locked bootloaders. That would seem to be the main reason for lower development after the S3s.
Reason also is the S5 is not as popular as thought, many were sold, but to users that could care less about doing custom roms, and the age group is probably the younger crowd. The OS is simply awful.
Correct me if I'm wrong, we can probably flash the ones from unified development no?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, we can probably flash the ones from unified development no?
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yes you can as long as you dont care about tripping knox.
But be warned, Make sure you only flash something that is designed for the s5 and something that has been tested and works on the s5.. You can still brick the phone if you make some stupid mistakes or decisions.
Remember that Flashing the phone is your responsibilty. So if you screw up and brick, dont blame anyone for your mistakes. Reading and searching is your best friend, before you flash anything to your phone.
Yeah to flash anything from there you would have needed a custom recovery this tripping the Knox counter.
Even if there were aosp roms for our specific device, I doubt that would be different. Since aosp roms all have custom kernels that would trip Knox anyway
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Correct me if I'm wrong, we can probably flash the ones from unified development no?
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Look 2 posts above yours. I already linked to that section...the answer is yes.
I live in a area where I need wifi calling, so.. I've never had the option to be free with ROMs, really sucks .. what I want, is a Nexus... or a One Plus phone, but I'm stuck.. what can ya do lol
I know how OP feels, i personally will be getting the Nexus 6 when it releases or the Z3 and retiring the galaxy s5
I appreciate the hard work the few devs we have working on our phone have been doing but this is like the galaxy note 2 community imho, i got the phone with the hopes that the community will be like the galaxy s4
in addition to the unified ROM's i have been able to get a ton of these TW roms to work on my tmobile s5 simply by flashing a t mobile kernal right after the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development
eh, custom roms
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in addition to the unified ROM's i have been able to get a ton of these TW roms to work on my tmobile s5 simply by flashing a t mobile kernal right after the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development
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I use the Omega rom with TMO modem and it's great. Although iB4STiD's roms are great as well.
Flash Internation ROMs then?
Only thing you'll lose is Wifi Calling.
Hang tight cause its about to pour on the S5 forum...The Sicness is coming...
@The Sickness
Even Samsung, in their great wisdom, included all of the telephony apps on my Galaxy Tab S (SM-T700). This device is NOT capable of making phone calls, period!
I would think that if one is going to all the effort to create a "custom" ROM one would *customize* it to that device, and that would include gutting it of all unnecessary cruft, and crap. I know how to delete all that stuff and it's one of the first things I do after rooting. But why should I even need to do that?
Am I missing something here?--possible. Am just a dumbass?--again, possible. What I am NOT is a n00b...I've owned and modified and tweaked and broke and fixed numerous PCs since 1983. As well as several android devices over the last few years.
Just so you know, I have all the appreciation and respect in the world for the real experts who do the hard work and provide the fruits of their labor to all of us for free. All they ask is that we make the effort to find the info on xda and other places ourselves--of course there is nothing like a simple Thank You to show appreciation.
Thank You
TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks ∆ Galaxy Tab S
i am buying a new phone, the S8+ to be exact, and there have been a lot of new developments (problems) when it comes to rooting your device. i've been rooting my smartphone devices for over 10 years because i love the freedom it brings (er, brought). Now i read things like Netflix, Snapchat, and AndroidPay not working on rooted devices. So i am wondering what people's experiences have been like. Any regrets? Are the trade-offs worth it to you? Is it worth being able to uninstall bloatware and install custom ROMs if a lot of other features and apps will stop working? i know most of this is personal preference but would like to know more about what other people have experienced.
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i am buying a new phone, the S8+ to be exact, and there have been a lot of new developments (problems) when it comes to rooting your device. i've been rooting my smartphone devices for over 10 years because i love the freedom it brings (er, brought). Now i read things like Netflix, Snapchat, and AndroidPay not working on rooted devices. So i am wondering what people's experiences have been like. Any regrets? Are the trade-offs worth it to you? Is it worth being able to uninstall bloatware and install custom ROMs if a lot of other features and apps will stop working? i know most of this is personal preference but would like to know more about what other people have experienced.
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First and foremost, if you plan on getting a US variant, meaning it will have a SD835 in it, Root is unlikely to come soon for it, This doesn't mean it won't happen, just not soon. Now if we're talking international, the ones that ship with an Exynos in it, they're rootable now.
Now, with that out the way let's get into the questions you've asked. There will indeed be a selection of apps that will not work when rooted these days because of "SafetyNet" check failure. Some of the biggest would be Snapchat and Android pay, However they will work with the assistance of Magisk which will allow SafetyNet to pass it's check, Same goes for most apps that fail to work because of root presence.
Heading back to what I first mentioned now, Rooting a Samsung device of recent years comes with some pretty notable cons to it, These would include loss of KNOX, I'm not sure what your stance on security is but if security is a concern to you, losing KNOX is not good. Another big and notable con is you will lose all Samsung pay support permanently, Actually to be honest both of the latter are permanently lost once rooted. If these things aren't a concern for you then by all means root away.
On to other things now, Rooting these days doesn't present as many attractive things as it use to, especially on a Samsung device. Most OEMS have given alternatives to many of the things a user couldn't do without root before. Currently there is no Xposed on Nougat and above, it's being worked on but there is no foreseeable date that can be given on when it will be completed.
So all in all, Until root is achieved for the Snapdragon variants, I'd hold off on a purchase of an S8. If we're talking Exynos variants then by all means get one, as I've said they're rootable right now. But don't let that be the ray of sunshine, though they're rootable, They're in infact an Exynos and Samsung is unwilling to provide source code to their Exynos chipsets. Which basically means to you that custom ROMs will be limited to rehashes of the stock ROMs with a couple mods if possible, AOSP such as Lineage and others like it are next to impossible to happen on Exynos without a source code to work from. It has been done before but the resulting roms took a long time to develop and either were extremely buggy or were just simply not usable for daily use.
I'm pretty sure I've hopefully covered every aspect I could but if you've got any more questions I'll surely answer them.
I apologise for this being so long lol.
Perfect. Thank you, this helped a lot.
billybag said:
Perfect. Thank you, this helped a lot.
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Glad I could help, Again sorry it was a lengthy response but it was necessary to cover all of it.