Hello fellow XDA user
I have recently bought a the I9100 internation version and I am really pleased, however I do know the power of a ROM and how much it could improve or brick your phone.
However I came from the Galaxy S i9000, I never managed to recover the phone, so it would be recognized by kies, it did recognize my phone, but it said that 'Kies didn't support any upgrades for it'. Meaning if I would like to return it for garantee reasons, the shop or manufacturer will see I have been messing with my phone, which excludes my warranty.
Therefore I wonderd if there was a possibility to install roms or root your phone and unroot it, so kies would regonize it again.
Thanks alot and feel free to suggest any rom
Intensity007 said:
Hello fellow XDA user
I have recently bought a the I9100 internation version and I am really pleased, however I do know the power of a ROM and how much it could improve or brick your phone.
However I came from the Galaxy S i9000, I never managed to recover the phone, so it would be recognized by kies, it did recognize my phone, but it said that 'Kies didn't support any upgrades for it'. Meaning if I would like to return it for garantee reasons, the shop or manufacturer will see I have been messing with my phone, which excludes my warranty.
Therefore I wonderd if there was a possibility to install roms or root your phone and unroot it, so kies would regonize it again.
Thanks alot and feel free to suggest any rom
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yes there is a way cfroot to which will give you superuser access and also CWM recovery by then swapping back to stock kernel will unroot also if you using odin to flash this wil increase binary counter look for a app called triangle away this will reset the binary counter but only works on ics.
this is just basics to answer quickly your question please still search within the sgs2 forum sections most of all new users questions have been answered and there is many guides for new users to refer to in development sections prior to installing customs roms etc
DJBoxer said:
yes there is a way cfroot to which will give you superuser access and also CWM recovery by then swapping back to stock kernel will unroot also if you using odin to flash this wil increase binary counter look for a app called triangle away this will reset the binary counter but only works on ics.
this is just basics to answer quickly your question please still search within the sgs2 forum sections most of all new users questions have been answered and there is many guides for new users to refer to in development sections prior to installing customs roms etc
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I know about CF root .. but as I said before, I managed to restore the stock functionality of my Galaxy S, but I never managed to get support from Kies again. ('Kies doesn't support updates for your phone'). I don't know if the Galaxy S II method might diffrentiate from that .. but I do want to be on the safe side with my warranty and I don't want another bad to happen to my phone.
Quik Recap
1) Prepare Odin --> Go download Mode (Power + volume down + home button)
2) Flash Phone --> Odin --> Install CF Root Kernel
3) Mount Phone ---> USB --> Download Rom ---> Boot ClockWorkRecovery (Power + volume up + home button)
4) Enjoy Rom --> Enjoy Xda Power
5) How to Revert?, will kies regonize it and support it
Code:
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20075898&postcount="]CF Root Kernals By Chainfire[/URL]
Can someone please answer my post above, I really want to start modding, but I also want to be able to get back to an unrooted version with Kies support
Check out the links in my signature, especially the one about going back to stock. That should satisfy your request.
Long story short, reset your flash counter and flash stock rom. But make sure you READ
OK. The experience on here over the past 6 mths or so goes something like this. About 50% of people who go back to stock firmware for their region after using custom roms or stock firmware not for their region seem to be able to get OTA updates via Kies OK. For some reason(s), the other 50% or so of these people seem not to be able to get OTA updates to work despite flashing a full stock rom for their region (with correct CSC).
Why doesn't it seem to work for some people ? Who knows ? I don't think I've seen a single answer that could cover even a small majority of those cases.
Regardless, if you find you ever go back to stock with the intention of getting OTA firmware updates & they don't work, do what plenty of people on here do & flash them via Odin. Easy fixed.
The bottom line with warranties is this. The moment you start rooting your phone or flashing non-stock firmware on it, you should forget about/lose all expectations of warranty service/replacement should something go wrong with your phone. At the end of the day, you mess with your phone, why should Samsung/your telco foot the bill ?
Having said that, if you format everything, go back to stock & reset the flash counter, again, the experience on here is many people seem to get warranty service OK.
What you seem to be looking for is a 100% iron-clad guarantee.
There isn't any. If potentially borking your phone & having to pay to have it repaired/replaced yourself frightens you, best advice would be simply don't mess with it. Stay on stock. That's the only way you're getting 100% guarantees. If you've only ever been on stock/OTA updates & never rooted/flashed custom firmware and the phone borks, they pay to fix it.
Pretty simple really.
Ok so if you don't know now, now you know!!!! There's evidence of people fixing bricked Note 3's by using a unbrick sdcard method or a jig. Now im not saying i've done it myself but i want to try. I know one method to bricking your Note 3 is flashing an older bootloader. From my experience odin won't flash one but recoveries have no limitations in what it flashes. Im' going to order a jig and get a 32gb sdcard and try both of these.
The only reason being is because im on NC4 the no going back bootloader. But i also know that a dump of the download mode thats on NC2 or older can be used for the download mode sdcard. We don't have a dump but stated in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531224 a lot of note 3's already do have one.
I would need someone with a VZW note 3 NC4 or lower to make a dump using this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48463979&postcount=33. That would be used to make the img file need to make the sdcard.
From what i understand id be able to flash a rom thru odin which is when the downgrade would come into play. Ill be trying roms NC2 and lower to see if it works. If it works out then we will have a downgrade method thru bricking first. I already made a bricking zip and it works. My note 3 is bricked and still responds when plugged into the pc as "qualcomm hs-usb qdloader 9008" so im sure i can unbrick it easily. The only thing im trying to determine is will it let me flash an older rom which was possible for other phones.
I also found a downgrade method that i did on the Note 2 when Knox was released so if you know me you know i go hard or go home and don't mind bricking lol!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541395 so ill try my best to get us off this locked terror!!!!
lorjay589 said:
Ok so if you don't know now, now you know!!!! There's evidence of people fixing bricked Note 3's by using a unbrick sdcard method or a jig. Now im not saying i've done it myself but i want to try. I know one method to bricking your Note 3 is flashing an older bootloader. From my experience odin won't flash one but recoveries have no limitations in what it flashes. Im' going to order a jig and get a 32gb sdcard and try both of these.
The only reason being is because im on NC4 the no going back bootloader. But i also know that a dump of the download mode thats on NC2 or older can be used for the download mode sdcard. We don't have a dump but stated in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531224 a lot of note 3's already do have one.
I would need someone with a VZW note 3 NC4 or lower to make a dump using this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48463979&postcount=33. That would be used to make the img file need to make the sdcard.
From what i understand id be able to flash a rom thru odin which is when the downgrade would come into play. Ill be trying roms NC2 and lower to see if it works. If it works out then we will have a downgrade method thru bricking first. I already made a bricking zip and it works. My note 3 is bricked and still responds when plugged into the pc as "qualcomm hs-usb qdloader 9008" so im sure i can unbrick it easily. The only thing im trying to determine is will it let me flash an older rom which was possible for other phones.
I also found a downgrade method that i did on the Note 2 when Knox was released so if you know me you know i go hard or go home and don't mind bricking lol!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541395 so ill try my best to get us off this locked terror!!!!
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I have looked at this method previously and have used the sprint downgrade before. Has there been any progress and if so are there any results.
Will not work. QFPROM is blown to boot from SDC3 and verify the images just as it does on the eMMC. Because the rollback bit for NC4 aboot has been blown, a downgrade is not possible. However, this only applies to aboot at the moment.
Hello everyone,
tl;dr version
What's the best way to install a custom rom on the Redmi Note 3 out of the box with a locked bootloader. What is the best rom to use for maximum functionality.
I have been following these forums for a while, but haven't got around to creating an account and posting. I'm new to flashing roms, and my experience goes as far as following guides to flash a Samsung S4, and a Samsung S2. The Samsung phones were really easy to flash, and I just followed guides in a robotic way without ever actually learning anything. For the record, CM12 on the Samsung S2, which I'm using because I smashed my S4, is absolutely unbelievable in regards to the increase of performance.
One of my work friends was telling me that he has a mate who bought a Chinese phone really cheap and flashed it. Getting excited, knowing exactly where I need to look to flash a phone, I impulsively researched these phones and bought a Redmi Note 3 for $173 AUD. It's on the way in the mail. Having looked at the hardware specs, this price is absolutely ridiculous. I was more swayed to buy the Redmi Note 3, because multiple sites reported that the second sim slot can hold a micro SD card. The only downside I can see to this phone is the bloatware and stock rom that it comes with, and the reason for this post is to discuss the best way in which to flash a new rom. If you have managed to read this far, thanks for reading my life story!
Having limited experience in the phone flashing world, from researching it looks like the flashing process is something like:
Unlock the bootloader
Flash a recovery program
Use the recovery to flash rom/app
My understanding of the bootloader and why it needs to be unlocked is limited. I've done some research around it, and this is what I have found. The bootloader is the first thing that runs when the phone starts up, loads the kernel and the rom, and verifies that you have a legit recovery program. It needs to be unlocked so you can put a custom recovery on to your phone. Once you have that sorted, flashing roms from the recovery is a pretty straight forward process. If I'm wrong, please correct me, because this is what I have understood from looking around and I'm not confident about my understanding.
Unlocking the Bootloader On The Redmi Note 3
Having read on multiple sites, this looks like the biggest constraint when trying to flash a custom rom on the Redmi Note 3. This is because Xiaomi have locked the bootloader for this device, when most other phones do not have this problem. Most flashing guides for the Redmi Note 3 assume that the boodloader is unlocked or list it as a pre-requisite, so I'm unsure what path to take here. From research, it looks like there are 3 possible ways to move forward from here:
Official Bootloader Unlock
Unofficial Bootloader Unlock
Bypassing The Bootloader Unlock
Because my account is new, the following links aren't hyperlinked and in a good format due to permissions. Sorry! It'd be sweet if a mod could edit it.
1. Official Bootloader Unlock
This seems like the most legit way to unlock the bootloader. Apparently you just go to: endotmiuidotcom/unlock/ and apply for an unlock by using google translate and creating an account. People have reported response times taking over a month, not getting a successful application, or the unlocking process getting stuck at 50%. To me this doesn't sound appealing and I'm not too keen on waiting a month to find I'm unsuccessful in applying.
2. Unofficial Bootloader Unlock
This process is found here: endotmiuidotcom/thread-253680-1-1.html and looks to be a bit tedious. Apparently there is a high chance for a brick using this method, and some custom recoveries don't work well with it. My other concern is that if the brickrate is high, and this method was released around april, it could be possible that Xiaomi has made some further updates, further increasing the chance for a brick.
3. Bypassing The Bootloader Unlock
I found this process on a post from these forums, which then sourced a reddit post. The reddit post is pretty straight forward and can be found here: wwwdotredditdotcom/r/Xiaomi/comments/5611tg/psa_you_can_flash_twrp_and_subsequently_cm13/ .This process works by flashing a legit miui rom, but by flashing it with a modified recovery image, in particular, a custom recovery like TWRP. Having considered the three methods, this looks like the easiest way of getting it done.
My questions are: has anyone done any of these three methods successfully? What method do you recommend? Have I missed anything? Are there any other methods?
My understanding is once the bootloader is unlocked, you install TWRP. Then once that is installed you flash whatever rom you want, which leads into my next question. What is the best ROM to use?
It looks like the most viable roms are the CM roms. I've seen CM 13 and CM 14, are people running CM 13 instead of 14. Why? Is it more stable? Ideally I'm after the most functionality possible. Are there any other roms that you'd recommend flashing? When flashing roms are you supposed to do all the standard things that you would on other phones, factory wipe/cache wipe/davlik cache wipe, flash rom, flash gapps? I've also seen that CM needs firmware flashed before the rom, will this mess anything up and can it brick? Can you do all this stuff from TWRP with a locked bootlader (method 3)? I really like having notification badges too, what will I need to do for this to happen?
If you have read all of this, I really appreciate you taking the time. I hope I haven't broken any forum rules in the process.
dude,it's too much to read for people. I can't believe i read it,anyway.
about unlocking the bootloader process(I'm telling you about my experience):
---step 1 : you sign up for a mi account,choose your country and verify your phone number>login to your mi account on your device(remember to enable every feature on your mi account on your device,you can disable backup)> go to https://i.mi.com and check your device,it should be there> go to http://en.miui.com/unlock/ , write for example dear sir or madam, I'm an austrailian developer and I want to try and work on projects like cyanogen mods and other custom roms. sincerely,JaFranchise - alright,after finishing the writing go to translate.google.com and translate it to chinese,then paste on the form,then apply,you will confirm your request by entering the code that was sent to you via mi message --- for me it took about 3 to 4 hours to receive my confirmation.
---step 2 : first try this,if you stuck on 50% error,you will try step 3,so here is the instruction,
sign in to your mi account on your device(enable find device),also on i.mi.com(to check your device). enable developer options,OEM unlocking and USB debugging. > download the latest version of MIFlashUnlock tool and log into your account link : http://bigota.d.miui.com/miflashunlock/MiFlashUnlock_1.1.0317.1_en.zip> turn off your device and go to fastboot (press and hold volume - and power button at the same time), connect your device to your PC, click unlock(on MIFlashUnlock tool), after your bootloader successfully unlocked, click on reboot.
---step 3 : this is for kenzo devices(redmi note 3 pro - snapdragon650) - if you're using redmi note 3(mediatekX10), you should download the roms(stable and developer) according to your device
you need to switch from global stable to global developer rom, download the latest global developer rom on android lollipop(5.1). link : http://bigota.d.miui.com/6.8.18/miui_HMNote3ProGlobal_6.8.18_d0da79d09e_5.1.zip> after downloading the rom,rename the file name to Update.zip then copy to internal storage(in downloaded_rom folder).> open updater app, select choose update package, go to downloaded_rom folder and select Update.zip. It will verify your rom and install it. > download the latest global developer rom from en.miui.com/download-301.html , repeat the instruction or just simply download via updater > then follow step 2
I think,It's better you first unlock bootloader,then mention me in the comments to go through that(about cm and aosp roms and flashing instructions) process.
goodluck.
Thanks for your reply and for reading it all. So your advice is unlock the bootloader the official way. I know it's too much to read, that's why I put a tl;dr section, because I probably wouldn't read that much! The last thing I want to do is annoy people.
Cheers for specifically telling me what I'd need to write in the application, massive help. Maybe some people have been unsuccessful because they haven't said the right things.
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Thanks for your reply and for reading it all. So your advice is unlock the bootloader the official way. I know it's too much to read, that's why I put a tl;dr section, because I probably wouldn't read that much! The last thing I want to do is annoy people.
Cheers for specifically telling me what I'd need to write in the application, massive help. Maybe some people have been unsuccessful because they haven't said the right things.
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It's alot easier than it sounds. The hardest part is probably getting the drivers on your computer installed properly to unlock bootloader/miflash. The good thing about this device is if you brick it, it's fairly simple to unbrick via the edl method but yea, official unlock bootloader - flash zcx twrp - make a backup - flash away
Hemphiz said:
It's alot easier than it sounds. The hardest part is probably getting the drivers on your computer installed properly to unlock bootloader/miflash. The good thing about this device is if you brick it, it's fairly simple to unbrick via the edl method but yea, official unlock bootloader - flash zcx twrp - make a backup - flash away
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So it looks like official unlock is the way to go about things. Why ZCX version of TWRP?
ZCX is essentially the official TWRP, but with some extra stuff in it to allow it to support F2FS, if I'm not mistaken. Since you've decided to unlock your bootloader the official way, both ZCX and the official twrp are fine.
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Thanks for your reply and for reading it all. So your advice is unlock the bootloader the official way. I know it's too much to read, that's why I put a tl;dr section, because I probably wouldn't read that much! The last thing I want to do is annoy people.
Cheers for specifically telling me what I'd need to write in the application, massive help. Maybe some people have been unsuccessful because they haven't said the right things.
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you're welcome,yes if you officially unlock the bootloader,everytime you face an issue,for example got your bootloader locked again,you can use miflashunlock with ease.about the version of the twrp,i should say ZCX_TWRP_0917 is the way to go,it got everything you'll ever needed except for encryption you need lazyflasher-I don't want to go into details to make you confused-for more info about twrp and other roms check these links :
1- ⋆⋆ NEWBIE GUIDE ⋆⋆ [UPDATED] Available TWRPs, Add-On Zips, Root, Flash, Restore, FAQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/how-to/guide-redmi-note-3-available-twrps-t3406708
2-step by step instructions for zcx twrp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/how-to/zcx-twrp-install-twrp-flash-supersu-t3462448
3- comprehensive guide for unlocking bootloader process
http://en.miui.com/thread-246705-1-1.html
Okay so I don't know a whole lot about this stuff. I just had a note 9s and I bricked it to the point where it wouldn't even turn on no more. I upgraded it got this and I just got done spending $40 to have someone remotely recover this thing because I had almost done it again
Can somebody please explain to me exactly what it is I need to download and what I need to have and where I can get it? Please
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10/how-to/guide-mi-10-10-pro-root-guide-t4071553
CwayDray said:
Okay so I don't know a whole lot about this stuff. I just had a note 9s and I bricked it to the point where it wouldn't even turn on no more. I upgraded it got this and I just got done spending $40 to have someone remotely recover this thing because I had almost done it again
Can somebody please explain to me exactly what it is I need to download and what I need to have and where I can get it? Please
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In addition to the link ontop, I can recommend TWRP is probably going to be easiest for you. Look on the forum for the TWRP unofficial for our device, copy the Magisk zip onto your phone's storage, fastboot into TWRP with the instructions and flash it. Easiest way to get root IMO. You need an unlocked bootloader which will take 7 days if you haven't done so already.
xda-jimjongs said:
In addition to the link ontop, I can recommend TWRP is probably going to be easiest for you. Look on the forum for the TWRP unofficial for our device, copy the Magisk zip onto your phone's storage, fastboot into TWRP with the instructions and flash it. Easiest way to get root IMO. You need an unlocked bootloader which will take 7 days if you haven't done so already.
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I believe that's the one I was trying to use I just don't know what I'm doing lol. I've already unlocked the bootloader
Im interested in picking this phone up but my main holdback is whether or not you can root it. Ive been living that root based adblock life and I cant go back. Non-root based adblocks just dont work as well as the rooted ones.
Has anyone rooted the phone? does magisk + adb flash work? Has anyone rooted CN phone with global rom?
You should be able to but I would be cautious.
Firstly, the service for unlocking the bootloader seems unreliable from some reports (apparently you need to use some Chinese portal for requesting an unlock file - if you don't have luck getting that or it doesn't work, you're stuck and I bet getting help from Lenovo is not easy). Secondly, unless I've missed something, I don't see proper official ROM image downloads from Lenovo for extracting/patching boot or safely reflashing the device from bootloop/soft brick, so you have to go with whatever is available around for download here or elsewhere on the net and hope for the best. Even more important since you don't have custom recovery options (like TWRP) on this device.
In summary, yes, but it looks like risky business. This device doesn't seem to be root friendly...